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Today's Windows Virus - MyDoom / Novarg

Oddster writes "There is a new virus out by the name of Novarg which can infect all Windows versions from 95 to XP. It has two interesting features - first, in addition to mass mailing, it also distributes itself via the P2P network Kazaa. Second, it can perform a denial-of-service against www.sco.com. Details at Symantec and F-Secure, although neither seems to have finished their analysis." Other readers have sent in links to coverage at CNET and Security Response, and Russ Nelson provides a sample message.

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  1. Finally! by someonehasmyname · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally, a worthwhile virus!!

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    1. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is there a Linux port yet???

    2. Re:Finally! by MicktheMech · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not quite. This virus contains SCO IP. The DDOS is actually infected host sending credit card info to pay SCO $699 for the license.

    3. Re:Finally! by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Interesting
      *Now* you tell me, I'd have kept the damn thing if I'd known (joke)! I've just finished updating by Virus signatures after a copy of this sucker slipped by the set I only got this morning. If you are running McAfee on your Windows boxen the latest DAT/SDAT at time of writing (4318) is NOT sufficient! You also need the Extra.DAT file which you can grab from here:

      http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100983.htm

      (Scroll down for the download links to the updates), or the 4319 DAT/SDAT when it becomes available.

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    4. Re:Finally! by bangular · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think www.sco.com as we know it will probably have traffic from this virus FOREVER. Virii don't go away. Hell, I still see hits from code red in my logs. How long ago was that? SCO is looking at the very least a week of MAJOR traffic, more likely at least a month. Then if somehow the virus dies down a bit, they will probably see a couple hundred megabytes of virus traffic a day at least.

    5. Re:Finally! by cyril3 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Yeah right.

      The last time someone told me I needed the latest virus patch I got into a shit load of trouble.

      And they were from Microsoft.

      You think I'm going to believe you. I hit that link and my soul belongs to some Romanian gangster.

      I'm not that stupid.

    6. Re:Finally! by Joel+Carr · · Score: 5, Funny

      You also need the Extra.DAT file which you can grab from here:

      In case the site gets /.ed, you can download the Extra.DAT file from me using Kazaa...

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    7. Re:Finally! by Nucleon500 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I know you were joking, but no, attacking sco.com does not make it a worthwhile virus. Yes, SCO deserves a lot of hardship. But any retaliation should be done in a completely legal manner. Why? SCO is trying to make open source look bad in the eyes of businesses. They've said we don't respect copyrights, they say we're anti-business. They screamed loudly about joking death threats and DDoS attacks. They're trying to make us look bad, and whatever we do should make them look bad, make them look like the aggressor they are. Doing obviously illegal things only makes us look bad and SCO look like a victim. So this is a major step backwards.

    8. Re:Finally! by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Check your email...I sent it to you (a couple... hundred... times).







      ---Note to John Ashcroft: the above was a joke.

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    9. Re:Finally! by thedillybar · · Score: 5, Funny
      This doesn't make open source look bad.

      As far as I can tell, this virus is not licensed under the GPL, and I can't find the source for it anywhere...

    10. Re:Finally! by obeythefist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ahh, so the idea is, the virus infects Windows boxes, then sends data to SCO to tell them that it's a windows box, which frees SCO to sue *everyone* else who doesn't attack them with the virus, because they must be running Linux. And we all know who owns linux, don't we?

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    11. Re:Finally! by dslbrian · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think www.sco.com as we know it will probably have traffic from this virus FOREVER.

      Which they will promptly PR-spin into a positive thing - "We are getting THOUSANDS of licensing inquiries EACH DAY!!" or "Our website has become one of the most POPULAR on the internet, obviously customers are very satisfied!"

    12. Re:Finally! by XO · · Score: 4, Funny

      I still get a bunch of hits from Code Red in my logs, too.. from people on the same cable systems.. I'm collecting all their IP's , and am going to start a mass bomb of "NET SEND /DOMAIN:ip 'GET A GODDAMN ANTIVIRUS PROGRAM YOU FUCKING MORON'" ...

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    13. Re:Finally! by vanillaspice · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, if you really want to know where you can get it, the virus deposits a text file, very cookie-like, in a Windows user's Temporary Internet Files folder that points to a site called http://russnelson.com which ostensibly belongs to a man who works for a software company in upstate New York. And if you really want to download that cookie (and potentially the .scr file), you can go to russnelson.com/mydoom.

  2. i'm not scared... by edrugtrader · · Score: 5, Funny

    i just got the patch off of kazaa... sweet jesus, just in the knick of time.

    whew.

    i was scared there for a ss.....[NO CARRIER]

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  3. DOS huh? by Armethius · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Second, it can perform a denial-of-service against www.sco.com" Will this be the first virus I willingly load on my machine?

    1. Re:DOS huh? by bsharitt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn it, they don't make enough Mac compatible viruses.

    2. Re:DOS huh? by PhxBlue · · Score: 5, Funny

      Will this be the first virus I willingly load on my machine?

      No, it'll be the second. You have to load Windows first.

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    3. Re:DOS huh? by caluml · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I see that they run with a 60 second DNS refresh - is this forward thinking by them in case they have to change the servers IP, or add more servers? That way, they don't have hours, or days of stale data hanging around.

      Also, does the virus target by IP address, or does it do a full DNS lookup? If it's just IP, it will be easy for them to change the www record, and the servers address. 60 seconds later, everyone apart from the virus will be able to access the site.

    4. Re:DOS huh? by nocomment · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought that might be what you meant. Sorta like the honor system virus where when you get the email you just delete a bunch of random files yourself and forward the email.

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    5. Re:DOS huh? by Nahor · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's well known that Windows is not a virus (shamelessly copied from here)

      1. Viruses are free.
      2. Viruses can be gotten from any good bbs.
      3. If detected soon enough, most viruses can be removed from your computer without a huge loss of data and time.
      4. Viruses don't take up HUGE wads of disk space.
      5. Viruses don't need 4meg of ram to run.
      6. Viruses do something.
      7. Viruses come in flavors, not just one-size-fits-all.
      8. Viruses use the "cutting edge" programming skills to make themselves less noticable. (untill they are ready to be noticed)
      9. Viruses don't have major bugs. (if they do, then they don't work, so they're not virus')
      10. Viruses don't have three different sets of documentation that is all mixed up and wrong.
      11. Viruses don't leak things to the press about the upcomming Jerusalem 95, to keep people from switching to Michelangelo/2 Warp or better yet, XJerusalem.
      12. Viruses don't put out stupid two page adds in magazines centered around the march 6 "activate button".
      13. Viruses arn't on every computer.
      14. Viruses don't have stupid wizards.
      15. Who cares if a virus is 16 bit, even though it is advertised as 32?
      16. Viruses don't say that they are user "friendly", when they arn't.
      17. Viruses can run on PCDOS without warnings.
      18. Viruses when installing themselves don't try to send private info about your computer over the phone lines to microstoned-net.
      19. Viruses install themselves.
      20. Viruses don't try to push out all compitition. They just try to do their job.
      21. Viruses maker's don't try to buy Intuit (makers of Quicken (wouldn't that be fun, America's biggest finacial software company owned by a virus maker))
      22. Viruses don't invade and take over PC Magazine, filling it with 100% junk on Win95.
      23. Viruses don't try to copy what Apple does.
      24. There are programs you can buy, or get free to remove viruses.

  4. Serves people right.. by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who the hell is gonna open a 3kb executable from kazaa?

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    1. Re:Serves people right.. by Kenja · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Dumb people. Problem is that dumb people make up a majority of internet users. This is the same reason that spam works as an advertising method. Its also why toner refills have warnings not to drink the contents and windex warns you not to spray it in your eyes.

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    2. Re:Serves people right.. by swordboy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Who the hell is gonna open a 3kb executable from kazaa?

      The same idiots who install it.

      Kazaa is not secure. It installs spyware that monitors keyboard activity. If you type an email address on a PC that has Kazaa, that address will be spammed into oblivion. Webshots does the same thing. Not directly, but through one of many third party applications that are installed silently.

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    3. Re:Serves people right.. by TheOtherChimeraTwin · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oooooh! Does drinking toner refills and spraying windex in your eyes give you SECRET powers?? I've got to go try that right away!

    4. Re:Serves people right.. by cyril3 · · Score: 4, Funny
      I brought a new Iron the other day and in capital letters in the instruction book I was told to never iron clothes while I am wearing them and that while I could use the shot of steam while the iron was in an upright position I should not forget the previous instruction about not ironing the clothes I'm wearing.

      I think perhaps the kind of people who would do that do not or cannot read the instruction book anyway but until you realize that you can feel a little unempowered.

    5. Re:Serves people right.. by johnalex · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gives a new meaning to the saying, "never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."

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  5. Reuters Story by ThousandStars · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's another story.

    Funny that I come to submit the article and already find it at the top of the page...

  6. DDOS SCO by forsetti · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok -- which one of you wrote this.....

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    1. Re:DDOS SCO by balthan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Come on now, you should realize by now that people here don't actually DO anything. Sure, we talk a lot of crap about how thing should be done, but we're a bit short on the actually doing.

  7. Virus... by pardasaniman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Back in my day, viruses came in via the boot-sector of floppy drive. You actually had to know fudge to write one.

    You yung whipper-snapper virus writers and your MS holes got it way too easy.

    On one hand it seems to be written by the RIAA, on the other it looks like some linux loony, can it be both?!

    1. Re:Virus... by SiliconAddict · · Score: 5, Funny

      Boot Sectors?! You guys had it lucky.

      In my day we had to throw various insects into giant mainframe machines

    2. Re:Virus... by interiot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, it allegedly opens a backdoor on port 3127, so I'd think you'd either want to not run it at all, or make sure you will be able to keep your firewall up until such time that you verify the virus is completely removed from your system.

    3. Re:Virus... by Haeleth · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ah, but back when I was a lad we didn't have machines to do it for us - we had to catch viruses ourselves by coming into physical contact with infected tissue.

  8. idiots. by edrugtrader · · Score: 5, Funny

    5 posts so far, and 3 of them are of the "I WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN A SCO.COM DDOS" variety.

    people... that is illegal and not the way to win the fight.

    i'd say more, but i have to go load that virus on my 3 other laptops.

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    1. Re:idiots. by MikeXpop · · Score: 4, Funny
      ...that is illegal and not the way to win the fight...
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      Hmm....
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  9. Re:Great! by nocomment · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Second, it can perform a denial-of-service against www.sco.com."

    Initial investigation on the Snort mailing list, seems to suggest that it opens up 63 threads that request sco's index page once every 300ms.

    I just installed it on all of my servers ;-)

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  10. This should make us look very professional. by Tassleman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Second, it can perform a denial-of-service against www.sco.com

    Great. This will give SCO some good PR ammo. Thanks guys.

  11. DDoS by DRUNK_BEAR · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's all fun and jokes at first, but if we look at it from the public's eyes, these types of attacks give a bad name to OSS and the Linux community.

    Obviously, SCO has many ennemies. Most of them are probably nix users and the public knows that. If we want to have the public favor OSS, reputation is also important.

    Just my 0.02$

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    DrkBr
  12. This is not a good thing by Tyrdium · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Think about it. Until now, the Linux community has seemed very innocent over this whole issue. It's simply a matter of a company trying to oppress people for it's own gain (at least in the courts' eye). When people start doing illegal things such as writing viruses to get back at SCO, on the other hand, the Linux community loses much of its innocence. Look beyond the surface; this is a big PR hit for the Linux community. Remember the debate when SCO was DDoSed? This is the same thing, but much worse, and on a larger scale. Writing a virus in itself is illegal, given their nature, and a DDoS is also illegal (I'm not counting Slashdottings and the like).

    1. Re:This is not a good thing by finkployd · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What leads you to believe this is someone from the Linux community? I say it is equally likely someone who hates Linux and wants to make it look bad. Out of work MCSE? SCO employee (assuming they still have people there who can code)? Who knows. Given that this whole SCO mess has been nothing more than a PR war I wouldn't put it past them to have someone do this to improve their image.

      Finkployd

    2. Re:This is not a good thing by Reziac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I un-UPX'd the virus and looked at the text strings. It struck me as a little odd that those related to email headers are ROT-13'd (no kidding, they really are). I've looked at a lot of email trojans, and this is the first time I've seen that done. Here's a sample:

      K-ZFZnvy-Cevbevgl: Abezny
      K-Cevbevgl: 3 boundary="%s"
      Pbagrag-Glcr: zhygvcneg/zvkrq;
      ZVZR-Irefvba: 1.0

      unROT-13'd, it becomes:

      X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
      X-Priority: 3 obhaqnel="%f"
      Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
      MIME-Version: 1.0

      Another ROT-13'd string in the virus:
      FZGC Freire Fbsgjner\Zvpebfbsg\Vagrearg Nppbhag Znantre\Nppbhagf
      decodes to:
      SMTP Server Software\Microsoft\Internet Account Manager\Accounts

      Overall, I get the impression that this is a one-shot by someone who isn't normally in the virus creation business, so to speak. It just doesn't "look right".

      Anyone who's disassembled it have any comments on how it's constructed??

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  13. ClamAV to the rescue by Jibber · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hi,

    I believe ClamAV was the first virus scanner to pick it up and because they couldn't find any others that had picked it up and named it, they called it "Worm.SCO.A". Gotta like Open Source.

    Oh, and I've blocked over 3000 copies of the worm in the last few hours with clamav.

    Jib

  14. It's HUGE by Leme · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Our virus filtering usually quarantines around 40 messages per hour. Right now we're seeing over 1600 per hour.

    At least the MRTG graphs are pretty.

  15. Re:Oh no by the_mad_poster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why on earth would you assume that it would be some fringe Linux zealot? It could be a pissed off SCO employee, an investor, someone from IBM, any number of UNIX developers. SCO pissed off a lot of people and you don't actually HAVE to use Linux or even care about it to be smart enough to exploit a dumbass Windows user's gullibility.

    The only thing more blatantly paranoid than YOUR comment would be to say that Darl himself wrote and released it to make people like you say things like that. Except, Darl is a meathead and I doubt he can spell his own name, so I doubt he wrote it.

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  16. Looking for the virus writer by RY · · Score: 5, Funny

    To show that there are no hard feelings after the virus enterd my work network, I would like to invite the virus writer to play a game of baseball.

    Just show up, I'll brng the bat!!!!!!!

  17. ClamAV already has updated definitions. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unlike some other *cough* commercial virus scanners. If you have your MTA setup properly with clamav (like qmail+qmail-scanner), a simple "freshclam --stdout" will do, then watch the "SCO.A" log messages scroll on by.

  18. A threat? Really? by unfortunateson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let me get this straight:
    1) It has a simple text message plus a binary payload attachment.
    2) It uses no M$ exploits (patched or unpatched) to install itself.
    3) It depends on someone opening the attachment to start an infection.

    And after all this time, people are still clicking on binary attachments? Great googly moogly. At least this sucker is only 20-40K. I'm sick of the 140-160K ones swamping my hotmail account. This one will barely be an annoyance.

    To quote Evil Willow Rosenberg: "Bored now."

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  19. Re:Great! by tigerc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Second, it can perform a denial-of-service against www.sco.com."

    Even though I do not approve of SCO's actions against Linux and the open source movements, the spread of a DOS attack against SCO's website is downright wrong. You should be ashamed of the fact that you place yourself one the side of the people who think it is indeed funny to take a company's site down. Does it really matter if they are a hated group? A DOS attack is just plain wrong. In fact, it might be the lowest form of 'revenge' out there.

    If you continue to support these crackers, then SCO is no longer the big Goliath, and SCO's allegations about the dirty open source movement have some validity. The statement, "hey, it's SCO" proves that we are indeed as worse as McBride. If we want to be victorious in the open source/Linux vs. SCO, then we must hold ourselves higher than supporting DOS attacks against SCO.

  20. Quick to judge by jmichaelg · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This topic has barely 30 posts and several posts are already saying it's a Linux user who wrote it. That's a pretty amazing conclusion given the absence of any data.

    Absence of data, hmmm....You guys wouldn't happen to work for sco would you?

  21. Re:Oh no by aralin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now Darl seems to have some credibility with the Linux == terrorism threat. Good going, guys....

    I'm not so sure, this was obviously done by a WINDOWS hacker. Most of the Linux hackers I know have no freaking idea about MS Windows internals and they honestly don't even care for that sort of "knowledge".

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  22. Re:SCO is down by britneys+9th+husband · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looks like you've figured out how the ddos works. Put "www.sco.com" in the virus, get it mentioned on Slashdot, and the /. effect takes down the site.

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  23. Re:Bad example... by BladeMelbourne · · Score: 4, Funny
    is this really the way to fight against SCO?

    Humour aside, if that was the intention of the virus, it should bring down the SCO email server (mail.sco.com) as well as www.sco.com. This would hurt sales and cause a major inconvenience.

    SCO's lawyers are probably 'creating' a lawsuit as we speak - claiming the portions of the virus are SCO IP. (Which is just as believable as Linux containing SCO's code.)

    SCO could also have written the virus - to hurt the image of their competition.

  24. I would like to see a study done by theCat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    that aims to define exactly who it is that is opening email, saving attachments, opening the attachment, running the payload, and is not using AV software. I mean that is a lot of work by someone with at least *some* clue about email. Who is doing this? Is there a profile? Is it generally a home user, or generally at a public school? Is it that there is a subset of people that for their own sick reasons *always* runs infection attachments just to watch the LAN go down so they can go home early? I'm becoming suspicious [tinfoil hat goes on and is pulled down hard]

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    1. Re:I would like to see a study done by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 4, Insightful


      that aims to define exactly who it is that is opening email, saving attachments, opening the attachment, running the payload, and is not using AV software.

      Mac users fit that defintion. Why should they care about attachments, really? There will be, one day, I'm sure, a virus that infects Macs--just as there have been in the past. And that will be a day of reckoning, as millions of Mac users scramble to get virus-smart. But the last 4 years of being virus-free, without any A/V software, and blithely opening attachments has made most Mac users pretty carefree, and careless.

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  25. Trolling /. with viruses? by TrentC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To all the people who are busy vaulting onto their high horse, ready to scold the Slashdot community for our apparent complicity in this, don't bother. I get so sick of the holier-than-thou attitudes that people cop when the "Linux community" does something to "make Linux look bad".

    First off, why do you assume that the person who wrote the virus is reading Slashdot?
    Second, how do you know he or she isn't cackling with glee over the froth you guys are working up?
    Third, what exactly the hell am I supposed to do about this virus, given that I didn't write it and most likely don't know the person who did write it? Feel bad for SCO?

    If I were a script kiddie, this is exactly the effect I'd go for; try to piss off Windows users and Linux users all in one shot.

    Face it, the "Linux community" is made up of lots and lots of different people, and it only takes a handful to make life harder for the rest of us. But scolding Slashdot isn't going to do anything other than make yourself feel good.

    Jay (=

  26. Re:A threat? Really? by placeclicker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    NEVER underestimate the power of human stupidity.

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  27. It might be usefull to SCO by hamjudo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    SCO has used past denial of service attacks as "the dog ate my homework" type of excuses in court. They were so happy to be attacked the last time, that they put out multiple press releases. SCO's next court date is in early February, maybe they haven't done all their homework this time.

    SCO just started yet another lawsuit, this time with Novell. Now the financial types could be recalculating how many quarters until SCO runs out of cash and has to cease operations. Let's not let them get distracted by stupid email tricks.

  28. Procmail to the rescue by Wee · · Score: 4, Informative
    A few people get mail off my personal domain. They're all Windows users. I added this to my .procmailrc file:

    :0 B
    * ^ *Content-Disposition: attachment;
    * filename=".*\.(pif|exe|scr|zip|bat|cmd)"
    /home/wee/mail/virus

    Looks like it works:

    wee@foo:~$ grep 'mail/virus' .procmaillog | wc -l
    21

    Not terribly effcient, but every little bit helps.

    -B

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  29. Re:Also arrives as a zipped executable! by jfengel · · Score: 5, Funny

    First you save the attachment.

    Then you unzip it.

    Then you execute it.

    Why do the virus writers even bother writing code? If people are willing to do all that, it sounds like the next virus will consist solely of the text:

    "Pick a friend at random. Go over to his house and bash his computer with a sledge hammer."

  30. Re:Mom by Jimithing+DMB · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then you're obviously failing to communicate to your mother the gravity of the situation. In all the years my mother used a Windows machine her computer did not have one virus. The rules are very simple. I also have no trouble at the office. With the exception of the H.R. guy who must open attachments (primarily Word documents) in order to read people's resumes it's been a long time since we had any viruses running on any machines in the Hampton office. Furthermore, through a mistake either my boss or I had made we hadn't set his machine to update virus definitions automatically so I give the H.R. guy a lot of credit for having avoided viruses without it.

    It certainly doesn't hurt to have a Symantec Anti-Virus Corporate Edition and to be running Novell GroupWise instead of Microsoft Outlook^WOutbreak but it's not the end-all of virus protection either. Proper user education is an important part of running a network. I keep the users at the office informed about how viruses work and how they propagate. I let them know that I've done all I can and that it's up to them to use their good judgement. I remind them that message headers are just as easily forgeable as the return address on an envelope.

    It's worth the time. I'm not saying I just wrote one message and all viruses were gone. I wrote several. I talked face to face with people in the office about it. I ask them what they think about viruses and spam. I give them the information they need to make informed decisions. In the end, it makes my life a lot easier.

    The simple problem is that people don't know unless you tell them. They only hear what Tom Brokaw or Katie Couric tells them. Tell them how it really works and they will understand and try their best. A few will slip up. Don't be mad at them, just explain things again so they understand.

    The only case where this won't work is if you have a high employee turnover. If you do then let your boss know that viruses are simply another cost of high employee turnover. If you do that then he will have the information he needs to make an informed business decision. Maybe he'll decide it's worth taking some measures to keep people around. Put it in terms of dollars. Do whatever it takes but viruses can become a thing of the past if more companies started to do this.

  31. Re:Why do people keep clicking... by ewhac · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Because clicking on an attachment shouldn't do anything. Only a fascist pig with a read-only mind would think it even a remotely good idea for an email client (note: "email client", as in handles email. The term, "program launcher" isn't expressed or implied anywhere in there) to load and launch an attachment.

    There are very narrow cases where it's okay to do something. If its MIME type is text/plain, it's okay to display it. If it's MIME type is text/html, it might be okay to display it (providing you block JavaScript execution). If it's a media file (image/whatever, audio/whatever), then it's probably okay to launch a viewer or display it inline. If it's a compressed archive, it's probably okay to display a listing of its contents (automatically unpacking it is right out). And finally, if it's executable, a warning should be displayed before you allow the user to save -- not launch, save -- the attachment.

    Always believe the MIME type. If the filename extension and the MIME type conflict, and you are saddled with an OS designed by orangutans where the three character extension of the filename determines its type, then append to the filename the OS's local extension representing that MIME type before handing off for subsequent interpretation.

    Despite how many times The Finest Engineers Working In The Industry have fscked this up, this is not, and never has been, rocket science.

    Schwab

  32. Re:Oh no by Progman3K · · Score: 4, Funny

    >Now Darl seems to have some credibility with the Linux == terrorism threat.

    No, he doesn't; it's a Windows virus, not a Linux virus.

    Windows == terrorism

    Proof that Windows is a danger to national and economic security.

    --
    I don't know the meaning of the word 'don't' - J
  33. This was probably done to defame us by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Interesting
    We're about the last people who would be out writing Windows viruses. This was probably done to defame us. Or possibly the source of the virus is the usual one - spammers - since it has mass-mailing capability, and the SCO DOS is just misdirection aimed at the community that has produced so many spam-blocking techniques.

    Bruce

    1. Re:This was probably done to defame us by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Informative

      "We're about the last people who would be out writing Windows viruses."

      Try reading at -1 every once in a while.

  34. the giveaway by tacokill · · Score: 4, Funny

    Alright. Now listen up. Here's the deal....and I'm not accusing anyone...I'm just saying...

    "The worm encrypts most of the strings in it's UPX-packed body with ROT13 method,"


    I *KNOW* it was one of you fuckers...

  35. Re: not hard to beat Norton anyway.... by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hate to say it, but Norton Anti-Virus doesn't exactly inspire much confidence with me to begin with.

    I've removed a *bunch* of back-door trojan horse programs (MovieWorld and so forth) from Windows PCs that were running Norton AntiVirus 2003 with all the latest signature updates being "Live Updated". The freeware AVG Anti-Virus personal edition found them, as did a relatively unknown scanner called Avast.

    Why is it people have to pay $30+ per year for a subscription renewal for a big-name, commercial scanner that can't even find things the freeware packages find and remove?

  36. Re:Dark Side of Linux Developers by Zutroi_Zatatakowsky · · Score: 4, Informative

    Air-traffic control systems don't run no Linux. They either run QNX or SCO.

    Linux in Air Traffic Control

    --
    All Hail Discordia. Hail Eris. Fnord.
  37. Funny things on the inside by ghostis · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well I have my copy! Arrived in my fiancee's inbox this afternoon. She helped me analyze it in Linux over the phone. (She's a biblical scholar when she's not hacking. What's not to love? :) Well we ran strings on it, among other things: it contains a few nuggets:

    o Part way down the strings output there the following:

    (sync.c,v 0.1 2004
    1/xx
    : andy)

    Weird.

    sync.c: I believe is a linux kernel file? Maybe it was written on Linux? Who knows.

    o Further down is:

    notepad %s
    Message

    This is consistent with the notepad screenshot on McAfee.com

    o Then some more weirdness: /abcd
    ghijklm
    pqrstNwxyzg
    ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTU VWXYZ

    I guess this cracker knows the alphabet. I am impressed!

    o More funniness:

    Sack_i
    smith[C
    &joe?neo/

    Matrix fan?

    o gold-Pxc

    I guess this is reference to the electronic banking system it attacks

    o Further down:

    USERPROFI

    Going for the registry I see...

    o More sequences

    ASCII
    r=it f
    0aA!0123456789+

    My guess is that the sequences are character food for the random message generator

    o Towards the end:

    Libra

    I guess this hacker is indecisive ;-)

    o Finally, it wraps up with a list of windows dlls and function names.

    -ghostis

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    --


    Computer Science is all about trying to find the right wrench to bang in the right screw. -T.Cumbo?
  38. How I imagine things by skinfitz · · Score: 5, Funny

    it can perform a denial-of-service against www.sco.com. Details at Symantec and F-Secure, although neither seems to have finished their analysis.

    Cut to the labs of the antivirus companies:

    Sir! The new virus seems to launch a DDoS against sco.com!

    REALLY? Great work! Now .. lets take our time over this.. no need to rush things now is there? I mean - we wouldn't want to make a mistake or anything now would we?

    Take a 2 day lunch.

  39. Re:A threat? Really? by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 5, Informative

    The social engineering on this one isn't half bad.

    The first one I got looked like a bounce message, with text saying there were some non-7bit characters so the full message would be in an attachment.

    The payload inside the .zip file was "readme.txt%20%20%20%2020%20%20%2020%20%20%20.scr" , which shows as "readme.txt" in the Windows GUI.

    Believe it or not, there are mailers in the Windows world that send bounces with the original message as an attachment. This worm could easily fool someone who wasn't technical or wasn't paranoid.

  40. from scoreport.com: by herrvinny · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, as proprietor of some anti-SCO websites, let me weigh in here:

    ARE YOU IDIOTS INSANE?

    (FYI, I am a college student, U of W @ Madison) I didn't hear about this new virus until now. But at about 4:30 PM today, I get this email from an attractive, intelligent female friend of mine from high school. She goes to Knox College in Illinois. (Let's call her Kristin) The email is listed below in it's entirety, but basically it says watch out for this new virus. So I figure, OK, maybe some stupid Bagle (Beagle, whatever) virus variation has come out, and computer illiterate college students haven't figured out how to push the big Update button on their virus scanners. No biggie.

    So late evening, around 6:30 PM, I go to a student government meeting (contrary to published doctrine, some college students actually give a shit about what's happening in the world.) I get back, check /., and what do I see? A virus attacking SCO!

    Now, I think everyone here knows I dislike SCO. I own websites that are anti-them (Check my sig, the scolawsuit.com link above, and Litigiousbastards.com linking campaign. But this is not the type of publicity we need. This gives SCO more ammunition, when it needs less. Guess what? The public equates viruses like this to terrorism. The average Joe Sixpack will think "Oh, this poor company's getting hurt by terrorism! These gosh darn Linux assholes are terrorists!" Can you say Guantanamo Bay?

    If you want to DOS someone, do something constructive like sending an email to a Congressman/woman, donate to Groklaw.

    (And yes, I must admit, and in the spirit of fairness, I was laughing out loud when I saw this article)

    My friend's letter:

    Hey everyone - Just something you might want to be aware of even with the virus protection software that you have. School is going well, and I am really enjoying myself here. I have a lot of work, but I am having fun. I even had a bat in my room, which was interesting. Ok, time to go back and do homework.

    Kristin

    =Original Message=
    From: "M. Sean Riedel"
    Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:59:33 -0600

    A new virus, yet to be named, is spreading quickly and has slipped by many AntiVirus applications. If you have received a message with the following parameters, delete it immediately without opening the attachment. You will only become infected if you open the attachment.

    The common factor in its profile is that it carries an unsolicited attachment. So far we have seen filenames of "body", "data", "document", "file", "glszfj", "message", "readme", "test", "text", "vgsu042a", and "vncexdl" attached to messages all with either the .pif, .scr, .zip file extensions.

    We already ban extensions of .pif or .scr. Until the antivirus companies release the definition files to detect this new virus, we are banning the .zip extension also. As soon as our vendors update the definition files, we will remove the ban on the .zip extension.

    As always, if you receive messages with attachments from anyone you do not know or unexpected attachments from people you do know, don't open them. If the message is from an unknown party, just delete it. If it is from someone you know, verify with that person that the attachment was intended since many viruses will forge the sender.

    M. Sean Riedel
    Computer Center
    Knox College


  41. DDOS active Feb. 1 - 12th. by Mustang+Matt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Did anyone bother to read the details?

    SCO hasn't been attacked yet. It doesn't kick in until Feb 1st and then it doesn't even go for two weeks.

    How kind of virus writers to put a time cap on how long it does damage.

    --
    The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
  42. Re:How does this make open source look bad again? by Nucleon500 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    A step backwards for reputation of the Linux and open source communities in the eyes of people who haven't followed the SCO case closely and don't know any better. It's not material harm, but I think perception is important here.

    Darl will say Linux supporters must have done it, and the media will quote him, and clueless people will read it and associate whoever did it with us. So while we know it wasn't "one of us" and we don't support it (except in jest), people will read otherwise. We unfortunately don't get to choose who the public associates us with.