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DEFCON 12 - After the Hangover

DECula writes "Humphrey Cheung has written an excellent article for Tomshardware about what WAS Defcon 12. The combination of talks about a BlueSniper antenna and BlueSnarfing was a good match."

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  1. Hangover? by Kenja · · Score: 4, Funny

    Its not a real convention hangover unless your first words after getting up are "oh yea, I married that chick last night". Which is not likely given the male/female ratio at Defcon.

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    "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
  2. Man by Em+Emalb · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is there another field that has as many useless acronyms and busswords as the IT industry?

    I mean, hell, you can't even describe it without USING A DAMNED ACRONYM.

    Sheesh.

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    Sent from your iPad.
    1. Re:Man by savagedome · · Score: 4, Funny

      IT industry?
      without USING A DAMNED ACRONYM

      See the irony in the post?

    2. Re:Man by david.given · · Score: 2, Funny
      IT industry? without USING A DAMNED ACRONYM

      See the irony in the post?

      ACRONYM: A Contrived Reduction Of Nomenclature, Yielding Mnemonics.

  3. Wall of Sheep by darth_MALL · · Score: 3, Funny

    I need one of those where I work. Each time you appear on the list, you get docked $50 from your pay :) Now to get it past the management.

    1. Re:Wall of Sheep by not5150 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Negative... It started as the Wall of Shame and then was changed to the Wall of Sheep.

      The reason was there was a guy walking around with a "I F*** Sheep" Shirt. The guys thought that the people who sent cleartext passwords were like a herd of sheep. And the name stuck...

      Humphrey Cheung
      Editor - www.tomshardware.com
      Webmaster - www.not5150.com (300+ Extreme Videos)

    2. Re:Wall of Sheep by not5150 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think 1. You need to get your eyes checked... or 2. You actually didn't go.

      Here is a screenshot from the projecting laptop.
      http://www.not5150.com/wallofsheep.png

      Also if you RFTA'ed, You would see that I interviewed the guy who made and coded the wall.

      Humphrey Cheung
      Editor - www.tomshardware.com
      Webmaster - www.not5150.com (300+ Extreme Videos)

  4. SuicideGirls by xenostar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Omg! There's a suicidegirls password on that board!

  5. Re:what does... by natron+2.0 · · Score: 3, Informative

    DEFense CONference

  6. Re:what does... by 5m477m4n · · Score: 5, Informative

    DEFCON stand for anyways?

    In the Government it stands for: DEFense CONdition or DEFense readiness CONditions

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    Those who can, do
    Those who can't, teach
    Those who don't know how, supervise
  7. Wait...where are.... by cephyn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Where are the obligatory 100 pictures of weirded out booth babes?

    What? It's not that kind of convention?

    Crap. That's not much of a convention at all then...

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    Moo.
  8. Spot the Fed error by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny
    The feds that are "caught" take everything in stride and everyone has a good laugh. [an error occurred while processing this directive]
    Obviously this breaks some sort of natural law.
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    One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  9. pictures by SKPhoton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Defcon was great. plenty of pictures are up for your post-Defcon viewing enjoyment.

  10. Re:slashdotted already? by mailtomomo · · Score: 2, Funny

    depends : my left or your left ?

  11. Did you know...? by TheKingOfTorts · · Score: 3, Funny

    defcon stands for DEFinitely CONned out of a social life.

  12. Team Tsunami by blackrobe28 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the pic sites has several photos of team Tsunami locked into an epic FPS netgame, complete with multicolored LAN cables and cans of soda, right before showcasing the team learning how to use REAL firearms at one of Nevada's many target ranges.....

    One might doubt the wisdom of issuing sniper rifles and live ammunition to Counter Strike junkies.

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    Blackrobe "The Original TechnoWeenie!"
    1. Re:Team Tsunami by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, the survivors might breed. Good point.

  13. Good article by inerte · · Score: 4, Funny

    I only disagreed with a few points raised on it. For example, where it [an error occurred while processing this directive], it was kinda dumb.

    On the next page, the analisys [an error occurred while processing this directive], again, very dumb.

    Overall, a good article. But in the next time, I think we could see [an error occurred while processing this directive]

  14. Spot the Fed... by hot_Karls_bad_cavern · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...hehe, i gotta love a tradition such as this: both parties being good sports and enjoying the moment. You know the agents consider being "assigned" to Defcon to be treat - it's fun. New stuff, new tech, new ideas, new kids breaking the system, just good ol' fun as i see it.

    Oh lord, the oh-no-it's-not-fun-it's-against-the-law crowd will come out on this one. Seriously though, know thine enemy, what good fortune that you can enjoy the company of said "enemy". Hell, the Defcon kids enjoy knowing the "Feds" are there and will be watching. This is the cat and mouse that i admire and enjoy.

    i'm serious, good to see this tradition is still going strong. May both parties always be present, enjoy and learn....and i mean that, both parties. Happy hunting :)

  15. Rifles by gclef · · Score: 3, Informative

    Odd that they'd mention the BlueTooth rifle, but not mentioning the Shmoo 802.11 rifle..same idea, much sexier design, dangerous power levels...like, 13 Watts. They claimed that it was dangerous to stand in front of or behind it while it was on.

    1. Re:Rifles by carbolic · · Score: 4, Informative
      These two rifles are very similar - it's what's hooked up to them that matters. The Shmoo group used a Wi-Fi system with a 27 dB amplifier, while the Flexilis group used a Class 1 Bluetooth USB adapter modded with a cable and bluedriving software. (Note: I put together the wireless hardware used on the the Bluesniper rifle.)

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      Carbolic
      www.bluedriving.com

  16. VoIP Speech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I liked it when the guy figured out the phone number that they were using in the voip speech. He called up and yelled "owned" on the phone that was attached to the PA system, I fell out of my chair

  17. AirPwn by Twid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Read all about AirPwn, the best wireless remote goatse display app ever used at a Defcon, here:

    http://www.evilscheme.org/defcon/

    At Defcon 12 this year my cow-orkers and I brought along a little piece of code called "airpwn." Airpwn is a platform for injection of application layer data on an 802.11b network. Although the potential for evil is very high with this tool, we decided to demonstrate it (and give it its first real field trial) on something nasty, but harmless (compared to say, wiping your hard-drive)

    airpwn requires two 802.11b interfaces, one for listening, and another for injecting. It uses a config file with multiple config sections to respond to specific data packets with arbitrary content. For example, in the HTML goatse example, we look for any TCP data packets starting with "GET" or "POST" and respond with a valid server response including a reference to the canonical goatse image.


    (Hugs toast!)

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    - "When you want something with all your heart, the entire universe conspires to give it to you" -Paulo Coelho
  18. Re:Electronic Civil Disobedience speaker said WHAT by jcr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Looks like this putz wants to get some attention by getting stupid followers with minimal script-kiddie skillz to attack RNC web sites.

    IHMO, it's the stupidest idea since the republicans decided to exise the word "french" from capitol hill menus.

    -jcr

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    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  19. Re:Electronic Civil Disobedience speaker said WHAT by javaxman · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Although I can see the argument that some sort of electronic attack on the RNC cold be a valid form of civil disobedience, I definitely have to agreee with you that this guy is just lame lame lame, for the following reasons :

    1) The best you can propose is a DDOS attack? I mean, come on! That's just stupid, and causes collateral network slowdowns as well... how about something useful, like getting into the servers, redirecting to other websites or plain ol-fashioned defacing of main pages? A DDOS attack... it's just so lame...

    2) The guy can't even write a decent call-to-arms. "undemocratic will of the people" ? Did someone proofread this crap?? ;-)

    And no, I am not advocating that anyone should hack into any computer system, anywhere, because that would be wrong and illegal. No, really...

    Besides, individual bodies actually showing up in person all at once would be much more convincing and newsworthy than a website being down for a few minutes. If you want to disrupt the convention, I'm guessing a whole bunch of protesters showing up in person would be more effective than shutting down a website.

  20. Knows what he's talking about by carbolic · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Humphrey is totally in the field with his Tom's Hardware write-ups. Remember when he was the pilot Warflying over LA?

    Later that day, I talked to the fed who got nabbed in that spot the fed video. He was running Kismet when he got called up. Others around him whispered "He can't be a fed, he's running Kismet". Don't be fooled. I think some of these fed types dig technology as much as any hacker.

    The Bluesniper rifle by the guys at Flexilis is so cool - I built the bluetooth gear for them from the kits on my bluedriving.com site. And I had a chance to look through the scope at DefCon, but didn't get to bluesnipe anyone with it yet.

    The Shmoo Group has another rad wireless sniper rifle they showed at DefCon. (I think the Flexilis guys got the bag on Shmoo this time for walking in the first day carrying the rifle.) Check out Shmoo's build-it instructions: LINK

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    Carbolic
    www.bluedriving.com

  21. Miners strike by totierne · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is a story about the miners strike in England 1983-84, that the [fascist] state tried to have automated tape recorders to record any miners strike conversations, but everyone was talking about it then, and so the tapes ran out.

    From the Article:

    'The volume of information being seized for forensic analysis has mushroomed. It is not uncommon to see multiple terabytes of storage being examined. Agents said that some cases are approaching the petabyte range. Usually is because of emails and email attachments. Only with the development of better search techniques can the evidence be examined, as it is physically impossible to read every single email in many of these massive cases. [an error occurred while processing this directive]'

    Sounds like a challenge to blow their storage capacity and search capacity, blow your Broadband upload and download limits, you know you want to, it is for a cause (the development of better search algoriths of course, or sedition, or both).

    I reckon they store everything and look back at their logs when something crops up through less automated means.

  22. Electronic Civil Disobedience by Eightlines · · Score: 3, Informative

    For those curious about the Electronic Civil Disobedience hubub, the Inquirer has a couple paragraphs on what happened.

  23. Re:Fight! by cexshun · · Score: 4, Informative

    The fight was crazy. Basically the kid told the crowd to go to the Republican Convention and "Fuck up their shit" via any means possible. He told everyone to hack the website, use DDoS attacks, etc. He must be a fucking moron to start talking politics at a hacker convention.

    Basically, the crowd got pissed at his anti-free speech talk and started giving him shit. Security cut the talk short, and the crowd mobbed the stage to start firing questions at this punk. Eventually, 1 guy got nose to nose with the speaker, which is when he was wisked away by security.

  24. defcon is the only place by el+stevo · · Score: 4, Funny

    where nerds don't have to drink alone with their imaginary friends!

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    i'm sorry, i'm just sleep deprived... but bitter. yes. very bitter.
  25. Bluejacking by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 2, Informative

    You'all might not want to skip this site: bluejackQ.com

  26. Re:Electronic Civil Disobedience speaker said WHAT by jcr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Although I can see the argument that some sort of electronic attack on the RNC cold be a valid form of civil disobedience

    No, it's not. If the clown doesn't like what the RNC has to say, his right is to comment on it, and try to draw attention to his counter-argument. Trying to shut someone else up by flooding out their web sites is just wrong.

    individual bodies actually showing up in person all at once would be much more convincing and newsworthy than a website being down for a few minutes.

    Only trouble is, showing up in person actually takes some guts, which is not at all in evidence in this kid's call for a DDOS attack.

    -jcr

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    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  27. The KR1PT0 Car. by a.out · · Score: 2, Informative

    Seeing theKR1PT0 Car parked out back of the hotel was pretty cool.

    The bumper stickers are the best part.

  28. SSH Attacks by Nishi-no-wan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Was this conference the reason behind a large increase in SSH attack attemps over the past two weeks? The past few months had been relatively quiet in regard to SSH attacks (I was wondering if I'd been cracked and they weren't being reported any more), but I've been getting multiple attempts pretty much daily for the past two weeks. What's up?