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SciFi Channel To Air A New Galactica Series
EvilBuu writes "The Sci-Fi Channel has begun airing ads announcing a full Battlestar Galactica series following the surprisingly (to some) good new mini series starring Edward James Olmos. Looks like it will be a straight forward continuation of the mini, with the same cast and more Cylon goodness!" According to this press release, Richard Hatch will guest star, and the show will air starting in January 2005.
New Battlestar Galactica Series Greenlighted
...can be misleading from time to time, but i gotta say this looks like it's going to be very nice for the eyes :) i know, i know, that won't carry everything, but meh, i think it'll be fun to watch :)
Granted, I wasn't old enough to have watched the original Galactica (I'm not even 30 yet), but I did watch part of the mini-series and was thoroughly bored. Why they're going to make a regular series out of it, I'll never know.
One thing I *do* know is that as good as Stargate SG-1 is, it pisses me off that Stargate gets 8 seasons and counting *AND* a spinoff while Farscape got three years and change with an abrupt axing without doing the characters justice in the "ending".
That was enough to tick me off originally. But then Sci-Fi made it worse by continuing with that idiot John Edwards who "talks to stupid people"... oh - and supposedly their dead loved ones too (*cough* cold read *cough*). And then they had those two retarded "dream experts" that made everything in their show about *sex*. Sci-Fi is turning into the fucking LifeTime network. Then that terrible "Taken" by Spielberg (or lucas - I can't seperate the two anymore) and then that attrocious three hour guerilla marketing (disguised as a documentary) for The Village which investigated how M. Night Shyamalan is really some sort of voodoo shaman kind of guy with magical powers really did me in for good.
I canceled my cable last week due specifically to my dislike for the Sci-Fi network. I'll put that $120/mo into something more worth while and any shows that I deem worthy enough to waste my time watching, I'll just grab from bit torrent.
Anyway, back to the original point. What is it with Battlestar Galactica? It's about as exciting and interesting as that really crappy "Dark Shadows" series (and don't even get me started on the Mormony Goodness of the show). Is it just that SciFi couldn't find the funding for their 400th Sci-Fi Original movie about killer bees, killer anacondas, killer bats, killer dragons, killer spiders, killer rats, killer mosquitos, killer cats, or alien viruses?
They don't find the ratings too low and revamp it into Galactica 2006. "Hey, look, we're on Earth now!"
They've been advertising this for months.
The mini-series didn't suck anywhere near as much as I thought it would. It was actually pretty good. But then, considering how horrible the original series was, there was nowhere to go but up.
I'll be cancelled.
Yeah, this is flamebait, but that doesn't change its veracity.
If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
If they mean this Richard Hatch
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All I can say is... FRACK.
Am I the only one who finds the fact that nostalgia is driving the current Science Fiction series aired to be supremely ironic?
Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
God, I hope he keeps his clothes on this time. And Olmos better watch out, or he'll find that everyone has voted him off the Galactica
*yes I know it's a different Richard Hatch.
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Terrible nightmares of naked homosexual Cylons hell-bent on manipulating the universe...
Bring back Mystery Science Theater 3000 ;)
I loved BG as a child and I recently watched some re-runs for the first time since, all I can say is that the original series have not aged well, the whole thing looks cheesy and very early-80s. The scripting is laughable on occasions.
Contrast this to when I saw repeats of Dr Who, Blake's 7 etc from the same era. They seemed to have aged very well like a good wine, and despite some very dubious sets and sfx they make you realise that it's the quality of writing that make shows like these a classic.
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I am surprised he even agreed to do a guest spot seeing he bashed the direction the new series was going to follow( Like a female Starbuck/Boomer). It will be interesting to see his comments after he does his part.
Quid Pro Quo, nothing more, nothing less.
So they turned the McGuyver action hero character central to the SG theme into a desk jockey.... Yeah.. that'll boost ratings as they replace his anger fed machine gun sprees with angst fed stapler accidents.
Also of note:
Farscape is coming back as Farscape: Peacekeeper Wars. Old News.
New series based on Ursula K LeGuin's EarthSea coming in December. Old News.
Firefly is coming back in movie form as Serenity next summer. Old News.
SciFi channel is also contemplating a Larry Niven Ringworld miniseries. Old News.
And most likely, there's going to be another 8 or so Tremors spinoffs...
I was frankly surprised by a few events during the mini series, and I'm looking forward to the new season. However, now that they've shown us the 6 (ahem)chassis models, we know who the bad guys are. How many episodes can they go using that suspicion as a fundamental backdrop in the story line ... 3-5? Hopefully it won't turn into a lame attempt at a series ala Voyager, Deep Space 9, Enterprise.
I'm hoping for something more like Babylon 5 but moving through space...
...I saw the mini-series and yes, it was surprisingly good. I really really liked it. I liked that they avoided a lot of sci-fi cliches, except one.
So let's face, the invention of human cylons is a big horrible mistake and one of the worst sci-fi cliches ever. Obviously, they wanted to save on the CGI-effects budget and wanted to avoid cheesy robot costumes. So they came up with human-looking cylons. The pilot movie made it clear that the following series will revolve around the question which of the Galactica crew members is actually a cylon, possibly without even knowing about it.
But I see no suspense whatsoever from a plot point that was innovative in 1927's "Metropolis" but that has been worn off ever since: Is that person human or isn't it? Am I talking to the original or not? The idea of non-human enemies posing as humans to subvert the human forces has been done to death by every incarnation of Star Trek and practically almost every other sci-fi show ever made. I see no new idea coming from this. Too bad.
I just wish they would have avoided that and come up with some non-cheesy robot cylons.
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This is news how? There shouldn't be a single geek out there that hasn't been aware of this for months now.
"On a scale from 1 to 10, people are stupid"
Boring? How can you say you found the new Battlestar Galactica boring? It sucked through and through. Didn't you orgasm?
He's stated that he wanted more time to be with his family/daughter. By taking a lighter role he can hopefully do that.
In the "From Stargate to Atlantis" thing they said that season 7's ending wasn't how they wanted to end the series, and basically implied that season 8 would be it. We'll see.
Yep. I was disappointed to see him killed off. But with about 40 years of sci fi consumption under my belt - it was refreshing that somebody finally came up with actual scary bad guys in "The Wraith." It would be interesting if - as life sucking immortal monsters - they were also a vampire race, and Patrick came back as one of them.
That's kind of the same reason why Don S. Davis (Gen. Hammond) left the show entirely. He's had some health problems, and the stress of a shooting schedule wasn't helping. He wanted to spend the rest of his time relaxing with his family.
Asking once again, add the ability to meta moderate the people who post stories.
It is just getting ridiculous. The reposts have gone from sad, to so sad it is funny, to so sad it is just... sad.
This is just wonderful. maybe now they can put some new material into the show. I mean is it just me or watching the same thing with better cg and starbuck as a girl. Of course i could be wrong and we could get the same old stuff. Who knows the kids beingg able to jump 10times higher than regular earthilings might make another appearance. Well heres to new material that wont suck.
You would think that they could have come up with something more interesting than him becoming a desk jockey then. Maybe he could have somehow played a more vital role to that alien race (the greys who were like.. super super super advanced - and benevolant). And in that, he could have a periodic role, but without the dullness of the desk job thing.
Or maybe they thought the desk job bit was an unexpected twist that would normally not be pursued in a sci-fi show.
I saw the sci-fi special about stargate and the impression I was left with from some of the comments was that the 8th may or may not be the final season. They made it sound like they would continue to do both series simultaneously and didn't really appear to indicate that this *would* be it.
If they do end it, I hope they do the show justice with the ending. I really can't take anymore of this bullshit where we invest an hour every week for most of a decade into a show only to have the producers fuck us in the ass in the last season and feeds is melted cheese rather than tenderloin.
That's what pissed me off about X-Files and Farscape. Invested a lot of time and emotion into those shows and loved both only to have them tossed in the trash without an ounce of respect to the loyal audience that stayed along for the ride all those years.
Dammit! Screw Edward James Olmos and his pock-faced character. To hell with that lebian-ish looking chick that plays Starbuck, forever ruining the original series' mac daddy version of Starbuck (who later trolled the A-Team series). I don't care that the 2nd of two black guys from the original series has been turned into an Asian woman...that might actually be a humanoid Cylon fabricated for the sheer ease of reducing the CGI effects budget!
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WHAT ABOUT THE DAMNED TOYS?!
I want my little Galactica starfighter back -- from when I was only about 6 or 7 years old. I want figures to put into the starfights -- ones WITHOUT arms that bend at the elbows wrists. They better have less arm/leg motion than a Barbie doll on downers! I want the toys to require batteries so I can keep replacing them over and over again -- JUST TO HEAR THE CHEEZY LASTER BLASTER SOUNDS!
Oh -- and I want a Cylon fighter this time. My brother got a Lincoln Log set last time I owned Galactica toys, and dammit -- it's time I had my Cylong fighter! Fuck you, bro -- let's see how your "cabin" fairs against my army of silver badass Cylons!
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It wants it's dupe back.
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
That apostrophe really shouldn't be there in my parent post. That's what you get when you visit Slashdot after a long, hot Sunday spent plastering and sanding walls rather than catching some sun.
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
Do I really want more?
Maybe the Cylons and Daleks can once and for always
make space safe for inorganics.
As long as they don't stop StarGate.
Unfortunately, I think most people are just not going to "get it." I had a discussion with a friend who is the true "but this isn't like the original show, so it sucks!" The most fascinating thing about of this series is the fact that the Cyclons are now human. The pilot ended up with some great philosophical (for the Slashdot crowd, this won't work because it requires thinking about other positions than your own, I know..) ideas and plot points:
-- Are the Cyclons more human that we are? Can they have all their emotions without being socially destructive? Or, are they less human because they are so reigned in? Do they have freewill? Can they have freewill and yet also be sleeper programmed?
-- Is Baltar just psychologically unsound or did they plan a device in his head? We know that there are at least one other Cyclon on board, but I seriously suspect another. Are they the perpetrators or is Baltar unconsciously being controlled?
-- How will Starbuck deal with having passed Zack? In theory, this should lead to her resignation, but we cannot afford to lose any valuable pilots.
-- How with the X.O. handle his daemons now that his job isn't plush anymore?
This series has a lot more drama to it, which is probably why the "old crowd" doesn't care for it. I can say that the people I know who weren't raised on the old show really like this one.
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It's about money .
Dr Who and SciFi channel should be a perfect match.
There are all kinds of antagonists to use.
I believe the current crop of writers and producers just don't understand the protagonist/antagonist concept.
Example:
#1. Man, stranded in the snow, struggles to find shelter.
-vs-
#2. Man, stranded in the snow, struggles to find shelter from evil ice wizard's storm.
There's a huge difference between the two.
With the Borg, they were initially introduced as #1. They were impersonal.
Then, with the addition of the Borg Queen, they became #2.
"The idea of having an enemy be just a force that's Out There(tm) and not interactive just doesn't occur to some people.
But a force does make for a better antagonist in some situations. You cannot argue with it, persuade it, find out why it doesn't like you, etc.
I think the problem is that the writers/producers don't WANT anything to be BIGGER than their characters. The antagonist must have a voice and you must be able to tell when it has been defeated.
Humans vs Cylons:
Easy back in the 80's. People worried about losing their jobs to machines. Now we worry about being replaced by some guy in India. Robots from outer space just are not that effective as a generic threat now.
The other thing I found disappointing is how the writers never let any of the humans make a wrong decision.
#1. Must abandon the slower ships to be killed by the Cylons. But right then the Cylons show up so it isn't "abandon", it becomes "escape".
#2. "Bad" human guy tries to shift suspicion away from him by blaming an innocent person. But the "innocent person" turns out to be a robot.
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You must think in Russian.
I think he's doing it because this is his only opportunity to work as an actor. I think the guy is an okay actor but for whatever reason his career is over aside from anything related to Galactica. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0368745/
You would think so, but they haven't shown Dr. Who on Sci-Fi in over a decade. I suspect that they realize the show is too over-their-heads for the SCi-Fi channels "Scare Tactics / John Edwards" audience.
You mean they're not?
Homosexual? No. Naked? Yeah
That "Mormony Goodness" you lament led me to a deeper understanding of Satan.
I am hoping that the God-worshipping Cylons will similarly enrich my devotion to Satan .
Terrible nightmares of naked homosexual Cylons hell-bent on manipulating the universe...
Provided the Cylons in question are portrayed by Tricia Holfer and Grace Park, I have no problem with that scenario.
How to solve most of our problems: 1.Lots of nuclear plants. 2.Cure aging.
ive been seeing the damned commercials for months.. Wishing it was just a bad dream..
Man it was a terrible 'mini-series'.. i had hoped that was the end of it..
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We can't have a new Galactica. It is simply not possible, so it isn't there. It is all that Win XP SP 2 thing that has gotton into your heads. You all see things that simply aren't there. See. Okay, repeat after me: a new Galactica doesn't exist.
Now, off you go, do something usefull. How about downloading Win XP SP3 at: www.suse.com
He does seem to have put a lot of work into it. His site and his other site
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
That guy sucked on Survivor All Stars. I mean so what, he's big, he's gay, he's covered in hair, he bit a shark (ok that was kinda cool). Oh wait...... the OTHER Richard Hatch, gotcha.
I watched the original, and I couldn't get past the first 5 minutes of the new one - not because it was different from the original - but because it was f'ing stupid. They're supposed to be having this special 'treaty' meeting, or something, and the woman (presumably cylon in human form) starts the meeting by sitting on his lap! I said to my self, "I she kisses him next, I'm outta here!" I want those 5 minutes back Sci-Fi!
Either you hate it or you love it. Haven't seen much indifference. I for one welcome our nuclear strike cylon enemy overlords.
You misspelled "goddesses". I agree, we need more of those hot, kissing ambassador models.
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I can afford to pay for cable and watch the new Battlestar: Gallactica series. But then I will have to pay for therapy due to my sexual fantasies about Starbuck. Then I will not be able to afford cable.
Oh c'mon...
Did anyone else watch the original series?
(1) Heavy attempts at mixing "Chariots of the Gods" with Mormonism.
(2) Death of a loved one causing the hero to rise up against the baddies, or as I called it 20 years ago, "Larson's Disease". It's happened on BG, Buck Rogers, Knight Rider and Magnum P.I.. Nothing worst than a director who's derivative of his own works.
(3) Everyone in *THE FUTURRRRRE!!!* listens to disco.
(4) Rampant T&A. Every show Larson has done featured some measure of blatant tits and ass, plain and simple.
Frankly, the only thing that made BG good, was creative costuming, special effects, and soundtrack. Otherwise it was just another bit of Universal "Originality? Whazzat?" hackwork.
As for the geek squadrons, do you REALLY want to support the movie company that made Jack Valenti what he is today?
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You miss the point - this news item is about the NEW SPOTS they are running on Scifi! They didn't have them i February!
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Stargate SG1: Spinoff of a pretty good movie
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Stargate Atlantis: Spinoff of a spinoff
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Andromeda (LBX): Bought from syndication
Scare Tactics: science FICTION channel REALITY series.
They have a couple other "original" series that I have not seen so I do not feel comfortable talking about. Good for them that there seem to still be a few original shows. See here for their seriously weakened lineup when compared to a few years ago: http://www.scifi.com/onair/shows/
Apparently original ideas are no longer acceptable on SciFi channel.
Why else cancel the amazing show that is Farscape? Farscape takes science fiction to a new level, and a lot of people are picking up on it after the huge fan response to the cancellation.
(Okay actually SciFi didn't "approve" of Farscape because they didn't own it top to bottom. The Farscape game, the little action figures, everything, was under Henson's control. Under the surface the Farscape cancellation is about media consolidation; SciFi Channel doesn't like what they can't own completely.) See this Ted Turner article about this general trend in the industry: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/04
A lot of people still haven't seen Farscape, so I invite you to watch it Monday through Friday, 9AM-4PM, from Friday, Oct. 1, through Friday, Oct. 15. SciFi channel is airing all 4 seasons so people can catch up.
I beg of you; spread the word about this amazing show.
p.s. I do not wish to offend on Stargate fans or Andromeda fans. Im just extremely passionate about Farscape, I hope you will not be turned off by my enthusiasm.
John Susek
* The sequence of events during and immediately following the Cylon attack was well-handled, IMHO. It had the feeling of a real event, where nobody knew quite what was going on and people who were not expected to be leaders had to step up and take responsibility.
* The environment on Galactica, the crew reactions, and the overall tone of a fleet that had been on guard duty for years without seeing any combat, and was now engaged in combat felt right to me.
* The "combat journalism" style of dogfight footage was great. I definitely prefered it to the smooth, effortless and artificial feel of most Trek space combat.
* The characters were set up with individual personalities without reliance on alien cliches. It's a lot more difficult to make a show based on mere humans seem interesting to SF fans, but I wanted to know more about these characters, and I felt that there was a lot more to explore in each of them.
I loved the old show when I was a kid, primarily because of Starbuck, and because I could picture myself flying around in a Viper waxing Cyclon Raiders. But this is a very different show for a different audience. In my opinion it's better acted and richer, and it has the potential to be a solid series. I'm looking forward to seeing more of it.
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..does every scifi channel discussion bring out the 'scifi sucks cuz they cancelled farscape' trolls? get over it. nobody cared about the show and it got canned. same thing happened to the 1st star trek show too ya know.
back on topic...
BG could be interesting... if they don't keep it centric to the cylons _looking_ human. what is humanity? is it a flesh and blood (ie genetics) thing... or more a state of mind? what is a mind? what is a soul?
these are just some of the interesting ways to go with the plot and general story arcs.
we shall see what happens i suppose.
oh yes, i though farscape sucked.
...for every "Farscape Troll" there's a "Farscape Sucked" troll. Sorry troll-boy, but it's common knowledge that Farscape wasn't cancelled because of poor ratings, but because the rising production costs cut into Sci-Fi's budget. (Some also believe Bonnie Hammer - the devil incarnate herself - got into a pissing match with the German company who owned Henson Productions at the time, and cancelled Farscape as a final "fuck you". The fact that Farscape's airing is back on less than a year after Brian Henson and friends spent personal fortunes to reacquire the franchise makes this seem plausible.)
You paid $120 a month for cable ?????!!!!
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I'll agree with that scenario as well...
I say this with some sorrow, because I enjoyed the original series when I was in grade school, but Galactica has suffered a number of indignities over the years and between rewriting, editing, and corporations that were more concerned about cashing in on the nostalgia than producing a good quality science fiction series the series has lost much of its luster for me. Now, to be fair to the Sci-Fi channel and some of the original cast members the recent miniseries was a good intentioned attempt to recapture some of what made the Galactica concept so compelling. However, Galactica has always, even during the original run, suffered from lack of budget. The original series for example, cost $1,000,000 per episode in 1978 and it was cancelled even though it was the number one show that year. The hard truth is that advertisers, even if your show is number one in ratings, will only pay so much for a 30 second commercial spot. Thus, in order to make the show profitable there have always been compromises. I really wanted to like the new miniseries...I really did. I watched it in its entirety, even though I winced at some of acting and most of the dialog. Perhaps the series will prove me wrong...I hope so...but I am not getting my hopes up.
I don't know about you guys but i think that when you remake a popular 80's series or movie, you need to retain that 80's feel. the 80's music, hairstyle, corniness etc. Star Wars I-II could have been much better done that way, instead of "improving" eps 4-6 the way we all bitch about, and it would be consistent with the star wars universe. Ah... the 80's....
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I want my little Galactica starfighter back ...
Yeah, what he said. And not the "safe" version with the missiles glued into place, either! I want the original one!
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O'Neill has always been essentially second in command of the base, and would assume command automatically anyway if anything happened to Hammond. He would also assume command of the alphasite if the SGC ever got really compromised.
I think him taking command when Hammond simply moved on is a natural assumption. The only reason anyone else ever held that position was because of some sort of outside pressure (NID, President).