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Mozilla 1.7 Released
kashif-khan writes "Right at the verge of Firefox 0.9 and Thunderbird 0.7 being released comes the official release of Mozilla 1.7. Updates include smaller size, increased speed and faster start up times. Be sure to read the release notes for the complete list of features and download it from mozilla.org."
Thunderbird isn't a browser, it's an email client. And a danm good one at that. I regularly switch l users to Thunderbird from Outlook, and they never want to go back.
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The biggest reason to switch for me is that the web development tools for IE suck compared to mozilla/firefox. DOM inspector, JS debugger, etc. all are awesome tools compared to IE.
The fact that IE lets websites install software on your computer doesn't exactly make my day either. I really hate that.
I find I need both Firefox and Thunderbird. It might be because one is a browser and the other is an e-mail client, but I haven't figured out the trick to make either accomplish both tasks.
Firefox is a browser, Thunderbird is an email client. The suite is still good if you need a web page editor or if you like everything in one package. Personally, I use IE only when I have to. I use Firefox the rest of the time, I occasionally startup the suite for page editing (usually I just use vim), and I always use Thunderbird for mail.
Firefox == Web Browser
Thunderbird == Email Client
Mozilla == Web Browser and Email Client in one Application.
And the biggest reason to switch? Well, there are several main ones - but saftey from all the spyware, malware, etc that exploits IE is the biggest one for me. That and pop-up blocking and Tabbed browsing.
The revolution will not be televised. It won't be on a friggin blog either
Firefox is the browser. Thunderbird is the e-mail client. Mozilla is the suite containing these two products, a new version of which has been released because the two components above have been updated. Hope this helps!
I see no updates on Bugzilla for any of the trees -- for the life of pete, that "intermittent" copy paste bug is awful. Every now and then copy/paste funtionality will just disappear. You can't copy anything.
I can stand misrendered pages, I can stand missing URL's, I can stand a memory leak that might force me to restart the system every now and then -- but yee gods, if you mysteriously take my copy/paste away from me at inopportune moments.. madness! URL's hand typed! Monkeys flying out you know what comes next!
I love the 'zillas to death and I am typing this on Firefox now. I'm not saying the bug forces me to abandon it.. it's just.. so... painful! Help me obi-developers, you're my only hope!
(can I get a witness? holla!)
I only had that problem when I applied the UI tweak that forces the browser to redraw more often than it's defaulted to.
Forgot which one it is though since I lost all that to a reformat.
"There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge." - Bertrand Russell.
This is a real issue with Mozilla and FireFox (based on Mozilla obviously), thus the parent has a legitimate concern as opposed to being a troll.
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Users of Fedora Core 2 may experience unusually long delays in resolving hostnames. This results from the fact that IPv6 is enabled by default in Fedora Core 2. If you do not need IPv6 support (which is most likely the case), then it is advised that you disable it in the kernel. To do this run the following command as root: echo "alias net-pf-10 off" >> /etc/modprobe.conf You will need to reboot to have this take effect (or simply unload the ipv6 kernel module).
An FYI if anyone is having trouble on Fedora.
Has the acroread bug been fixed, or is that just a Gentoo thing? Anyone know?
I'm currently stuck in that I'm still finding FireFox too buggy for everday use (broken -remote, crashing with some plugins, etc.), however I often find myself using it because GTK2 and XFT in the default Linux build is outweighing the ugliness of GTK1 and the non-XFT fonts in the latest Mozilla build. Will there ever be an official build of Mozilla 1.7+ with GTK2 and XFT? I've searched Google, and there were a few people building it regularly, but they seem to have discontinued doing so.
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Fairly neat: it seems that Mozilla has setup an official torrent tracker for this release.
Woah woah woah...
You're right about the first part, but on the second part-- Mozilla is a separate application suite that contains both a Browser and a Mail Client, but they are not Firefox/Thunderbird, they are completely different (mostly). So the updates to Firefox/Thunderbird have little to do with this.
Details, details...
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I have had similar problems. Most web designers design their web pages with IE in mind. My online banking doesn't render correctly in Mozilla 1.6 or Firefox. It is a shame. I have contacted this bank, which will remain unnamed, and they said, "Our online banking system is best supported by Internet Explorer."
As far as Slashdot goes, I do sometimes have problems rendering the page, especially the user login.
These small problems mean nothing in the big picture. I love Mozilla.
The parent is not a troll.
Personally, I go with Mozilla, but then again, I like having all that extra functionality in one place.
GPL made simple: What was my stuff is now our stuff. If you improve our stuff, please keep it our stuff.
Yes, its a real problem.
7% faster at startup, is 8% faster to open a window, has 9% faster page loading, and is 5% smaller
When Slashdot fucks up:
1) Click Back Button
2) Click Forward Button
Always renders correctly after clicking the forward button.
For those interested in tracking this bug, it is Bug 217527 in Bugzilla (copy link and paste into another window ^_^). I have seen this problem many times; usually one or two refreshes will fix the problem. Note that the status on the bug says "Fixed." However the fix was pulled back out due to a problem with the patch.
Just do a CTRL-mousewheel (or whatever you have your font size change bound to).
That will force a re-render and clean things up.
The bugzilla number is 217527 (the Mozilla team do not want direct links from Slashdot to Bugzilla - if you cannot figure out how to get from here to there without a link you probably shouldn't be going there anyway.)
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I don't have any Slashdot Cool Points, so I'll take some of yours and try to help you out. ;-)
In a nutshell, Mozilla started off as the open-sourced version of Netscape 6, which turned into the Mozilla suite, and included the browser, and an e-mail client and some other things and even more things. Mozilla was big, slow, and clunky by many people's views, but it had a great rendering engine called "Gecko," and some other cool stuff. So some people decided to take the rendering engine and other cool stuff, and make a browser that was smaller, lighter, faster, and was really good at one task -- web browsing. They called it Pheonix, then Firebird, then Firefox (legal issues...). At the same time (well, a little later, after people saw how cool it was) some people decided to make an e-mail client on the same idea -- they called it Thunderbird (No legal issues).
So, Firefox and Thunderbird are very similar on the inside, but with obvious differences. Mozilla is pretty different, as it's a direct derivative (albeit with a full rewrite) of the Netscape application. The Mozilla suite is also significantly slower (but hopefully better with this release) than Firefox and Thunderbird, and has a bigger memory footprint.
Read this for a more thourough explanation of Firefox's goals, and also check out the Wikipedia article.
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I have had this problem as well. It seems to be a bug in the engine, because increasing and then decreasing the text size fixes the problem. Its a pretty simple work around, but I hope they fix the bug for 1.0
Usually if you click on the link a second time, you can get the window to pop up. If it still doesn't work, just exempt that url or site from the pop-up blocker.
It's not as pretty, but it's ten times more functional. Just load up "about:config" from the Location bar in Firefox. This will give you access to every tunable feature that exists in the program, including and far exceeding those which are exposed in Mozilla's preferences.
Correction:
I meant firefox 0.9!
Good lord. Mods, have you missed his joke or forgotten history?
The parent post is making a reference to the history of Mozilla and Netscape. Netscape got bought by AOL, who fired a bunch of Netscape developers, and then the Moz got an injection of development effort as former Netscape developers helped out on Moz.
It's not such a bad joke. I think it's funny and insightful -- he's pointing out the irony of what AOL did and is doing (now that AOL is using Moz code to help with Netscape).
If you don't know the history and thus didn't get the joke, please don't assume that someone is "off topic" or "inflammatory." He may just be too subtle for you and you could learn something from him.
Check the posting history. He's a troll.
This is the combination of a bug in Gecko and Slashdot's horrible, invalid HTML output.
To quote a previous post of mine:
Actually, I "think" I have it narrowed now to at least why it is happening.
I have Firefox on three computers, two with adblock blocking http://ads.osdn.com/* and it happens all the time on those two. On the one computer I don't block the ads on I have never had the issue.
Just my two cents on a possible cause.
Check this extension for Firefox out. It gives the tabs in Firefox more options and features that you could poke a stick at. And also has just very recently been updated to work with 0.9 properly.
*shrug*
Evolution is the only open-source e-mail client I've seen that can open and respond to Outlook invitations perfectly. It's been like that since version 1.0, which was bundled with Red Hat 7.3.
Mozilla plans to add Outlook invitation support as part of the integration step. I don't know if any of the Evolution invitation-accepting code can be converted over, or whether that constitutes a violation of all 48 licenses that Open Source considers valid, but it is possible to accept Outlook invites using open-source software.
For more information, click here.
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You'll also have to remove the spaces slashcode puts in there.
Making the moon less necessary since 1998.
In fact, Camino (another Mozilla program) was recently updated as a result of the Mozilla 1.7 updates to the Gecko rendering engine. (I'm not entirely sure if this holds true for Firefox/Thunderbird.)
"Try disconnecting your router and connecting your computer straight to your uplink." on his forum.
If that works, here is the explanation as to why: "Some routers have been implicated in consistently corrupting data inside TCP packets, either when running in game mode or simply due to lousy firmware coding. They'll replace any instance of the external IP to the internal one for incoming data, and vice-versa for outgoing."
The current Mozilla suite probably contains little to none of the original Netscape Communicator 5.0 source code which Netscape released. The original Mozilla (Netscape 5.0) was trashbinned and they started over (after wasting quite a bit of time on 5.0).
Netscape 6 (horrible) was based off a *near* 1.0 Mozilla codebase IIRC. Netscape 6+ are derivatives of Mozilla not the other way around.
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if the answer isn't violence, neither is your silence / freedom of expression doesn't make it alright
Last I checked, about:config works just fine in the standard Mozilla suite as well. For that matter, it works in Epiphany. I'm pretty sure its just part of Gecko.
I made 2 girls change to firefox just by showing them the tabbed browsing and by telling them "... it's much better, yo!". Checked on them a few weeks later and they were still using it. That's all they wanted... a hassle-free, simple to use, understandable, non-deceiving internet program.
Just my humble opinion.
Yes, there were lots of little changes.
I hate the way IE decides to crop printed pages so that you only get _most_ of each line of text.
Mozilla's "resize to fit" print feature is absolutely fantastic. It's a killer feature which doesn't get the attention it deserves.
Type about:config in the address bar. Search for the pref browser.urlbar.autoFill and set it to true. If it doesn't exist, right click > New > Boolean and enter browser.urlbar.autoFill and true.
mozilla will just use your old profile.
you could back it up (and if you use firefox you probably should, since on occasion it has been known to wipe out profiles while upgrading).
if you're moving from mozilla to firefox0.9 (or newer, i suppose), it can (and may default to...) import your mozilla profile.
there are sites that describe how to backup mozilla profiles, http://gemal.dk/mozilla probably has an explanation somewhere.
I was using 1.7 RC3 and I just upgraded to the final release an hour ago. I can tell you that the first thing I noticed was an unbelievable speed increase. From initially double clicking the Mozilla icon it takes literally less than 2 or 3 seconds to start up. I'm guessing this is because all the debug options were removed for the final release.
mozilla tabs have one very stupid problem. if i click a new tab with middle mouse, and then start to fill up some form on the page i still am (another is loading in another tab) focus is suddenly moved to another form on another tab (when the other page has finished loading) and all the text i am writing goes there, i don't like at all.
class he-man extends man!