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Knoppix v3.4 Hits The Mirrors
zxflash writes "SolidZ.com reports the latest update to KNOPPIX; the popular Linux based OS has just been released. Version 3.4 includes the version 2.6.5 Linux Kernel and improved hardware detection. It can be downloaded from one of the mirrors listed on the KNOPPIX homepage..." rduke15 adds "Koffice has been dropped for space reasons, as well as LaTex.
From the forum: 'Download using bittorrent tracker at http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de:6969/. Remember: Leave your bittorrent client running after the download is finished!' And this is the complete list of included packages."
As usual I've finished downloading Knoppix 3.3 just last night..
Oh well..
It's easy to create Word documents in Linux.
I meta-mod all positive moderation Unfair, because it's abuse of the system.
Anyone see a list of changes? I'm particularly interested to know if they've integrated the NTFS read/write libraries.
:-D
Dropping KOffice just makes sense. Why add all that extra space when 80% of the user base wants OpenOffice? Although it would be interesting to build a cross platform program (in Java perhaps?) that would allow you to custom-create these disks. Give me a version that will build a FreeBSD/KDE3/OpenOffice/Java CD to my specifications and I'll be in heaven.
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Despite a few limitations such as no word count (if it's hidden away there, please tell me!), I find Koffice the cleanest the most useable office suite available for linux.
Abiword comes a close second, but all versions I tried don't highlight selected text! This makes editing a frustrating guessing game.
Openoffice is too sluggish on my duron 1.3ghz, I'll give them a few more versions to clean it up before I try it again.
I hand out knoppix cds to many friends, can anyone shed light on why kOffice is no longer indluded?
If you're gonna check out Knoppix then have a look at KnoppiXMAME too.
I haven't used this new version yet, but past the words "improved hardware detection" are music to my ears. It wasn't awful in previous versions, but there certainly was room for improvement. Otherwise Knoppix has been my choice of distros (mostly because it was my first) since I switched to Linux a while back.
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Thank you.
Will there ever be a DVD distro of Knoppix or some similar Linux that can be downloaded & burned? With all the extra space available on a DVD, there'd be room to put some really awesome apps on there...sort of a complete Linux machine in a can. And when you consider people are bittorrenting entire seasons of TV shows over on Suprnova and Animesuki, it doesn't seem like size would be that much of a problem...
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I have not used Linux in about 9 months. Why? Games.
I gave up Windows completely a year ago (except TurboTax on my wife's laptop.) Guess what? I smoke a hell of a lot less pot and spend at lot less time on the computer overall. Why? Same reason. Games.
KDE 3.2.2
OpenOffice.Org 1.1.1
Gimp 2.0
Im burning right now... but I just wished they wouldn't have removed KOffice :(
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And for those looking for a custom version of Knoppix with a few different tools built in check out this site:
http://www.knoppix-std.org/
From the site:
STD focuses on information security and network management tools. It is meant to be used by both the novice looking to learn more about information security and the security professional looking for another swiss army knife for their tool kit.
Why not submit your resume in PDF format? It'll be smaller, uneditable, and almost everyone has a PDF viewer of some kind. Note: These are all from my own personal experience.
Have some manners :P
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.
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hey, i mirrored them too! here they are:
Knoppix 3.4 Deutsch
Knoppix 3.4 English
Where's my +5 informative?
What an unfortunate choice of name. Then again I'm sure that a large number of the users will never have to worry about conventional STDs :P
They're still using a KDE 3.2.x build, so you should be OK there. OpenOffice files haven't changed in a long time, nor has Mozilla's config stuff. The only place you could get screwed over is if you've got a bunch of KOffice files. Can't think of much else that could possibly be a problem. I'd say give it a go and see if it works. :-)
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Guess I'll just have to wait. Tried every server across the globe and saw no version 3.4
Oh well.
Who is this that even the wind and the waves obey Him? Surely this computer must submit also!
Here's a tip: next year try TurboTax online. I can tell you it works fantastically, I've been using it for a few years now.
I translated them, then mirrored them.
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Knoppix v3.4 Hits The Mirrors
;-)
I guess that's seven years of bad luck for Knoppix...
You ran linux for 5 years, gave it up b/c 1) you needed to play games (what did you do for the previous 5 years?) and 2) you couldn't get abiword/open office to save a .doc file (File => Save As... not so hard).
Yet being a hardened Linux veteran, Knoppix, which comes with the same X server and abiword/open office as every other distro has switched you back?
Ok, I'm calling shennigans. When you said "I had used linux" did you really mean "I had linux installed on a secondary partion and booted into it once a year when I wanted to be 1337"?
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:laughs: Good lord, you're retarded. I know you have to be trolling to post "Windows ME > Linux" stuff, but on the off chance that you're just dumb, I gotta post a response. Where on the CD-ROM (READ ONLY) did you expect Knoppix to save it?
"captive" is mentioned in the package list, so it seems they included it.
These are from the comments on the torrent page for KNOPPIX
/dev/modem setup tool supporting serial, USB, bluetooth and irda devices
* V3.4-2004-05-03 (experimental)
- switched from syslinux to isolinux (no emulation) boot method
- Kernel 2.4.26 (default) and Kernel 2.6.5 (as boot option) with ACPI enabled (use knoppix acpi=off in case of problems, knoppix26 to try Kernel 2.6)
- New wireless drivers for: ipw2100 ("Centrino"(TM)), madwifi, hostap
- captive-ntfs installer
- live-installer by Fabian Franz
- KDE 3.2.2
- kdevelop3
- OpenOffice 1.1.1 (german and english)
- gimp 2.0
- Had to remove the entire latex system (101MB) because of space reasons
- Removed KOffice for the same reason
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- gprs connection tool
- lots of improvements in the hardware detection and new boot options, please check knoppix-cheatcodes.txt.
Its not what it is, its something else.
Unfortunately, guess what - recruiters (that I've dealt with) only want msword documents . There are two reasons for this:
Every time I've submitted it in pdf format they've asked for it in word. You can't win. :(
Man watching 6 MSCE's around a sun box, looks alot like the opening scene's of 2001:space odyssey...
\hbox to 2 in{\it I hope Plain Tex is at least included}
I make my face look like this and concerned words come out.
Hmm... I'm downloading it at about a third of the speed (15kB) that I'm uploading (45-50kB). My status is still 'blue' -- can't find a complete copy. Oh well I'm only pulling it on bittorrent to share it for others and chew some of Time Warner's bandwidth. Did it with Fedora and Slackware too -- download a complete copy share it until the next big thing comes along. Eats up the bandwidth of a monolithic corporation that I hate and gives something back to the community at the same time.
Everybody wins! Plus I get to see neat stats for my internet connection in nisca ;)
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We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
He's already check out most of the stuff on the disk as redistributable. It's been out for over a year now. Several companies have made exceptions so he can put the stuff on the disk and have it be redistributable. Note, Knoppix isn't about being "pure" OSS. It's meant to work and show off how good Linux can be... not turn everything on the disk into OSS. Klaus has banged on a lot of doors to get cool stuff put on the disk. Hint: Tell your favorite packages [flash, Nvidia drivers, etc] to get on board!!!!
It's not a political statement at all. I could care less about the fact that DOC is an MS format. If I was trying to make a statement, I'd send it out in SXW format and tell them that if they can't view it, then they need to get the appropriate viewer. It's merely one way of completely insuring that my resume will look a certain way, no matter how somebody chooses to view it. I've sent my resume out in PDF format and I have not received a single complaint.
Can someone supply the command line for grabbing the iso? Include flags if used/recommended?
Is there an X version of bittorrent on Knoppix 3.3?
Will running bittorrent open up any security holes? I'm behind a nat device
Will bittorrent work behind the nat device?
Thanks from all of us newbies!
Courtesy.
Every P2P application since napster has started in the Windows system tray in order to increase the amount of stuff available at once. BT's design means that it can't work quite the same way - stuff is only shared while your downloading the thing, and rather than share a pool of files, you share individual files while your connected to a tracker.
It's not unusual (though thankfully not too usual) to be downloading via BT and all your seeders vanish or no current seeder has all parts of the file your after. Staying connected for an extra 5-10 minutes is a simple way to increase traffic, and is generally considered polite.
Have they changed/improved the HDD installer in Knoppix? I wanted to install a debian setup from Knoppix, but in 3.3, it tries to dump the whole system into one partition, and I did not have the space for that so I ended up using the Debian Sarge installer instead... Have they made the install process more flexible since then?
KNOPPIX PPC (unofficial)
Now that's a distro that you shouldn't let your children use!
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Create a WAP site
> all your seeders vanish or no current seeder has all parts of the file your after.
Exactly! Leave those BT clients running as long as you can. Most (>90%?) BT downloads fail because people disconnect after downloading the file. When they all do, all downloads for the file fail for all downloaders. It's the reason BT will never be mainstream. It's just too frustrating.
You have to throttle.
If you don't set a max upload limit, bittorrent will suck every bit of upload bandwidth available, and you will not be able to do anything else (including downloading that same bittorrent). Try setting your max to 35kbps, or something about 5kbps below what it's showing your max is now.
That will give your connection some breathing room to actually get a decent download speed.
It'd be nice if there was a Knoppix/Morphix variant with Mono. I know, I know, Mono is evil or something, but it could expand number of crossover developers who code .NET at work and want to get started with Linux in their spare time. If you're already reading and writing .DOC's, it seems like a logical step...
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When I first grabbed the torrent (English ver), there were a few seeds online and a couple hundred leechers. I got about 50 k/s to start out.
About an hour later, there were over 120 seeds and thousands of leechers. I was getting over 250 k/s.
How many other distribution methods can you say actually get FASTER when the bulk of the slashbots arrive on the scene? Bittorrent, my friends, is a beautiful thing.
Sure, when there aren't many folks on a torrent, its not that fast. And if there aren't any seeders you can't get the whole thing. But when a crowd this size comes into play, Bittorrent just makes sense.
I'm really surprised to see as many complaints as I saw in this thread. Especially given that bt is free, and that the speed has ramped up to rediculous proportions.
I managed to download a 696.2 MB file, which was posted on the front page of Slashdot, in 1h 25m. To me, thats absolutely stunning.
Go Bittorrent! And, if I may say so, thank you slashbots! When else can you say "thank you" for people slashdotting something? (Well, unless its a spammers IP...)
// harborpirate
// Slashbots off the starboard bow!
Hmm...I actually use LaTeX far more than I use a regular word processor. That's not good.
I understand why the Knoppix guys did it tho...space on live CDs is a pretty big problem, and I suppose they had no choice if they wanted to upgrade KDE, OpenOffice.org, GIMP, etc.
It irks me, but I can live with it. And it's not like Knoppix is my main distro anyway--I mostly just play around with it and use it as an advocacy tool.
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Sigh. I guess it's about time for me to update the Knoppix data rescue guide on how to use knoppix to rescue data off dying windows machines.
here's what i dont really understand...
since this is a live CD, why would they take out koffice and latex while leaving development libraries in? sure developers need these things, but they would be compiling their large projects running their OS entirely off a liveCD. this is true too for hdd install - it includes a lot of junk that makes everything slow. i love knoppix and it's excellent hardware, but maybe this is one of the improvements it can make?
also, it would be great if the hdd installation tool would allow installing over seperate partitions, except everything under one....
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For LiveCD's, I would love to have KOffice. It's good-looking, functional and fast. I understand the political reasons (MSOffice user migration), but would love to see a version with KOffice, LaTeX and possibly other stuff.
Ideally, someone would set up a server where one can pick and drop whatever modules needed and drop the rest (I don't use GIMP, for one), within the space limitations of your standard ISO. Download ISO, burn, and you have your very own Linux boot CD with the best of both worlds:
LiveCD
Installed
Heck, I'd even pay to have such a CD beside my SuSE install.
I'm in a Unix state of mind.
I smoke a hell of a lot less pot and spend at lot less time on the computer overall
I'm sorry to hear that, would you like me to send you a Windows CD so you can carry on as before?
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one glitch when detecting SCSIs on my comp. got a seg fault during the detection... setting noscsi in lilo resolved this problem.
one thing i noticed is missing is the hard drive hdd install script/program that used to be there in all the older versions.
the c't preview version didnt have it either and google shows this link for a script for that version http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8171
anyone had any luck installing the new 3.4 on their comps?
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kyhwana is right - you need to throttle your BT upload speed so that there's room for the acknowledgement packets you are sending to people you are downloading from. On my ADSL connection I have 1.5Mbps down and 256kbps up, so my uplink is theoretically able to handle 256/8 = 32 kbytes/sec, ignoring protocol overhead. I am using the wondershaper script on my firewall, so that gets eroded to 220kbps or about 27 kbytes/sec max throughput.
:-).
On a fast torrent I hit my max download speed (120 to 140 kbytes/sec) which uses about 6-8 kbytes/sec of my upload bandwidth for ACKs. So I can run up to 19 kbytes/sec uploading before I see congestion and slowdowns. I usually throttle it back to 15 kbytes/sec to maximize my downloading while allowing me to do other things online while BT is active. BT is set to allow a 10:1 ratio for your download speeds from other leechers. So, if you are uploading at 15 kbytes/sec, you should be able to download at 150 kbytes/sec. If you are downloading from a seed, then the ratio doesn't matter
If I am only seeding, I can just let BT use the maximum uplink speed of my connection, since there isn't anything else downloading. The wondershaper script on my firewall is set up to give low priority to BT packets. Activity on my other machines will get placed at the front of the queue, if there is a queue. The price I pay for low latency for ssh, web browsing, email, and gmaing is the loss of about 15% of my max bandwidth. It's a worthwhile tradeoff.
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While I tend to use LaTeX for everything, I understand that after all, Knoppix is a distro that enables loads of new users to try Linux for the first time and so on. They are not going to use LaTeX. Otoh, LaTeX (and a flurry of other scientific applications) would benefit from their own liveCD. And you know what? It exists!!!! It's called Quantian, and hopefully, a new version (based on Knoppix 3.4) will be out soon. Loads of math/engineering programs, TeX, LyX, Texmacs, scipy... Unfortunately, this project is not as visible as Knoppix (it's a derivative, after all).
Not so any more. I switched my custom Knoppix ISO over to Morphix. There is a nice little perl script that can help you make a minimodule. Download a main module, and whichever minimodules you like, and burn them to a CD. It really has gotten much easier. Easier than building a Knoppix distro (which wasn't too hard either).
Sure, Morphix needs some improvements, but that is happening. Not only that, but the minimod generator builds a compressed filesystem. For instance - if you want a full, working Quake MegaTF server for Linux, you could download the Morphix mod for that, burn it to a CD with the LightGUI mainmod, and have a bootable Quake Server. OR you could just download the minimod file, uncompress it, and just have everything you need for a local Quake server.
Check out morphix.org for all the details.
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This is great... Knoppix with 2.6.
I just used Knoppix the other day for the first time to save my FC2 test install (accidently removed wrong package). Thanks guys.
I can't wait till they have full boot-from-CDROM support for coLinux... Then I can always have a 2.6 kernel running on practically any machine I use.
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Slashdotters appear to be a bunch of leaches unwilling to leave their sessions open for others to download with.
X _V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso.torrent
Fortunately, for those of us who weren't reading slashdot last night, suprnova.org has a far better torrent available (which still works the morning after):
http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/1681/KNOPPI
After getting 0kB/s via the torrent provided to slashdot, I was gratified to be getting 79kB/s via the suprnova.org torrent.
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on http://www.tlm-project.org http://www.tlm-project.org/torrents/knoppix/3.4/KN OPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso.torrent
-WaZ-
Here are the links if you want to download via other p2p networks like edonkey,gnutella,kazaa.
I D5DWU3BX463I L3&dn=KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso
i so|729880 576|93356e4d37bf7301cf800fbabcb3e3fc|
Gnutella
magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:HSKNSU6D57XW7A6Y7
Edonkey and Overnet
ed2k://|file|KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.
Kazaa / Grokster / IMesh
sig2dat://|File: KNOPPIX_V3.4-2004-05-04-EN.iso|Length: 729880576 Bytes, 712774KB|UUHash: =pXEQz/qtyruR10lkr1NSPH+Icpc=|