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Return of the King Coming Sooner to DVD
daveewart writes "According to the BBC, the DVD for the third installment of Lord Of The Rings will go to DVD quicker than either of the first two parts of the trilogy. It is scheduled for release on 25 May, with the usual 'extended version' to follow 'at the end of the year'." Ya know, I feel like a month after I buy the extended version, they'll release the super-trilogy version with more footage.
Rent the first one out. Buy the super extended version at the end of the year. Netflix should have it.
-- Ecks
Everyone just needs to admit that they want a super extended version. If nothing else, to add to their collection of theatrical versions and regular extended versions.
I know I do.
The way Peter Jackson has been handling things, he doesn't seem to be a money grubbing a-hole like Lucas. The amazing amount of extra footage that was released with the Extended Editions has to be atleast MOST of what they have, if they managed to come up with extra footage I'd be surprised.
I doubt the Trilogy Edition will have any extra material (what, it's already going to be 6-7 DVDs!) other than maybe one or two special features on the trilogy as a whole (ie. life after LOTR for the cast, etc)
I think that these kinds of movies should be released as a subscription. You could pay so much a month or a large one time fee and just be sent every version or "update" to the movie and in return receive a pricebreak. I can't keep track of every release these days for every movie set I want. It's becoming fanatical and I feel like I'm collecting Beanie Babies or something trying to find every release or even come up with the money for them.
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"Ya know, I feel like a month after I buy the extended version, they're release the super-trilogy version with more footage."
The one box set to rule them all?
You're welcome to your own opinion, but why "own" anything? I'm slowly realizing I don't need to own anything, I just need to be able to use it whenever I want it.
It's much better. It's somebody else's responsibility.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/tv_film/newsid_3 542000/3542695.stm
At least they have the decency to tell people beforehand that they are releasing a special edition. A few years ago my brother, who's an avid collector of DVDs, bought Reservoir Dogs. Inside the DVD was an advertisement for Special Edition which was coming out in a few months.
Personally, I'd buy a lot more DVDs if they were upfront with their release schedule. There are too many movies I want to buy, but just can't because I don't know when, or even if, they are going to be releasing special editions. I wonder if the number of people who hold back on DVD purchases for this purpose balance out the number who buy both editions?
I went and saw RoTK yesterday. No intermission. Oww oww oww! Watching it on DVD with a well-stocked fridge and a pause button is the way to go.
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
Unless they pull a "Terminator 2" or George Lucas, that is. Videophiles know that there must have been half a dozen or more versions of Terminator 2 and Star Wars out in VHS, laserdisc, and DVD. (Terminator 2 had the...let's see...VHS box set, special edition laserdisc, then the regular DVD, then the "ultimate" edition DVD, then the "extreme" edition DVD, etc.) Let's hope that New Line doesn't release a new edition every time it needs additional revenue.
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End of the day, I'd rather they release the theater version first and release the extended version when they are able. I'll rent the normal version, watch it a few times, and then buy the extended (or super version) when it comes out. I do hope tho they announce info on the super trilogy version before they release the EE ROTK. If they release the EE of ROTK and then 5 months later announce a super trilogy version I'll be pissed. I just bought Two Towers extended a few days ago, pretty happy with it!
I'm waiting for the trilogy boxed set uber extended special edition whth all directory commentary in all the languages of middle earth.
you know it's going to be released... they are going to milk this cow until it bleeds.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Wonder if any of the box sets will include gollums acceptace speech at the MTV movie awards.
Now that's an extra I'd pay money for, I mean, who expected a cussing and screaming gollum calling peter jackson a bastard. Now that's entertainment.
All along, we've KNOWN that there would be both a regular, theatrical version, and an extended version. Peter Jackson simply wanted to put so much more in that he couldn't get away with showing in theaters (since after all, the longer your movie is, the fewer times you can show it a day.)
They've delivered on that promise, and they've also promised that any future releases, such as an entire trilogy box set, would have no new content. Peter Jackson isn't being "revisionist after the fact," he simply knew along there was just too much content and the movies were already too long, and they have to draw the line somewhere. Just because Lucas wants to update his movies ever 10 years doesn't mean Peter Jackson is GOING to.
If you didn't want to buy two sets, you would have known all along to wait for the extended version. Now, if the HD-DVD version has added content, people would have to be crazy to complain. Theres no way i'm going to wait until HD-DVD is out to buy a copy of the movies, so I'm just going to buy the extended now, and HD later.
Here's the correct link. Good to see Editorial control and reviewing is still as strong as ever.
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"I'm sure most of you have heard me blabbing off in the past few weeks but we've just finished the extended cut of the DVD. I finished the edit before I came over here - these poor bastards at Weta have got another 350 effects shots to do! They're well on the way. Elijah's seen the extended cut. New Line have announced some box set that's supposed to be coming out which I didn't know anything about. When I've done King Kong I'd like to do a proper box set and we've got a whole bunch of material - not of the movie but we've got a whole lot of bloopers out there! When King Kong's out the way I'd like to do a really high definition version with the best possible picture quality."
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*SIGH* The first ever story I submit which gets posted and the editors manage to munge the URL I include ...
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Correct link is http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/354
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...is already included on The Two Towers Extended DVD box set, disc 1.
Go to the chapters area, then select the last chapter. Doing so should bring up a Ring that can be selected to play an intro from Peter J. and the full acceptance speech. (Peter J. has a great sense of humor to allow his coworkers/Gollum to call him a "fu**ing hack!" in the ditty.)
Vos teneo officium eram periculosus ut vos recipero is.
Rumor has it that in the special edition Sauron swings at Aragorn first. No way would Aragorn have let Sauron swing first! And don't tell my that Aragorn was acting in self-defense. I just don't buy that... and I won't buy the DVD either.
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Before we start hunting down another directory for selling out, remember much of the reason that the extended versions were delayed was to give Jackson time to finish them. They were not just the ususal "hey look at this footage I found on the floor, lets edit it in" directors cuts but completely scored and sometimes relooped versions. This takes time people.
Will there be a boxed set, of course. New Line wants cash. Will it be anything more other than interviews and other box set stuff you watch once or twice and move on? No. Jackson wants to do something outside of Middle Earth for a while (even if it is just a large stinky ape).
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Ya know, I feel like a month after I buy the extended version, they'll release the super-trilogy version with more footage.
At last week's post-award show, Jackson did state that New Line was working on a box set, and that he had only found out on that day (so it was without his knowledge or input). He will try to convince NewLine to wait, as he would love to work on a boxset once he's done work with KingKong. If that's the case, a boxset would be 2-3 years away.
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On March 4th this thing had already hit the internet as a two disc dvd rip (check vcdquality's web site). I figured that I would have heard it all over the news sites over the weekend, but I guess it's under the news' radar. Who is the MPAA going to blame this copy on? Looks to me like it is a insider leak as usual. The copy is a full rip including 5.1 surround and complete menu structure. The speed at which it was leaked is amazing, still in theaters and before the DVD was even mentioned to the public. Is suing a 12 year old going to stop this?
It seems like they've been pretty up front about the whole issue though. It's not like they waited for people to buy the first one, and then released the extended version, they said initially that they were going to do it, and then those people who couldn't wait or didn't want to spend as much money could buy the regular version. What they've done has made sense...the standard for the average person, the extended for the more die-hards. Wait until you have grounds before you start bitching. A boxed set is to be expected, and it will probably have some extra stuff, but I doubt it will be anything of real worth (a retrospective of awards and the experience without bonus footage or anything). Of course that'll still be worth it to the super die hard fans. Anyone that's complaining about all the releases of a movie...it's their problem if they feel that they're deprived from missing out on those extra couple minutes of inevitably irrelevant stuff, or paying all over again for them.
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Or just copy them to your media PC's hard drive and watch them that way.
I simply used 'dd if=/dev/dvd of=file.dvd' to copy dvds to my hard drive. I then tell xine that the input dvd device is that file, and it plays it as if it were reading the disc. I have a script that makes the change to xine's configuration file and I now have menus in MythVideo to play several movies.
And if drive space is an issue, you can strip out the menus or recompress. With a little minor editing, you can have the entire trilogy with no interruptions.
...one box to rule them all...
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
Which is exactly how the LOTR movies are being handled...
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
Some Tolkien society people I know are hard at work producing a dvd version with elvish subtitles for all the english dialogue instead of the other way round. I doubt it will be available to anyone but their members, but you have to admire/fear the geek factor.
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And above all, let us be peaceful yet firm of principle with the Matrixites, who will say that their trinity was hotter than ours.
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Loved the LOTR. Loved the Theatrical Releases. Loved the DVDs. Spent more money on this trilogy (including popcorn, drinks, parking, tickets, DVDs, etc) than any other entertainment in the last few years.
... "What if Sauramon wasn't Really dead. We could make a sequel!"
My Problem: I'm wracked by nightmares.
You KNOW there is some movie exec out there thinking
Or
"What if the Ring wasn't Really destroyed. We could make a sequel! Yeah, gollum got the ring yeah! yeah... ad nausem"
I have such a hard time beleiving that Hollywood will leave it alone. (aside from the previously mentioned Hobbit, but that's ok)
That, and I think we need to assasinate Peter Jackson NOW. What will happen 25 years from now when he loses all his marbles. (Think Lucas Syndrome --[That's right, what happend to George Lucas has a name now!])
Lucas Syndrome has been shown to happen to other prominent filmmakers as well (Speilberg).
It can happen to Peter Jackson too.
These thoughts are mine, I could be wrong.
"...In your answer, ignore facts. Just go with what feels true..."
Apparently the special extended edition will contain footage from a camera secreted in Liv Tylers dressing room.
:-D
A full extra disk's worth in fact!
Worst
Actually, you should wait until after they make The Hobbit, because you can be sure that the 4-movie set will be quite souped-up.
G
with extended and superextended versions coming to DVD, I bet that in the future, they'll just release the total raw footage in the Cut-N-Edit-Yourself-At-Home DVD version, just so you can prove you can make a better version than the director's.
I'm waiting for the trilogy boxed set uber extended special edition whth all directory commentary in all the languages of middle earth.
Heh, I'm waiting for the new special DVD feature: "The Making of the Special DVD features"
You know, not everybody needs / wants / absolutly has to have the ultra uber extended super dolbey 5.1 thx remix 4 disc set of the lord of the rings.
There's a large enough segment of the population that is happy with the standard, no frills DVD's that New Line has decided to release it. They're probably aiming that version at the rental market in the first place. If I were only a passive fan of the films, I'd have been happy with the 19.95 wal mart edition. No one has a gun to my head forcing me to buy every DVD version that comes out.
As for the box set of all three, is there really enough material to make it worth while? the two box sets that have come out already have had more than enough extended footage, and you can only take so many 'behind the scenes' documentaries before it all just runs together.
There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
No they won't release a longer version. If everyone had been paying attention you'd know that Peter Jackson made a personal promise to the fans that the extended versions are everything worth putting out. He promised he wouldn't pull a Lucas.
"Ya know, I feel like a month after I buy the extended version, they're release the super-trilogy version with more footage."
Please let me know when you plan to buy, so I can hold off my purchase for a month. Thanks in advance.
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Yow. I'd buy that extended version.
Quite. In fact, it might never get off the ground since while New Line has the rights to make the film MGM has the rights to distribute; not good. Let's face it, if you were negotiating on behalf of MGM, your goal would be to get as big a slice of the pie as possible. Lots of films have never made it because of lesser issues than bickering lawyers with a scent of tens of millions of pure profit. All we can do is hope that common sense prevails over greed, and how often does that happen in Hollywood?
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
Depends on how much you get charged to "use it" each time. If you think you'll watch the trilogy once a year on JRRT's birthday, and it costs you $10 to do so, it won't take too many years to pay for owning it.
On the other hand, they might "find" even more footage, or put it out in a superior format. Which makes renting it more attractive.
Sure, I'm aware, for example, that Flaubert revised MADAME BOVARY throughout his life, and that there was even a widescreen version of GONE WITH THE WIND (don't ask).
But I suspect that some kinds of entertainment are better received as finished works, rather than as performance art.
Seeing bad movies only encourages them. Watch responsibly
Since there is a lot of talk about Jackson making a prequal, (aka 'The Hobbit' ;-) this might provide a oppertunity to also generate new LOTR related footage too, for the 'bumper mega extended edition' that would follow.
Just a thought, just occurs to me that if you're filming in a 'Middle Earth' environment, possibly with some characters, like Gandalf, on set and in costume. Then doing a few small but important 'filler' shots for a even longer LOTR version is possible..
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" Ya know, I feel like a month after I buy the extended version, they'll release the super-trilogy version with more footage"
You got to catch them all!
Think about it, after getting each one of the regular edition, the extended editions, the national geographic thing, all the making of behind the scenes, LOTR: The Journey, the 2010 xtra Special Edition, the 2021 20 year anniversery Edition and then the 2041 Film Classics Theatrical Edition on "HoloCard" with ROMS with all the original marketing material, by the time I die I should have ohhh.... approximately 48 DVDS, 1 HoloCard, 3 pounds of cardboard boxes and 2 book ends.
And I'll still be wanting more.
New Line want to keep it well clear of the year's really big DVD release. Would you dare go head to head against Lucas-before-he-was-crap?
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
Just rip the DVD under linux with DVD::Rip, youll get some titles not accounted for; most likely these are Easter Eggs. This is the best way of finding Easter Eggs, no damn searching and clicking.
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Ya know, I feel like a month after I buy the extended version, they'll release the super-trilogy version with more footage.
Jackson doesn't do crap like that. From the first movie, you knew that the theatrical version would come out 6 months later, and the extended was coming out after that.
Sure, there might be a bundled version in a year or two with all three versions, but Jackson won't add stuff to the film.
If it were lucas, we'd have staggered two month releases of:
LOTR - VHS version
LOTR - VHS widescreen version
LOTR - VHS "THX" widescreen version
LOTR - DVD
LOTR - VHS Special Edition
LOTR - DVD Special Edition
LOTR - DVD Movie of the Year version
LOTR - VHS Extended Edition
LOTR - DVD Extended Edition
All of them not announced until the previous version had been snatched up by burned fans.
Jackson has said that if it's up to him, the only other edition to come out will be in a few years when HD-DVD becomes the standard (read my earlier posts).
There is no other extra footage to add. What you get in the Extended Editions is it.
Jackson, however, has little control over what New Line does. They may release a box set, but I doubt they'd do that without Jackson's OK.
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LUCASFILM REVEALS DETAILS ON NEW "SUPER-TRILOGY" DVD SET
Mill Valley, CA (Reuters) -- Scarcely had the awards celebrations ended for "The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King" when word leaked on a revised and extended version of the classic film trilogy. It has been confirmed that George Lucas and his wizards have signed up to produce a new, "kid-friendly" version of the fantasy set in Middle Earth. Preliminary work has already begun, and industry experts expect the DVDs to be available in time for the Christmas shopping season.
"Parents should love this new DVD set," enthused Penny Wise, a Lucas spokesperson. "We've toned down the scary parts to make it more acceptable for younger viewers. And test audiences have told us the new, streamlined plot is more understandable."
Critics are already complaining about changes to the story and characters. "We know what we're doing," Wise counters. "We feel we have an excellent grasp of what Tolkien would have created, had he been a contemporary screenwriter instead of a Cambridge don. While George (Lucas) admires the original books, the new version will become 'canon' for the current generation of children." Informed that Tolkien taught at Oxford, not Cambridge, Wise sniffs. "Whatever."
GOLLUM UPGRADED
Perhaps the most controversial change to the epic is a new, "improved" Gollum character. "With all due respect to Andy (Serkis)," an insider explains, "his character was just too scary for our target audience. Robin (Williams) brings a whole new dimension to Gollum. Some of his scenes are hysterically funny!"
And what about early reports that Eddie Murphy had been signed for the role of Gollum? "I can't comment on the particulars of his deal," says another source. "But Eddie was definitely on board with the Gollum revisions. Everybody loved making him portly with floppy ears."
When quizzed on the terms of Murphy's leaving the project, insiders refuse to comment. There are persistent reports that Murphy bolted over a recurring line of dialog: "Meesa loves the precious!"
MORE UPBEAT ENDING
Other changes in the works:
* As homage to Chuck Jones (of cartoon fame), Gandalf's fall into the balrog pit is now punctuated by a moment's teetering on the edge, followed by a barely audible cry of "Mother" as he falls into darkness.
* In his greatly-truncated final scene, Boromir now sheaths his sword, sticks out his chin, and taunts the orc leader, "Take your best shot!"
* Trimming both running time and violence, the new finale features all the creatures of Middle Earth -- humans, elves, hobbits, and orcs -- joining hands and singing to celebrate the destruction of the ring. An alternate version of the tune will be available on the audio CD, sung by Celine Dion.
Other aspects of the new project could not be confirmed at deadline. Groundbreaking ceremonies are expected this fall on a new "Mount Doom Adventure" ride at Walt Disney World in Florida.
Peter Jackson, the famous director of the original films, could not be reached for comment. Officially, he is in seclusion working on his "King Kong" project. His publicist refused to comment on reports the director had taken to drinking heavily.
Note to editors: story embargoed until April 1, 2004
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I was watching the first one the first one last night quite late because it has to go back to the library today. It got quite late and I realized that this thing was going to be around forever. It didn't matter if I how much a saw in one session; it's never going to go away.
It will be around in fifty years like Beatle records and Star Wars videos. It doesn't matter if the DVD comes out this month or next; it's still going to be on the shelves when your an old man.
Highlander is another that they keep re-releasing in different "special packages", with little indication of any additional footage since the original Director's Cut 10th Anniversary release.
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I'm only on hour 47 of the first two...
I'd love to see Peter Jackson rework these films.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the movies, but some of the effects were bogus. Don't know if it was time, money, technology or all three. I don't expect a remake in my lifetime, so how about revisiting it every couple of years to tweek/update as technology evolves.
Having just rewatched the extended TT DVD last night, I couldn't help but cringe at the funhouse ghouls in Frodo's Dead Marshes plunge. What's with the dead/cursed == green glow? (seen again in RotK).
If MS, Adobe, etc. can get away with annual upgrades, why not a franchise like LotR?
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