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AMD Announces New Low-End Processor Line
beaverbrother points out these articles at CoolTechZone
and PC Magazine, writing "AMD (Advanced Micro Devices) is slated to launch a new Sempron line of processors this summer, to compete with Intel's Celeron line. The processors are designed to perform basic tasks, such as word processing, and more advanced tasks, like playing video, with ease."
Will they overhead and melt down like the Celeron processors? Without this feature I doubt they will be able to effectively compete with the Celeron.
Things you think are in the Constitution, but are not.
or are they just filling in a perceived niche? id buy these for sure if they are really cheaper than older durons are (really cheap)...
So it's like a Duron, but with an even sillier name?
So, the marketing strategy is that the new chip name sounds so similar that people will get confused and buy a Sempron when they meant to buy a Celeron?
Well, at least it sounds less like vegetable.
Big numbers on box with little actual performance, for people who want big numbers but don't really need a powerful computer(or have a clue, of course, if you're without a clue you don't really need a powerful computer so..)...
if it's a celeron competitor that is..
hopefully it'll be at least very affordable..
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Celeron, Duron, and now Sempron Am I missing something?
I feel sure this will immediately be spelt "sempr0n".
Hm.Sempr0n.
Sounds like something having to do with Marine porn.
I mean Sempron? Opteron, Xeon, maybe I would by a new processor when they come out with the Orgasmatron!
*narf!*
What they're getting at is that its designed for basic functionality like your word-process and your basic video decoding.
What this processor is probably not aimed at is high end video encoding/transcoding - 3D (openGL or DirectX) gaming or high-load server processing.
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That as much as we like to rip on 'choked' CPU's, Joe 6Pack doesn't NEED 1/2 the processing power that most of US use in our routers!
Jesus Christ, my router/firewall alone is a 333PII, which, for the average luser is WAY more than enough.
That said, I'm all for a new low-end CPU from AMD, let's me keep my overhead low and profits high. Good stuff, have some.
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The article says it's a 32-bit replacemnent for Duron to compete with Intel's Celeron at around 2.8GHz.
So why don't they just lower Athlon's price enough to compete with Celeron? Or is this Sempron simply a rebranded Athlon, while Duron is a crippled Ahtlon?
At first I thought AMD is introducing a dumped down 64-bit Athlon, that might be something, as the price of Athlon64 is still too expensive.
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The Athlon XP line is actually very competitively priced against the celeron. For example the XP2500+ is $125.00 Canadian compared to the Celeron 2.6Ghz which is $120.00 Canadian. The only difference between the XP and the Celeron is that the XP is WAY faster in many areas (e.g. gaming). So is this new budget line going to decrease performance in order to "compete" with the celeron?
From PC Magazine's article
Yes !! Finally, they've created a processor optimized to downloading music. With Sempron, you can download MP3s 10x faster than using Celeron!
Intel, eat my pants.
Now I remember why I cancelled my subscription to PC Magazine years ago....
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Why did they change the name? People just getting sick of duron? Celeron never changed its name for as long as its been around.
I purchased a boxed XP 2500 w/ motherboard from Fry's this weekend for $69.00. The Athlons are already a better deal than the Celerons.
And for the energy and utility markets, they're making a new line of processors called the Enron. But I hear their beta version had problems with the floating-point unit... it kept inflating numbers by 20% to 50%.
They wanted to emphasize that this was "more" than just a celeron, and of course, they had to keep the -on suffix.
Introducing the AMD Moron....
These will probably work fine in thin clients connected to a server running a stable, multitasking, multi-user OS. Actually, they may even be overkill for that.
Imagine a tiny motherboard using one of these with a basic amount of soldered-in RAM, on-board video and NIC, and an on-board boot flash containing LTSP. Voila, a compact, cheap license-free, diskless, plug-and-play, workstation! How's that for putting Linux on the desktop?
An open hardware project, anyone?
The first thing the name "Sempron" reminded of was the fact that Semper is a Swedish brand of baby formula.
Maybe I should RTFA...
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Argh, stop making lower processors!!! Make new higher ones. I don't want to be able to afford a new cpu. I want to dream about new fast ones that cost more than I have. :P
AMD Spermon?
AMD Sempr0n?
I'd like to applaud the marketing people at AMD for showing that even though you are severely retarded, you can still come up with a name for a a discount CPU.
And cheers to AMD for having such enlightened hiring practices! Most companies reserve the mentally deficient for IT jobs.
Actually, I believe that the Duron name refers to the lower-end 32-bit chips, whereas Semperon will be lower-end 64-bit chips.
Feel free to correct me, though.
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Whereas by misreading the name of the processor, you're just begging for abuse...
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If you take online multiplayer games as an example the GPU is probably only 50% of the equation.
All the prettiness is handled by the GPU but the CPU is still responsible for generating the OpenGL/DX stream and handling player (and other player) location, physics etc. A good example of this is UT2004 Onslaught which requires as much CPU as GPU power.
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Via already makes a line of small integrated motherboards with most of those requirements, called EPIA. They use their own Eden processor. It's pretty gutless, but it would make a fine file server or I/O device.
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Low end processors, old processors, crap processors ... the problem is that people still have full-blown computers on their desks. Maybe if you're Joe Seven-Pak (you know, Joe Six-Pak's poweruser cousin) and you edit your home videos on your PC, it makes sense to have the latest and greatest. But I find it completely stupid -- actually, I find it downright obscene -- that businesses with bloody acres full of cubicle dwellers, have not embraced network computing solutions like LTSP or even Citrix. If it weren't for the damned status quo being continously hammered into people's minds by Intel and Microsoft, maybe people would realize that keeping power off the desktop and centralized behind the glass is the best way to lower the TCO of a multiuser environment.
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Seems to me that AMD is trying to cash in on the buzz surrounding the Centrino marketing push that Intel is making.
I can't say I blame them. It's a good idea. AMD has always been a good "budget" performer. Intel may be king of the hill in raw processing power, but in the price/performance battle it's AMD all the way.
Some might label me as an AMD fanboy because I haven't bought an Intel chip since the P2-300 and because I have sworn off Intel because of the P3's processor ID fiasco. That's fine with me.
Spend more on Intel than I do on AMD and you'll get a 10% performance bonus at the cost of a 25% price premium.
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I still use a 433MHz and a 466Mhz Mendocino Celeron. Not in one box, of course. But the two machines are still in working order. Hell, I have a ThinkPad 600E 400MHz PIIm that is still kicking ass under both Linux and Windows 2K. Don't count the old machines out.
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AMD announces the Simpleton processor line. Designed to be a replacment for the older Moron line, the Simpleton features 4 more letters in its name. The new line is designed to compete with the current Intel Cheaparon line.
The Centrino is any system that uses the following: 1. An Intel Pentium-M processor, which is NOT a Celeron and has NO releation to the Pentium 4. The new "Dothan" Pentium-M, overclocked to 2.4Ghz in a recent review competed with the Athlon 64 3400+ in many tests and defeated the 3.4Ghz P4EE in SuperPi. This chip may be where Intel goes next, as it uses only 21 watts yet is faster than the Prescott and can clock high with hardly any cooling. 2. An Intel 850 motherboard (I'm pretty sure about this, can't guarantee it though). 3. And that board has to have integrated wireless. If the notebook has the above three, its a Centrino. Just a fancy name for a Pentium-M high-battery-life machine with wireless.
The processors are designed to perform basic tasks, such as word processing...
That's officially the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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the first thing i saw in the name was Sem pron , so is it optomized for jpeg, and movie decoding or something?
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...the "Pentium M" processor in Centrino is not a Celeron or any other Pentium 4 Willamette or Northwood or Prescott core derivative.
It was designed from the ground up to perform well at lower clock speeds to lower power consumption and increase battery life.
When I first heard about Sempron, I immediately thought it was a new brand of tampons.
A CPU called a Sempron? No wonder we're running out of trademark namespace!
You do realize that the sempron will be a regular athlon64 with features disabled? I.E. some of the L2 cache or the "64-bitness".
on a 533 MHz celeron and 128MB of RAM, and a laptop hard drive.
The scary thing is, it's the one of the most responsive windows machine I have.
Just goes to show you: Server 2003, it's XP, except it doesn't suck!
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Now for the bad news:
You don't know what the FUCK are you talking about.
The Sempron is going to be 100% like the Duron. Is the Duron in ANY way more suited then any other processor for thin client computing? AMD's new server line of Opterons with lower voltage cores might be a starting point. The Pentium-M might be a starting point. The Sempron is NOT a starting point.
Oh wait, AMD already sells an embedded x86-compatible processor Am5x86! And, WHAT'S THIS?!?! It even sells a miniature integrated platform, called Elan.
Well tie me up and violate me with a spoon. Do you enjoy being such a karma whore or are you just that ignorant?
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Take a look at this article
Basically a P3, with more cache and some of the features of a P4 (improved branch sheduler) and none of the crud (long pipelines).
meh
Maybe it's just me
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It's hard to pump Sempron.
I pump my sempron every day! Now I get to put my sempron in my computer. My wife's gonna get jealous at last. :(
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Playing games that don't exist is not the only problem for a budget system. In addition to these processors being slated as "budget", the manufacturers will add junk to either use outdated, or unreliable, or undated and unreliable for video (I still remember the awe when I saw brand new top of the line P4's with that cheap stuff). Put that together with a standard 48x cdrw and you have a system that is totally void of anything worthwhile.
This is not to diss AMD, I'm sure the Sempron will kill the celeron, and likely compete with the p4 on an even clock speed, but the big manufacturers will treat it like a Cyrix (They see: P4, Athlon, Celeron, then Sempron). I cannot feel strongly enough about my friends who go out and buy a "cheap" celeron for $500. Just imagine all the people who would sell them their 3 year old gaming system, a system to totally blow away the modern "Screaming fast" PC.
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