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iPod Mini Autopsy

tritone writes "Some fearless soul has disassembled his iPod mini and provided pictures and commentary about the process. This really does seem to be an autopsy since he managed to kill it in the process. That's $249 well spent in the pursuit of knowledge. See the full report at www.ipodlounge.com."

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  1. Well... by baldass_newbie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is the battery at least covered under warranty?

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    1. Re:Well... by gringo_john · · Score: 5, Informative
      The battery is covered by the usual on year warranty only. Apple provides an extended warranty which extends the warranty to 2 years.

      When the battery dies under warranty, the usual process is that you send your dead iPod in it's whole to Apple and they send you a refurbished unit.

      Having said that, there are how-to documents that show how to open the iPod and swap the battery yourself, saving a bit of money.

      I guess all the bad press that Apple has received over the lifespan issues of the iPod battery has really pushed them to provide the extended warranty and an avenue to have them replace the battery on a pay per battery type deal.

    2. Re:Well... by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well at least you can recharge the battery on the ipod and get another few hours of enjoyment out of it. Unlike the lapdance.

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    3. Re:Well... by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, the battery is covered by the plastic housing of the case. Well, at least until you take the case apart.

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    4. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      HAH, Thanks for the slashing guys... my server is barely coping ;) I'm going to have Apache recompiled to allow MORE connections. See if that helps... I doubt it ;) And yes, the site runs on a 1st generation iPod. ;) We had problems using the 3G iPod... Linux didn't like the touch wheel.

      Dennis Lloyd
      Publisher/owner
      iPodlounge.com

    5. Re:Well... by ePhil_One · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The issue wasn't that the battery wasn't covered under warranty, I think everyone accepts that batteries, even rechargables, are consumable items, just like the brakes and motor oil in your car. The issue was that Apple wanted hundreds of dollars to replace the battery, making it cost effective to simply buy a new iPod when the battery died.

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  2. Server is already slow - here's the text by ghettoboy22 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Photo server is still up at http://gallery.ipodlounge.com/ipod/thumbnails.php? album=6 Taking apart the iPod mini

    February 23, 2004 By Greg Koenig

    Apple has crammed a lot of stuff into the anodized aluminum enclosure of the new iPod mini, and taking it apart is no easy task. I'm an industrial designer with lots of experience pulling back the curtain and meeting the wizard in PDAs, Mp3 players, stereos, watches and all sorts of other gear. I am usually pretty good at it, having not broken something in years (lots of bug hunts for tiny parts on the floor though). Except my brand-new iPod mini, where I screwed up big time... twice!

    The Procedure:

    Tools needed: (1) Wiha 1.5mm flat head screwdriver (1) Wiha Philips #000 screwdriver (1) Needle nose pliers or medical (Kelly type) hemostats (1) Hair dryer

    To help illustrate my disassembly adventure, view the iPod mini autopsy photos and follow along.

    To begin with, make sure the 'Hold' button is locked into the ON position (showing orange) to prevent the internal components to be turning on while you are taking it apart.

    The plastic top and bottom plates are glued into place with a tacky adhesive that will soften considerably when heated so use the hair dryer on a low setting to heat up the top plate. Work the area until it's very warm to the touch. Now turn the mini around so you're looking at the Apple logo and squeeze the two rounded edges together at the top, causing the enclosure to bow a little bit in the middle. Insert the flat bladed screwdriver between the plastic and the metal (in line directly above the Apple logo) and gently pry the plate straight up. Work around the edges, leaving the area around the 'Hold' button till last. When you finally do get to the 'Hold' button area, pry carefully and pull the plate STRAIGHT up. Behind the 'Hold' button are two plastic standoffs (sort of like tabs) that extend down into the case and push the real switch on and off. If you pry the thing out at an angle, you will break one of these standoffs. That was mistake #1 for me. The actual 'Hold' switch soldiered onto the main board broke, so the 'Hold' switch no longer works.

    Now perform the same procedure on the plastic bottom plate. When it is removed, you will see a shiny sheet-metal plate held in place under spring tension by 4 tabs inserted into reliefs machined into the enclosure. At the end of each of these tabs, you will see a round hole. Use the Philips #000 in these holes and carefully pry each tab out of its slot. The sheet-metal plate will come right out.

    Next, you need to disconnect a ribbon cable that connects the scroll/click wheel assembly to the main baord. This ribbon cable is on the bottom of the mini on the left hand side. It is orange. You can't miss it. Use the 1.5mm blade screwdriver to pry it apart. If there isn't enough slack in the ribbon cable, don't worry, as long as you get the connector loose, you have done your job here.

    Turn the mini over, looking back into the top, you will see two tiny philips head screws on either side of another metal plate. Remove these with the #000 screwdriver carefully and put them in a safe place (don't drop these on the floor, you will never see them again).

    Now comes the fun part - gently push on the 30 pin connector at the bottom of the mini and all of the main components (on an assembly I call the component sled) will slide right out the top. It is a bit tight, but if you meet major resistance, back off and INSURE you have the ribbon cable disconnected. This is where I messed up and killed my iPod mini, I forgot to check and I pushed with all my might, ripping the ribbon cable off of the male connector. Oops.

    The component sled contains nearly all of the iPod's internals; the main circuit board, battery, LCD display and hard drive. While the LCD is held onto the ma inboard with 4 plastic tabs, the battery and HD ar

    1. Re:Server is already slow - here's the text by kiza · · Score: 5, Funny

      > Photo server is still up at http://gallery.ipodlounge.com/ipod/thumbnails.php? album=6

      Yeah, we took care of that.

    2. Re:Server is already slow - here's the text by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 5, Funny

      >Tools needed: (1) Wiha 1.5mm flat head screwdriver (1) Wiha Philips #000 screwdriver (1) Needle nose pliers or medical (Kelly type) hemostats (1) Hair dryer

      Given the outcome, this list is obviously not necessary and sufficient.

      Nifty business idea though.
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  3. More like murder by cerskine · · Score: 5, Funny

    In an autopsy, the doctor doesn't kill anything. So it was more like a murder, then. Think before you type.

    1. Re:More like murder by dnahelix · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, dissecting something while still alive is called a vivisection .
      But, yeah, you can call that murder.

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    2. Re:More like murder by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is apple. It's an iTopsy.

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    3. Re:More like murder by shamino0 · · Score: 5, Informative
      If you are going to kill an iPod just to show how '1337 you are...

      According to the article, he was figuring out the take-apart procedure in order to begin offering a re-coloring service for those iPod mini owners that don't like Apple's choice of colors.

      Obviously, if you're going to fuse new colors into anodized aluminum, you don't want to do it with any electronic or plastic parts still attached.

  4. Duh by savagedome · · Score: 5, Funny

    This really does seem to be an autopsy since he managed to kill it in the process

    /.ers know that real men use 'kill -9' to do this.

  5. Fool! by joelgrimes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He who breaks a thing to find out what it is, has left the path of wisdom. (J.R.R. Tolkien)

    1. Re:Fool! by Trespass · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is also a geek saying that your understanding of computer hardware is in direct proportion to the amount of equipment you've fried. You want to know how it works. When you make a mistake and break something, hey, there's a good chance you won't make that *exact* mistake again. It's cumulative.

  6. I'm sure... by thelasttemptation · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure in a month or two he could have gotten a dead one on ebay, thus saving himself $250. Why, oh why kill a good one?

  7. autopsy ? by funny-jack · · Score: 5, Funny

    This really does seem to be an autopsy since he managed to kill it in the process.

    Somehow I doubt that the D.A. would see it that way.

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  8. Auto Applications by Enze6997 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If there was an easy way to create some kind of direct hot swappable drive slot for this hard disk that you could switch between a PC and a car you could really do some crazy in car audio mods for cheap. Have the i-pod display and controll buttons mounted somewhere in the car and then just wire in the audio to the Aux audio input for the stereo. It would be a not only easy mod but a cool looking one if done right.

  9. All you really need to read is the conclusion by _PimpDaddy7_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Conclusion:

    Don't take apart your new iPod mini.


    Well that takes care of that, doesn't it? :)

  10. Coming soon: iPod Mini's Dirty Secret... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...they break when ham-handed fools take them apart, and Apple won't give said fools a free replacement!

    Paging the Neistat brothers...

  11. Re:When, by Metallic+Matty · · Score: 5, Funny

    will they put out the f*cking $100 one? The one we were all hoping for? Right after Duke Nukem Forever comes out, right?

    Of course they will. Right before Infinium Labs releases the Phantom.

  12. money well spent by markov_chain · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's $249 well spent in the pursuit of knowledge.

    $249 is not a lot, but I would love to see his bandwidth bill this month ;)

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  13. Re:Hype? by damiam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you can strap a discman on an armband and go jogging with it, then you'll have a point.

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  14. Re:We Need Help... by bobbabemagnet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My group at Oregon State University is currently working on a device that uses an old hard drive from an Ipod. We have successfully interfaced with it, and can read and write from it at blazing speeds using an FPGA. See our web site here:

    http://classes.engr.oregonstate.edu/eecs/fall200 3/ ece441/groups/g15/

    If you have more questions, send me an email (also listed on the web page)

    Bob

  15. 4 GB CF extraction.. by steppin_razor_LA · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I read this site yesterday after seeing a link in the Slickdeals discussion forums.

    It sounds like extracting the 4GB CF isn't much of a problem.

    People have been able to put it in a CF reader and get it working fine on their computers.

    A number of people have reported problems getting the CF to work with their cameras or other CF devices working in the iPod. I suspect that this has something to do with how apple formatted the disk and will eventually be solved.

    For those of you laughing at iPod mini buyers -- they could probably sell the 4GB CF cards for a profit.

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  16. Another photo gallery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Can't get to the article, but found this one showing a nicely dissected mini ipod...

    iPod mini Dissection

  17. Ummm.... by Stingr · · Score: 5, Funny

    "This really does seem to be an autopsy since he managed to kill it in the process."

    I'm no expert but aren't autopsies supposed to be performed after death??? I believe the word you are looking for is malpractice.

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  18. Re:Waste of money indeed! by markov_chain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We've been through this already: mini iPods have enough space for most people, so there is no value in getting the roomier one. On the other hand, the smaller physical size makes them much more convenient.

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  19. Re:We Need Help... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've successfully interfaced with my iPod hard drive, and can read and write from it at blazing speeds right out of the box.

  20. Re:$249? by YomikoReadman · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I think you are failing to realize that those products are aimed at two different markets. The regular iPod we all know and love is not being marketed at the demographic interested in a minature MP3 player, along the lines of the RCA Lyra, or other products along those lines. In that same vein, the iPod Mini is not being marketed towards the folks out there who are interested in a MP3 player with anywhere from 15GB all the way up to 40GB.

    I think that once you take that into account, you'll find that the iPod Mini is about the best deal on the market, from a formfactor v price standpoint, as well as the fact that it's the cheapest player in that market.

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  21. Picky, picky, picky by michael_cain · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This really does seem to be an autopsy since he managed to kill it in the process.

    Wouldn't that technically make it a vivisection? Since it was alive when he started?

  22. Necropsy by jkujawa · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a necropsy unless the procedure is being done by another iPod mini.
    Autopsy refers to dissection of a human by a human, or by extension, some instance of class 'foo' by another instance of class 'foo'.

    Actually, in this case, it would be a vivisection, as the iPod started out functional, and died due to the procedure.

  23. Re:$249? by L.J.+Hanson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "i think the mini-ipod will be a complete flop, too price for too little."

    I'd say 100,000 units preordered isn't a flop.

  24. Re:Flash drive by GizmoToy · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is hard drive based. Its just that the hard drive used the Compact Flash interface more common to flash memory. It's a tiny hard drive manufactured by Hitachi.

  25. Re:When, by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Which will come with a copy with Half-Life 2.

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  26. Fool? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He who doesn't break things to find out what it is isn't a geek. (Anonymous Coward)

  27. Slashdoted to hell, solution? by zeux · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ok listen everybody. Let's try to go on the website one by one.

    Stop clicking the link, I'm going first ;)

  28. Re:$249? by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, it's a 0.1 Megaflops.

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  29. Replace that microdrive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Would it be possible to rip out the 4GB microdrive, put it to good use in a camera, and replace it with a 512meg solid-state CF card? Would give you a non-skipping iPod mini that can interface with iTunes, and plenty of space to go work out with it. Plus the cheap microdrive.

  30. Re:$249? by falcon5768 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    well since they have sold 100,000 of them in pre-orders alone I highly doubt its a flop...

    It seems that a lot of the reports are pointing to tech savy females and not us gun-ho more bang for the buck males buying them... I know my girlfriend wanted a pink one the minute she saw it despite the 249.00 price tag (hers is shipping now)

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  31. spend $249 and get ... $480, plus by Mablung · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a discussion that talks about yanking the ($479.95) Hitachi microdrive inside. More discussion on my original source: boingboing

    No sig for you!

  32. Re:We Need Help... by joshua404 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The drive used in the iPod Mini retails for much more than the Mini sells for. Apple is either getting an amazing volume price from Hitachi or they are taking it up their collective asses in order to infiltrate the market.

  33. Re:We Need Help... by Apiakun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, in the case of the iPod mini, the hard drive retails for $500 whereas the iPod mini is half of that. I know of a few digital camera junkies that are considering buying the iPod just for the hard drive.

  34. yet another dissected ipod mini by mohrt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is another one.

  35. Re:We Need Help... by bobbabemagnet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We considered this. It was actually cheaper for us to buy a defective iPod off of ebay than to get it from the OEM. The iPod hard drive was fine, it was another part of the iPod that was defective. Also, since we were using the battery as well, this was a package deal that saved us a LOT of money over buying the parts from manufacturers directly. Finally, we only needed to build a prototype, so getting the parts like this was preferred to begging the OEM to sell us single parts rather than in bulk.

    bob

  36. Re:Waste of money indeed! by Scrameustache · · Score: 5, Funny

    For just $50 more (thats like just #30, not much) you get 10 times the space

    Well, that's just completely misinformed. For 50 more you get 3 times the space actually.

    I hope that Ipod mini is a flop!

    Yes! How dare they engineer, design and sell products?!
    Not only will I not buy it, but I wish financial ruin on them for their audacity in manufacturing a device not aimed at me!

    But, just like how Apple sells 0.1 upgrades of OSX for the price of a 1.0 upgrade

    Who are these people to number their upgrades thus?
    I say if we are to feel that we are getting enough for what we pay, we musn't look at the actual additional features and performance upgrades! We want a BIGGER numbers: Only that is worth money!

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  37. Re:$249? by error502 · · Score: 5, Funny

    A girl-friend of mine wanted to buy an iPod mini, too. I proceeded to explain why it was a waste of money and that she was stupid for even thinking to buy it.

    I made her cry.

    Needless to say, I am a great friend.

  38. Re:We Need Help... by shamino0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    I know of a few digital camera junkies that are considering buying the iPod just for the hard drive

    If you do, point them to this page. The author there recommends buying a Creative Nomad MuVo. It has the same 4G drive and sells for $200.

  39. as the old joke goes by geighaus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Autopsy showed that that patient's death was caused by the autopsy.

  40. Re:When, by Chiron+Taltos · · Score: 5, Insightful
    will they put out the f*cking $100 one? The one we were all hoping for? Right after Duke Nukem Forever comes out, right?

    How does what users hoped for, equate to vaporware? Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall Apple ever saying they'd release a $100 iPod.

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  41. Re:Not quite an autopsy by darc · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the article:

    This is where I messed up and killed my iPod mini, I forgot to check and I pushed with all my might, ripping the ribbon cable off of the male connector. Oops.

    That has got to be the most painful sounding innuendo ever.

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  42. Re:We Need Help... by AoT · · Score: 5, Funny

    So if I sold the drive and the battery I could make a fortune.

    Money here I come.

  43. Next step! by dynayellow · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now you must demand that Apple give you a new one and create an iMovie of you defacing their advertisements.

    Also, register appledidnotpreventmefromdestroyingmyminiipod.com

    MSNBC, here you come!