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South Pole Research Station Hacked Twice

Marda writes "It's been known for a while that Romainian cyber extortionists cracked the computer network at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station last year. Now SecurityFocus is reporting that another computer intruder penetrated the station just two months before, and cracked the data acquisition system for the Degree Angular Scale Interferometer (DASI), a radiotelescope that measures properties of the cosmic microwave background. It turns out the station was insecure 'purposely, to allow for our scientists at this remotest of locations to exchange data under difficult circumstances,' according to internal reports."

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  1. Man, it's cold down here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why can't they just leave our unsecured network alone? Next we'll have to secure that WiFi network so the Australians stop leeching.

  2. ??????WTF?????? by Anubis350 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    insecure purposely? what about SSH? what about VPN? jesus, arent these scientist smart? cant they use some tools for that matter, cant someone creat a gui so the dont have to?
    this is the most riddiculous thing I've ever heard.

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    1. Re:??????WTF?????? by Anubis350 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      yeah, but VPN?
      besides, there are a lot of remote montiroing tools out there that use various forms of encryption. Leaving your network umprotected is just asking for trouble. For that matter, why is it news worthy if they get hacked then? after all, its already wide open

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    2. Re:??????WTF?????? by urlgrey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This has got to be among the all-time lamest excuses I've ever heard uttered.

      For Pete's sake HIRE A CONSULTANT or better yet ASK FOR VOLUNTEERS. I'm sure there are plenty of folks out there who'd LOVE to have something like this on their resume.

      C'mon. How about: we were cracked because we were lazy. Now that I'll buy--the first time.

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    3. Re:??????WTF?????? by xedx · · Score: 3, Informative

      fyi then. you can do ssh(server client) and vpn on Windows(TM)

    4. Re:??????WTF?????? by Hartree · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Sadly, this happens fairly often in research groups, and it's often hard to convince them to tighten things up. On the one hand, they say there's nothing commercially valuable on the machine, and that tightening security would lower productivity (usually false). On the other, they are often hard to convince that since much of the work and data is on the computers, they should have a good and tested backup system.

      Sooooo... They get cracked, and when they do, it causes major data loss and takes a long time to return the machines to full service as there are no recent backups. And somehow, it's the fault of the security type whose advice they ignored/derided.

      Been there, done that, wanted to strangle several research group leaders/members with the t-shirt.

    5. Re:??????WTF?????? by SEWilco · · Score: 5, Funny
      Dude, chill out ..

      South Pole. Chilled. Check.

    6. Re:??????WTF?????? by fireman+sam · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why is this a troll?

      It is a valid point. If you do not have the skills to do something, pay someone to do it. If you don't have the funds, ask for a volunteer.

      These people have screwed around with their system until the data transfer did what they wanted. What they didn't realize (I hope) is that they have opened up their system to these sorts of attacks.

      If business did this sort of thing, imagine what the web would be like now...

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    7. Re:??????WTF?????? by arivanov · · Score: 4, Informative

      You have not dealt with academentia from a system managements perspective I guess. If you had you would have heard the phrase: "I am a professor and you are not even a PhD, you will not tell me what to do".

      In btw, I am speaking out of experience here.

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    8. Re:??????WTF?????? by eclectro · · Score: 2, Funny

      arent these scientist smart?

      not if they are having 'brain freeze'

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    9. Re:??????WTF?????? by dargaud · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I'm sure there are plenty of folks out there who'd LOVE to have something like this on their resume.
      I have this on my resume [sysadmin and scientific software in Antarctica, along with much more]. But it apparently it doesn't impress employers, I spent 6 months looking for a job before opening my own small sofware business couple months ago. Yes, this is a shameless plug and should be moderated as so !
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    10. Re:??????WTF?????? by Bi()hazard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, of course not. If they could, they would be computer scientists, or hackers. Instead they are physicists.

      Exactly. Those of us immersed in the information technology world often have little or no exposure to the disciples of pure science. And undergraduate physics students don't count. Traditional scientists don't think the way IT people or even computer scientists do. We see a system, and the goal is to optimize that system to perform correctly and efficiently. Traditional scientists have no interest in applied technology. Their goal is to gather knowledge, and to hell with everything that gets in the way. Typing in a tough password, applying patches, and following "best practices" gets in the way.

      To make matters worse, these people are highly educated and are often the resident lords of their specialties. Academic types tend to have swollen egos. Poke something swollen, and it hurts-these guys will be pissed off if you try to tell them what to do, and more pissed off if what you're telling them to do doesn't clearly further their scientific goals. They simply don't take the computer security threat seriously, and they refuse to worry about it until they get burned.

      It's hard for you to understand rational people saying, "ha, who in their right mind would hack into our secret antarctic lab full of data?" But most slashdotters would have the same attitude towards other things they don't have experience with. How many of you fear the consequences of unsecured eyelash curlers? Yes, eyelash curlers, which so befuddle the opposite sex and are an essential in many ladies' makeup boxes double as a lethal instrument of pain and torture - as my best friend can testify.

      Last week as she was getting glammed up for a party she was trying to do 25 million things at once and not concentrating on any of them. What exactly happened though remains a bit of mystery-all I know is that moments after whatever did happen, she was screaming in pain, bruised and bleeding, with lashes no longer in lids but in the curlers. Suffice to say she shan't be using eyelash curlers ever, ever, ever, EVER again.

      She's not the only one who has been incapacitated as the result of a cosmetic catastrophe and it is actually more common than one would suppose. Another friend had a very unfortunate accident on the night of a May Ball last summer. She was rushing around straightening her hair, helping a friend with her makeup, making a phone call, and trying to decide which bag to take when she encountered the upturned business end of her electric hair straighteners. You could her the screams from across the street!

      So now you know! which is like half the battle. Trying to do your lashes can land you in the hospital, a fiendish fate not "faced" by hacker victims! Girls will always want their makeup but for our peace of mind and for the longevity of your eyelashes and more importantly, your eyesight, I implore you to throw away your eyelash curlers. They are veryvery dangerous.

      Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go wash up..this foundation doesn't cause cancer..right?

    11. Re:??????WTF?????? by zurab · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Those of us immersed in the information technology world often have little or no exposure to the disciples of pure science. And undergraduate physics students don't count. Traditional scientists don't think the way IT people or even computer scientists do. We see a system, and the goal is to optimize that system to perform correctly and efficiently. Traditional scientists have no interest in applied technology. Their goal is to gather knowledge, and to hell with everything that gets in the way. Typing in a tough password, applying patches, and following "best practices" gets in the way. ...
      But most slashdotters would have the same attitude towards other things they don't have experience with.

      I am not a car mechanic or an electrician, but if my car alarm and door locks stop working, I take it to a mechanic who can fix it. I don't park the car on public street at night where it may get stolen. The excuse that since they know and care little about security, they can skip it altogether, is - as others pointed out - lame. A computer network containing sensitive or important data connected to the Internet requires security, whether you are a 3-time Nobel prize laureate or a warehouse janitor.

      And as far as things that "get in the way" - security practices, or lack thereof - could easily get in the way of collecting and keeping valuable scientific data.
    12. Re:??????WTF?????? by bbuR_bbuB · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are a limited amount of people who may occupy the South Pole at any one time due to humans' impact on the environment down there. Why waste a bed on a sysadmin when you could have more important people doing more important work?

    13. Re:??????WTF?????? by rikkards · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They have a sysadmin there. His main priority is ensuring the email is up that's it.

    14. Re:??????WTF?????? by Fred_A · · Score: 5, Funny

      Great job...

      Mission : go to Antartica, maintain email services. Duration 6 months.

      Week 1 : upgrade and patch all machines.
      Week 2 : make snowman, look at machines, plat solitaire.
      Week 3 : blizzard, look at machines
      Week 4 : play solitaire, start drinking beer
      week 5 : remember about the pinball game, install pinball game play pinball
      week 6 : Got lost for 3 days in the blizzard when making a snowman
      week 7 : can't play pinball because of bitefrost bandages, drinking bourbon, watching blinkenlights on hub
      week 8 : poured bourbon in file server so I had something to fix, got scolded by director of base who saw me
      week 9 : tried drinking kerosene
      week 12 : woke up in infirmary when doctor was about to start autopsy
      It seems doctor had been smoking joints, asked him if he had any left
      week 13 : shagged a penguin. Finished last of bourbon
      week 14 : damn pengion follows me everywhere 11 more weeks to go. Found an AOL cd in the mailbox yesterday, no idea how it got there. ...

      Great job indeed. :)

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    15. Re:??????WTF?????? by gravytas · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I am not a car mechanic or an electrician, but if my car alarm and door locks stop working, I take it to a mechanic who can fix it.

      Clearly you're not a physicist. Most of the ones I've worked for, some of whom are also at the pole, are convinced that:
      since physics is one bad mamajama of a difficult subject, and as they've kicked that bad mamajama's ass, they are gods among men, seemingly privy to the unknown secrets of the universe.

      They hire IT people not because IT is too difficult for them to do on their own, but too mundane. Please don't make the mistake of telling them how things should be done.

    16. Re:??????WTF?????? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They hire IT people not because IT is too difficult for them to do on their own, but too mundane. Please don't make the mistake of telling them how things should be done.


      Which is quite true. Good physicists (and there are a number of pretty mediocre ones around, but you can usually spot the good ones) are just about the smartest and best educated people on the planet. If they had the time and inclination to learn, they'd be quite capable of doing the jobs of the IT people that they hire. Some of them know enough to do the job anyway, without extra training, but they're quite uncommon.

      Physicists don't expect to understand the details of every field - they'll hire, say, electronic engineers to produce a lot of the custom electronics required. They do expect, however, to sit down in a meeting with said engineers and understand the problems. They probably won't know in detail how to solve a particular problem, but they'll certainly recognise one, and know in general terms what needs to be done to fix it.

      That's the way to have a successful interaction between smart physicists and IT types. If you, as an IT type, present the technical issues, point out the problems, and describe a way of doing things better, which still allows physicists to get the work done the way they want to work, you'll do well.

      If you don't have a deep understanding of the systems that you manage, however (stand up, 95% of windows "admins") or tend to deliver arbitrary diktats on the grounds of "security", you'll be basically ignored.

      Some of the non-negotiable requirements of physicists are: 1. The ability to connect to your home institution from some random computer anywhere in the world and get work done. Basically, that means ssh. 2. The ability to get mail from absolutely anywhere. That means a terminal-based mail client with ssh, and also some kind of webmail. 3. The ability to have any bit of software or hardware installed if they're needed for work. That oscilloscope running windows? No, I'm not going to stop taking data for a morning whilst you upgrade it. You can put it on a private network (as long as it's still accessible from the main group computers) but you can't unplug it or reboot it in the middle of an experiment. If I need to share data with people from half a dozen other institutions, you'd better make that possible (probably by giving them accounts on our computer systems. If you don't have an administrative way of giving computer accounts to non-employees without a lot of paperwork, you'd better get one. The upper limit on paperwork is roughly one signature on one bit of paper.)

    17. Re:??????WTF?????? by dargaud · · Score: 2, Insightful
      it wouldn't work in your favor that your resume is a Word file
      Well, you are a bit naive if you think HR depts take anything else than Word files...
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  3. burn karma burn! by bakeacake · · Score: 4, Funny

    all your base belong to us!

    1. Re:burn karma burn! by noselasd · · Score: 2, Informative

      Get it right next time;
      "all your base are belong to us".
      See here for the origin of that phrase.

  4. Penguin hack party by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Must be the penguins out tehre.

  5. Hacking those harmless scientists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's cold, man... that's cold!

  6. FP! Almost... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I almost had FP, but the latency out here on the south pole is horrible.

  7. Bah! by B3ryllium · · Score: 3, Funny

    Purposefully insecure? That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. And I've heard it often. :)

    There must be SOME technology (VPNs, as previously mentioned, perhaps) that can make it both easy and secure?

    Heck, if they'll buy me the books and fly me down there, I'll fix it myself.

    1. Re:Bah! by spudgun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      has anyone here on /. considered that it might be a link which goes up and down alot ?

      have you seen what happens when your encrypted link keeps dropping ....

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  8. This is disgusting behavior by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some people are just plain jerks. Sure, I want to know if my financial information is safe. But why should hackers take the time to bother scientific equipment?

    I can just see it now. A buoy in the ocean with millions of dollars in scientific instruments and sensors, collecting data for good of all mankind. Then some hacker finds his way in through the radio connection and manages to burn out or blow up the equipment by playing with the settings. His excuse? "See! It should have been secure! Next time you'll know better!" Way to miss the point, jack.

    1. Re:This is disgusting behavior by DramaGeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They'll do it because it's a fairly good target. It's one-of-a kind, and hacking it got them at least an article at Securityfocus and a mention here. Sure, they don't really gain anything from it, but since when has that been a requirement of hacking?

    2. Re:This is disgusting behavior by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And I hope the law throws the *#@$ing book at them! It's all very funny until someone is seriously hurt by this type of hacking. "Oh, hah, hah! I broke their toy! They've got lots of money! No biggie!" That sort of thinking is absolute bull. Scientists have to work VERY hard to secure funds for their endevours. It can take literally YEARS to secure the funding for a SINGLE project! If they've built something that costs 1 million, you can bet that they only had money enough to build ONE.

      The worst part is that the scientist is doing it so that that jack*$$ who broke his system has new technologies and knowledge available to him! Yet this punk goes around trashing other people's stuff because it makes him "hip and cool", and he's "doing the scientists a favor by testing their systems". He has NO F###ING CLUE what kind of conditions this equipment has to operate under!

      Take the South Pole station in the article. They only get unreliable and intermittent Internet access from retired satellites that have had their orbits moved to support the South Pole! Only a FEW HOURS A DAY! And some hacker kid vandalizes them for trying to get work done.

    3. Re:This is disgusting behavior by Short+Circuit · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's all very funny until someone is seriously hurt by this type of hacking.

      A very real threat. In the 80s, Cliff Stoll watched a guy relay from his system into a machine called PETVAX. At the time, that machine controlled the output of a radioactive particle emitter. Specifically, it controlled whether it was routed to a medical patient or a science experiment.

      Read Cuckoo's Egg.

    4. Re:This is disgusting behavior by Draknor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Scientists have to work VERY hard to secure funds for their endevours. It can take literally YEARS to secure the funding for a SINGLE project! If they've built something that costs 1 million, you can bet that they only had money enough to build ONE.

      I hate to say it, but then the scientists need to find someone WITH A COMPUTER SECURITY CLUE!

      I don't expect physicists to know how to secure a network. But I would expect that, if they are dealing with precious data and networks, that they would hire or find volunteers to help protect that data. Too bad it doesn't sound like that's the case.

    5. Re:This is disgusting behavior by Cliff+Stoll · · Score: 2, Insightful

      True. And sad.

      -Cliff

  9. Now we know.... by strredwolf · · Score: 4, Funny

    that pure blocks of ice a firewall does not make.

    Come on, physical location means nothing now!!!

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  10. Re:So uh... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 3, Funny

    In a computer sense, or in a pristine wilderness sense?

    If the latter, then I'd like to point out that there's a great deal we can learn about the Earth's climate and biological history, as well as contained ecosystems. (Lakes under the ice with more than just bacteria? Who knew there'd be enough O2 for animal life?)

    If the former, well, you know those haxxor guys...

  11. Back In The Day... by cjsnell · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There used to be a machine at McMurdo Station called mcmvax.mcmurdo.gov. I remember back in, oh, 1994 or so, sending finger requests to their machine and using the VMS equivalent of talk(1) (can't remember what it was called...) to send text messages to the folks logged on. I don't remember ever getting a response, though. It was also kind of fun to do traceroutes and pings to the machine. The network path was insane...apparently it went over satellite and the latency was usually at least 800ms+. Ah, memories...I miss the days when almost everyone ran open finger and talk/ntalk daemons.

    1. Re:Back In The Day... by eamonman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When I was a frosh in college in 1995, I would ytalk/talk with my friends at other colleges all the time. MIT, Caltech, Northwestern, UC schools; all were open. I even had a login script to let me know who of my friends were on. I guess it was evanecent in some way. It was also really cool to get talk requests from people all around the world, wondering how you are, how things are in your bit of the world.

      Within four years, those ports were all shut down. Of course, we all had ICQ and AIM by then, but it's not the same as watching someone type r-e-a-l-l-y s-l-o-w-e-r-^H^H-l-y and finishing their sentences for them.

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    2. Re:Back In The Day... by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Funny

      back in, oh, 1994 or so, sending finger requests to their machine and using the VMS equivalent of talk(1) (can't remember what it was called...) to send text messages to the folks logged on. I don't remember ever getting a response, though. It was also kind of fun to do traceroutes and pings to the machine. The network path was insane...apparently it went over satellite

      So, you were one of those guys? Where you the one who told all his friends about us? Back then we only had a 64bps (yes, that's right 64bps not 64kbps) link and it was always getting clogged up with tourists trying to check out our machine and see who was on. Lots of kids sending us silly "phone" requests, for a couple of months there nobody could get any work done at all. Thanks a lot dude!

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  12. Hacks Could Cost the Scientists' Lives by p0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    How difficult are we actually talking about here? As far as I know, an international battle frontline can be the most difficult circumstance for system administrators to work in. But again, the military networks are the most secure. Needles to say, the hackers should know that destroying computer networks in an isolated place such as the Antartica could even go to the extent of costing lives, and it is high time the Amunden-Scot admins secured their networks.

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  13. It's a different field of knowledge. by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Scientists are generally knowledgable, but only in their field of specialization. You don't expect a particle physicist to know about macro biology, and you don't expect an ornithologist to know about particle physics.

    Computer security is another one of those fields that requires its own study time to be competent in, and most people aren't interested or don't want to spend the time.

  14. Eric S. Raymond Vocabulary Enforcement by duffbeer703 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hackers are harmless dorks. Crackers are the evil ones. Learn the difference

    http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/

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    1. Re:Eric S. Raymond Vocabulary Enforcement by CaptnMArk · · Score: 3, Funny

      You'll never be a real hacker with that opinion.

    2. Re:Eric S. Raymond Vocabulary Enforcement by Mashiki · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The rest of the world has already made up it's mind. It's an uphill battle compared to a downhill one, you know which one will be easier.

      At this point it's a lost cause. Hackers, for good or ill are so vilified in the MSM(Main Stream Media) that once it(the MSM) collapses we'll have a chance to redeem ourselves. Until that happens, we have to put up with fuck-wits like those that are going to hit the RNC convention blocking out "freedom of expression" and ruin the name.

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  15. On purpose for a reason... by Q-Hack! · · Score: 5, Informative

    The main reason for running unsecure, is that the data pipe running to the South Pole is only open for just a few seconds at a time. You have to be able to transfer your data packet in little bitty windows of opportunity. If you have your data packaged in nice large security packets it will take forever to transfer your files, if at all. As soon as they come up with a better way to communicate with those stations I think they will be the first to secure there data.

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    1. Re:On purpose for a reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because if you had some brain you'd figure out that geosync orbit has to be straight above the equator.

    2. Re:On purpose for a reason... by Phil+Karn · · Score: 4, Informative
      It is not possible to put a geostationary satellite over a pole. To be stationary, a satellite must be in a circular orbit over the equator with a period that exactly matches the earth's sidereal rotation rate. Such satellites are not visible at all from the poles.

      It is possible, however, to use inclined orbits to provide good coverage at high latitudes, including the poles. You'll need multiple satellites to provide continuous coverage, though. It's my understanding that the South Pole links use retired geostationary satellites that have run out of stationkeeping propellant. Without stationkeeping, solar and lunar perturbations increase the orbital inclination, the angle between the orbital plane and the equator, which is nominally zero for a geostationary satellite. This causes the satellite to move in a north-south figure-8 pattern, making it visible for part of each day at each pole.

      Two good examples of satellites in orbits specifically designed to provide good high latitude coverage are the Russian Molniya series and the new Sirius digital radio broadcasting satellites. (Sirius' competitor XM Radio uses conventional geostationary satellite orbits.)

      Both Molniya and Sirius use elliptical orbits with inclinations of about 63 degrees. At this inclination, the effect of the earth's oblateness on the orbital argument of perigee is canceled out. That means the apogee (farthest point from the earth) will always occur at the same latitude, which in these two cases is selected to be the northernmost point of the orbit (since northern latitudes are being served). The result is a satellite that, while not stationary, spends much of each orbit nearly motionless at high latitude.

      The Molniya and Sirius orbits differ in that the Molniya orbits have fairly low perigees and orbital periods of about 12 hours. The Sirius satellites are in geosynchronous (but not geostationary) orbits, meaning that even though they do not sit motionless over the equator, they still complete exactly one orbit per sidereal earth day.

      The Russians use these orbits because their country sits at high latitudes. Sirius uses their orbits to increase the elevation at which their satellites appear over the northern US and southern Canada, minimizing blockage by buildings and reducing the number of terrestrial repeaters needed in urban areas.

      A Sirius orbit can be seen here and a Molniya orbit can be seen here.

  16. You Insensitive Clod! by p0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    CowboyNeal! You have just slashdotted an insecure server running the lifeline of dedicated scientists, far far away in Antartica! You insensitive clod!

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  17. Re:So uh... by cranos · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hate to break it to you but, Antartica has been split between half a dozen nations for a long time now, Australia in fact claims the largest chunk.

  18. Please help out by penguinoid · · Score: 3, Funny

    Would some Slashdotter with some spare time please hack their network and install SSH and a firewall? Thanks!

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  19. They should have used a Mac on the South Pole by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 2, Funny
    That would have solved two problems:

    1. They wouldn't have been 0wn3d so easily
    2. It would keep them toasty warm!

  20. Put it in perspective... by riptide_dot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    FTA:

    "Given the fact that no financial records or systems were compromised, no safety or loss of life was threatened, and no critical system corrupted, we need to balance legitimate security needs with the legitimate needs of our scientists at the Pole," the memo reads.

    ...Other documents show that less than two months earlier the NSF's security team was plunged into a similar fire drill when a computer intruder named "PoizonB0x" penetrated the primary and backup data acquisition servers for a radio telescope at the station called the Degree Angular Scale Interferometer (DASI), which measures properties of the cosmic microwave background radiation -- the afterglow of the Big Bang. The intruder, rated a prolific website defacer by tracking site Zone-H, used his moment of cosmic access to erect a webpage on the servers proclaiming, "I love my angel Laura."


    Now, I'm not one for people snooping around in my stuff when they're not invited or anything, but consider this: The first hack modified a web page on a system that collects monitoring data (but most likely does not contain other meaningful data, like formulas), and the second intruder accessed no financial data, did not threaten safety, and did not corrupt any critical systems.

    Isn't it possible that the systems that were compromised were actually left insecure, not necessarily "on purpose", but because they felt that there wasn't much of a need to secure them in the first place? They probably calculated the possible risks and decided that, if both systems did in fact only contain informational webpages or data collected from their equipment, that there wasn't much point in worrying a lot about securing them (after all, who would really care about the data besides them?).

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    1. Re:Put it in perspective... by jcasey · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Given the fact that no financial records or systems were compromised, no safety or loss of life was threatened, and no critical system corrupted, we need to balance legitimate security needs with the legitimate needs of our scientists at the Pole,"

      We need to take three big steps back and look at the forrest as a whole. Systems are frequently compromised for indirect gains. Ie. A compromised system can be used as a "diving board" - to access other systems that the attacker may not otherwise have access to. This exposes the organization that owns the system to additional "RISK". If an attacker compromises your system, and uses it to launch a damaging attack against another system, the finger will point at YOU until you or someone else can prove that your system was just a pawn. IANAL but I would imagine that the owner of the compromised system could be subject to legal action for neglecting to secure their system in the first place.

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  21. Leave your front door open on the internet.... by syousef · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...and expect to get net burgaled. Really is that simple. Regardless of the technical or budgetary constraints that's the way it is. The internet is a nice borderless place and even if everyone at your base station is nice and honest, that doesn't mean there aren't criminals within reach of your data.

    The correct way to deal with this is to have a DMZ - a nice public facing internet machine that isn't as security critical as your primary experiment instrument. This may mean a compromise in terms of budget and/or data availability.

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  22. Re:Very usefull data by WindBourne · · Score: 2, Informative
    1. the main system that was cracked was life support. Not a good thing.
    2. Not everything is what it appears to be. Much of the DOD work is done out in the open under "civilian" contracts ( think DARPA). Also, think about Iraq and the WMD search and why did the admin insist that the universities be searched first, prior to even going after any Iraqi government installation.
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  23. You gotta wonder... by grcumb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As someone who's set up Internet servers in the high Arctic and who quite recently found himself posting 'I'm still alive' updates to my blog as the remote South Pacific island I was on was being battered by a hurricane, I STILL made sure to use ssh/ssl to connect to remote servers.

    I was dialed in over a microwave link running at about 10Kbps. Even pathetic bandwidth is no excuse not to use simple security measures.

    P.S. I'm posting from yet another Pacific Island, where I regularly use an ssh tunnel to connect to my home IMAP server, over a modem line that I share with 12 other computers on our local network.

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    1. Re:You gotta wonder... by dave420 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Low bandwidth is no excuse, but intermittent bandwidth is. If the link is only open for a very brief period of time, you could very well waste all that time establishing an SSH connection or VPN. By the time you came to securely download your data, the link is already closed and won't be back up for ages.

      It's unsecured through necessity, not through choice.

    2. Re:You gotta wonder... by saiha · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the transmission time is what is vital, then have it go through a proxy system which is only unsecured on the one end. Then locally it goes through sanity checks and any unsafe or strange actions are flagged. If no computer speciallists are availible then a scientist can go through a predefined process to resolve the difficulty.

      I know the scientists would rather work on their research but they are living in the 21st century just like the rest of us and security is a concern. If the hacking was important enough to involve the FBI then it is important enough to protect with at least the minimal amount of security.

    3. Re:You gotta wonder... by isorox · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Fine, have the unsecured link over the link, but have it secured at the northern end. The only way to access the link would be to use VPN or ssh to the machine at the uplink place.

  24. Here's a view from the pole by Raetsel · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just found Big Dead Place a couple days ago, and read their account of one of these 'hacker attacks' and Raytheon Polar Services' (RPSC) reaction to it.

    Short version: Everyone at the pole was pissed. Denver (RPSC headquarters) took away their porn^H^H^H^Hnet access, and thus made a bunch of already deprived individuals even more deprived.

    There's a ~500 K newsletter-spoof PDF on the site that expresses some of their feelings.

    • "Kudos to the Denver IT staff for quickly responding to a hacker attack on South Pole Station. The attack occurred Friday night Denver time and our crack professional team denied the attacker access by immediately pulling the plug on Pole. They got back to dealing with the aftermath of this knee jerk response sometime Wednesday shortly after the last chocolate sprinkle donut had been eaten but shortly before nap time."
    There's also: Top Ten Reasons South Pole Can't Access the Internet

    Some other interesting things on the site:

    • Raytheon says Antarctica is a 'foreign nation' for purposes of the Fair Labor Standards Act (overtime) and OSHA (asbestos exposure, etc.)

    • However... the IRS considers wages earned while working there the same as if they'd been earned inside the US.

    • Some people working there question whether or not the US Constitution applies (specifically the First Ammendment)

    • The whole bit about the Symmes Antarctic Intelligencer

    • Frontierwatch is a terrifically Dilbert-esque look into the day-to-day goings-on at the Pole.
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  25. slashdotters don't have a fucking clue, as usual by maxpublic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Amundsen-Scott station is very expensive to maintain. During the winter the entire base population can be as low as 17 individuals; this can increase significantly during a few months out of the summer, but with cuts in funding the total personnel at the station remains low.

    The station is designed for one thing: scientific research. With that in mind, the people you send to the station are those capable of doing the research, or those that are capable of maintaining the station so that others can do their research. Most of the folks there are conversant in a half-dozen jobs - *because they have to be*. There isn't enough funding for critical positions, much less a position like 'computer network administrator' which is nothing more than dead weight 99% of the time. A person who, if they can't also fix tractor engines, maintain the fuel-based heating system, and help calibrate various pieces of astronomical equipment, is nothing more than a waste of space, food, and energy.

    No doubt the Amundsen-Scott folks decided to do business 'as usual', e.g., in a not very secure manner, because a) who the hell would want to hack the system when there's nothing to gain?, and b) there isn't anyone there who's life work is system security.

    (In fact, I'm willing to bet they *could* secure the system in a decent manner, but never saw the point of it since they couldn't conceive of why anyone would want to mess with it in the first place. Frankly, I can't either; it takes a real jack-off to do something like this.)

    All those clueless gits out there who scream "they should have a network administrator!" might want to keep in mind that a network administrator isn't worth his weight in fuel to ship out there, much less keep around during the eight months of the year they're pretty much cut off from the outside world. And yes, that means *you*; if all you know is network administration/security then you're useless waste of good oxygen at Amundsen-Scott, and the people there neither want or need you cluttering up the cramped base, eating their food and using their heat.

    Max

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  26. The real link... by Unnngh! · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...is, of course, here.

  27. Antarctic Bees by uberdave · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ah! So maybe they are South Pole honeypots then. Put up some non-secure machines with interesting data, and let the script kiddies think they've hacked the south pole, when in reality the real machines are nice and safe.

  28. Security is against scientific spirit! by Reservoir+Penguin · · Score: 3, Informative


    Remember, RMS was against introducing passwords into the MIT AI lab, and when they eventually did it he sabotaged the system buy coercing users to choose a blank password. He even brags about it in the Revolution OS documentary.

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    1. Re:Security is against scientific spirit! by saiha · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmm, I haven't seen this documentary but there is a difference between sharing scientific knowledge (read access) and modifying that information with disreguard to authority (read/write access).

      I don't think a researcher would appreciate it if another, even a scientist, updated the research without the approval of the researcher. Reading that same information and giving feedback however, is different.

  29. Ease of use != Insecure by losttoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ease of use does not mean it has to be insecure!! Strong passwords and patched applications do not make usage difficult!!

    1. Re:Ease of use != Insecure by Mika_Lindman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ease of use does not mean it has to be insecure!! Strong passwords and patched applications do not make usage difficult!!

      Complex things require complex computer systems. Complex computer systems are complex to keep secure, more so when you need to maintain some kind of level of usability.

  30. Makes perfect sense, from their perspective by fejes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seriously, if you're setting up a network for a long term project, you set it up once, and move it all over there with everythig ready to go... (which means the Amundsun base might have been permanently been stuck with a network of 386's, had things worked that way.) Of course, my guess is that the computers wandered over there one at a time, with no coordinated plan - and no through beyond "we need a few computers, which people in the states need access too, located at the south pole!)

    The key issue is that if an academic is given a computer, they're not going to have the faintest idea of what's required security wise. [In fact, I've seen academics go out and buy really big (30") screens and fancy macintoshs just to run email and a browser, if that gives you an idea of the mindset of many in the scientific community.] - and other than the penguins (who only work for herrings and probably don't want to pay tax), there aren't any "neighborhood geeks" nearby to help them with their machines.

    I just spent two years in a science laboratory in North America at a VERY large institution. Of the two hundred or so scientists in that department alone, maybe ten or fifteen knew enough about computers to write HTML - and probably not a lot further. As the department evolved over time, computers were added in one at a time, by whom ever felt like putting in a computer. Thus, there wasn't a single coordinated plan , and some of the computers were left completely vulnerable intentionally! If there's no one in charge, no structure to coordinate the addition of computers, and no one able to make the decisions to put an infrastructure in place, there's no one to insist on security standards. Can you say welcome mat to hackers?

    I'd be willing to bet that that's exactly what happened at the South Pole. Someone decided they wanted to be able to share files with another scientist, and I'd doubt either had ever heard of SSH. Net result: they intentionally put a hole in the flimsy security they had to begin with. I can imagine the thought process: "I need to share a file with someone 30000km away.. lets just create an annonymous ftp to c:\, that way I won't have to worry about them not having access to anything they need!"

    Finally, the key point is that if you have computers at the south pole, it's going to cost an exorbitant amount to send someone out to mantain them, and the only alternative is to have the scientists call "tech support" back in the states (or is india closer?), which is probably like talking my father through a computer problem. It's bad enough when you're there, but 100x worse when you're at opposite ends of the country. Of course, if you leave a few "holes" open intentionally, someone back home can log in and maintain it for you. (-;

    Sorry for the overlong rant!

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  31. Inevitable William Gibson reference... by GrahamCox · · Score: 2, Funny

    What they need is more ICE!

  32. Cold Computers by john_smith_45678 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is "cracking" cold computers easier (like ice)?

  33. It's not cracking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can you really call it "cracking" if there was no security in the first place?

    It's like in Fahrenheit 9/11 where the cops "infiltrate" the peace group whose membership is, uh, open to the public.

  34. Re:slashdotters don't have a fucking clue, as usua by NerveGas · · Score: 2, Insightful


    It's easy to say the words "remote access", isn't it?

    Call your local provider, ask them about getting a line to the South Pole. Keep calling until you find someone who can provide it. Once you do, ask them how much it will cost. Now, calculate how many slaves you'd have to keep working in full-time positions to be able to afford any decent amount of bandwidth.

    steve

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  35. Re:Spelling.... by pdamoc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With the risk of being OT here, the situation is rather simple. Think of the news as one giant magnifying glass. When a .ro cracker breaks and steals something news break and "Romanians did it again". There is no such thing as a cracking hype in my country but the news make the association between Romanians and cracking look so BIG, so strong, so people stop thinking that this might be just some poor smuck trying to get ahead in a country where people like my mom earn something like 100$ after 30 years of public service. This kind of crackers are present everywhere. Ok some of the .ro crackers were ingenious enough to crack some pretty tight servers but this doesn't justify generalizing.

    People should STOP thinking that the world is black and white and START seeing the shades of gray. Good and Evil are in each and every one of us and the side the people see is often highly dependent on the angle of view.

    Here is an example: Is Nicolae Paulescu EVIL or GOOD? If he is EVIL will you kill him if you have the chance to go back in time, if he is GOOD how come that he is such an anonymous considering what he has done for humanity?

  36. Re:slashdotters don't have a fucking clue, as usua by Mika_Lindman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If they are smart enough to use packet or satellite, then they can use BSD or Linux.

    Many measurement devices don't have required software ported for [insert your *nix].

    OOo doesn't have the same capabilities as Excel, essential in many enviroments.

    And who is going to pay for porting that Excel/VBA/Access/MS SQL/etc stuff to BSD/Linux?

  37. Re:slashdotters don't have a fucking clue, as usua by maxpublic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What is the cost of replacing a trashed system?

    RTFA. The system wasn't trashed. Very little was done to it.

    How much does downtime cost you?

    Considering that they only have communication access to the outside world for a few hours a day, very little.

    What does it cost to get someone to your site to fix your system?

    When the fuel could be used to ship needed equipment, food, or just used for heating, a whole hell of a lot.

    What POTENTIAL expenses/risks do you face if someone uses your equipment to do damage to another site.

    Considering the equipment on-base and the very limited daily access, this amounts to a big, fat zero. Or did you think they had cable?

    People that have heard you rant about how "worthless" sys admins are start to wonder how credible the rest of your statements are.

    A system administrator IS worthless at Amundsen-Scott, compared to a mechanic, a scientist, or an electrician. Do a bit of research on the subject before talking out of your ass.

    Max

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  38. RTFA. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    RTFA. The life support systems weren't controlled by the hacked system. That was added by the US department of propaganda to make the threat of cyber-terrorism sound scarier.

  39. sequence of events by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 2, Funny


    (5:30am South Pole)

    Bob:"Mornin' Joe"
    Joe:"Hey Bob"
    Bob:"I think I froze my ass last night. Did we get those new heaters in last night?"
    Joe:"I Don't know. I heard a plane, but I think it was that horses-ass Lumbergh with the corporate jet dropping by again."
    Bob:"What a prick."
    Bob:"Would you hurry up and get that coffee made?"
    Joe:"Chill dude, my fingers are half friggin froze too."
    Bob:"Any new stuff on the schedule this morning from Corporate Overlord ?"
    Joe:"Heh.. you mean Massuh?"
    Bob:"*lol*"
    Joe:"Nah, just more bitching and whining about budget cuts.. insurance cuts.. pay cuts.."
    Joe:"..oh, and that hottie from accounting sent you email."
    Bob:"No shit!? What did she say?"
    Joe:"...Here, check it out" (passes laptop to Bob)
    Bob:"....Click here, huh?..."
    Joe:"....what the hell?" (hard drive churning sounds)
    Bob:"oops...shit.." (hard drive really churning)
    Joe:"Hit the power, dude!!"
    Bob:"I am! I gotta hold that fucking switch for 5 seconds"
    Joe:"Pull the power cord!"
    Bob:"aw shit.. batteries!"
    Joe:(knocks over hot coffee)
    Bob:"Oww!...coffee's finally hot.."
    Joe:"Dammit.. anyone see you come in here?"
    Bob:"No, I don't think so."
    Joe:"Wow look at that telescope spin!"
    Bob:"I didn't know it could revolve that fast!"
    Joe:"It can't!"
    Joe:"Hit that friggin screensaver and lets bail!"
    *click*
    *panicked rustling sounds*
    *hurried footsteps fade out*

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  40. bad summary of the article by kirkjobsluder · · Score: 2, Informative
    Why link to a great article on the web if you are not going to provide an accurate summary?

    The point of the securityfocus.com article was not "South Pole Research Station Hacked Twice", but that the US DoJ has used this as a spin campaign to justify the cyberterrorism provisions of the patriot act.

    "The hacked computer ... controlled the life support systems for the South Pole Station that housed 50 scientists 'wintering over' during the South Pole's most dangerous season," reads the Justice Department report. "Due in part to the quick response allowed by [the USA Patriot Act], FBI agents were able to close the case quickly with the suspects' arrest before any harm was done to the South Pole Research Station."


    However, the FBI and DoJ's version of events is contradicted by the NSF internal assessment of the attack...

    And as described in the memo, released as a partially-redacted draft, the incident was something less than a cyber terror attack to begin with, and prompted a measured response from network administrators. "Given the fact that no financial records or systems were compromised, no safety or loss of life was threatened, and no critical system corrupted, we need to balance legitimate security needs with the legitimate needs of our scientists at the Pole," the memo reads.


    The previous security problems at the South Pole appears in the second to last paragraph as support for the claim that the attack was not threatening to life support at Amudsen-Scott.
  41. WARNING TO HAXOR5! by spineboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA ^H^H^H^H^H the south pole
    ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS^H^H^H^H^H^H^H pwnings THERE

    -the black obelisk

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  42. No,no,no,no. by Gannoc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Romainian cyber extortionists

    Look, here's some free advice. If you want to make people care about the problem, you need to call them "cyber-TERRORISTS".

    Many people don't know what extortion really means, but they know that terrorists can hurt their children.

    Geez, its a good thing you guys are mostly libertarian/democrat/green, because you'd make crappy republicans.

  43. All your base.. by GuyinVA · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Never mind

  44. Stupidity cust both ways - why no head on a pike? by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While I agree that it's nuts to trust an open system on the internet these days (though it should not be!), there are plenty of folks out there (including brilliant scientists) who still don't realize the danger. It's too bad nobody with a clue had some oversight.

    OTOH, I think this would be a great rallying point to bring together a multinational task force, or at least some headhunters under public sanction, to start going after the scum who screw people over on their networks. It's against the law for me to break into your house. If I do this, I'm liable to go to jail and/or pay a fine. IN a rational society I would also be liable to pay restitution, but that's another story.

    If I break into your house and destroy everything you own, I'm liable for big trouble. If, in the process, I do things which could endanger you, I'm liable for bigger trouble.

    Why isn't this true for computers and networks?

  45. Hacked or Cracked? by runswithd6s · · Score: 3, Informative

    You know. I'm disappointed that /. would get this wrong. Although the content of this topic has it right, why would you then title it with "hacked" instead of "cracked"? Of all places, /. should be setting the bar by using correct terminology.

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