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Unix To Beef Up Longhorn
An anonymous reader writes "VNUnet has a story about Longhorn having the ability to run unix or linux code via SFU." Microsoft's site has a lot more information about SFU itself. Regardless of ideological bent, it's an interesting piece o' technology.
Interesting. No, wait...that other thing. Tedious.
Ohwait...
Anybody else first read that as STFU? Seems oddly appropriate somehow.
Woohoo! Now I can write UNIX code to run on Windows! Then in twenty years or whenever Longhorn is released, they can change the standard, and I'll get to choose between compatibility with my UNIX code and UNIX, or Windows! This is great!
longhorn:~# cd / er, no, I mean, cd \ ... I mean ... ohsodit
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Finally, I can run my linux apps in a secure enviorment.
This Shut the Fuck Up technology sounds interesting. Can I use it on an airplane or bus when people around me too loud?
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"SFU is not shipped with Windows because SFU currently contains open-source software, such as the GNU C compiler, which cannot be distributed with commercial software."
cue sound of one hand slapping forehead...
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Any chance that Service Pack 1 for Longhorn (due to be released in early 2009) combines Microsoft's powerful FUD(tm) with this SFU into SFUD(tm)?
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
stuff f**king up?
oh, service for unix...
Jackpot!
I hear there's rumors on the Slashdots
... they must have violated SCO's IP rights.
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All the simplicity of Unix.
All the stability of Windows.
Didn't somebody at Microsoft think to reverse things? They'd be furthur ahead to try to fix what they have before adding what everybody else has.
its even better, the stability of Windows with the ease of Unix! finally i won't have to worry about my uptime anymore! no more hesitation about installing new hardware but killing my uptime.
In 4 years (or whenever, it is impossible to guess with them), Microsoft will have re-implemented Cygwin.
Keep on innovatin' guys.
Finkployd
With the recent stories of Winex's cedega, and that other little startup who claimed to magically have 100% windows interoperability, it sounds like we're trading software titles like baseball cards.
Linux Community: "I'll give ya grep and less, for Photoshop."
Microsoft: "Uhh...how about you throw in sendmail, and we give you notepad?"
Linux Community: "WHAT?! No way, you give me Outlook, if you want sendmail!"
Microsoft (chuckling, because they know Outlook is a shit deal): "Yeah, man! You got a deal!"
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> SFU is not shipped with Windows because SFU
> currently contains open-source software, such as
> the GNU C compiler, which cannot be distributed
> with commercial software.
Where's that clue-stick of mine? I feel the need to beat someone over the head with it.
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"So, how did you compile KDE on Windows?"
"SFU, noob!"
I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
SFU is not shipped with Windows because SFU currently contains open-source software, such as the GNU C compiler, which cannot be distributed with commercial software.
How does one become VUNet writer? Is there a rigorous screening process involved? Is any knowledge of them computer thingies required?
Finkployd
No, because every single-mouse-button-pushing Flash animator is now an ELITE *NIX USER.
Some "analysists" say that something Microsoft might do sometime in the future might (or might not) hurt Linux deployments.
Some people think SFU is really cool.
Microsoft might upgrade SFU to 64bit sometime in the future.
SFU lets you run *nix apps on Windows.
There, now you don't have to wait for that page to load.
Unix To Beef Up Longhorn
I can't believe I didn't see it at first!
BR Get it? Beef? Longhorn? Eh? Oh, forget it.
Apple went to BSD. Novell is going to Linux. Windows...? It's the next generation. They just won't admit it. My bet's on GNU/HURD. No way they'll follow BSD & Novell
with the price of windows....
Why would I want to run a Unix variant over Windows? That makes about as much sense as putting a Ferrrai engine in an unmodified VM bug.
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"first microsoft gives us bullcrap statistics about how "windows outpeforms linux" and now this? does anyone else find it comical?"
No. This smells more of "make it easier to migrate if you're using *Nix" than "we'll work faster with their stuff". Comical is the use of the acronymn SFU for the services for Unix.
"Derp de derp."
I can't wait for the first set of benchmarks from "UT2k4 for Linux for Windows"
I believe this is short for SnaFU, "Situation normal all F@#ked Up", or "Situation F@#cked Up" for short.
Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds. - Albert Einstein
... "studies" showing that Unix/Linux is slower than Windows.
Anyone else read "run unix or linux code via STFU."
Now THAT would be interesting. Like your own Denis Leary in your computer.
What makes me laugh, though, is I can't help but think they're trying to build a *nix emulation layer for win32/winFX vis-a-vis Wine.
Why don't they just name it Functional Unix Distribution and get the whole acronym thing out in the open.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
If there are performance issues, and it represents a possible loss of face for Microsoft, wouldn't a better acronym be "Services Now Available For Unix"?
That way, it could be Microsoft's SNAFU.
GREAT Now I can have the ease-of-use of Linux apps combined with the operational stability of Windows!!
(Go ahead and mark me as a troll, but I was actually trying to be funny...)
Do people really use SFU?? First of all, the name is deceptive. When I hear "Windows Services for Unix" I think "SaMBa." It's a Windows service and it's for Unix. This stuff runs under Windows! Shouldn't it be Unix services for Windows?
Anyway, I'd be really interested to hear cases where people actually use this thing. To me it's easier and better to just load up another box with Linux to run Linux apps.
So, finally, we'll be able to have a beowulf clus...
Pish. You can't counter assumption with facts -- you'll set a deadly precedent.
Instead, try anecdotes that don't prove anything other than how dorky your friends are.. That's the slashdot way.
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You're right. And that matters because you're shipping over 12 million of them?
That the developers at MS had originally called this "STFU"?
I've been developing some analysis software for the last few months. I'm nearly code-complete but have been vexed by several issues. In particular, I've been wondering how I can bring my software to systems that are routinely rootkitted by script kiddies. Thanks to SFU, I can finally deliver software with the Quality that Windows users Expect.
Why would you want to run Linux apps on a less stable, less secure OS?
Well haven't you heard? Open source software kills jobs. At least this way you can run OSS on an OS that keeps people employed, and Bill rich.
Where do I sign up?
And there it is.
1. Microsoft licenses Unix from SCO
2. SCO revokes every other UNIX companies license
3. MS adds a Unix emulation layer
4. The whole world now has to license Windows to use their Unix systems
5. Profit
Who's assimilating whom now?
enable PHBs to replace Unix servers with cheap Dell boxes running Windows admined by MCSEs.
I'm not sure why this is preferable to cheap Dell boxes running Linux adminned by MCSEs, If they can't admin a unix service running on linux, they can't admin a unix service running on Windows either.
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Apple went to BSD.
Novell is going to Linux.
Windows...?
The next generation of Windows will be based on UnixWare.
"They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
Now MS is "beefing" up "Longhorn"
Now your PC can get Mad Cow disease!
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We Unix users don't need to learn to count words - we have a program to do it for us.I rest my case.