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Google's Next Steps

danimlp writes "An article at SearchEngineWatch states that Google and Yahoo have become as almost parts of the operating system, a 'layer' above Linux, Windows or Mac OS. Another article at Kottke.org says that Google is building a a huge computer with a custom operating system that everyone on earth can have an account on. Some people predicts that, after Gmail, Google could start a new instant message service or even its own electronic currency."

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  1. gBucks? by lavaface · · Score: 4, Funny

    If google prints money maybe I can be a googillianaire.

    1. Re:gBucks? by r_glen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm all for them entering the online money business. Anything to get away from PayPal.

  2. GooOS by supraxnet · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Convincing people like my wife to trust Google will be a challenge. But if Google can build that trust, then people might have faith to move their data to a Google Desktop -- and that might make Microsoft's presumed desktop power much weaker.

    The only "Google Desktop" I would consider using would be one that ran on X. And at this point windowmaker does me just fine. If google could make a window manager that was truly effective and integrated directly with their upcoming gmail/web storage, then maybe Microsoft would have to start worrying.

    1. Re:GooOS by Cassius105 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      well

      tbh making google toolbar for web browsers other than IE might be a bit redundant since most of the other browsers are actualy good and already incorporate most of the stuff that the good toolbar has to offer

      its only useful on IE because IE lacks so much functionality

    2. Re:GooOS by vegetasaiyajin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nothing beats konqueror support for google and other things.

      To search, yo simply put gg: plus the search terms on the location bar.
      To search on google images, yo put ggi:
      You can make your own for whatever site you like.

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  3. Imagine... by FrYGuY101 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine a beowulf cluster of... Oh, wait...

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  4. Well, yeah... by pseudochaotic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, from where they are now, Google could do pretty much anything and people would use it. They could easily be as pervasive as AOL or even Microsoft is to most people.

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  5. portal fever by contrasutra · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't try to do everything Google, you can't win (well, no one else has).

    Google has stayed away from Portal Fever so far, and hasn't gotten too cluttered, but they run that risk the bigger they get. There are plenty of companies that do very well in "niche" markets. Basically ALL users will always need a search engine (even more as the web grows), you don't NEED to offer everything.

    Just stay as objective and useful as possible, and people will stay. Honestly I think they should be focusing on cleaning up search results. There is an increasing amount of spam and while it's not their fault, who wouldn't want cleaner, more accurate results?

    1. Re:portal fever by criquet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I agree that Google shouldn't try to do everything but I think IM is a great idea (call it Joggle?). Google can supply their search results via IM. I love ActiveBuddy.com services. I love using my IM client, gaim, for posting to my blog. I'd like it to be the interface to many other services too. I think google would be the ideal company to host it.

    2. Re:portal fever by iabervon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think the Google is going to try the portal thing. After all, they're no less aware than we are that nobody else has made that work. In fact, they just made their search pages simpler.

      On the other hand, that doesn't mean they can't have other features. I think they're likely to keep adding special things you can "search" for, like UPS packages and "(the speed of light / (440 nm)) in THz", since these don't make the interface any more complicated.

      They also already have other pages available, like news.google.com (which indexes news sites in the form of a news site). As long as they keep the reputation of the brand good, and keep the search site focused and the results good, it doesn't matter how much they branch out. They seem to have the right attitude towards advertizers: provide ads primarily to people who are actually searching for products, not to people who are looking for content. They can probably extend their offerings as competently and respectfully of their audience. And they might as well; they've already got the best search engine team out there, and they've got money to expand, so new things they try will use new employee effort, and not detract from the search engine.

  6. Root of Ballamers recent comments by MrIrwin · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Once upon a time Netscape looked like taking over the desktop, with ideas about incorporating improved file browsing and making it the universal front end.

    Thats why MS put som much effort into Explorer..Internet Explorer.

    Ballamer recently bemoaned the MS lack of precense in the search engine and portal space.

    Do I detect a deja vu!

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  7. Let me be the first to say... by NSash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are these people crazy?

    Speculation: in the next few months, Google will abolish world hunger and buy everyone a pony. Google is search engine, not the second coming of Christ.

    1. Re:Let me be the first to say... by istewart · · Score: 4, Funny

      So are you saying that Christ would buy everyone a pony? Where do I sign up?

    2. Re:Let me be the first to say... by in7ane · · Score: 4, Funny

      Never the less, http://www.gchrist.com/ does exist, and as for gpony.com:

      Registrant:
      Google Inc. (DOM-425410)
      2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View CA 94043 US

      Domain Name: gpony.com

      Registrar Name: Alldomains.com
      Registrar Whois: whois.alldomains.com
      Registrar Homepage: http://www.alldomains.com

      Administrative Contact:
      DNS Admin (NIC-1467103) Google Inc.
      2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View CA 94043 US
      dns-admin@google.com +1.6503300100 Fax-+1.6506188571

      Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      DNS Admin (NIC-1467103) Google Inc.
      2400 E. Bayshore Pkwy Mountain View CA 94043 US
      dns-admin@google.com +1.6503300100 Fax- +1.6506188571

      Created on..............: 1995-Aug-13.
      Expires on..............: 2006-Aug-12.
      Record last updated on..: 2004-Mar-31 16:50:22.

      Domain servers in listed order:

      NS1.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.32.10
      NS2.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.34.10
      NS3.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.36.10
      NS4.GOOGLE.COM 216.239.38.10

      ...so don't be so sure.

    3. Re:Let me be the first to say... by platipusrc · · Score: 4, Informative
      lies!!

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      Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
      with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
      for detailed information.

      No match for "GPONY.COM".

      >>> Last update of whois database: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:11:51 EDT <<<
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    4. Re:Let me be the first to say... by SkiifGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

      SELECT FROM sense_of_humour WHERE UID = 595850; 0 rows returned.

  8. More? by cubicledrone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    a huge computer with a custom operating system that everyone on earth can have an account on.

    Some people predicts that, after Gmail, Google could start a new instant message service

    or even its own electronic currency.

    Gee, I don't know. I thought they had a good search engine.

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  9. Wow, Google IM! by JoeBaldwin · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Please please please make this Google! Especially if:
    • You release the protocol as open, or at least make a Linux client (with all the features of the Windows one)
    • You manage to get my friends off MSN, the shittiest messenger service ever owned by a shitty company with a shitty record on doing things non-shittily.
    • It interfaces with Gmail (all the benefits of MSN/Hotmail, none of the drawbacks! w00t!)
    • Three/four words: Home Star Runner Alerts. Imagine: "You have a new Strongbad Email! Click here to view!"
    /me prays for this to actually happen
  10. Google: the Apple of the internet by capz+loc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google seems to be very analagous to Apple's development in many ways: 1. Start offering one revolutionary (not neccecarily original) service or product (Apple: cheap computers, Google: search) 2. Become a household name 3. Slowly add more services/products that are somewhat related to the core product (Apple: iMovie, et al, Google: GIS, Gmail, et al) 4. Take over the world (forthcoming) Microsoft has also arguably followed this track, but has actually made it to the last step. My hypothesis is that once you reach step 4, people start hating you.

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  12. This just IN! by phita23 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This just in: "Google to define a new universal standard of internet measurement, called a G-Unit."

    1. Re:This just IN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      In other news, Google has started up a new, popular hangout in many states. Called the G-Spot, it appears to be immensly popular with women, yet many men seem to have trouble finding it, even with directions.

  13. Hmm by ghettoboy22 · · Score: 4, Funny

    From http://www.kottke.org/04/04/google-operating-syste m "So. They have this huge map of the Web and are aware of how people move around in the virtual space it represents. They have the perfect place to store this map (one of the world's largest computers that's all but incapable of crashing)."

    SkyNet? Is that you?

  14. Google + open protocols = awesome. by newdamage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google mail would be nice, especially if it had quality POP3/IMAP access that only cost $5-10/month. But that's nothing terribly special, there are some good services out there that already do that. Now if they made Google chat available, and based made it a Jabber based service and just put the Google name it on, that'd be awesome. It'd have the name recognition to get popular, and programs like gaim wouldn't have to constantly fight for access like they do with the AIM, Yahoo, and MSN protocols.

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  15. Yahoo what? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Interesting

    how prominent Google and Yahoo have become as almost parts of the operating system

    Ok, so Google is a really good search engine (although you should also look at Vivissimo, it's quite excellent too) and I use it all the time, and everybody I know uses it all the time, and my dog would become depressed if he didn't use it regularly too. But Yahoo?

    I don't remember the last time I used Yahoo. Or rather, I know I have an Egroups^H^H^H^H^H^HYahoo Groups account that I've given up on using since Yahoo decided to dump a million metric ton worth of advertisement on me in each page, and I think I went to yahoo.com to check it out with a glazed eye when I read somewhere that it stopped using the Google search engine not so long ago, like it mattered to anybody since I fail to remember anybody I ever met who uses Yahoo for anything whatsoever.

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  16. Long term plan by product+byproduct · · Score: 5, Funny

    Today Google is an operating system layer.
    Tomorrow they're a utility, like gas and electricity.
    Next week they're a small government.
    Next month they take over the world.
    Maybe also the galaxy.

    1. Re:Long term plan by mpcooke3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unless a better search engine comes along, in which case we ditch google and forget about them in the space of about 3 hours.

      Matt.

  17. The Sky's the Limit by william_lorenz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Google now has all sorts of information on hand. They have the Google search engine to index web pages, various offshoots to index news, images, and similar, Orkut to index people, and Gmail to index peoples' communications. With all this information at their fingertips, the sky is the limit (and it is good to know they seem responsible in the way they use their information, separating advertisements from search results, for example). I know that Google has some exceptionally brilliant researchers on staff, and I expect to see even more excellent services from their camp in the future. Does anyone else think that Google is on the cutting edge of Computer Science research?

  18. Here you go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re:Here you go by discogravy · · Score: 4, Funny
      one of those images led me to this website.

      I might have to go back to school. I wonder if Google will open a University one day.

  19. Nostradamus obviously predicted this by Billobob · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The young lion [google] shall overcome the old [microsoft]/On the field of battle in single combat; [desktop]/In a cage of gold [computer] he shall pierce his eyes: [gates' breaks his glasses]/Two knells one, then to die, a cruel death [bankruptcy]"

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  20. What they need ar auctions by Unregistered · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ebay is full of scammers and the feedback system is horribly broken since scammers can pad their own feedback, but if you leave them negative, they will leave you negative feedback as well as revenge. Somebody needs to come up with a better system and google has the ability to actually make a better system popular.

    just the $.02 of someone sick of browsing pages of scams to find a dvd.

  21. Privacy monster by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google is becoming a potential privacy monster; if you concider GMail and cross indexing with the terabytes of data they've gonna get theire hands on... You see, it includes never-to-be-deleted mail archives, all newsgroup postings since the 80's, mailing list archives, blogs, *cached* snapshots of personal web pages... the list goes on.

  22. I'm waiting for Google goggles... by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd like a pair of virtual stereo glasses that could project a screen in front of my eyes, and which would activate keyword searches using silent pre-vocal muscle movements. Then google would be an integral part of my being.

  23. Danger, Will Robinson.... by vyrus128 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just remember, the reason Micro$osft was able to become our evil overlord is because we let them. We bought their software, we gave them our money, and we said "Here Bill, we trust you not to abuse us." Just because we all love Google doesn't mean we should allow power to be concentrated like that... we've already made that mistake once. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." -- attributed to Lord Acton, 1887

    1. Re:Danger, Will Robinson.... by mvdde_xh · · Score: 5, Funny

      And I think it was Bill that said "Power corrupts, but absolute power is kinda fun".

  24. Re:GooOS? by baywulf · · Score: 4, Funny

    They will combine SkyOS and .NET to form SkyNET.

  25. Re:GooOS? by cornjchob · · Score: 4, Funny

    They will combine SkyOS and .NET to form SkyNET.

    Then, they'll build a robot with an Austrian accent and send him into the past to run against the governer of California

    Hell, if the story gets good enough, I say we make a movie. Perhaps James Cameron would be interested in directing?

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  26. Re:The Philosopher's Google Box by 4minus0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Easy...take a breath.

    I am quickly losing the esteem I have always had for Google with this out of control shitfest of sappy, foaming-at-the-mouth hype.

    If you didn't notice, nobody from Google wrote any of these articles. They aren't hosted by Google. I'll recap for you:

    • An article at SearchEngineWatch states...

    • Another article at Kottke.org says...
      Some people predicts(sic) that...

    I'm no apologist for any company, but your post blasts Google for no good reason. You now dislike Google because of a few articles not written by Google??? Google is one of the few usable search engines available and I'll not jump the gun on hating a company with such a good track record.

    Frankly, I would feel uncomfortable giving my data to any company, especially if they are not obligated to destroy it after I terminate my account.

    You've never bought a car? A house? Used a credit card? A debit card? You posted that comment through an anonymous proxy that you connected to using someone else's computer or a wireless account you sniffed? Google is right now one of the few companies I would feel comfortable with my information. Again, they have done nothing to make me feel differently.

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  27. All of this... by No.+24601 · · Score: 4, Informative
    is just pure speculation. I think it's foolish to think that Google can translate their "limitless" (ya sure) computing power into actual revenue. This essentially boils down to whether people are willing to give up the freedom they have storing and managing their data on their PC. Remember .NET ;)

    There is limited demand for web services today and I don't see this demand growing in the near future. There's only so much one can do in a web browser before you're better off working locally. Things like client-side ActiveX and Java, while supposedly making web services a reality, are slow, bulky, ugly and difficult to use.

    Besides their foray into email (essentially nothing new), Google will find little potential for growth in their product line. I think the company should stick to improving their search technology by getting access to more data sources and making their results more relevant (there is still much work to be done!)... that's if they want to be dominant player 5 years from now.

  28. Googlebar for Mozilla by jrockway · · Score: 4, Informative

    True, and this is the google baar for mozilla, if you want one :)

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  29. Re:Argh! by Alethes · · Score: 4, Funny

    Linux is just the kernel. The OS is Google/Linux.

  30. Google is a search engine. by manticor24 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Every day I hear another hairbrained scheme about what Google is supposedly doing next. Start IM platform? Take over the desktop market? Make their own currency? People, please use your head here!

    First off, Google hasn't done anything so far that they can't immediately see the return on investment. Look at their aquisitions:

    • Deja.com: IMHO they bought this to 1) Remove Usenet from search results to improve quality and, 2) show applicable ads later.
    • Applied Symantecs: The underlying technology for AdSense, which greatly expanded their contextual marketing market share.
    • Pyra Labs: IMHO same basic principle as the Deja aquisition.
    All of them directly affected their major revenue generator, search marketing, in a positive way. (Though blogger might have more untapped potential.)

    Now, in comparison, these other theories have no basis on reality. The fact that Google is in a position to have these wild rumors about their Godlike Power is a direct result of the highly profitable search advertising market.

    So what is Google going to do with their money? Not piss it away on the logistical nightmares of "GooOS", or "Google Bucks." In fact, they will be effectively printing money by expanding in their core market with the likes of Froogle, GMail, Orkut, and other future innovations.

  31. Concentrate by Jesus+IS+the+Devil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google is what it is today because it concentrated on what it does best, SEARCHING. All this talk about Google adding auctions, IM, chat, etc etc is just gonna distract Google.

    Remember all of those other search engines turned "portal" (buzzword of the dot com days)? What happened to them? They all took a turn for the worst and got sideswiped by a little unknown company named Google. Let's stop it with trying to add "sticky" features. Stickiness and portals went out with the dot bombs.

    Or has our memory faded so quickly?

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  32. Yes (was Re:Does anyone here HAVE a Gmail account) by zavyman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's pretty awesome. Keyboard shortcuts, clean, simple user interface, labels, a distinction between the inbox and the archive... the list goes on. I also tested encrypted emails with GPG, and this does not violate the policies.

    It's all that you'd imagine and more. I am thoroughly impressed, though I don't yet want to make it a primary account over the 100mb IMAP service I have.

  33. Re:Does anyone here HAVE a Gmail account? by KFury · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have a Gmail account, but then I helped build the thing.

    No, current users aren't under an NDA.

  34. print.google.com by xtal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google could also change the way the printing industry works overnight with this service - I use the internet for much of my reference needs now, and a few times a year I buy a couple hundred worth of books to add to my reference. The problem is there's a major time investment in locating what new books are actually worth buying - sometimes exceeding the value of the book, almost insignifigant to the effort spent reading and understanding what is in it.

    It's not up there any more, but it looked like google was playing around with buying large volumes of IP from publishers then offering it for instant buy in pdf format online. As someone who has a few books in the works and is wondering how to go about trying to make some money from them - a search service and sales avenue managed by google would be amazing.

    "Sold!"

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