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Sega Unveils OutRun 2 Xbox, Shining Force, 'Explosive Announcement'

Thanks to Gigex for its article revealing Sega has announced an OutRun 2 conversion to Xbox, as "handed off to UK-based [developer] Sumo Digital", which will "support network play for 2 to 4 drivers, along with online [Xbox Live] support for an as yet unknown number of players" - Eurogamer has the first screenshots of the conversion. Elsewhere, 1UP has new details on Sega's Shining Force franchise, as the notable RPG series gets extended, including a "completely original Shining Force strategy-RPG for PS2, developed by Amusement Vision", and the freshly previewed spin-off, Shining Tears, a "top-down 2D action-RPG with computer-controller partners to join the fight." Finally, Sega is extensively hyping an unknown E3 announcement which "will surprise the gaming world."

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  1. Start the rumor mill... by josh+glaser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...so, what do you guys think this is? As much as another Sega console would rock, I don't think it's likely. In fact, I don't think anybody thinks it's likely. But hey, this announcement is supposed to suprise us all, right? Idunno - it sounds like to much hype to be just a game...

    1. Re:Start the rumor mill... by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 3, Funny

      My guess? Night Trap 2: This Time It's Not Crap

    2. Re:Start the rumor mill... by sidesh0w · · Score: 1

      If the announcement is, in fact, "explosive", perhaps it's a new Bomberman game?

    3. Re:Start the rumor mill... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bomberman belongs to Hudson, not Sega.

    4. Re:Start the rumor mill... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it's Night Trap 2 featuring zombies with explosive diarreah.

    5. Re:Start the rumor mill... by ArmpitMan · · Score: 3, Funny
      I bet it's a new console! I bet it's a handheld with three screens! And they're all holographic! (Sega has been sitting on the technology for years!) And it's backwards compatible with the Dreamcast and the Sega CD and the XBOX!

      Here's another one: They're releasing an online version of Segagaga, and basing all of their business decisions off of the actions of the best players.

    6. Re:Start the rumor mill... by SphericalCrusher · · Score: 1

      Yeah man. As much as I really want it to be that, I really doubt it will be. But on the other hand, we might see the return of the GameGear or something similar?

      All I have to say is... Sega for life!

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      "Instant gratification takes too long." - Carrie Fisher
  2. Favorite Game of All time by Deliveranc3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The original Shinning force is my favorite game of all time.

    It's a combination RPG and Turn based strategy that is just spectacular.

    Pick up the rom and play until you get past the battle with the marionette. (About 3 hours) It's well worth a look, the music becomes captivating and the story is quite interesting though obviously a little simple.

    1. Re:Favorite Game of All time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, ignoring the fact that the SF series is just a ripoff of the Fire Emblem games, and that SF is just a spinoff off Shining in the Darkness. It's a pretty good game. It comes in no way close to the greatness of Fire Emblem 4 though.

    2. Re:Favorite Game of All time by Paolomania · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I still like Shining Force better than *Tactics. One of the big reasons is that the characters are well differentiated, even within the same character class. I think this helps define their personalities (consider how different each of the centaurs plays - i.e. this one makes a good tank, but can't aim a lance ot save his life; that one is a great lancer, but is vulnerable to magic due to low HP, etc.).

      I didn't like SF2 as much - I can't see how people prefer SF2's graphics, and somehow it felt less like an epic adventure. I don't know too much about where they took the series after SF2, but from the screenshots it looks like they've turned it into a gernicized fantasy-anime RPG, but I really hope they are keeping in touch with the original SF's roots. Its been a few years since I've gone back and played them, maybe its about time to revisit Max and the gang...

    3. Re:Favorite Game of All time by JackDeth · · Score: 2, Funny

      The original Shinning force is my favorite game of all time.

      Don't worry. You can say Shining. You won't get sued.

      And I agree. Shining Force is one of my favorite series. If only Sega would release the new one on the Xbox... (with the original as an unlockable!)

  3. Shenmue III? by jetfuel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If Shenmue III is announced as an Xbox exclusive, I think my brain might explode in an obsessive/moralistic paradox of "Must Play Shenmue" and "Must not buy Xbox". If instead the announcement is that Shenmue III-VI are all on the way as Dreamcast2 exclusives, my brain will just explode with happiness. :D

    1. Re:Shenmue III? by POP-3-seed · · Score: 1

      After going to Sega's official site, I started wandering around, trying to find some info like what happened with the E3 story on here a couple days ago, and came across this. The image is missing, but the filename of the supposed picture suggests that it might be that announcement, seeing as I didn't see Shenmue III on Sega's normal e3 lineup.

    2. Re:Shenmue III? by POP-3-seed · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm gonna have that Ryo vs the Space Mutants game come hell or high water!

    3. Re:Shenmue III? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      http://www.sega.com/games/game_temp.php?game=Jew_F uckers- those Nazi motherfuckers!!! I am going to boycott Sega now. Look, they've got a game called "Jew Fuckers" in pre-production.

      http://www.sega.com/games/game_temp.php?game=POP-3 -seed- this game, on the other hand, I will buy as soon as possible.

    4. Re:Shenmue III? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw Shenmue II for the PC, so there might be hope for you...

  4. Alex Kidd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can think of only one thing that would warrant this extensive hyping: the return of Alex Kidd.

    1. Re:Alex Kidd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Miracle World?

      http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/data/35081.h tm l

  5. Hey I know by Kizzle · · Score: 2, Funny

    I bet Sony will have a better special announcement and they will have to cancel there's half way through. Hahahahaha *badoom chssh*

  6. Outrun 2 by petteri_666 · · Score: 1

    Outrun 2, can't wait that game. I have been playing the orginal with Shenmue IIs bonus disk with dreamcast and it's awesome. But to be honest those screenshots don't look as good as the arcade verson.

  7. On that 'surprise' thingy... by Illissius · · Score: 1

    The DC2 is obv. the first thing that comes to mind, but I highly doubt that's it, as while it would definitely be surprising, a console takes many years to develop, meaning they'd have to have started on it around the time they decided to focus exclusively on software as a third party -- which makes no sense.

    The only other alternatives I can think of are that (a) they're being bought out by someone, or (b) they're becoming a second party to someone (essentially the same thing). A Sega-Nintendo merger would be /sweet/ for all the obvious reasons, but Nintendo probably has the least deep pockets of the three, so it's less likely. But I don't think the other two are very probable, either, though, so I guess it'll actually be what they said -- a surprise.

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    1. Re:On that 'surprise' thingy... by Bagels · · Score: 1

      Nix the being bought out/second party thingy - if they were, they wouldn't be announcing new games for two different platforms right now (PS2 and XBOX).

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    2. Re:On that 'surprise' thingy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2nd party doesn't always mean exclusive. Nintendo has had a few 2nd parties who do basically what they want, Squaresoft was technically a Sony 2nd party and spun off a company to make the FF games for GBA/GC

    3. Re:On that 'surprise' thingy... by bigman2003 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My guess is that they will have a fairly exclusive contract with Microsoft. Probably starting with the next generation of consoles. I am guessing that the current crop of PS2 games are the last non-Xbox titles you will see from Sega for a long time.

      Sega wants money. Microsoft has money.

      Microsoft's future in the game business is competing against TWO giants. Sony, and EA. Microsoft will be making their own hardware to compete against Sony, but in the games area they need more exclusives that are quality titles. Especially more 'non-American style' exclusives.

      If Microsoft was able to hype the Xbox 2 enough to Sega, and convince them that sales would be equal to what PS3 gets, then we might see a more polarized marketplace: Sony/EA vs. Microsoft/Sega.

      Of course Nintendo will be out there too, but I predict that these will be the big players in the next generation. But even with a deal with Sega, MS is going to have a tough time in Japan.

      Of course this is only my prediction...if it comes to be, just call me Nostradamus. If not, just call me Nosferatu.

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      No reason to lie.
    4. Re:On that 'surprise' thingy... by unclethursday · · Score: 1
      My guess is that they will have a fairly exclusive contract with Microsoft.

      They've already been doing this, sort of. Games like Panzer Dragoon Orta, JSRF, Toe Jam and Earl III, House of the Dead III, Otogi: Myth of Demons, Shenmue II, and some others have appeared only on the Xbox.

      Unfortunately, most of the Xbox exclusive titles haven't seen very good sales... even the stellar Panzer Dragoon Orta languished with sales, and fun games like JSRF also were not selling (and JSRF is now out of print as well).

      Sega would do better to keep going with as many multi-platform titles as they can, so thjey can recoup more costs and turn a profit.

      The exclusive titles they've done on consoles have been hit or miss with sales. The Super Monkey Ball series did well on the GC, but Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg did not, nor did the stellar Skies of Arcadia Legends. Virtua Fighter 4 didn't do as well as hoped on the PS2. And, as I've said, even though many of their Xbox exclusive games are incredibly good, they don't see many sales.

  8. Sega Virtual On for the X-Box by EastCoastLA · · Score: 1

    That would be cool and be an x-box live game. Very cool. I can only dream.

    1. Re:Sega Virtual On for the X-Box by n0wak · · Score: 1

      what, like SEGA GT Online? Or Phantasy Star Online? Your dreams need to catch up with reality.

  9. Handheld DreamCast by News+for+nerds · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How about DC portable? Dozens of DreamCast games are WindowsCE-based, then it's not unnatural for Sega to go handheld with WindowsCE.

    1. Re:Handheld DreamCast by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      there's just one problem, most(all) the games written using the windows ce sdk for dc suck.

      dc portable would be friggin cool though..
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    2. Re:Handheld DreamCast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They DID create a unified chip that combines all of the innards of the Dreamcast into one piece of silicone. They designed it for use in set top boxes like DVD players but nothing ever came of it. There was also talk a PCI expansion card that would let computers play DC games...

      http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/089/089867p1.h tm l
      http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/087/087172p1. htm l

      I guess they could dig up the plans and refab it on 90nm, but that's just crazy talk. They should have done that a LOOONG time ago if that's what they were going to do.

      Fact of the matter is the Dreamcast is a pain in the ass to develop for because the PowerVR handles object models back assward so you have to have completely new middleware. The fact the Dreamcast failed is mostly attributed to the fact EA pulled all support for it because they have one middleware package for all their products and they didn't want to rewrite it just for Dreamcast games.

      While it would be... interesting... it would completely go against their all-software philosophy and it would be a dead end because developers would not subject themselves to relearning the PowerVR architecture.

    3. Re:Handheld DreamCast by Bricklets · · Score: 1

      Well, they did use to have the GameGear (I had one of those) but that lost out to GameBoy and finally died away. Really no sense in Sega trying to re-enter that market after they've left it.

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    4. Re:Handheld DreamCast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which Dreamcast games are Windows CE-based? Only a handful (Worms, Hidden and Dangerous), all of which are crappy PC ports. All the good games are developed with Segakatana, the dreamcast development kit hardware/software thingie.

  10. Process of elimination. by Mandoric · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In roughly reverse order of probability:

    It's not a console---they wouldn't be announcing for PS2 or XBox if it was.
    It's not exclusivity for either---obviously, given the previous.
    It may be a handheld---a shrunken version of the HK pirate Treamcast. If anyone's stupid enough to try to launch a handheld between the GBA, DS, and PSP, it's Sega.
    It may be a new arcade platform, possibly with a home enthusiast version a la Neo-Geo---Sammy owns bits of Sega, all of SNK, the Neo-Geo itself is dying, and Sega is still heavily involved in the arcade business.
    It may be something like Nintendo's "megaton" announcement---A game with dense appeal to the one target audience the quote was aimed at, and little to others. Candidates: New Sonic, new Shenmue, new Panzer Dragoon, English-language Sakura Taisen, new Phantasy Star.

    1. Re:Process of elimination. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's really a "Megaton"-type announcement, then it's something for the North American market this time. Sega of America is the one that revealed the upcoming announcement.

    2. Re:Process of elimination. by Leynos · · Score: 1
      It may be a new arcade platform, possibly with a home enthusiast version a la Neo-Geo---Sammy owns bits of Sega, all of SNK, the Neo-Geo itself is dying, and Sega is still heavily involved in the arcade business.

      Sammy don't own SNK. Playmore own SNK. I also find this possibility unlikely for several reasons. There wouldn't be much point in an enthusiast system, since it would never be far enough ahead of the PS2 or Xbox to make it stand out. Sammy are also already heavily into promoting their Atomiswave arcade platform. Lastly, E3 is focussed on consumer platforms, not arcade hardware.

      It may be something like Nintendo's "megaton" announcement---A game with dense appeal to the one target audience the quote was aimed at, and little to others. Candidates: New Sonic, new Shenmue, new Panzer Dragoon, English-language Sakura Taisen, new Phantasy Star.

      You're right, this is the most likely.

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      "Did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?"
  11. Note this: by -kertrats- · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Arcade developer Sammy owns a controlling share of Sega. Sammy came out with the Atomiswave arcade hardware this year, to cycle out the aging NeoGeo system. NeoGeo had a console system come out with its hardware (even if the games cost several hundred dollars a piece). I can see an Atomiswave-based console from sega.

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    1. Re:Note this: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Atomiswave IS a DreamCast.

  12. Secret sega game? by epox_999 · · Score: 1

    Could it be that secret game that sega was working on last summer in the midwest? There has been no news on it since last june. A Survival Horror game? Sega workers took pictures of everything in the town. Lightswitches, floors, cars, house shingles, etc. "The result was a nine-day trip to Carbondale for the Tokyo-based team to capture those touches of realism and e-mail them back home for the new game. On Monday, head designer Shinichi Ogasawara led the team through police headquarters. They recorded close-ups of manila folders crammed onto shelves, the computer console in the emergency dispatcher's room, and the measuring chart that hangs behind suspects in mug shots to display their height. " http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2003/07/01/ news/local_illinois/8476a93db17d9d6486256d55007dcf e0.txt http://www.abqjournal.com/venue/videogame_news/apg ame_carbon06-30-03.htm

    1. Re:Secret sega game? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Could be.. There was speculation from Gamers.com that that particular game is a collaboration with Michael Crichton dealing with an alien invasion and is slated to be released this fall. As the second article states the director of the game, Hitmaker's Shinichi Ogasawara, last did The Lost World: Jurassic Park, a Crichton universe game that probably involved interaction with the writer. Their inference is probably dead on.

      http://www.gamers.com/news/1242927
      http://www.g amers.com/news/1413594

      If not the "super secret" it should at least have ben announced for E3 with the other games because of its 2004 projected release date. Given that it has not been announced and it should be, this is probably the secret.

  13. secret sega midwest U.S. game? by epox_999 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    sorry, Could it be that secret game that sega was working on last summer in the midwest?

    There has been no news on it since last june.

    A Survival Horror game?

    Sega workers took pictures of everything in the town. Lightswitches, floors, cars, house shingles, etc.

    "The result was a nine-day trip to Carbondale for the Tokyo-based team to capture those touches of realism and e-mail them back home for the new game. On Monday, head designer Shinichi Ogasawara led the team through police headquarters.

    They recorded close-ups of manila folders crammed onto shelves, the computer console in the emergency dispatcher's room, and the measuring chart that hangs behind suspects in mug shots to display their height. "

    http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2003/07/01/ news/local_illinois/8476a93db17d9d6486256d55007dcf e0.txt

    http://www.abqjournal.com/venue/videogame_news/apg ame_carbon06-30-03.htm

  14. NiGHTS 2, maybe? by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    Or maybe not, exactelly because it would not be that surprising - Takashi Iizuka said in a recent interview : "I promise that as long as I'm with Sega, I will create Nights again... the more I hear from the fans about their love for the game, the more reasons I have to consider it as my next project." But anyway, this certainly would be awesome news!

    1. Re:NiGHTS 2, maybe? by chaoaretasty · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but Yuji Naka has also stated he'd never allow a NiGHTS 2, would be interesting to see who wins out.

    2. Re:NiGHTS 2, maybe? by Bricklets · · Score: 1

      Not really "never." I think it was he would never do a sequel to Nights unless he could advance the gameplay considerably.

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    3. Re:NiGHTS 2, maybe? by Bricklets · · Score: 1

      Nights is one of my three favorite video games ever. Though I would highly doubt that the announcement revolves around a sequel to Nights, that would be very sweet nonetheless.

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      Little Bricklets
    4. Re:NiGHTS 2, maybe? by Bricklets · · Score: 1

      Oh, and why did you capitalize it as "NiGHTS"?

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      Little Bricklets
    5. Re:NiGHTS 2, maybe? by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      It is usually capitalized like that. For example, check THIS and THIS articles.

    6. Re:NiGHTS 2, maybe? by Bricklets · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I remember visiting a Toys R Us a few months before Nights was released. There was a huge poster on the front window declaring a price drop for the Saturn and right below it in smaller print, "Sega Nights coming soon." I'm almost certain that was how "NiGHTS" was capitalized. It was the first time I had heard of it and remember walking away hoping that "Sega Nights" wasn't a new console they were going to release (Saturn had come out fairly soon after 32X).

      Oh, and there are several fonts who represent lowercase letters by using uppercase letters on a smaller scale. That sort of looks like what Nights did, so I suppose I will continue that spelling. But thanks for the info and links. Very interesting. Never noticed that before.

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  15. Maybe Skies of Arcadia 2? by GaimeGuy · · Score: 1

    Hey, I can hope,can't I? >_>

  16. Propeller Arena? by ChibiOne · · Score: 1

    What about Propeller Arena, the game for DC that never saw the light of day because of 9/11 (it features arcade-style air combat) ??

    1. Re:Propeller Arena? by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      Not very likely... but it'd be awesome.

  17. Explosive Announcement...? by e-102 · · Score: 1

    Are they going to develop another gaming console? Dreamcast 2 anyone? We all know how well the original Dreamcast helped them financially.

    1. Re:Explosive Announcement...? by lamery · · Score: 0

      200 comments in and this is the best you can come up with. nice work.

    2. Re:Explosive Announcement...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about Open Sourcing the Dreamcast!