Y Window System Project Started

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Y Window System Project Started

Posted by michael on Thursday February 19, 2004 @05:05AM from the just-in-time-development dept.

cuppm writes "Y, Mark Thomas's final year project for his masters degree, is back in active development (outlined here). Here is the email I received: '...Y development is about to start up again. If you are interested in participating, the website is at: http://www.y-windows.org/. There are links to mailing lists there, and you can download the latest development snapshot, which should compile this time :o). I apologise if I did not respond to your email personally. I was on holiday in Japan when the story broke, and by the time I got back I had over 80 emails about the subject, many of them in depth. If you had specific points that you'd like to raise, I suggest re-raising them on the y-devel mailing list.' So for all those who think it's time for a X replacement, here's your shot. And for those X lovers, use Y's extensibility to make it X compatible." See our previous story for more background.

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Why Windows? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-02-19 05:06 · Score: 5, Funny

Sounds like a good reason to switch to Y Windows!
1. Re:Why Windows? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-02-19 05:41 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Yeah, I've been using XY for years, and I'm really glad. Sure, XX looks nice, but it's really whiny.
2. Re:Why Windows? by aled · 2004-02-19 10:11 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  For some things I like better to use XX to complement my XY, it kinda fits togheter, but you may have your own tastes :-)
  
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Proper nomenclature by andy@petdance.com · 2004-02-19 05:08 · Score: 2, Funny

Is this successor to XWindows actually YWindows, or is it simply XWindows-1K?
Amazing.... by XCorvis · 2004-02-19 05:08 · Score: 5, Funny

The Y-windows site was Slashdotted 30 seconds after it was posted! A new record! Go Team!
1. Re:Amazing.... by Anonymous Coward · 2004-02-19 05:38 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  Kick your brother in the nuts for us, eh Dave?
Stuff by g-to-the-o-to-the-g · 2004-02-19 05:08 · Score: 3, Funny

Why windows? Whats wrong with the command prompt?
(aahhadabahahah why windows)

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1. Re:Stuff by Johnny+Fusion · 2004-02-19 05:14 · Score: 1, Funny
  
  Have you ever tried reading slashdot using Lynx?
  
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2. Re:Stuff by Pig+Hogger · 2004-02-19 05:27 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Have you ever tried reading slashdot using Lynx?
  Did it all the time on the mail server console in the machine room, so the boss thought I was working...
3. Re:Stuff by donutz · 2004-02-19 06:28 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  Try it yourself. apt-get and have fun.
  
  Hmm...lemme give that a try.
  
  C:\Documents and Settings\donutz>apt-get install w3m
  'apt-get' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
  
  Oh well no fun for me :p
4. Re:Stuff by DickBreath · 2004-02-19 07:40 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  Have you ever tried reading slashdot using Lynx?
  
  Yes I have.
  
  First, using Lynx as a web browser suffers from not giving me all of the marketing splash graphics and flash animations, pop up ads, midi background music; and leaving me with only the actual text content to focus on.
  
  As for Slashdot specifically, the major problem with using lynx is that you get only the text of the discussion, but no goatse.cx graphics.
  
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5. Re:Stuff by Zigg · 2004-02-19 09:27 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  C:\Documents and Settings\donutz>
  
  Oh well no fun for me :p
  
  You can say that again. ;-)
Re:At long last! by loyalsonofrutgers · 2004-02-19 05:09 · Score: 2, Funny

Nothing beats ducttape and a trashbag
no by tolan-b · 2004-02-19 05:10 · Score: 2, Funny

there aren't :)
The XFree consortium already has this by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · 2004-02-19 05:10 · Score: 4, Funny

And for those X lovers, use Y's extensibility to make it X compatible.

So basically it's "Y-XFree86", right? There might be prior art here, I've heard people say that for years.

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1. Re:The XFree consortium already has this by compactable · 2004-02-19 07:01 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  Hey - if we got KDE to work with this we could start the "free K-Y" project - tell me that wouldn't get intrest!
Re:Women's Windows by Mr.+Darl+McBride · 2004-02-19 05:11 · Score: 4, Funny

I suppose there's a bunch of jokes possible about this project being for Women only (Y chromosome, etc.) :->
Minor clarification: To be a joke, it must be funny.
If it had been called "Y Don't You Do The Dishes, Bitch" then we might be laughing with you, and not at.
HTH -- ~Darl
Countdown by CaptainAlbert · 2004-02-19 05:11 · Score: 5, Funny

3... 2... 1... Trademark infringement lawsuit from The Open Group!

Quickly followed by a name change to "Y-windash".

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1. Re:Countdown by ciscoeng · 2004-02-19 06:17 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  How about "X++" ?
Re:Women's Windows by pLnCrZy · 2004-02-19 05:12 · Score: 3, Funny

...except for the fact that women are XX and men are XY.

find / -name *base* -exec chown us:us {} \; su -c someone 'export UP_US=thebomb' for f in great justice ; do sed -e 's/zig//g'
Re:Women's Windows by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · 2004-02-19 05:14 · Score: 2, Funny

Um... Women don't have a Y chromosome.

Don't worry, most women he sees on the net are XXX probably, so he wouldn't know anyway.

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Yawn.... by djh101010 · 2004-02-19 05:15 · Score: 5, Funny

Wake me up when we get to Z-windows...
1. Re:Yawn.... by Aldurn · 2004-02-19 05:48 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  You really should use Kermit-Windows for more a reliable windowing system.
  
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Y's installed (who's on first?) by zapp · 2004-02-19 05:17 · Score: 3, Funny

1: Do you use X on linux?
2: No. Y.
1: I was just wondering, what do you use?
2: Y!
1: I'm just curious, now will you please tell me what you use if you don't use X?
2: Y!

ok, that was sorta lame, how about...

tech Support: What desktop environment do you use?
user: ummm why?
tech: You use Y? Ok, so what you wanna do is...
user: What? I don't know what you're talking about.

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1. Re:Y's installed (who's on first?) by aap · 2004-02-19 05:40 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  A Y's guy, eh?
Open Source? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-02-19 05:17 · Score: 1, Funny

> because they don't want to distance themselves
> from their open source friends

Um, you do mean free software friends right?
Re:Y not? by Johnny+Fusion · 2004-02-19 05:19 · Score: 2, Funny

You forgot,

Y? Because we LIKE you! M-O-U-S-E!

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y windows by millahtime · 2004-02-19 05:26 · Score: 2, Funny

wait, every time i sit down in from of my M$ windows machince i ask, why windows?

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Sounds more like... by twoslice · 2004-02-19 05:26 · Score: 5, Funny

Abbot and Costello...
Abbot: Are you using X Windows?
Costello: No, Y
Abbot: I just want to know
Costello: Y
Abbot: Look, All I want to find out is what controls your display?
Costello:: I just told you?
Abbot: Told me what?
Costello:: No, "What" is the name of the window manager....
Abbot: I am not talking about the window manager!

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Re:good idea but wrong reason by Anonymous Coward · 2004-02-19 05:28 · Score: 5, Funny

The GPL should be less like a virus-- infecting whatever code gets close to it.

It should be more like a tiger-- going out and hunting down other code to kill.
name change suggestion... by Chuck+Bucket · 2004-02-19 05:30 · Score: 4, Funny

YINX (y is not xwindows)

CB

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1. Re:name change suggestion... by Chuck+Bucket · 2004-02-19 05:37 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  yep, that makes less sense, and therefore is the more consistant considering past naming conventions.
  
  or it could be:
  
  yinx (yinx is not x)
  
  for added confusion!
  
  CB
  
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Re:At long last! by bfg9000 · 2004-02-19 05:31 · Score: 5, Funny

I may be new here, but will someone give a quick rundown on what exactly Y windows is and how it is different or is an improvement over X windows or any other windowing system?

Simple, Y is One Better.

Just like my amplifier, which goes to 11.

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Re:Call to Programmers by helzerr · 2004-02-19 05:51 · Score: 5, Funny

Actually, since X Windows is at version X11 R6, this will be the at least the 18th time...
Oblig by FatalTourist · 2004-02-19 05:52 · Score: 5, Funny

Skinner: Not the interrogative, but rather a windowing system with the unlikely name of "Y".

Chalmers: Well that's just great, Seymour. We've been out here six seconds and you've already managed to blow the routine.
[storms off, muttering] Sexless freak.

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1. Re:Oblig by bubkus_jones · 2004-02-19 07:11 · Score: 1, Funny
  
  Tamzarian
"Insight" by gumpish · 2004-02-19 05:55 · Score: 2, Funny

From m-w.com:
Main Entry: insight
Pronunciation: 'in-"sIt
Function: noun
1 : the power or act of seeing into a situation : PENETRATION
2 : the act or result of apprehending the inner nature of things or of seeing intuitively

Shame on you, mods.
Re:What sort of compatibility? by monkeyfinger · 2004-02-19 05:57 · Score: 2, Funny

For the folks asking "What's wrong with X?", I suggest you seek out the X windows chapter of that seminal work on the subject, "The Unix Haters Handbook" by Simson Garfinkel, et al.
Good to see those guys back together again. I wonder if "The Unix Hater's Handbook" will be as good as "Bridge Over Troubled Waters".
Re:About Y by nomadic · 2004-02-19 05:59 · Score: 5, Funny

was my final year project for my masters degree at the Department of Computing, Imperial College

Bah, those are the same people who designed the Death Star. Won't Y have the same design flaws?
Re:What sort of compatibility? by Anonymous Coward · 2004-02-19 06:00 · Score: 1, Funny

Don't be so hard on the guy. He's a Mac users and got virtual memory and multitasking two years ago.
Re:About Y by dustmote · 2004-02-19 06:08 · Score: 5, Funny

I find your lack of faith.....disappointing....

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Y?!? by robson · 2004-02-19 06:16 · Score: 2, Funny

It's premature. We're not even at X12 yet. Hell, we're not even at X11r7 yet!

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Re:My, aren't we opportunistic. by Fnkmaster · 2004-02-19 06:22 · Score: 5, Funny

This is an evolution of the graphical subsystem on *nix ... It frees itself from the limitations of the architecture and mindset of X to take advantage of new hardware and ideas for graphical interfaces.

Oh, you mean kinda like a replacement?
Re:good idea but wrong reason by Anonymous Coward · 2004-02-19 06:38 · Score: 2, Funny

Oh, so like SCOs code then?
Re:At long last! by cdyson37 · 2004-02-19 06:43 · Score: 2, Funny

Xfree86 is over 10 years old

I resent that the fact that something is over 10 years old is good enough reason to replace it. I'm over 10 years old.
what I want to know is ... by corris · 2004-02-19 06:44 · Score: 4, Funny

If they'll replace the default cursor with a Y instead of an X.
I'm also writing an X replacement. by cgreuter · 2004-02-19 06:51 · Score: 3, Funny

Mine has a built-in web browser, MIME extractor, yEnc support and a display engine optimized for fleshtones.
I call it "The XXX Windowing System".
Re:At long last! by swillden · 2004-02-19 07:11 · Score: 4, Funny

Xfree86 is over 10 years old
And that means it shoud be scrapped? Win32 is also over 10 years old, do you think we should just scrap that too?!?
Oh, wait... point taken. I'm going to go download Y now.

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The implementation language... by Slur · 2004-02-19 07:50 · Score: 3, Funny

Well, if there was ever a more clear-cut case where something should be developed in the D language I've never seen it.

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Re:About Y by wed128 · 2004-02-19 08:43 · Score: 2, Funny

That's the beauty of it...since Y is only software, it won't require wide cooling ducts leading directly to the power core...and that's just one more vulnerability down the drain...

now about this Network Transparency thing...
Well, true.... by AvantLegion · 2004-02-19 08:47 · Score: 2, Funny

Bah, those are the same people who designed the Death Star. Won't Y have the same design flaws?

Actually, I've yet to find any piece of software that manages to stay intact when I fire a photon torpedo at it.
Instead, I propose we use... by Mixel · 2004-02-19 11:40 · Score: 2, Funny

squeak!
If you can't join 'em, beat 'em by dunng808 · 2004-02-19 12:48 · Score: 2, Funny

RUNAWAY (Del Shannon)
As I walk alone I wonder what went wrong
With our love a love that was so strong
And as I still walk on I think of
The things we've done together
While our hearts were young
I'm walking in the rain
Tears are falling and I feel the pain
Wishing you were here by me
To end this misery and I wonder
I won-won-won-won wonder
Why why why why why why she ran away
And I wonder where she will stay
My little runaway run-run-run-run runaway

I'm walking in the rain
Tears are falling and I feel the pain
Wishing you were here by me
To end this mesery and I wonder
I won-won-won-won wonder
Why why why why why why she ran away
And I wonder where she will stay
My little runaway run-run-run-run runaway
Run run run run runaway.....

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