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Apple Releases 10.3.5

derphilipp writes "Apple just released 10.3.5 via software update. On the list of changes were - among others - new graphic card drivers, support for reading filesystems and a better samba support. Its size is 43 MB and its available via softwareupdate. Happy updating." Update: 08/09 22:46 GMT by T : EverLurking writes to note that Apple has also released the 5.3MB "'Security Update 2004-08-09' for OS 10.3.4 (along with OS Update 10.3.5) via software update that patches the security hole in the libpng libraries that could crash applications opening up malformed PNG images."

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  1. More detailed update list: by eviltypeguy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think most people will find this update list a bit more informative than the story submitter gave:

    - Improved support for NTFS formatted volumes
    - Improved reliability for user logins and mounting of home directories in a networked environment
    - Updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers
    - Improved Bluetooth compatibility for Apple Wireless Keyboard/Mouse and Bluetooth phones
    - Additional FireWire and USB device compatibility
    - Improved font management
    - Updated Mail and Image Capture applications
    - Improved compatibility for third party applications
    - Previous standalone security updates

    1. Re:More detailed update list: by ChaosWing · · Score: 1

      He remembered more than I did...I installed the update myself, but couldn't remember all the stuff it updated. It still isn't listed on Apple's website, either...no support page, no download links, nothing. Didn't think to try the links that came with the update; can someone copy/paste those in and post them?

    2. Re:More detailed update list: by sinclair44 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The URL given in Software Update is http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n25791 . For those that tried it earlier, the article actually exists now. :)

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    3. Re:More detailed update list: by SILIZIUMM · · Score: 3, Informative
  2. Technote on update by hawaiian717 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Apple has a technote out with the update:

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=257 91

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  3. Full update information.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    is on this page. Here's the part you care about:

    Enhancements

    These are some of the enhancements included with the Mac OS X 10.3.5 Update.

    Bluetooth enhancements

    Bluetooth FIle Exchange now works better with Bluetooth-capable Hewlett-Packard printers.

    Resolves an issue in which an application that's performing an asynchronous Bluetooth operation could quit unexpectedly, if the computer went to sleep before the data transfer was complete and the "Allow Bluetooth devices to wake this computer" preference setting was disabled.

    Addresses an issue in which Bluetooth File Exchange could unexpectedly quit if you tried to copy several files but one or more of them already existed at the target location.

    Networking, Internet enhancements

    If you had difficulties connecting to the Internet with a Comcast cable modem and your account uses DHCP configuration (as opposed to PPPoE), then this update can help you connect more easily. If it doesn't, contact Comcast for further assistance. (An example of this issue would be that your computer can't get an IP address when connected to the cable modem, and your Network preferences are set to configure via DHCP.)

    Improves the way Safari handles certain kinds of GIFs, including ones that could cause Safari to quit unexpectedly. Reintroduces shorter server pathnames; the overall limit remains 89 characters, but now only 24 characters (instead of 39 with Mac OS X 10.3 through 10.3.4) are reserved for the beginning of the pathname. More...

    Other enhancements

    Image Capture can now import MPEG-4 movies (.MP4) from compatible digital cameras.

    Resolves a potential data loss issue after renaming a Mail mailbox file.

    Addresses an issue for Mac OS X 10.3.4 in which Installer might unexpectedly quit when installing software that has a Japanese name.

    Corrects an issue in which analog speakers connected to a PowerBook or iBook during sleep sometimes didn't produce sound after waking the computer.

    Resolves an issue with Mac OS X 10.3.4 in which the internal microphones of some iBook (Dual USB) computers would not be available to applications or Sound preferences.

    Allows the "Attach" button of Eudora version 6.0 and 6.0.1 to work as expected.

    Improves support for NTFS-formatted volumes.

    Updates the libpng (Portable Network Graphics) component.

    Includes recent Security Updates.

    1. Re:Full update information.... by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 1
      Interesting... a specific mention to Comcast when this very week I'm having a God-awful time setting up high-speed cable internet on my Powerbook, iMac, and ancient Dell laptop. After spending 3 hours on the phone with helpful, yet useless tech guys... I'm willing to try just about anything.

      It's not that I can't get an IP address, though... it's that I can't make a secure connection to their #$@!@* registration server.

    2. Re:Full update information.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as a comcast installer this is probably due to the security settings of the web browser you are using. we have been unable to find a way to make safari or internet explorer for OS X accept Comcasts server ticket, as it is not certified and the date is incorrect on the ticket. if you can get your hands on a copy of Mozilla, though, you'll probably be a lot better off, as we used this without any trouble.

      Make sure in your proxies for registration to set

      sas.rXX.comcast.com port 8080 for both HTTP and Secure, and do not use proxy for *.rXX.comcast.com

    3. Re:Full update information.... by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      I don'T have time to check it but, here console watchers like me, one of the best things fixed:
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      Aug 3 09:05:06 localhost /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: /Library/Frameworks/EDWOCommon.framework/Versions/ A/EDWOCommon must be slid, but fix_prebinding could not find a good place to relocate it.
      Aug 3 09:05:06 localhost /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: /Library/Intego/integod appears to have no prebinding problems.
      Aug 3 09:05:06 localhost /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: 2004-08-03 09:05:06 +0300: prebinding for integod done.
      Aug 3 09:05:06 localhost /usr/libexec/fix_prebinding: /Library/Intego/integod could not be launched prebound.
      ___

      This crap is gone, it won't try like million times.

      PS: It was OS'es fault, not Intego's.

  4. Let's see... by Spudley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Okay. Let's see...

    Microsoft releases a patch for Windows that fixes bugs. The patch is 250 meg.

    The next day, Apple releases an update for OSX that adds new features. The update is 43 meg.

    Compare and contrast.

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    1. Re:Let's see... by Meowing · · Score: 1

      Actually, 10.3.5 is mostly bug fixes too.

    2. Re:Let's see... by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ummm...there's a metric shit-ton of new features in SP2, and very few in 10.3.5.

      Don't get me wrong, I'm about to run Software Update right now, but let's be fair.

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    3. Re:Let's see... by tyrione · · Score: 1, Troll
      You're joking right?

      Comparing a high-end UNIX Operating System to XP?

      Give me a break. The Shell alone in NT/2K/XP is a painful experience, let alone customizing the POS and dealing with Registry Entries

      Having years on NT/2K/XP along side years on NeXTSTEP/Openstep and LINUX and soon OS X let's not even go there with which OS's should be the market leaders for sheer capabilities versus Reality that shows us time and time again that 3rd Rate is the American Way.

    4. Re:Let's see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must be why XP is being replaced by Longhorn after so short a time.

      Oh - don't PC users have OS upgrades any more?

    5. Re:Let's see... by Yaztromo · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Ummm...there's a metric shit-ton of new features in SP2, and very few in 10.3.5.

      To be fair, Apple has already released 3 OS X 10.3 updates this year.

      Microsoft, on the other hand, released Windows XP SP1 on September 9, 2002, and SP1a on February 3, 2003.

      So in a year and a half since the last update, I'd expect there to be a whole lot more features than between updates only 2 months apart.

      Yaz.

    6. Re:Let's see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe it's a metric fuckton ;)

    7. Re:Let's see... by Armchair+Dissident · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you're going to be fair, be fair. Windows XP is to PC's as OS X 10.1 is to Macs. Both were initially released in 2001. OS X has seen a "metric shit-ton of new features" since 10.1.

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    8. Re:Let's see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Emphasis on "shit"

    9. Re:Let's see... by The+Madpostal+Worker · · Score: 1

      thats ignoring the fact that all SP1a did over SP1 was remove a feature.

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  5. libPNG also updated by Hungus · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Interestingly not part of the 10.3.5 update, but separate, is the libPNG update described below

    libpng (Portable Network Graphics) Fixes CAN-2002-1363, CAN-2004-0421, CAN-2004-0597, CAN-2004-0598, CAN-2004-0599

    Impact: Malicious PNG images can cause application crashes and could execute arbitrary code

    Description: A number of buffer overflows, null pointer dereferences and integer overflows have been discovered in the reference library for reading and writing PNG images. These vulnerabilities have been corrected in libpng which is used by the CoreGraphics and AppKit frameworks in Mac OS X. After installing this update, applications that use the PNG image format via these frameworks will be protected against these flaws.
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    1. Re:libPNG also updated by Meowing · · Score: 1

      Are these really independent updates? I notice that the libpng security update is listed for 10.3.4. I happened to install 10.3.5 on one machine just before the libpng update appeared, and the Software Update on that machine doesn't see it as a needed update.

      Can anyone confirm if the libpng update included with 10.3.5 already has the security update? I'm wondering if the separate patch is there for people who aren't quite ready to do the entire upgrade.

    2. Re:libPNG also updated by Hungus · · Score: 1

      Well I run server and I installed 10.3.5 rebooted then installed libPNG which showed up separately. But then My machines all run server BTW anyone want to buy a pair of XServes (2 x dual 1ghz + extra P/S, Drive Module, Fan and Proc Board? $3600 US currently co-hosted in Dallas Infomart) email listed is legitimate.

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    3. Re:libPNG also updated by .com+b4+.storm · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, it is part of the OS X update, according to the knowledge base article. The separate security patch is probably for people who want the security fix without the risk of a brand new system update that hasn't been widely tested yet.

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    4. Re:libPNG also updated by Hungus · · Score: 1

      try reading my other post on the situation ... for server as I stated it is seperate. I know this as it showed up still after installing 10.3.5 but again that is server you workstation users have things different :)

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  6. Security Update... by singularity · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Apple also released a Security Update fixing the libpng problem.

    So far I have not found anything about it on Apple's site, but chances are you will see that as well when you run Software Update.

    Running 10.3.5 now, and no problems so far.

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  7. Downloading it right now on XP by pyrrhonist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because, it's smaller than XP SP2...

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    1. Re:Downloading it right now on XP by pyrrhonist · · Score: 0
      WTF? Flamebait?

      Why are there Windows zealots that reading the Apple section????

      Sheesh...

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  8. Just installed it... by boredMDer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just installed this on my G3 iBook, seems to have all gone okay.

    No major speed increases it seems, but I swear the dock seems a bit more responsive then it did before. This is with 384 MB RAM, by the way.

    Before the dock would stutter when I opened up my normal amount of apps on boot (6, 7), but now it responds smoothly when I roll my mouse over it (magnification on) and the icons are bouncing.

    1. Re:Just installed it... by BishopBerkeley · · Score: 1

      The dock IS more responsive. I noticed that right away, too. On the whole, the system is booting faster, and running much more smoothly. Apple Mail was updated, too, and I have noticed improvement in its performance as well.

      This latest series of updates to OS X is not nearly as big as SP2 for XP, but it does rival it. You have to count iSync update, the security update and Java 1.4.2 update, which was released today. In all, I have downloaded almost 100 megabytes, I think.

      Of course, for those of us who love and use fink, there is the XCode update. 370 megabytes.

      For my money, I am getting A LOT more from Apple than I ever did with M$. So, I ain't complaining.

      P

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    2. Re:Just installed it... by boredMDer · · Score: 1

      Even if you discount the OS, I love the hardware enough to warrant a switch.

      Then again, being mainly a Linux user, I have an equal OS across most architectures out there.

      But subtle things, the heartbeat LED when it goes to sleep, or the lit ring around the power adapter's tip, or the aesthetically pleasing cutout on the back of the LCD to allow the light from the CC to shine through.

      To think, I used to be a Mac basher until January when I was shopping for a laptop and went straight to Apple.com :-)

    3. Re:Just installed it... by BishopBerkeley · · Score: 1

      I was a Mac basher coming from the Windows side. Then, my boss got a Jaguar PowerMac. All of a sudden I found this nice looking computer that did exactly everything that I ever wanted a computer to do. There was no going back. I've my powerbook exactly a year now, and I shudder whenever I have to work on a Windoze box.

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  9. no problems so far by astrodawg · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I just updated my G4 733 (nvidia and ati cards, 1.12gb ram, dual hard drives, dual monitors) and have no problems so far.

  10. 12" 1.33Ghz PowerBook owners, rejoice! by General+Sherman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe I'm just insane, but 10.3.5 has finally fixed the problem where the third or fourth 3D app launched would have seriously negative performance. It also nudges up the 3D performance in general, instead of getting 70FPS in BZFlag I now get 85.

    You rock apple.

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    1. Re:12" 1.33Ghz PowerBook owners, rejoice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm stuck with an 867mhz 12in powerbook, so fuck you.

    2. Re:12" 1.33Ghz PowerBook owners, rejoice! by MichaelKVance · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And yet there's a known & fixed inefficieny in the 7500/8000/9000 Radeon drivers that /still/ hasn't been released. Grrr.

      m.

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    3. Re:12" 1.33Ghz PowerBook owners, rejoice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the update included drivers for ATi and nVidia cards, so you're probably right about a 3D driver big fix.

    4. Re:12" 1.33Ghz PowerBook owners, rejoice! by jvalenzu · · Score: 1

      Boo Hoo!

  11. Nokia 7610 Sync by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    It seems iSync still doesn't recognize my Nokia 7610. I was hoping 10.3.5 would fix that.

    1. Re:Nokia 7610 Sync by jimmyharris · · Score: 3, Informative

      I read about this issue this morning (though I don't have a 7610, it still stayed in my head).

      Much the same thing is happening with users who bought Nokia's 7610 mobile phone, expecting that it would naturally sync with the Mac. It doesn't and, according to a recent post at discussions.info.apple.com, it won't, at least not until Apple changes the technology iSync uses to communicate with Symbian devices like the 7610.

      The Nokia 6600, 3650 and 3660 used a program called mRouter. The 7610 uses different software, which requires iSync to switch to SyncML. But nobody knows when that might happen. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a sync tool that worked with the executives of Microsoft, Apple and Nokia?

      From http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/08/09/10920 22394057.html

    2. Re:Nokia 7610 Sync by Xyde · · Score: 3, Informative
      iSync DOES use SyncML and it always has. I specifically remember Steve Jobs raving on and on about SyncML at the keynote where iSync was introduced (10.2 beta demonstration if I recall)

      If there's any specific problem with iSync not working with Nokia mobile phones, I'd wager it would be Nokia's problem, and their nonstandard bluetooth implementations (why use oh, say, the bluetooth headset profile for a bluetooth headset when you can break compatibility with everyone else by running it over the serial profile?)

      If I'm wrong about anything in this post, someone please correct me as I don't like to be misinformed...

    3. Re:Nokia 7610 Sync by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't it be nice if there was a sync tool that worked with the executives of Microsoft, Apple and Nokia?
      yes, it's called Open Standards and could sync all CEO's.

    4. Re:Nokia 7610 Sync by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I had the same problem with my Nokia 7650 when Panther originally came out.

      You can hack around in the SymbianConduit and iSync configuration files for a bit to trick iSync into thinking it's really a phone that it can sync with. I did that for my 7650 and it worked fine.
      However, I'm not sure what changes have been made to the SymbianOS since then.

    5. Re:Nokia 7610 Sync by derubergeek · · Score: 1
      The Nokia 6600, 3650 and 3660 used a program called mRouter. The 7610 uses different software, which requires iSync to switch to SyncML. But nobody knows when that might happen.

      There must be more to it than that. iSync works with my Moto T730c & previously with my V.60. Both of these, although not Bluetooth enabled, are SyncML protocol phones.

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    6. Re:Nokia 7610 Sync by jeremyp · · Score: 1

      I ran software update straight after rebooting with 10.3.5 and immediately picked up an iSync update. It might help.

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    7. Re:Nokia 7610 Sync by Ilgaz · · Score: 2, Informative

      Knowing from my brothers phone (7650), the newly released Nokias, especially Symbian based ones ship with err.. crap firmware.

      You should check the firmware issues on web. Not just for iSync , e.g. 7650 has smtp auth capability after firmware update...

  12. All's well so far... by ChaosWing · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm posting this from my updated Powerbook G4, so I assume it went OK and didn't break anything. I can't vouch for any spectacular performance boosts or anything, but I'm gonna throw everything I have at it right now and see if anything's broken. Hopefully it won't, like, explode or anything.

    1. Re:All's well so far... by dfj225 · · Score: 2, Funny

      *sizzle*...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

      That is the sound of a man destined to never have children.

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    2. Re:All's well so far... by hackstraw · · Score: 1


      I just found out it broke X11 for me on my powerbook. That sucks, because I need X....

  13. An automatic change by skahshah · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just installed it. Automatically changed my monitor's resolution from 1280 x 1024 to 1600 x 1200! I decided to trust it.

    1. Re:An automatic change by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wow! I can't wait to see if that works on my PowerBook too!

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    2. Re:An automatic change by Gropo · · Score: 1
      Bizarre! 10.3.5 just switched my resolution from 13x10 up to 16x10--actually perfectly LETTERBOXED on my display. If only I had a CRT capable of a good refresh rate at 1600.

      Sawtooth 500 upgraded with a Radeon 7500.

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  14. Just installed it by SILIZIUMM · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just installed it on my iMac DV+ 450 and saw some changes so far. First, Darwin was upgraded to version 7.5.0. Then, if you go to the system preferences, a new row (Other) is added with an icon labelled "Hardware". For me, it shows infos about the CPU and let me choose if I want to desactivate the L2 cache (combobox with "512KB" or "None"). Safari was upgraded too, now running as 1.2.3 (v125.9). That's about it for now...

    1. Re:Just installed it by SD_92104 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, the "Hardware" system pref pane most probably is part of the developer "CHUD Tools" and has been there before as soon as you installed those...

    2. Re:Just installed it by Juanvaldes · · Score: 1

      "Others" will show up if you add any old system panel. I believe Hardware comes with the developer tools, that always seems to be when it shows up. Just checked and hardware is on this eMac that is still on 10.3.4

    3. Re:Just installed it by Spyritus · · Score: 1

      "Hardware" System Prefs is part of Developer tools I think.

    4. Re:Just installed it by SILIZIUMM · · Score: 1

      Well that must be it because I installed XCode 1.5 like 2 days ago and didn't went to system preferences since then :D

    5. Re:Just installed it by General+Sherman · · Score: 1

      That's not 10.3.5, that's actually CHUD tools. I don't know why that's part of it, it's kind of useless besides making your computer really slow by disabling the L2 cache.

      Freaked me out the first time I installed CHUD, I wondered where the hell this control panel had come from.

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  15. 10.3.5 install: my results by BobWeiner · · Score: 1

    Installed 10.3.5 on both a PowerBook G4 and 1.8GHz G5 at work. No problems with the install at all -- everything went smoothly. There is a slightly better video response from both machines with the update. On the single G5 processor, Genie effects appear to be incredibly smooth, whereas before they were somewhat choppy. Using Desktop Manager, transitions between virtual desktops was also incredibly smooth. In short, during my brief use, no problems were encountered.

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    1. Re:10.3.5 install: my results by BandwidthHog · · Score: 1

      Using Desktop Manager, transitions between virtual desktops was also incredibly smooth.

      Dude, you sure about that? I can't imagine the Desktop Manager transitions (tried the cube yet?) being any smoother, and this is only a G4/533 tower.

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  16. 43 MB ? by kev0153 · · Score: 1

    My update was only 22.9 MB. Seems odd. I did have separate security update that was something like 5 MB.

    1. Re:43 MB ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Read some of the links to the Apple notes above. Basically the size is dependent on what security updates have already been installed on your computer. Additionally, if you went via Software Update instead of the standalone installer, you might need to go back to Sofftware Update as it mentions some of the packages need other packages installed first, and so might appear afterwards.

      See here for details about "delta updates" through Software Update, and here for details about the 10.3.5 update specifically.

      Now to actually update my machine :)

    2. Re:43 MB ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oops - I forgot to mention in the other post that smaller updates can also occur because of software modifications rather than complete replacements - explained in the info page on delta updates in the other post :)

  17. size by grrrl · · Score: 1

    my update pane says 22.9mb, not the 43 (+5.3 for the security update)

    1. Re:size by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See here for why this occurs :) (Plus I forgot to mention in the other post that some patched software can be modified instead of fully replaced, keeping the overall patch size down. It's all explained in the delta update link to Apple in that Slashdot post) :)

    2. Re:size by PabloJones · · Score: 1

      Oh come on... in this progressive era, we all know that size doesn't matter.

    3. Re:size by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 1

      It's 22.9MB for me too, that's because we only need the 10.3.4-10.3.5 updater. Not the whole Combo.

  18. Thank goodness by Tom7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... support for reading filesystems

    Thank goodness. I've been having a hell of a time with these write-only filesystems.

  19. 10.3.5 Server is out TOO ! by djdavetrouble · · Score: 1

    Dude I'd post the info but its not on apples site yet even if it is
    in software update. Basically its:
    New stuff
    Better stuff
    Fixed Stuff

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    1. Re:10.3.5 Server is out TOO ! by stoney27 · · Score: 2, Informative

      And with the 10.3.5 server the server tools are updated to 10.3.5 :) If they are installed on your machine, client or server re-run software update to find the server tools ready to install.

      -S

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  20. 10.3.4 Knocked up my sister... by franklinrh · · Score: 1

    Drank all my scotch, used my ATM card, and wiped his ass on my pillow.

    Of course the 10.3.5 updater did fix the nasty kernel panic issues I've been having with 3 identical Maxtor 160GB firewire external drives. Before, trying to use more than one at a time would cause a kernel panic on boot-up.

    After running the update all 3 drives can now be used on boot-up, turned on and off while the computer is on and everything.

    Ah. Back to hot swapping.

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  21. security update by schvoo · · Score: 1

    There was also a Security update.

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    1. Re:security update by geoffspear · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Oh come on. Everyone knows that open source software like libpng couldn't possibly have a single security-related bug because the billions of people reading the code every day would have found it before it was even released. You must have imagined the update.

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  22. Funny they mention Comcast by TheHonestTruth · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I had a bitch of a time getting Comcast modem set up under WinXP. After calling comcast and having them troubleshoot it for 20 minutes, during a reboot I said "it's too bad you guys don't support set up under Macs." The tech replied, "what do you mean? Sure we do." "Yeah, but not OS X, right?" "No, we support 9 and X." Popped the disc in my iBook, 1, 2, 3 done. Much easier than my Win machine.

    -truth

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  23. Re: Any BT support for Moto V600 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Subject line says it all. Why isn't this phone yet supported on bluetooth?

  24. Nice by The+Lost+Supertone · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well I updated, hopefully this will fix the problems I had after 3.4, I always thought of going back to 3.3 but was always just to lazy. Anyway 3.5 seems to be running well, I noticed it seems to take more RAM on launch. not a big deal I still have a good couple hundred of megs left, but Activity monitor shows more than a quarter on start up of my memory is being used, before it looked like an exact quarter. Strange. I'm glad they fixed the problem with Safari it crashed a bit much for my taste a while ago. Haven't had the problem recently though. Don't think it broke anything yet. Fireworks still seems to work so I'm thankful :)

  25. Download size can vary by neoguri · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apparently the download size can vary: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=257 99.

    Having multiple macs, I guess this means I can't reuse the package. Darn.

    1. Re:Download size can vary by General+Sherman · · Score: 1

      You could download the Combo updater, which will work on any copy of Panther to bring it to 10.3.5.

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    2. Re:Download size can vary by CountBrass · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the article you provided a link to ;-)

      If you just want to download an update once, you probably want to use a "Combo" update installer version, available from Apple Downloads.
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  26. OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Preview by dnahelix · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When the 'show icon preview' box is checked in the 'Show View Options'
    pane, the preview icon for images with a portrait aspect
    ratio (taller than it is wide) are incorrectly drawn.

    View an image of it happening here.

    This is a screen shot of two folders I made.
    Each one has a set of images that are named to match their size
    (in pixels).
    'show icon preview' is on for both of these folders.
    The icon size is set to 128 pixels.

    As anyone can see, the landscape images have correct previews,
    but the portrait images get smaller. It appears the more narrow
    the image is, the smaller the preview.
    It is not using it's 128x128 icon space.
    The 8 x 128 image is so narrow, it's preview icon disappears altogether!


    I've written Apple and sent them the link... *sigh*

    I'm sick of all my portrait images having tiny thumbnails!
    10.3.5 - Bug Still There!








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  27. Re:OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Prev by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 2, Informative

    How did you write them? If you didn't use the BugReporter, chances are that their engineers will never see it.

  28. NTFS and Samba by kalidasa · · Score: 2, Informative

    Anyone know just what the NTFS improvements are? ALso, are there any Samba improvements (for instance, Windows 2003 Server connectivity out of the box?).

    1. Re:NTFS and Samba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I noticed after rebooting and firing up iTunes that when I clicked on the song that was residing on a samba mount (that wasn't mounted) it prompted me to login for an automount operation instead of just going to the next song in the list.... which freaking rocks!!!

    2. Re:NTFS and Samba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also the connectivity you speak of between SAMBA and win2003 is probably not an issue with SAMBA but a lack of compatibility on behalf of mount_smbfs.

    3. Re:NTFS and Samba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clicking on Network in the Finder still doesn't show the Windows machine on my home network. I have to Command-K to connect to the Windows server. Very frustrating. The Windows machine has no problem seeing and connecting to my Mac.

  29. I call shenanigans! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You actually expect us to believe that you spoke to a Comcast tech who was knowledgable and helpful?

    1. Re:I call shenanigans! by TheHonestTruth · · Score: 1
      I've only called them once, so I can only speak to the helpfulness of this employee. How much credit your give for "We support OS X" is up to you.

      Despite my current loathing of RCN, of the dozen or so times I have called their tech support, roughly half the calls have been with an experienced, knowledgeable techie. Too bad their finance department doesn't know the definition of "cusomer service."

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    2. Re:I call shenanigans! by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Too bad their finance department doesn't know the definition of "cusomer service."

      Come to think of it, I don't know the definition of that myself. :)

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    3. Re:I call shenanigans! by TheHonestTruth · · Score: 1
      Me neither. I can't find it in the "ditionary" anywhere. ;-) man I suck at typing.

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  30. USB iPods by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Informative

    The full support for USB iPods with iTunes sounds like good news to me.

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  31. Side Question. by pavon · · Score: 1

    Slightly off topic, but I haven't found a solution elsewhere. The OS X version of Quake III (1.32-altivectest2 - hasn't been updated for about a year), has an issue with crashing when you get shot in the face with a projectile (the plasma gun is most noticable). I have been trying to find a solution/workaround to this problem but have not had any luck - as is common, I can find plenty of posts from people who also have the problem, but none that provide a solution. Someone mentioned turning down the max framerate, so I set com_maxFPS to 60 (same as my monitor refresh rate), and went ahead and turned all the graphics options to the highest possible quality. This seems to have decreased the frequency of crashes but did not solve the problem completely. Is this the correct variable? How low does it need to be set? Any word on whether these new drivers make the problem better or worse?

    PS - I have the Geforce FX 5200, but have seen reports with this happening with ATI cards as well.

  32. user friendly!! by Akimotos · · Score: 3, Funny

    For two days now, I have been trying to install the hot XP SP2 security update on my Powerbook running OS X. But without luck.

    But guess what? This update by Apple was just a matter of minutes.

    Phew!! Apple sure rules in the field of userfriendlyness...

  33. Anyone else seeing AirPort problems? by Yaztromo · · Score: 1

    Is anyone else seeing any AirPort Extreme problems with this new update? Since installing it I've been having some serious connectivity problems -- I'm sitting less than 20' away from my AirPort Extreme Base Station, and I keep losing connectivity every few minutes. Connectivity before the update was just fine.

    Anyone else seeing this?

    Yaz.

    1. Re:Anyone else seeing AirPort problems? by vocaro · · Score: 1

      FWIW, I've been using the Airport Express and haven't noticed any problems like that since installing 10.3.5. Trevor

    2. Re:Anyone else seeing AirPort problems? by Yaztromo · · Score: 1

      Thanks -- as it happens, shortly after posting I reset my AirPort Express Base Station, and my post 10.3.5 connectivity problems seem to have disappeared.

      I'll have to keep my eye on it, but things seem to be just fine post-reset. Thanks!

      Yaz.

    3. Re:Anyone else seeing AirPort problems? by schvoo · · Score: 1

      Well actually my connectivity has improved... I am using a Linksys gateway on a titanium powerbook.. so you can imagine what crappy reception I get.

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  34. Font Book by dynayellow · · Score: 1

    Looks like Font Book got some tweaks as well (I'm assuming that's the "font management" part of the fix).

    It no longer automatically closes a font set after you disable individual fonts within the set.

  35. Re:OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Prev by dnahelix · · Score: 1

    I've sent to several email addresses and used this page.
    This is a bug that screams in your face when it happens, I shouldn't have to scream in Apple's face. I've already spent way too much time on trying to alert Apple about this obvious error in it's desktop rendering. I love Apple, but in the past few years, I've felt like the guy who has to break up with someone because it's just not working out... they've changed. (The huge amounts of hardware failures makes me feel this way more than anything) It's very sad, it breaks my heart.

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  36. No problems with Comcast by kingLatency · · Score: 1

    I've had no such problems connecting to Comcast. I started subscribing about two years ago (before it was Comcast) and this is in the Boston area. When I first got the service, there were no problems. Then I got a router and after telling them the MAC address of the router, that worked fine, too. Do they have different set-up procedures for new customers or in other parts of the country?

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  37. Works Fine for Me by SteveM · · Score: 1

    I went into Photoshop and cropped a portrait image progressively smaller. Every icon looked just fine.

    I'm quite happy that all my portrait images have proper sized thumbnails!

    SteveM

  38. RAID changes by scruffyMark · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Looks like there might finally be RAID 5 in the works in OS X. No mention of it in any documentation I've seen, but (!!!) among the installed files with 10.3.5 are:
    • /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility.app/Contents/PlugIns/RAID.dumodule/(...)
    • /System/Library/Extensions/MegaRAID.kext/(...)
    • /usr/sbin/megaraid
    • /usr/share/man/man8/megaraid.8

    None of the megaraid stuff is in 10.3.4. The disk utility plugin was there, it's just been updated.

    The megaraid manpage seems to indicate support for RAID level 5; but the GUI in disk utility still only offers the old 0 and 1.

    So, does anyone know - does the megaraid command support more features than the kernel extension has available yet, or is it just that the GUI isn't there yet? Maybe they just don't put a GUI on it except in the server edition (sneaky buggers!) - anyone with OS X server out there that can check?

    And, in general - anyone out there with a bunch of blank disks they can play around with and see if they can make a RAID 5 set?

    If anyone has OS X server around, and if they're interested, these md5 sums are from the regular OS X; maybe we could compare results:

    807ecfca34f30598207553f1e4a15d28 /usr/sbin/megaraid
    8cc344ea9edce9138acf8803e267e3f6 /System/Library/Extensions/MegaRAID.kext/Contents/ MacOS/MegaRAID

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    1. Re:RAID changes by nacturation · · Score: 1

      The megaraid manpage seems to indicate support for RAID level 5; but the GUI in disk utility still only offers the old 0 and 1.

      Do you have 3 or more identical volumes to try it on?

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    2. Re:RAID changes by Onan · · Score: 1
      Uh, I think that just means that there are drivers and config software for the MegaRAID line of controllers.

      Entirely separate from the software raid support, which sanely only does 0 and 1. 5 is awfully slow even with dedicated hardware, and you really don't want to even think about it in software.

  39. isync v. 1.5 via software update... by kerbawya · · Score: 1

    anybody notice that isync went v1.5 and that it supports the new v710.. which i was told shows up in verizon stores tomorrow morning ?? maybe its just me.. but this is eventful...

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    1. Re:isync v. 1.5 via software update... by Yaztromo · · Score: 1

      I just downloaded this myself.

      Wasn't it iSync v1.5 that they promised at the WWDC they'd release the developers kit for? I'd love to be able to provide iSync access through the jSyncManager for syncing with iCal and Address Book, so I've eagerly been awaiting the iSync SDK.

      I don't see any mention of this on the ADC or the iSync homepage, so perhaps I just need to patient for a while longer :).

      Brad BARCLAY

  40. Re:OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Prev by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 1

    I haven't had many problems that Apple haven't been willing to fix (if it's a recognised fault, eg. the iBook logic board failures). But the reliabiliy of their overall systems probably rates higher than most PC manufacturers.

    That said, the best way to contact them about any sort of issues is their BugReporter. Their feedback pages and emailing them don't seem to do much more than to add your idea to the chain of others. If you know how to submit a good bug report, it's the only way to go.

  41. Re:OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Prev by dnahelix · · Score: 1

    eg. the iBook logic board failures
    That's only the newer iBook (Al)
    There are many people with Ti Books less than 2 years old with the same logic board problem, but it costs $1000 to fix.
    I just bought a G5 and damn if it's not the first time I've considered buying the extended warrenty.
    I also bought an air conditioner to keep it cooler.
    The company I used to work for was very Mac oriented (now busted up) Several coworkers had Ti Powerbooks, now the talk about how they never move them... WTF?! You pay thousands extra for a portable computer that's too fragile to be portable. Like I said, I love Macs and have been a customer for years. The last black powerbooks were, in my opinion, the best laptop apple has made, they are very sturdy and mine is still running (almost non-stop) for 3+ years. (I did upgrade the hard drive after 2 years, it was making a noise and I wanted bigger anyway)

    And more to the point of your response, I don't think it's my job to be Apple's QA department. If someone working for me in QA couldn't catch this obvious ERROR they'd be replaced.

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  42. Re:OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Prev by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 1

    That's only the newer iBook (Al)
    There are many people with Ti Books less than 2 years old with the same logic board problem, but it costs $1000 to fix


    If they're iBooks and are less than 2 years old then they should be covered by the program

    And more to the point of your response, I don't think it's my job to be Apple's QA department. If someone working for me in QA couldn't catch this obvious ERROR they'd be replaced.

    I'm not saying that you should be their QA department, but remember that what's obvious to one person, may not be to another (no matter what it is).

  43. I just checked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iSync 1.5 doesn't have support for Nokia 7610 either. I really hope I won't have to wait for Tiger to do something as simple as synchronizing my mobile phone.

  44. Re:OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Prev by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The Finder's 'Show Icon Preview' option is crap (like a lot of other things about Finder). I frequently deal with folders containing hundreds and even thousands of images (wrong - I am a wedding photographer).

    The Finder chugs along calculating all the previews from the 6Mpixel files. It is slow. Why doesn't it use any available JPEG preview to make the thumbnail? I don't know. Does it cache the results of its hard work? Yes but only temporarily. Tomorrow you will have to wait for 1000 thumbnails to be generated again. Boring. The Finder should: save the previews, or at least allow users to specify that they would like the previews saved; or save previews in an invisible .subfolder of the image folder; or save previews in the resource fork of each image (my preferred scheme). Save the f*c%king previews anywhere, just don't throw them away after spending 5 minutes generating them. I thought computers were supposed to minimise duplication of labour.

    In 10.3.x at least, use of the Preview option in folders with many images caused a bug. I don't know if it is still there. After previewing a large number of images and then closing all Finder windows, top would show that the Finder was eating up all available clock cycles. CPU usage for Finder would often read 80 or 90 per cent. This would go on indefinitely, and I am sure there are hundreds of machines out there now giving shit performance as a result, because the typical user will never spot this or fix it. The problem persists after a reboot. I learned to fix it by trashing Finder preferences (com.apple.Finder.plist) and not using the Finder's Icon Preview.

    There is a very good little free utility called Pic2Icon which generates previews and puts them where they should be, in the resource fork. You just drag a folder of images onto it and it gets on with the task. Unfortunately it doesn't use JPEG previews either, so it is still quite slow, but at least it allows you to avoid using the Finder's awful preview feature. It sometimes chokes if you drag a folder containing a few thousand 6Mpxl files, at least on my G4 800x2/512, but I think that's just memory shortage.

  45. Also new -- Java 1.4.2 Update 1 by Yaztromo · · Score: 1

    I just noticed on ADC that Apple has released yesterday (20040810) the final Java 1.4.2 Update 1 Developer Tools. Previous releases were "Developer Previews".

    I'm downloading it now (a 43.6MB download), and will try to post what's been fixeed since DP3 soon.

    Yaz.

  46. That looks right by scruffyMark · · Score: 1

    After a more detailed read through the manpage...

    mark@poppacrow:~ % megaraid -showadapter

    MEGARAID CLI version 1.0.12
    No MegaRAID Adapter Available

    yeah, that'll do it. Thanks for the info.

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  47. RAID info by mkiwi · · Score: 1
    MegaRAID is also the name of a family of LSI Logic hardware RAID cards for ultra160/320 SCSI hard drives. Many Mac users (including this one) have approached LSI Logic about making these cards apple-compatible.

    Apple already has an existing raid .kext, so the new one is very likely to be a driver for MegaRAID cards. I may have to get one if the performance tests look good :)

  48. Re:isync v. 1.5 and Motorola phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But it doesn't support bluetooth sync'ing with the Motorola V600 (or it seems, a long line of other newer Motorola phones). You're forced to buy the USB cable, so how is that a bluetooth improvement??

  49. Re:OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Prev by dnahelix · · Score: 1

    You didn't even read Apple's iBook return program, did you?
    It covers specific model numbers. It does not cover a computer by how old it is. Just because a computer has been owned for less than 2 years, does not mean it is a computer that was made less than 2 year ago. And as I said before (a lot of repeating myself with you) it is a Titanium laptop, not the new Aluminum laptop (which is in the model number range in Apple's return program)

    Also, to be redundant, a person working in QA needs to be one of those people that Big Screaming Bugs are obvious to.

    So, after all of your posting you have helped me 0%, I guess I should thank you for trying, but I'm won't.

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  50. Re:OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Prev by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 1

    You didn't even read Apple's iBook return program, did you?
    It covers specific model numbers. It does not cover a computer by how old it is. Just because a computer has been owned for less than 2 years, does not mean it is a computer that was made less than 2 year ago


    I did and I am very aware of that fact. However, the majority of iBooks made since late-2002 are amongst the model numbers covered by the replacement program.

    And as I said before (a lot of repeating myself with you) it is a Titanium laptop, not the new Aluminum laptop (which is in the model number range in Apple's return program)

    Are you talking about a PowerBook or an iBook? There is a slight difference!

    Also, to be redundant, a person working in QA needs to be one of those people that Big Screaming Bugs are obvious to.

    You obviously don't program for a living, or at least, don't do it very well.

  51. Java 1.4.2 Update 1 -- Crashes LavaLife IM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, yeah, laugh all you want. Safari worked fine with the LavaLife http://www.lavalife.com/ instant messenger pane before the update. Now it crashes immediately when you enter one of the three areas (where the IM pane becomes active). The crash reporter doesn't even get activated. The workaround for that is to turn off Java in Preferences. Unfortunately, the LL system won't log you out properly without Java, so you will appear as always logged on. Anyone know how to get back the older version?

  52. Re:OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Prev by dnahelix · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Are you talking about a PowerBook or an iBook? There is a slight difference!
    Yeah, one has a Titanium case and the other has an Aluminum case.

    You obviously don't program for a living, or at least, don't do it very well.
    Now you're just being an ass... I do program for a living, and make a lot of money doing it, and I have managers in different departments fighting over me, so fuck you and your snotty little comments. You are a fucking little tiny speck.

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  53. Re:OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Prev by dnahelix · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ... not to mention, after looking at your site of lame old blah blah blah, it appears you do everything by trial and error...

    fucked up the iBook install...
    cutting my hand...
    burning it...
    erased my keys...


    What a fucking dipshit moron!!!

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  54. Re:OS X Still Incorrectly Draws Portait Image Prev by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, one has a Titanium case and the other has an Aluminum case.

    No. The iBook has a semi-transparent, plastic (possibly acrylic) case. The PowerBook comes in two varieties - the older titanium and the newer Aluminium. The iBook was never made in metal (except for it's Magnesium frame).

    Now you're just being an ass...

    You get the same respect from me that you give to me. If you don't earn any respect, then you get none. Simple?

    You are a fucking little tiny speck.

    And what makes you any bigger than your ego?