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Most Fun Way to Leave a Bad Job?

medscaper asks: "I have an awesome opportunity this morning. Since the market is opening up, I was offered a great new tech job over the weekend, and have been stuck in a miserable one for the past several years. I spend more time stressing out and anxious about keeping my job than getting any quality work done. I'm SO looking forward to walking into my boss's office this morning to let him know that I'll be leaving. I'm tempted to do it with style, especially because I got a (completely unwarranted) PHB-style threatening lecture last week about my work habits. I really don't need the recommendation or a reference, so it doesn't matter much how I leave. Should I politely give the standard 2-weeks? Or should I have a little fun with it and burn some bridges? Anyone have any stories to relate?"

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  1. Leave the Fight Club way by Crazy+Ukrainian · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fight your boss, or better yet, if he has a 'private' office, kick the shit out of yourself and make him call security, and make it look like he beat you when you told him you'd be leaving.

    1. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Directrix1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, you could do that. Or you could go a step further and: replace everyone's desktop with a bitmap image of their desktop (of course I like to make a batch file that runs at startup and just continuously renames the desktop so icons disappear and reappear), sign up the companys mailing lists to as many spam lists as you can find, jam pencil leads in the dollar slot of the vending machines, wd-40 his break pads, leave sexually harassing notes for your coworkers from your boss, and eat all the good donuts in the breakroom. Of course if you had a single neuron in that skull of yours you would not have the audacity to assume that you're new job is going to work out. Assume for just one moment that maybe having options to fall back on is a good thing. Now quit posting to slashdot and decide something for yourself. I think you know the answer already.

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    2. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Welcome to Slashdot! Any time you need to come back here use keyword "slashdot". Your AOL account will not be charged extra.

    3. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by PerspexAvenger · · Score: 2, Informative

      KY Jelly

      It's a sex lube, among other things.

    4. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by MrResistor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Of course if you had a single neuron in that skull of yours you would not have the audacity to assume that you're new job is going to work out. Assume for just one moment that maybe having options to fall back on is a good thing.

      I couldn't agree more. Even if you don't need the reference for this new job, most prospective employers want to be able to contact at least your last 2 or 3 employers, and it's not unusual for companies to ask for a complete work history going back as far as 7-10 years, with non-working time accounted for.

      Thinking you don't need the reference is, at best, naive.

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    5. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by a_ghostwheel · · Score: 3, Informative

      This (work safe) will satisfy your curiosity. Just stare long enough on the picture.

    6. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Unlimited+Carrots · · Score: 2, Informative

      Maybe I should have tried that when quitting my last job, I left because management was fucking the staff (literally, might I add) and burned out hell of a bridge when I left. Which, sadly, bit me in the ass in a serious fashion when I tried to get another job, as the bastards told everyone that I had no work ethic, the IQ of a houseplant, and God only knows what else. Now I can only get hired by people who are either desperate or are so distracted by my breasts that they'd hire me for ANYTHING, so long as they had me close enough to leave pupil prints on the front of my clothing.

  2. Just leave by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Tell nicely them you're leaving in two weeks, and they'll likely escort you out NOW. As you are leaving, tell them you are available for two weeks at $200/hr (for any part of an hour) to answer any questions.

    Tell them you need to be paid in adavance.

    Good luck in your new job.

    1. Re:Just leave by DZign · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's the easy solution..

      As others posted, don't anything they can call the police for.
      About burning bridges, think well what you do and how you bring it. You can burn bridges but make it sound as if it's not your fault, try to make it their fault that you don't want to work for them anymore.

      You can be creative about the way you're going to tell your boss. You don't have to say you've found a new job. So as far as your boss knows, there can be another reason to leave your job, like that threatening lecture you speak about.

      It depends on who you are but you can use this in many ways. Just go to him and say you've thought about what he said then and you find it unfair and therefor don't want to work for the company anymore.
      Or you can even act as you've got a depression because of it, start crying that you did your best and didn't want to disappoint him and liked working there so much but didn't expect it and.....
      There are many possible ways but it depends on who you are and the situation at the company.

      I had something similar, left a consultancy job 2 years ago, the boss was a jerk.. but I was polite, didn't burn bridges.
      A month ago the company phoned me back, first to ask me if I still had documentation or even source code from a specific project I did for them.. Later their true reason for contacting me came out, they had a big project starting and needed to hire someone, and as I had that specific experience, they wanted to hire me for a few months. It felt very good to say no to them :-)

    2. Re:Just leave by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree with everything except the negative sentiments towards your old job (even if talking with a new company).

      ALWAYS present leaving a job on good terms, if you can.

      You might not think about it now, but do you really want a future employer to even have to decide if you left because your old boss was a jerk or you were the jerk?!?

      Bad jobs happen... people have bad worker/employer fits all the time.

      You want your future employers to see that you were able to handle a bad situation gracefully; it'll add to your credit.

      (Although not in the parent of this reply, but from the original poster): "you're not going to use them as a reference" suggests you'd rather have a multi-year gap in your employment history than show you were gainfully employed? Bad move.

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    3. Re:Just leave by ringfinger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I had a bad job and quit once. I gritted my teeth on the exit interview and said my boss wasn't the reason I quit. This was even though the HR manager already knew I hated my boss -- and that the boss was an asshole. Well, a year later I ended up needing a reference and I called the asshole boss. It was like we were old friends. He gave me a glowing reference. He also asked if he could use me as a reference someday if he needed -- see, he figured if he helped me that I'd help him. After all, no one else at that place would've been a reference for him because he's such a dick. It's like we knew we never liked each other, but needed each other for our own reasons. Weird, but true.

  3. Good god man.. by kagaku · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have you never seen Office Space?

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  4. Vacation! by vandalman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Take a two week vacation and come back to a message saying something like, "So I guess your not going to work here anymore, come get your last paycheck." It worked for me, it should work for you!

    P.S.
    I did let the mean old lady know I was going on vacation, she just forgot.

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    1. Re:Vacation! by cujo_1111 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Put in your 2 week notice today, take a sick day tomorrow. Come in the following day all happy and jovial, take the next day as a sick day. Repeat.

      It works better than expected. By the second sick day they work out the deal and you get the next week off fully paid.

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  5. Na dun burn bridges by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, it might be fun, but you never know when you will bump into people you worked with down the road.

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    1. Re:Na dun burn bridges by kwerle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only time I'd really be tempted to issue the big FOAD is if I was leaving the area, and/or the profession. Even then, I'd make it real clear who the FOAD was for, who it was not for, why I was stating it, etc.

      I have ALWAYS insisted on an exit interview, and one time I was not real nice - another time I was very clear to HR that I would never ever work for so and so ever again.

      If you go for the FOAD, I suggest you do the exit interview first.

    2. Re:Na dun burn bridges by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So my uncle does shipping right? He was the guy who got the Canadian company to ship food from various places to Iraq back when that's what the U.N. was all about. The deal for his company was pretty nice, 7 figures, and he was going to get 10%. His ass of a boss fired him after working 10 months on the project, 2 months before he'd get his 10%.

      So then he got a new job. Sorta the same thing. He was working there about half a year before his boss there got promoted or something, gone, right? Then his company hires a shiny new boss for my uncle... and it's his old boss who fired him. The guy got canned himself for firing my uncle and dicking up the company.

      My uncle tells the funniest stories. Since then he's sold baby formula to Africa, used cars, and now he's in Kuwait organizing shipping to Iraq once again.

      --Matthew

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    3. Re:Na dun burn bridges by Nos. · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Precisely, but ask for an exit interview. Explain why you are leaving, and why you don't like the position. If nothing else, your (former) co-workers might get a bit of a break. Also, sometimes management may not actually realize the environment they're creating.

    4. Re:Na dun burn bridges by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Funny

      So my uncle does shipping right?

      How the hell should I know?

    5. Re:Na dun burn bridges by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I'd make it real clear who the FOAD was for, who it was not for, why I was stating it"

      "Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. You're cool. And fuck you. I'm out."
      http://www.moviewavs.com/cgi-bin/mp3s.cgi?H alf_Bak ed=i_quit.mp3

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    6. Re:Na dun burn bridges by BCoates · · Score: 2, Funny

      He was the guy who got the Canadian company to ship food from various places to Iraq back when that's what the U.N. was all about. [...] and he was going to get 10%. [...] Since then he's sold baby formula to Africa, used cars, and now he's in Kuwait organizing shipping to Iraq once again.

      So, are there any other fringe benefits of being the nephew of Satan?

    7. Re:Na dun burn bridges by TomSawyer · · Score: 5, Funny
      My uncle tells the funniest stories.

      Too bad it doesn't appear to be hereditary.

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    8. Re:Na dun burn bridges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      +1 Insightful. Anyone that sells baby formula (I'm assuming Nestlé or Danone, 'cause they make practically all of it) to developing countries who'd be MUCH BETTER OFF educating their mothers to breast-feed should die a very slow, painful, horrible death.

      http://www.babymilkaction.org/CEM/compseptoct01. ht ml
      http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Corporations /Cor pRights_HumanNeed.html
      http://www.news24.com/News 24/World/0,6119,2-10_130 8508,00.html

    9. Re:Na dun burn bridges by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Dude, the company was only getting $2,000,000 from the job. My uncle's specific expertise is getting permissions from various governments for docking and transport rights and whatnot. The company provided a service which was simply making sure product X went from point A to point B and all the paperwork was in line for that to happen. He's doing more of the same now in Iraq.

      For example, he had to deal with several thousand tons of U.N. WFP food parked on container ships off the coast of British controlled Iraq which the Brits wouldn't let move into the country.

      His current stories are about hiring drivers to transport stuff into the country (food again). He has to deal with Turks in the north who are all loaded up but then get scared at the last minute and stop at the border with freezer trucks who's systems end up getting shut down and the food rots. All the truckers he deals with in the south are Indian, btw, and they're not so difficult except for the fact that everyone's charging exorbitant prices to transport stuff into the country. For good reason too, he's been on a couple convoys when they've been attacked.

      There's not much Satan to him, he just likes being in the most interesting places at the time. I'm not sure what the used car thing was about though.

      --Matthew

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    10. Re:Na dun burn bridges by invenustus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's possible to combine humor and honesty in a resignation.

      Wait for the next time your job pisses you off. Try to put yourself in a situation where something unfair will be done to you. When it happens say, "That's it! I can't take it anymore! I'm leaving! You have pushed me too far!" They'll try to apologize and beg you not to overreact, but you'll be walking out the door.

      If done just right, the person who wronged you will look bad for having directly caused employee attrition.

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    11. Re:Na dun burn bridges by Pandora's+Vox · · Score: 2, Informative

      formula is marketed in developping countries as being "better" than breat milk. it's not. it's really, really not. and hey, you're lucky that it worked for you + yours. but imagine this:

      woman has a baby in africa somewhere. woman feeds baby formula. woman goes broke! can't buy formula, and oh no! no more breast milk either.

      plus the shit they sell in thr 3rd world is awful. very different from what they sell here.

  6. Don't Burn Bridges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You NEWER know where someone will end up in 5 years. The Boss you screw over today could be interviewing you in 5 years at some other company.

    I know a guy who used to work in a specific industry, then went to work for one of the large consulting firms. He was sent to one of the companies to pitch a $30M project. He ended up pitching to someone he had seriously screwed a number of years earlier. Needless to say regardless of his current companies abilities, they didn't get the contact.

    1. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by jamesh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In addition, don't burn bridges for your co-workers. I used to work in a manufacturing plant for a major computer company. The plant was sold to a contract manufacturer startup, with the original owner being the major client. After a while things weren't going so well, and some staff were layed off. On his last day, some fsckwit sent an email addressed to 'l.gerstner' (the head guy at the original owner and major client).

      The email contained an ASCII moon, and not the kind you'd normally see hanging in the sky.

      Chances are Mr Gerstner never saw it, one would assume that he'd have email monkeys vetting his mail first, but it sure made us look bad.

    2. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by bwt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In addition, don't burn bridges for your co-workers.

      I agree. Be classy. People will remember how you left. If your real motivation is to screw the company, do it with a smile while being polite -- put in two weeks notice, actually do your work, and quietly try to recruit other key people to leave too. This way, your coworkers will remember that you were a good guy (whether they follow you or not).

    3. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The Boss you screw over today could be interviewing you in 5 years at some other company.

      Perhaps more significantly, your boss's boss or peer, who had nothing against you until they heard from your boss how you screwed him, could be interviewing you later on somewhere else.

      Never burn bridges, ever. It's unprofessional, and your professional reputation is worth more than any temporary smugness you might achieve.

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    4. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by Prior+Restraint · · Score: 2, Informative

      Perhaps more significantly, your boss's boss or peer, who had nothing against you until they heard from your boss how you screwed him, could be interviewing you later on somewhere else.

      Hear! Hear!

      At the start of 2001, I left Company X to come work where I am now. I've recently started looking for a new job, and a few weeks ago I got an interview with Company Y. It's a first-round interview, so I'm really just there to listen to their recruiter's sales pitch. I show up to the interview and--what's this?--it's the guy who recruited me to work for Company X! Turns out he left about three months after I did.

      Had I made a huge scene when I left Company X (and I really, really wanted to), I wouldn't even be considered for the position at Company Y, which is currently my favorite choice.

  7. Make it meaningful, or funny... by bscott · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I could write paragraphs on pranks you could pull, but frankly if you can't think of your own, it would be pointless - you're not the type.

    The only other "meaningful" way to go would be to use the opportunity to give a message to the downtrodden you're leaving behind. Show them just how lazy, insubordinate, and unmotivated one can be without actually getting fired (for the duration of however long you have left) - just be a really bad example to other employees, and watch management squirm in their inability to fire you in today's litigious climate... ideally, the outcome of this act could be that everyone else will realize their true position, begin acting similarly, and perhaps management will be forced into a corner with regards to how they treat their 'human resources'. Businesses treat employees like shit only when they think they can get away with it.

    See the movie "Office Space" for some hints.

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  8. Have some fun... by Flaming_cows · · Score: 2, Funny

    Have some fun and paint a big red penis on your PHB's door, reminiscent of Penny-Arcade.

  9. Name that quote by HunterZ · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Fuck you,fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, fuck you, I'm out."

    I've been tempted to do that one at work, since I'm about to leave a fast food job for a much better paying software development job.

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    1. Re:Name that quote by dextr0us · · Score: 2, Informative

      bam!!! dave chapelle at his finest!!! Half Baked! What a classic peice of cinema masterpiece.

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    2. Re:Name that quote by Mojojojo+Monkey+Inc. · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, not quite informative... it was Guillermo Díaz (Scarface) who said that specific line. Dave Chappelle is good though.

  10. MOD PARENT UP by SewersOfRivendell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, AC is giving you solid advice -- don't burn bridges. Doesn't matter if he's an asshole. You never know who you're going to work with again or why circumstances should conspire to make you do so...

    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP by mandos · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You may be right, but this whole "the employee should just bend over and take it" attitude is not something people want to do or hear about it. Just the other day here on SlashDot we were reading about how the brain is wired to ENJOY revenge of various sorts.

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  11. Ask for a promotion by narratorDan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Go into your PHB's office and ask for a promotion or a raise or just about what ever you want keeping in mind that he most likely will not give it to you. Then tell him that he has two weeks to think about it.

    NarratorDan

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  12. ok, so I feel old saying this but... by tvadakia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    never burn bridges.

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    1. Re:ok, so I feel old saying this but... by Zardoz44 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Hey Fred. Nice day for a BBQ. Have you met my Wife? ... Btw, I just got this resume from a guy who says he used to work at your company. Ever hear of Medscaper?

      Fuck yeah! You want to know what he did when he quit? Don't hire that asshole. Don't waste your time.

      Small world. Good thing I talked to you first.

      ---------

      I can't tell you how many stories I've heard of burned bridges haunting someone years down the road. Do you know the phrase I'm about to butcher? Treat a customer well and they'll tell two people; treat them badly and they'll tell ten. Same goes with burnt bridges. People remember bad things.

    2. Re:ok, so I feel old saying this but... by gbjbaanb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So true.

      when I work for my first company, there was this presales guy who decided to change role to a team lead. One day he was overheard complaining his bonus was a measly x, instead of y (y being jus a couple of grand less than our salaries at the time).

      forward 4 years, I'm recruiting.. and I'm asked to ask questions of this guy they ave n for a fancy job... you guessed. He didn't get the job.

      Since then, when I get CVs in, I ask around for people who knew the guy, it does give a good indication of how he'll fit in with the team, and though you don't use just that as a filter, it does play a major part of the hiring decision.

      There's one guy I used to work with at my last company who I will not work with ever again. I recommended the product they make to my current employer who will resell it/partner up. That guy *will not* be involved in the new business.

  13. One day I quit my phone tech support job... by c.r.o.c.o · · Score: 3, Informative

    About a year ago I was working in the tech support department in one of the universities in Toronto. Every summer the older employees had to create presentations to train the new employees before the school year would start. My task, as luck would have it, was to teach them how the wireless network was set up, and what software/hardware was required to connect to it. As any good employee, I spent a couple of my afternoons working on the Powerpoint slides, got it ready on time even though I did not get paid for the extra time I worked on it.

    The setup was fairly involved because it required a VPN client that was not easy to set up, and a user name and password, which again, were complicated to obtain. On top of that, each MAC address had to be registered with the server. A day before the presentation, the entire system was changed. the VPN client was dumped in favour of a proxy system, which still required a user name and password. Needless to say, my presentation was worthless, and I was required to redo it within a day. I started working on it, but because I had made plans for the evening, I decided to finish it at the last moment the next day. I never got around to it.

    I should mention this was not a 9-5 job, the shifts were 4 hours long. I even had to work from 3-11pm and then the next morning from 8am-3pm. Now for the rest of my story.

    The day my unfinished presentation was due was such a beautiful, hot summer day I decided to ride my motorcycle to work. I thought I could wing it on the spot, and the whole way I kept thinking of it. The closer I got to the campus though, the more I dreaded having to deal with a problem I had not created. So I rode into the campus when I saw one of my supervisors walking around. But instead of turning into the parking lot, I just kept on going.

    Later that evening I pulled up on a friend's driveway in Ottawa, about 450km away from the stupid presentation and my former job. I came back a week later to collect my last paycheck. That's how I quit my bad job.

    1. Re:One day I quit my phone tech support job... by cujo_1111 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That is a really pissweak way of quitting if you don't mind me saying so.

      Running away isn't going to fix anything. You should have given your original presentation and added a slide to the end saying that if the trainees have any questions, please see the person who made the process changes.

      You would still have a chance at losing your job but you would have a ton more fun in the process.

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  14. Seek employment for your friends by complete+loony · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Help what friends you have try to get other jobs. Try to encourage a mass migration.

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  15. small industry by austad · · Score: 4, Funny

    The IT industry is small, and as much as I've wanted to do that in the past, I'm glad I didn't. That being said, I give you this:

    http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/wdc/33123421. html

    I hope that any ideas it gives you are deserved of the people on the receiving end.

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  16. Don't do anything rash by jezmund · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't piss anyone off! While it may be satisfying to finally tell some one off, it's just not worth it. Look at it this way; it doesn't cost you anything to just quietly and politely leave. Whereas your boss or some one he knows may one day be in a position to make life difficult for you. I've burned bridges in the past, and have almost always regretted it. I have never had occassion to regret the few opportunities I've been smart enough to take the high road. You can certainly express unhappiness as you leave, but I would avoid doing anything rash. Just my two cents.

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    "fist in the air in the land of hypocrisy"
  17. Burn the bridges by flikx · · Score: 4, Funny

    I once left a dismal job a few years back. I tore up my office, made it a total mess. There were dead-man switches galore, and I 'accidentally' broke every build. I clogged several toilets, on multiple floors, in both mens and womens restrooms. I brought in a bunch of rotten food, and left it in various locations. I installed a ton of spyware and uninstalled all virus checking software, after filling the network shares with several gigabytes of the most nasty pornography I could find. I filled my desktop machine with quick-dry cement. On the way out, I even scraped my boss's dinky little car with my truck.

    That was one of the most satisfying experiences in my life. I can't wait to get into a crappy job again!

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    1. Re:Burn the bridges by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I guess that was a joke ...

      But seriously, before you go over the top in plotting your revenge on your current boss, don't forget that he can do other things than sack you. He can withhold your last paycheck, your accrued holiday. He can track you down at your new job and spill the beans to your new boss. If you do something illegal, he can call in the police. Or much, much worse!

    2. Re:Burn the bridges by Hank+Reardon · · Score: 3, Informative

      ...He can withhold your last paycheck, your accrued holiday.

      I had somebody try this on me once and discussed the issue with a friend who's an HR manager. It seems that withholding paychecks and accrued pay is against Federal labor laws. You don't want to screw with them.

      They have to take you to civil court to get you to pay them back for any damages you might have caused.

      He can track you down at your new job and spill the beans to your new boss. If you do something illegal, he can call in the police. Or much, much worse!
      Depends on where you live. If you're in a 'right to work' state, this is grounds for some serious law suits. And an ass whoopin.

      Even if you weren't in a Right to Work state, this is usually not acceptable. From what I recall, even on reference checks, the only things you can really reveal about a former employee are their hire dates, salary and whether they're elligable for rehire.

      Depending on what's said, and how much proof they have, you could also slap them with libel or slander.

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    3. Re:Burn the bridges by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 4, Insightful
      the only things you can really reveal about a former employee are their hire dates, salary and whether they're elligable for rehire.

      "Mr. Smith? Hi, this is Mr. Anderson over at Fubarco? You hired one of our former employees, a Mr. Jones? I just needed to tell you that his reference status has changed---he is no longer eligible for rehire. Federal law prohibits me from specifying the particulars behind why there's not a chance in hell we would allow Mr. Jones to work here ever again. Just thought I'd let you know. Which reminds me---and this is a completely different and unrelated topic that has nothing to do with the reason we won't allow Mr. Jones to work here ever again---do you have any knowledge of how to remove dead fish from a ventilation system? No? Just thought I'd ask. Well, best of luck!"

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    4. Re:Burn the bridges by ChipMonk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mr. Smith? Hi, this is Mr. Anderson over at Fubarco?

      Why on earth would Neo be calling an Agent regarding an employee hire?

    5. Re:Burn the bridges by cmpalmer · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to discuss details about former employees, but if I were allowed to say something, it would rhyme with 'mazy loron'"

      Dogbert, evil HR director (paraphrased, as I'm sure someone will point out)

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      -- stream of did I lock the front door consciousness
  18. Better be nice by dtfinch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've known _of_ employers who would offer a job but not follow through if the prospective employee was willing to dump their previous employer without notice.

    So, you say you're already employed?
    Yes, but I'm not very fond of the work

    So can you start immediately?
    Sure.

    Sorry, can't hire you.

    1. Re:Better be nice by Feztaa · · Score: 4, Informative

      Been there, except it went more like this:

      "So, when can you start?"
      "Well, I have to give my current boss my two weeks notice"
      "Of course. I wouldn't hire you if you didn't."

      2 weeks later, my last day on the job was a friday, I had the weekend to myself, and I started work at the new place on a monday.

  19. Bad Move by Dr.+Bent · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Taking a promotion or a raise instead of leaving for a new job is usually a bad, bad idea.
    1. They think (know) you're disloyal. When it's time for layoffs, you'll be the first to go.
    2. It's possible they're just giving you a raise to give them time to find your replacement. Whenever they're ready, you might be out the door (having passed on your other job offer already).
    3. To use a poker analogy, managers don't like being check-raised. If you think this won't effect their professional/personal opinion of you in the long term, you're wrong.
    4. Most importantly: If you hate the job enough to look for another one, why would you stay? Is the raise/promotion really worth it?

    1. Re:Bad Move by Khazunga · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's a myth. Put yourself in a middle manager's shoes. Would you raise all twenty people in your charge all they deserve, or just enough they won't complain? You may say that if you get paid a lot, you're a bigger target for layoff. That's absolutely true. But then, asking for raises above average is for above average types.

      --
      If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you
    2. Re:Bad Move by thenerdgod · · Score: 5, Funny
      "Taking a promotion or a raise instead of leaving for a new job is usually a bad, bad idea.
      1. They think (know) you're disloyal. When it's time for layoffs, you'll be the first to go.
      2. It's possible they're just giving you a raise to give them time to find your replacement. Whenever they're ready, you might be out the door (having passed on your other job offer already).
      3. To use a poker analogy, managers don't like being check-raised. If you think this won't effect their professional/personal opinion of you in the long term, you're wrong.
      4. Most importantly: If you hate the job enough to look for another one, why would you stay? Is the raise/promotion really worth it?


      " All I have to say is, sure, go ahead, ask for a promotion. Ask for Money. Ask for Power. Ask them to offer you everything you ask for. The point isn't that you want all of that. The point is: "I want my father back, you sonofabitch!"
  20. Make them know why you're leaving. by arcade · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This will certainly burn some bridges, but if you think it's worth it - and that you are wroth it - then do it.

    Please remember, it's not a good thing to burn bridges at all if you're not outstanding at what you do - but if you're one of the most excellent people at our place, and you will be missed due to your skills, then it may be worth it.

    However, from your story - it seems that your workplace isn't very fond of you, and that it will be interpreted as sour grapes if you do anything. That will not be a good thing.

    Anyways, if by chance, you are a very productive, very well skilled person - then write up a letter on why you are leaving the company, why your direct superior is an asshole, and so forth. Tailor several letters. The one about your superior should be slipped to his superior. The one about other people should be slipped to their superiors. Make it perfectly clear why you are leaving the job - and make sure to let the real bosses know what work you've actually done that is very, very good.

    Normally, though. If it's you that do not fit in, don't play any pranks - just inform your boss that you're not happy with the work environment, and that you've found another place where your skills will be used properly. That you wish this would be the case at the place you're leaving - but that the situation wasn't working out.

    --
    "Rune Kristian Viken" - http://www.nwo.no - arca
  21. My stint at walmart by Monkelectric · · Score: 4, Funny
    Tech market is very bad, especially for guys like me who have pretty good resumes (I've been a sysadmin, programmer, consultant... people see my resume and they're like shit, we only need a programmer, not this other stuff). I was working at walmart, 12:00am to 9:00am 5 days a week. Worst schedule you can imagine. I used to work like a dog to "bust my freight" before like 4:00am. I'd clock out at 3:00 but keep working, clock in at 4:00am, then goto lunch for 3 hours -- of course at walmart they ILLEGALLY lock you into the building, so I would slip out the loading dock (no I don't feel bad about ripping off a company that locks its employees in).

    The worst thing I did... I worked in the shoe department (the worst department there is, even the janitors pitty you), this *HOT* girl is standing back towards me, looking at some shoes. As I walk by the says without looking at me, "What do you think of these ones?" to which I reply, "I'm sorry mam, for what occassion?" then it dawns on me she's probably flirting, and she says, "oh I thought you were my father, I'm sorry!" to which I reply, "Well, you never know ;-)" ... just as these words leave my lips a grumpy 50 year old man in overalls and a half shaved beard walks up behind me and says "I DON'T THINK SO SON!" Then it occurs to me the girl is more like 17 instead of 21. but oh well.

    Oh, topic ... um, so how I quit was, well nevermind it wasn't nearly as funny as that story.

    --

    Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley

    1. Re:My stint at walmart by Peterl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the market is so bad, why can't we find any programmers to hire who can pass a dead-simple programming test?

  22. Leave "gracefully" by moanads · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Look at it this way. Your company has allowed your boss to survive and maybe even flourish. You need to strike back and the only way you can do that is to conceal the truth. In your exit interview (if you do have one) don't say that you're leaving because of a PHB. Think up some other reason. If possible, praise your boss. That will mean that he'll be given more control in the company and will piss off more people, who will also leave. The people who leave will also share your opinion and that might indirectly make your boss unemployable in many other companies. They will also bad mouth your former employer wherever they go and that will make it difficult for your former employer to find replacements for the people who leave. At the very least, you will have the satisfaction that your former employer will have to look for more than one replacement after you leave. That's the best way to strike back at the environment which shelters PHBs.

  23. Not Necessarily by Un0r1g1nal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Depends how good you are, my mate was on £23k a year ago, and had had enough, told his boss he wanted more money or he was off, so they gave him £26k, this year he didnt even have to approach his boss, they approached him and gave him £29k.

    The only problem is when your either crap and they don't want you any way, or your boss is an ass who thinks your bluffing. Then of course you are going to have to find a new job because you know they wont promote you anyway.

    --
    If at first you DON'T succeed, Skydiving is NOT for YOU!!
  24. Re:Movie "Office Space" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I move we stop adding users when we hit 800,000. Do I hear a second?

  25. Don't be Juvenile by fuzzybunny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Discretely pack up your things and save any documentation or files you want to take along, and write a polite letter giving two weeks (or however much you agreed on) notice.

    Ask if "they" would like feedback, and write a list of what bugged you, what was good, and what could have been done better.

    Finish what you were working on if you can, offer to take care of any handover work, as you firmly should state that you will not be available for it after you have left.

    Don't burn bridges; it's not so much that these people might come back to haunt you someday, as that it's an adolescent thing to do.

    --
    Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage
  26. That's what happened to me once by eleknader · · Score: 5, Informative

    Few years ago I was about to leave to another company and a position.

    I told my boss I was leaving, we started organizing my duties to my colleagues etc.

    Few days later I was told from my new employer, that my deal has just changed: completely different position. They told me this change by _email_!

    I was very happy, that I was nice to my old boss. He let me stay, and I worked about one year after this at my old job.

    So, I'd recommend being nice for your boss :)

    Eleknader

  27. Re:Piss on servers by Hank+Reardon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Your company can't take any legal action against you because of this. You didn't degrade the network nor the hardware. You didn't hurt anyone. But they will have to tidy up :)

    Actually, they can take legal action. Criminal legal action, at that. Any damage done to the machines would count as vandalism; over a certain threshhold of monetary damage and the action moves into felony range.

    There are also laws on the books regarding not only relieving one's self in public, but you could probably fit excreta into the definition of hazardous or medical waste; certainly improper disposal laws would apply in this case.

    Finally, if somebody happens to walk in during the... er... process of elimination, it's called indecent exposure. Were he to be convicted of that last count, it means manditory registration as a sex offender.

    As fun as it might sound, I wouldn't consider it worth the risks.

    --
    There's so little difference between politics and jihad lately...
  28. Two Basic Approaches by fm6 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    1. Do some kind of childish stunt. That might make you feel good for a while, but it won't convince your asshole boss that he treated you badly. In fact, he'll use your childishness to justify his assholedness. "You see why I was easing him out?"
    2. You can find some way to make upper management aware that you're leaving in part because your boss is an asshole. Think out that will make him look with his boss.
    That's the basic choice. I'm sure you can fill in the details yourself.
  29. I have refused people jobs on this account by pkphilip · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The scenario that you have just presented is something that I have personally dealt with..

    I had someone who applied to me for work and as I interviewed him, it became clear to me that he was quite good and I fully intended to recruit him.

    But towards the end of the interview when I asked him when he would be willing to join, he stated something along the lines that "sooner is better" since he wanted to slight those who were then employing him.

    I told him that I couldn't employ someone with that attitude and he lost, what would otherwise have been, an excellent job.

  30. Stanley Cup Style by p.rican · · Score: 2, Funny
    I know someone who is a major Pittsburgh Penguins fan and has been stuck in a miserable IT job for the last couple of years. He's finally been offered a position with another company so he also decided to leave in style. He gave one hour notice, went back to his cube, got dressed up in full Pittsburgh Penguin hockey gear including his inline skates and just began skating around the cube farm with a home-made Stanley Cup over his head.

    Don't ask me what his point was...... It was just funny to watch because PHB got even more pissed but had no idea what to do........

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    /. --"Demented and sad....but social" -Judd Nelson

  31. Take the high road by codejnki · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Be faithful and give your two weeks. Let them know that this new oprotunity will give you more room to grow than you've felt that your current working conditions will currently allow for. And for added bonus, bring in bagels or doughnuts on your last day. That my friend, is style.

    --
    "War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left"

    Steven Wright

  32. Going out with a thud by qwijibo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It may feel good to go out with a bang, but other than that, what's the point? Anything dramatic that you do will just reflect negatively on you. Not only with management, the people who are the butt of the joke, but with other coworkers that you have nothing against, some who you may even get along with.

    If those people who respect you know that you're leaving because of the BS environment, but you're still professional, give two weeks notice, etc, they may look you up in the future when they need someone with your skillset.

    I once worked for a company where management would throw temper tantrums and threaten to fire everyone. That's how hostile they were. For my review, my performance and productivity was praised, and I was offerred a "promotion" from hourly to salaried at the same rate. Since this company actual docked people's pay for showing up late and/or leaving early, and required salaried people to work unpaid overtime, I recognized this as the paycut it was. While it may have been fun to screw over the company, I did something much worse. I left, giving about 10 minutes notice. The people I worked with knew it was because of the hostile and dishonest management. Apparently they had some serious problems after that.

    I've never heard anyone look back on what they've done in the past and say "I wish I had been less professional at that job". On the other hand, I've heard of things that people have done in the past that I would hold against them if I were doing the hiring.

    Revenge is fun and intensely satisfying. However, it's a tool that can only be used for evil, never for good. What goes around, comes around. Those who treat people poorly will get theirs. Do you really want to get yours?

  33. Re:Piss on servers by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 5, Funny
    Honesly, the last day, go to your data center and piss on your company's servers.

    Ah, nothing like a stream of highly conductive liquid between your genitals and something containing thousands of volts...

    --
    This is not my sandwich.
  34. I would agree, however... by StressGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If instead of coming at them with "give me what I want or I'm out of here", you instead make the case that you are actually worth more on the open market, you won't necessarily be putting your employer in a box. He can, in fact, look at it one of three ways:

    1) He could disagree, in which case you can turn that into an amicable parting of the ways. I.e. I've found an offer more suitable to my career growth and I've decided to take it. I left a job like this once. I was turned down for a promotion, but a former partner of thiers offered me a position in thier company similar to what I was trying to get promoted to.

    2) He could agree, but decide that he doesn't require an employee of your skill level. In this case, it becomes clear to both of you that it's time for you to leave in order to grow in your career. When you do move on, both sides understand and agree as to why.

    3) He could agree, at which point it is up to him to decide if he can pay you an appropriate "market value" or tell you that he can't afford it. If it's the former, you've made your case and there is no loss of respect, if it's the latter, both sides understand why it's time for you to move on.

    --
    A goal is a dream with a deadline
  35. Report them for piracy by BadluckShleprock · · Score: 2, Informative

    After I was (honorably) discharged from the Army, I was working for a computer dealer until I could get a better job. They kept promising me a promotion if I would just stay with them. I kept hearing "give us a couple more weeks". In addition, my supervisor would come in every day and complain about how her husband doesn't want to have sex with her, she would berate me because I was "religously undecided", the owners would insult me because I was 23 years old and had graduated college yet, the technicians didn't like me because I knew more than they did about fixing computers, etc. It paid the bills, but I could only take so much, and after about 10 months I decided that it was a waste of my time to even show up there, so I quit.

    The day after I finally left, I called the software piracy hotline and told them about the following things that they flagrantly did:

    1) Whenever someone ordered a piece of software through them, no matter what it was, they would break the shrinkwrap and make an ISO image of the disc(s) in the box. If someone asked what happened to the shrinkwrap, they would just say that they were testing it to make sure it worked. After all, any computer savvy person would order online or go to CompUSA.

    2) They purchased a single user version of some server software, then the two owners (who had PhD's in computer science) unlocked it for unlimited users.

    3) They owned one copy of Windows, M$ office, etc., but installed it on 20 or so computers. While this is common, it's still a flagrant violation of the license.

    4) They ordered a trial version of a fax/pbx system (PCI expansion cards). After the trial period was up, they claimed the $10,000 worth of software and hardware had been hit by lightning, unlocked the trial period block, and ended up with a free fax and PBX system.

    About a month after I left, they were raided by the police, the owners arrested, and all of their equipment was sold at auction for pennies on the dollar.

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    There's a fine line between cuddling and holding someone down so they can't get away.
  36. Best resignation letter by theinfobox · · Score: 5, Funny

    I doubt this is a true letter, but the friend I received it from swears it is true....
    ---
    Following is a supposed letter of resignation from an employee at a computer company, to her boss, who apparently resigned very soon afterwards! It's Funny, but a bit harsh

    Dear Mr. Smith,
    As a graduate of an institution of higher education, I have a few very basic expectations. Chief among these is that my direct superiors have an intellect that ranges above the common ground squirrel. After your consistent and annoying harassment of my co-workers and me during the commission of our duties, I can only surmise that you are one of the few true genetic wastes of our time.

    Asking me, a network administrator, to explain every little nuance of everything I do each time you happen to stroll into my office is not only a waste of time, but also a waste of precious oxygen. I was hired because I know how to network computer systems, and you were apparently hired to provide amusement to myself and other employees, who watch you vainly attempt to understand the concept of "cut and paste" for the hundredth time.

    You will never understand computers. Something as incredibly simple as binary still gives you too many options. You will also never understand why people hate you, but I am going to try and explain it to you, even though I am sure this will be just as effective as telling you what an IP is. Your shiny new iMac has more personality than you ever will.

    You walk around the building all day, shiftlessly looking for fault in others. You have a sharp dressed useless look about you that may have worked for your interview, but now that you actually have responsibility, you pawn it off on overworked staff, hoping their talent will cover for your glaring ineptitude. In a world of managerial evolution, you are the blue-green algae that everyone else eats and laughs at. Managers like you are a sad proof of the Dilbert principle. Since this situation is unlikely to change without you getting a full frontal lobotomy reversal, I am forced to tender my resignation, however I have a few parting thoughts.

    1. When someone calls you in reference to employment, it is illegal for you to give me a bad recommendation. The most you can say to hurt me is "I prefer not to comment." I will have friends randomly call you over the next couple of years to keep you honest, because I know you would be unable to do it on your own.

    2. I have all the passwords to every account on the system, and I know every password you have used for the last five years. If you decide to get cute, I am going to publish your "favorites list", which I conveniently saved when you made me "back up" your useless files. I do believe that terms like "Lolita" are not usually viewed favorably by the administration.

    3. When you borrowed the digital camera to "take pictures of your Mother's birthday," you neglected to mention that you were going to take pictures of yourself in the mirror nude. Then you forgot to erase them like the techno-moron you really are. Suffice it to say I have never seen such odd acts with a sauce bottle, but I assure you that those have been copied and kept in safe places pending the authoring of a glowing letter of recommendation. (Try to use a spell check please; I hate having to correct your mistakes.)

    Thank you for your time, and I expect the letter of recommendation on my desk by 8:00 am tomorrow. One word of this to anybody, and all of your little twisted repugnant obsessions will be open to the public. Never f*** with your systems administrator. Why? Because they know what you do with all that free time!

  37. Re:my favorite job reference by Tom7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Best president since Clinton."

  38. Unfortunate double standard by jbarr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's an interesting dilema because of the unfortunate double-standard that exists: companies certainly won't hesitate to immediatly show you the door without any notice if THEY want to get rid of you, but you are "expected" to give them up to two or more weeks when YOU want to leave. Obviously, this is not compulsary, but it's highly traditional.

    It all really depends on your situation. The best bet is to not burn bridges because you never know when you may need the resources of the company or your colleagues in the future. Just come up with an equitable compromise.

    Remember that YOU are in the driver's seat. YOU are the one making the decision, not them. And stand by your decision--if they offer you more money or a promotion, absolutely turn it down and take the new job. Are really suddenly worth more to them now? Is staying really in your best interest? If you stay, it shows that you are not willing to stand by your word.

    Just don't be shocked if they ask you to leave immediatly.

    --
    My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
  39. How I left by wtom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had a pretty nice job with a large, large company, I totally loved it the first three years - was "Sr. Network Support Analyst" - was responsible for about 400-500 seats among 3 facilities, as well as several other responsibilities that spanned our division (PC Security, head of the y2k effort on intel platforms, I did the division intranet, a few other things too), handled two big wiring projects at two of our facilities.

    We went through several mergers, where our division bought smaller (and one pretty big) company, and, well, merged them into our business. I went with the flow on all of them, even the second to last one where the company we bought was almost as big as our division up to that point. Those IT guys became my new bosses, and they were cool. everything went good for maybe another year. Previously, I had went through 95 to 98 conversions, then 98-w2k conversions a few years later. We even went from AS400-based systems to SAP, and everyone knows how much fun that is.

    Let me mention that I was Golden Boy in this division, even after all the new mergers and conversions and y2k, etc. I took great (and I hope understated) pride in that my team met our objectives on time, and often on budget. I saved the company several thousands of dollars by moving most TCP/IP services over to Linux(like dhcp, dns, ftp, the intranet, etc). It worked so well, we used Linux as printservers for the SAP system when it went in. (The actual machines running SAP were in remote, hosted locations). So, in large part, I was the go-to guy in our division - and I loved it. Worked long hours maintaining cool equipment - it was great.

    The unions up north went on strike, down here in the south, we had no unions. The higher ups decided to expand the biggest plant down here in the south, and tell the unions where to stick it. They did all of the planning in secret, and the morons DID NOT INCLUDE IT/PHONE CONSIDERATIONS IN THE PLANNING AT ALL! Being the IT guy, I knew this was coming, but the higher ups were unwilling to discuss it with me until it was going to be made public. I did not know how fast it would be, though. Construction started within a WEEK of the announcement. What's more, they did not consider any budget increase.

    The division was not-so-well managed. I was the one who notified the head of our IT department - he either had no clue about it or he was lying. Given that the guy is pretty cool, and the division was pretty badly mismanaged, I honestly believe he did not know about it. From what I hear, it was a closely guarded secret to keep the union from finding out until the last possible second.

    So, after the public announcement, you may well imagine I was jumping through hoops. Our data/phone center was a modular office type thing in the middle of a huge manufacturing plant, by design it was pretty much in the middle of the plant. They decided to move the data center into a corner, out of the way for a while. It was QUITE amusing to tell them I thought it would take anywhere from 500k to 1 mill to move it, and re-run all the cabling. I got the blank, puppy dog look when I told them that IT operations would be severely interrupted for the duration. The time frame they wanted this done in was, shall we say, unrealistic. It would have required several wiring companies 24-hour shifts, and even then I doubt it would have worked.

    Then our division merged with another division in the same large corporation. This happened within weeks of the construction announcement, and the subsequent scramble to get a working plan. _That_ IT management team became everyone's new boss. So, _Their_ head IT guy came in, and "took over". This means that he made a bunch of unrealistic promises, and told everyone to come to me if they had problems.

    So, at this point, I and my one assistant were trying to juggle our normal support duties, dealing with plans for the construction, trying to handle NEW responsibilities with all the mfg lines and eqpt and peopl

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    Styrofoam IS biodegradable, you're just impatient!
  40. Get an offer letter... FIRST. by Fished · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When I've switched jobs (quite a bit in the 90's) I always insisted on getting a written letter of offer stating my salary etc. before I would say _ANYTHING_ to my currenty employer. Many people have been burned by moving to a new job, only to "discover" that the salary and benefits discussed were "talking points" and "accounting won't let us do that." With an offer letter, you can sue for all kinds of damages. Without one, you get butkis. I read a book on employment law a couple of years ago, and his remark was that, inevitably, the side with the biggest stack of paper wins.

    Also, I would strongly urge you not to quit "with style." What you call "with style" is really anything but. You should always try to maintain cordial and polite relationships with your former employer. Every job I've ever left, I've given a written letter of resignation, naming my last day (at least two weeks, sometimes more) and letting them know that I would be available free for "quick questions" on a short term basis to ease the transition. (I did not state, but implied, that if it was more than a "quick question" they should expect to pay me for my time.)

    In 2000, this served me well. I had just left a large Internet Company, and discovered the company I went with was going out of business after only two months. I went back to work for the Internet Company, got a pay raise and full-time telecommuting. And that's the job I've held for the past 4 years through a crappy economy while all the other geeks were whining about outsourcing.

    Bridges are good, a thing of utility and a thing of beauty. Never burn them unnecessarily.

    --
    "He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
  41. Re:OT Re:Just leave by escher · · Score: 4, Funny

    So now, I hope to meet my future wife by giving invites to women.

    I was going to say this sounds really pathetic, but only because I'm jealous that you thought of it first.

  42. Re:Just stop going in by Martin+Blank · · Score: 2, Funny

    People aren't bridges.

    No, they're not, but imagining them to be so does make it easier to pour gasoline on them and shoot them with a flare gun.

    --
    You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
  43. make a permanent impression by aminorex · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bring an AR-15 and a couple of SIGs to work. Wear BDUs, and a BIG knife. Sit down at the desk and just do your job. Smile at the receptionist.

    If anybody tries to stop you, just pull the bolt and frown at them.

    --
    -I like my women like I like my tea: green-
  44. Re:Piss on servers by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Something very similar to this was debunked on mythbusters. The basic problem is that the stream splits into droplets with air gaps between, so no current flows and nothing happens. If you have a reference to a published account of this story, that would be interesting.

  45. Re:one of the funniest tv ad for the french loto by BJH · · Score: 2, Funny

    Direct link to video.

  46. I say don't *directly* burn them... by ElForesto · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hated my last job. The bosses were always jerks to everyone, they engaged in shady business practices and I never saw a raise even though I busted my butt to keep the place afloat when we were understaffed and turning over employees like flapjacks. I left on pretty amicable terms...

    That is, right up until I went down to the US Bankruptcy courts and the IRS to report that the owner was skimming cash to avoid paying back his creditors. And also dropped a few notes to the FBI about their sex tourism business bussing guys down to Mexico and finding them hookers. And dropping a few lines to the FTC about unsolicited junk faxing. And letting their largest clients know just how much mark-up they were paying. And...

    They probably don't know it was me, as they left a long string of disgruntled employees. Whenever I think about it, I just smile smugly, wondering how much jail time they'll end up with.

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    There is a difference between "insightful" and "inciteful" other than spelling.
  47. Quit being redundant by Proc6 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Okay, can we quit with the "take the high road", "don't be childish" posts. Yes, we all know thats the right thing to do, and after the first 50 it's plenty redundant so quit posting it.

    Now lets get on with funny ways people have, or have wanted to leave their jobs. Something interesting to read instead of 500 obvious "Do the right thing" posts.

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    I'm Rick James with mod points biatch!

  48. FOAD to my boss by gimmuh411 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I worked for a large internet company at one point, as a senior person in their NOC. I had a manager that was so completely technically inept that the only way she could manage us was on numbers. Needless to say, it was micromanagement at it's worst. Well, when I got to the point where I couldn't take anymore, I walked over to her desk and put a 5# bag of flour down and smiled. She asked me what it was for. With all of my coworkers looking on in astonishment, I told her very calmly and politely "So you can go f*ck yourself, you fat bitch" then I turned and walked out. I know the crack is older than time itself, but it SURE felt good seeing her cry, knowing that I'd stayed awake at night for indeterminable stretches, stressed out from the way she ran (or didn't) run things. I felt bad about it afterwards, but 4 years later I still run into people I worked with that will bring it up and just can't stop laughing. And yes, I hope I never have to interview with for a job under her again.

  49. Evils of selling baby formula by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 3, Informative
    Pandoras vox forgot to mention that, in many third world countries, the water that many people get is pretty nasty. Even if the formula was up to first-world snuff, many kids die because the water mixed in with the formula has all sorts of greeblies in it that they haven't built up an immunity to yet.

    Truth of the matter is: If you're in the third world and you're not rich enough to afford really good water (and know about the evils of formula), you're probably going to be better off finding a friend you can pay to breast feed your kid. Chances are it'll be both cheaper and healthier.

    It's one thing to sell baby formula to people who need it. It's another thing entirely to market it to people who'se kids are probably going to get sick from eating the stuff. (while telling them precisely the opposite)

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  50. Your badge.... by thebiss · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...will only get you onto the raised floor naked once. Save it for the last day.

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  51. Be heard. by vettemph · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Make sure you tell everyone else first. If you tell your boss first, he will ask you to leave 'now' and tell your co-workers he asked you to leave due to your being a dificult person. Do you want everyone getting your story or his?

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  52. Burn the building down... by jbrader · · Score: 2, Funny

    cuz that asshole Lumburg stole your stapler.

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  53. How immature and unprofessional by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have been mad and fired from many employers and understand the need to get angry.

    But leaving a job this way certainly is not good and makes you look worse than your boss you dont like.

    Why did your boss complain of your work style and you? Not pointing fingers here per say, but if he dislikes you and not your fellow employee's then the problem is not your boss but perhaps yourself.

    A new job wont fix that either.

    Sure personality conflicts happen all the time but the mature adult way is to find away around them. If its a boss then just leaving would be the proper way. If he is an asshole, HR will notice the turnover and fire him.

  54. Never burn bridges by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you managed to survive your dressing-down (what is "PHB-style", anyway) without saying anything to get yourself fired, count yourself lucky and file a simple, polite resignation, then go out gracefully. You never know when you might need a reference of some kind, or who you might meet in the future. I work in the Washington, DC area, which has, what, 3-5 million people? And yet I keep meeting people who know other people I know, who may use the opinion of the common acquaintance to judge how to deal with me. Corporations may not give references, but people who work for them do, both formally and informally. Unless you are prepared to leave your employer off your resume and have an inexplicable gap in your work history, you're better off going quietly, without a show. What you don't say will speak volumes.

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  55. Time wounds all heels by mhollis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Insert obligatory statement on karma here

    A woman I know was "downsized" by a large newspaper corporation some years back after she got pregnant. Out of five groups, her group was the second in performance, so there was no justification other than that of her pregnancy.

    Her boss called her into his office and told her, after she took several hours off for a doctor's visit to get an amniocentisis, that "she had better get her priorities straight, and that when she decided her priorities, the manager would decide how valuable she was to the company."

    This matter is in litigation presently, with the United States EEOC well involved. The thing that is funny is that the company who let her go had an opportunity to offer some half a million in order to get her to drop her (very good and well-documented) case. Presently, the EEOC is suing the company for "an injunction requiring the [company] to abstain from discrimination. It also seeks back pay with interest and other 'affirmative relief ... including but not limited to reinstatement,' punitive damages and reimbursement of the commission's legal expenses." Since the EEOC is a federal commission, they have unlimited means to sue the company. Half a million will look very cheap when all of this is sorted out.

    Since she was let go in early 2001, they're looking at back pay that will total nearly half a million without any further damages, which will be considerable.

    My best advice, if you work for a company that commits "bad behaviors," keep a complete record of everything. It's a better bet than winning a lottery.

    In her case she did not burn any bridges. That would have been held against her in her case against the company.

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