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Nokia Phone Gets Virus Protection
wan-fu writes "After all that talk about bluetooth vulnerabilities
and mobile phone virii there will finally be a mobile phone with virus protection. Nokia's 6670 smart phone will be released in October and features software from F-Secure. Perhaps this will raise the eyebrows of some other mobile phone manufacturers to step up and increase their security policies for their phones' operating systems."
Can it run Linux?
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What's better...
Getting a virus from your phone
Getting a virus from a Mare
You shall all dine on mine fabulous POOP!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not just make a phone that is secure in the first place and can't get viruses. This has to be the worst marketing ploy ever.
Remember when software was all about making the hardware perform a few specific functions? Now it's about making the hardware perform a few specific functions, and trying make the software itself not perform a few things. And we think we got them all.
Perhaps we could raise the eyebrows of some editors to step up and increase their editing
They do? Good thing I have a phone that just makes calls. Who would have thought of that nowadays?
Virii isn't a word, god damn it!
Great. So now the cell-phone makers jump at the chance to enroll in the antivirus racket. These assholes perpetuate the threats and charge by the day for mobster-style "protection." And we're all supposed to eat it with a spoon.
Fuck these guys.
Given a choice between free speech and free beer, most people will take the beer.
a mobile telephone that is just that : a telephone. And I most certainly don't need a mobile telephone whose OS is so insecure that it needs an anti-virus program.
Automatic updates?? That would be interesting...
The best way to predict the future is to invent it. -Alan Kay
I mean, it's about time that someone did something to prevent a virus outbreak before it occurs. But it's kind of sad that it took this long. Didn't the past 20 years of computer virus outbreaks give these guys SOME CLUE that they should have been thinking about security from the beginning?
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
The first time I get a phone call that says "Hi! How are you? I call you in order to have your advice! See you later! Thanks," I think I will kill someone.
I don't think I know of a single person who keeps their virus definitions up to date (most of my friends use Linux, the rest aren't very computer-literate). Does anyone really think people will sit download virus updates for their frieking cell phone?
Robert Bindler
A Computer Science student's views on technology.
"Virii" makes no sense. Nobody who follows any rules for making plurals would choose it.
Good score for the marketing people. Buy our phones and get protection against those nasty viruses. Right now the chances of your phone getting infected are practically nil, and most phone viruses have been demonstrated by AV firms themselves to help seed a market for them in the future.
For all intensive porpoises your a bunch of rediculous loosers
Well, as long as I don't have to sacrifice my Britney Spears ringtones, it's ok with me...
Wait, I didn't mean Britney Spears ringtones, I meant Slayer ringtones! Yeah, rock the fuck on dudes!!!!
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The article states that there's nothing in the phone that makes it particularly susceptible to viruses and that Nokia knows of no capabilities within any of its devices that a virus might exploit. Fair enough, I suppose, but what happens when one day they release a version which has a bug in it.
The AV software subscription seems to be an monthly based fee type thingy. (Hats off to F-Secure, looks like they're right there on the bleeding edge of squeezing money out of everything).
What I'd really like to see is Nokia (and other manufacturers) taking their responsibility and offering online (or SMS based) free updates to their OS.
I don't want to be forced to subscribing into some monthly fee based bloodsucking anti-virus scheme just to be able to use my phone without having to worry about viruses turning my phone into SMS spamming zombie.
Even Microsoft releases patches every now and then, why not Nokia (and other cell phone manufacturers)?
The Nokia 6670 is a Series 60 phone.
And remember to upgrade your protection, otherwise you won't be safe, right? So let's make a deal, 9.99 e for a yearly subscription.
Now you are safe!
Until the next horrible virus... So don't ever forget to pay. OR ELSE!!
I do not moderate.
How the hell does a cell phone get a virus, is it through internet connectivity or something?
Click here or a puppy gets stomped!
"a mobile telephone that is just that : a telephone. "
Yeah and cars are cars and planes are planes. No place for CD players, clocks, complex error prone computer systems and whatnot.
Telephony is just a feature and I can't see any particular reason why it should deserve a dedicated box.
I don't particularly want to carry a multitude of individual plastic/metal containers for each feature that I may need daily, such as a calculator, clock, camera, calendar etc.
So perhaps these damn thingies, phones, PDAs, laptops etc. should be called something new and neutral. Any ideas?
J
I have searched the web and found nothing. What i'm curious about is if anyone else has the tendency to read magazines or books from the back to the front. I always seem to feel more comfortable reading in reverse. Has anyone out there heard of anything like this before?
Stop using it, fags.
Ok, I know this is nitpicking but I have to say this: The plural of "virus" is "viruses" not "virii". If you don't believe me, check your Oxford English Dictionary.
Also, you can find more information from this webpage that has an analysis of those ignorant minds who use a words like "virii": Those confused souls who write *virii are tacitly positing the existence of the non-word *virius, and declining it as though it were like filius. It's true that l/r are both linguals that sometimes get interchanged, and that f/v are just a change in voicing, but that's just reaching. *Virii is still completely silly, so don't do that; otherwise, everyone will know you're just a blathering script kiddie.
I do Symbian OS programming for a living (Symbian OS is the OS that was once EPOC on Psion and now drives a number of mobile phones, including Nokia Series60/80/90 and UIQ [Sony Ericsson P800/900/910]), and I have to say, from the security aspect it's one of the worst operating systems I ever saw. It has absolutely no security measures (besides a trivial buffer overflow checker in TDesC and derived classes), no permission system, nothing. The only really secure part that I saw in it was the Java sandbox.
So, my call to Nokia: get another OS vendor, try not to use Symbian OS anymore, and switch to e.g. Linux like Motorola did: it would be a relief for a lot of programmers, and help overall security on handsets and other mobile devices of your company.
P.S.: from the theoretical point of view, Symbian OS is great: it's AFAIK the most widely deployed microkernel operating system. But theoretical greatness doesn't help you with practical security issues...
A monkey is doing the real work for me.
Its sad we are even discussing this. There shouldnt be a concern for viruses, worms or any other exploit.
I know its a fact of digital life today, but it *shouldnt* be..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Next time you get robbed around the corner and lose that all-purpose box you are carrying and you will understand why you shouldn't depend so much on those things for living.
Well, if people just didn't make a call right after sneezing, they wouldn't need virus protection...
why not just run Vms on the device..JVMs are secure..and I am sure MS.NET Vms are
Don't Tread on OpenSource
Yeah, I'm sure the robbers don't want to inconvinience themselves by taking all of your one-purpose boxes.
how long till we see a worm that spreads as update for the virus protection?
How is that any different to being robbed of a number of single-purpose devices? Or are you advocating that we abandon technology altogether?
It's official. Most of you are morons.
... but that doesn't stop /.'ers.
What's your point? This is an informal discussion site, with lots of humorous comments.
I can see it now...
[Ring... ring...]
Hello?
How are you. I am back. My name is Mister Hamsi. I am seeing you. Haaaaaaaa. You must come to Turkey. I am cleaning your cell phone. 5. 4. 3. 2. 1. 0. Gule. Gule.
thats exactly what i always wanted ... this situation that i can take care of viruses on my cellphone. ... because there i have somehow free choice which kind of OS hell i choose.
i mean it is even worst compared to computers
in the case of cellular phones i am forced depending on hardware how i am annoyed.
this is really worst.
when will there be the 1st free phone on the market
hw only where you can choose your OS
TSTF
cellular phones are annoying!
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"virii" doesn't work as a plural.
What I mean is that people shouldn't be so much dependent on technology as to need to carry those things around. I've always criticized wemen for carrying bags full of useless stuff, nevermind the size of the bag.
I see those innovations more as solutions in search for problems than anything else, but that maybe just me...
I can live perfectly without a PDA or a $1000 cell phone because a $50 cell phone does what I need it to. I usually don't need to write things down because my brain is already used to remember them. Using technology to replace what the brain can do itself is wrong in my opinion. Additionally, I can lose my phone without any harm, but I can't lose my brain without dying.
One must balance his dependency of technology and use it to improve his abilities, not replace them. Of course this is a personal choice with personal consequences.
the battle to determine who can pack the most features on a cell phone. Seriously, is all this stuff really needed? If you want to do more than talking, get a PDA.
The first step in preventing virus attacks on computers is not to add software to scan for viruses, but to limit the capabilities of any program that interacts with untrusted objects (documents, web pages, and so on) so that there is no mechanism in the program the virus could use to launch itself as an executable or trusted script.
It's quite possible to build an operating system that is highly virus-resistent. You can even do it in a way that users aren't significantly affected. You'd need to occasionally select a file and explicitly install it... maybe once or twice a month you'd have to hit two or three more buttons.
The problem is that the cellular providers want cellphones they can push content to, without letting the user control the exchange. Most Verizon phones, for example, can ONLY be updated from Verizon's servers (via Get It Now), or by cracking the protection. That way they force the user to pay them for upgrades and software, and if someone *does* crack the protection they can change it no matter whether the user wants them to or not.
So the cellphone manufacturers listen to their customers, and those customers are the cellular providers... not the end user... and build phones that have a (hopefully) secure backdoor for them.
Right now this isn't a huge security problem because the phones are too wimpy. The simpler a system is, the easier it is to keep something like that secure. But as computer power increases and phones get more capability, and people EXPECT more capability even at the lower end, they'll get more complex and have more opportunities for someone nefarious to sneak in the back.
This is normal and expected, it's not an evil plot or anything... if you want a phone you control, you need to buy the phone up front. The problem is, this means secure phones will cost the end-user more money up front, so most people will go for the subsidised phones, backdoors or no.
Well, regardless of the hype, I think I'm going to enable the IR firewall on my old Nokia 6190. *afixes black tape strip over top of phone*. Damn, I feel much better now.
http://shit.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/25/1 728217
Just make the phone firmware so that it won't let any unauthorized programs run in the first place.
"In America, you can always find a party. In Russia, party always finds you."
When I submitted the story I chose "virii" b/c that is the accepted term for the plural noun of a computer virus. Obviously were I talking about viruses in the biological/physiological context I would have used "viruses"