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DIY Warriors Saluted And Sought

WaveDave writes "I have found some really inspiring pages out there by folks who are hacking together amazingly cool low-cost hardware/software/etc projects (reminiscent of the old homebrew computer club days). With the cost of IC's, sensors, microcontrollers, and PC's falling through the floor, we've entered a time where the barriers to entry on hacking neat projects are lower than they've ever been. There are a lot of indicators of the excitement in these projects, including the recent announcement of the upcoming Make Magazine from O'Reilly. Initially blown away by Matthias Wandel's projects, I've begun to put together a small collection of links to other creative DIY-ers out there, as well as resources for finding parts, getting stuff made (like PCB's and machined stuff). My current list is here - what are some of your favorite creatives and resources?"

190 comments

  1. Access to information by Exter-C · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the past the access to information on how to go about doing this was much more difficult and not all libaries or regeons had that information availible. Since the birth of the internet and it becoming amazingly popular the information has become much more accessible. That is also one the major reasons why there has been a fairly large explosion in the amount of "hackers" out there doing cool things with hardware/software and thier self esteem.

    1. Re:Access to information by Exter-C · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Its rather amusing to think about it. In the past when alot of people where poorer and the quality of life was lower we would DIY everything from our house to our garden, car and bicycle. Now we are lazy we sit in side and DIY only our computers in some cases. Lets hope that this can be a further trend to people doing things for themselves and innovation will surely be the real benefit from this. Not only will innovation be the key but also self satisfaction and a feeling of acomplishment that so many people lack in todays society.

    2. Re:Access to information by TykeClone · · Score: 0
      In many cases, it is cheaper to purchase the goods than it is to build them yourself. Those who are doing that are doing so more for enjoyment than a desire to save a great deal of money.

      Lets hope that this can be a further trend to people doing things for themselves and innovation will surely be the real benefit from this. Not only will innovation be the key but also self satisfaction and a feeling of acomplishment that so many people lack in todays society.

      I do agree with this!

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    3. Re:Access to information by slackerboy · · Score: 1, Informative

      Its rather amusing to think about it. In the past when alot of people where poorer and the quality of life was lower we would DIY everything from our house to our garden, car and bicycle. Now we are lazy we sit in side and DIY only our computers in some cases.

      Speak for yourself. I'm in the middle of installing electrical wiring in the ~1000 ft^2 of my second story.

      If you want to know why we don't all "homebrew" everything, it's because for some things, they cost less to have someone else do them than the time and aggravation it would take us. (That's why, the plumbing, HVAC, and especially the drywall on my house are getting contracted out.)

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    4. Re:Access to information by banzai51 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's because you had to. And in those times those that were not experts at it (read: most everyone) ran risks: Starving, accidents, etc. Our social structure supports specialization so we can concentrate our time on things we enjoy or improve our own specialization. I like to tackle projects around the house, but I positively hate plumbing. It is to my benefit that I can call an expert if I'm over my head rather than being stuck with my shoddy plumbing efforts.

    5. Re:Access to information by nktae · · Score: 1

      As a compulsive DIYer in non-computer areas I would agree that the more we get involved in doing and trying to do things for ourselves the more products/instruments/impliments/machines evolve. An example I love is farm machinery. It is an ever evolving set, with complaints AND solutions being logged by farmers to John Deere, International, CAT, etc, and those companies responding with solutions or expansions on the solutions offered by the farmers who use the equipment. I too hope that the full range of things we use will again be exposed to this kind of progressive DIY solutions.

    6. Re:Access to information by Zoxed · · Score: 1

      > Now we are lazy we sit in side and DIY only our computers in some cases.

      Maybe I do not really belong here; but I *do* DIY my house, I fix my bike (adn the families, and the neighbours...) and I power my bike myself :-)

  2. Re:w00t w00t by Nermal6693 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hold on, you 'first posted' an article about DIY without mentioning duct tape!? And you call yourself a geek...

  3. DIY champ by AtomicBomb · · Score: 3, Informative

    In terms of DIY, not many people can beat that guy

    1. Re:DIY champ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      that site is class but theres no way that guy is a genuine geek.

      the giveaway is he goes running!
      outside!

      for fun!!

    2. Re:DIY champ by Vo0k · · Score: 1

      The problem with this guy is he writes WHAT he does, but very rarely HOW he does it, which is a bummer and badly against the hacker nature.

      Take this "biofeedback" hack. Using your emotions to perform actions on the computer (think FPS games!) - Cool. But all the guy does is to leave a link to a photo of his uber-leet biofeedback device case.

      Anyone with links on DIY biofeedback?

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    3. Re:DIY champ by Council · · Score: 1

      I did the same thing last year. Got some great shots of the campus from the air, I'll do it again soon.

      But I submit that you can in fact be a jock geek. I did the kite photography with a physics major friend of mine. He's a big guy who wears sleeveless T-shirts, lifts weights constantly, lives with football players, and runs for the college. And he helps me out on my quantum mechanics homework.

      They do exist.

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    4. Re:DIY champ by Peale · · Score: 1

      "RUN for FUN? What the hell kind of fun is that?"

    5. Re:DIY champ by autophile · · Score: 1
      That, and his "ishower" idea. "Shower conferencing"???

      --Rob

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    6. Re:DIY champ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      water great idea!

    7. Re:DIY champ by Ba3r · · Score: 1

      Wait a second, since when is running a jock sport?? I was on the XC (cross country for all you couch potatoes) team in High School, and by nature it is a geeky, oddball sport. This is most likely because you end up being thin and wiry, not bulky and 'jock like'. Not that any of these stereotypes hold water for more than a couple trite /. threads or stupid late Spring Hollywood high school graduation teen movies, but still... although I suppose if you were talking about sprinting..

      Running is a discipline game, something about battling the overwhelming urge to stop, and instead go faster, farther, and sprint up hills to boot! When i go running (every evening after work), I don't seek to 'win'; my goal is to hit that spot, the one where my mind blanks as my automatic reflexes kick in, and pain fades, and everything is clear. Thats what lets me code my way through the next day (until around 2pm when i hit up slashdot.. heh, and write a comment like this).

    8. Re:DIY champ by Council · · Score: 1

      It's true that running isn't necessarially a jock sport, I have geek friends who run. But the aforementioned guy is quite clearly a jock who runs. Not thin and wiry or anything.

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  4. slashdot editors, me too ! by RedLaggedTeut · · Score: 1, Troll

    Maybe I should submit my bookmarks too to slashdot for publications ?

    I mean, I got 2000 bookmarks, mostly sorted, I'm sure one can find some nice gadgets there too.

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    1. Re:slashdot editors, me too ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just do it instead of asking.

  5. Other links by Prune · · Score: 4, Informative

    you can add to your page include:

    Creative people and projects:
    - http://www.diyaudio.com/ (DIY audio equipment forum)
    - http://sound.westhost.com/projects.htm (audio stuff schematics)
    - http://headwize.com/projects/index.htm (DIY headphone stuff)
    - http://www.hauptwerk.co.uk/pedalboard.html (DIY MIDI pedalboards, just add keyboards and software and you have a MIDI organ)
    - http://www.diysubwoofers.org/ (what it says)
    - http://www.plasmatweeter.de/eng_plasma.htm (DIY ionic tweeter)

    Places to buy stuff:
    - http://www.newark.com/ (major electronics retailer)
    - http://www.mouser.com/ (major electronics retailer)
    - http://www.tubesandmore.com/ (components for vintage electronics)

    Getting stuff made:
    - http://www.olimex.com/ (cheap PCBs)

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    1. Re:Other links by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      http://www.diyaudio.com/ it's an excellent site. I've been building audio gear for a while now and i found that resource invaluable, with contributors as Nelson Pass (from Pass Audio, http://www.passlabs.com/ and http://www.passdiy.com/), Rod Elliot from The Audio Pages, a lot of contributors of Headwize, and quite a few more very knowledgable and technical people.

      Highly reccomended, and glad to see someone mentioned it.

    2. Re:Other links by falzer · · Score: 1

      I was thinking of posting some other links so you wouldn't have to look around, but in true hacker spirit, I think you should DIY.

      Just kidding. For the electronics types:
      http://discovercircuits.com/
      http://www.epanorama.net/

    3. Re:Other links by Mr2cents · · Score: 1

      http://www.eurocircuits.com/ pcb manufacturor, used by elektor.

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    4. Re:Other links by AmmoBox · · Score: 1

      This is a must have site if you are into making parts or duplicating parts like PCBs with any degree of accuracy. Machine your own stuff - http://www.cnczone.com/ (DIY CNC Machine Building)

    5. Re:Other links by sploxx · · Score: 1

      And if you can read german (or look at the pictures, sometimes it's obvious), you'll will have much fun with this site:

      Fingers elektrische Welt.

    6. Re:Other links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Practical Electronics magazine always has interesting articles and projects The current online issue includes "The Life and Work of Konrad Zuse" and "Practical Oscillator Designs" http://www.epemag.com/

  6. Re:troll by RedLaggedTeut · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Troll ? What ? You must mean the /. article ..

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  7. Frankly, by DLR · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This is exactly what I was hoping for! The author shared a very nice resource and now other people are sharing links to cool sites and DIY info.

    Just remember people, there truely is no such thing as an Alpha Geek, so share 'em if you got 'em. But check your ego at the door for a more pleasant experience for everyone, yourself included. TIA for the links.

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    1. Re:Frankly, by TrentL · · Score: 1

      I agree. This is one of the most useful Slashdot articles in a long time. As someone who has just re-entered the world of basic electronics, I find myself bookmarking like crazy this morning.

    2. Re:Frankly, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here is a fabulous resource if you want to do your own foundry and machine work... http://www.lindsaybks.com/dgjp/

    3. Re:Frankly, by Cyclotron_Boy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I couldn't agree more. My cyclotron days were filled with searches (pre-internet) for equipment, surplus, parts, machining supplies, etc. I had to develop lots of stuff on my own. So, I'm writing a book about it. I'm a only 150 pages in, and have lots more to go. Basically, I'm aiming for something about like a "Building Scientific Apparatus" for homebrew particle physics machines. There's a lot of info out there that's buried in 1920s-1960s books on building such machines in the lab that has been more or less fogotten/lost. A list like the above would have helped out tremendously.

  8. Mini-ITX Madness by hedgehog2097 · · Score: 4, Informative

    mini-itx.com - many of the projects on there are very inventive...

    1. Re:Mini-ITX Madness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Without looking at the site:

      - a musicplayer
      - a jukebox
      - a 'media center'
      - a music jukebox
      - a set-top musicplayer
      - a set-top jukebox
      - a set-top music jukebox
      - a set-top 'media center'
      - a 'networked' music player
      - a 'networked' jukebox
      - a 'networked' 'media center'
      - a 'networked' set-top music player
      - a 'networked' set-top jukebox
      - a 'networked' set-top 'media center'

      All for watching legal backup-copies of DVDs and CDs you bought.

    2. Re:Mini-ITX Madness by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      I guess I'd better patent a 'networked' set-top 'media center' on the Internet!

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  9. Sharp Zaurus by MountainMan101 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There's a lot of DIY hacks that use Palms and iPAQs. Not seen so many using the Zaurus (which runs Linux). I have one, and would be interested in following someones example to learn myself.

    The Zaurus 5500 should be an excellent choice for hacking as it have CF socket (could be used to add a hacked PCMCIA card supplying USB host), IR port and Sharp I/O which can be a serial port or USB client.

    Then with the option of QT, Java or C (and even Python and Ruby). It would be easy to prototype on a laptop and then port to Zaurus.

    I built a Garmin GPS to Zaurus cable. But that wasn't exactly challenging!

    Anyone have any interesting links like this?

    1. Re:Sharp Zaurus by sploxx · · Score: 1

      Ahh the palm!
      I'm buying defective palm OS devices on ebay from time to time. It's easy to build fully functional palms (m100/m105) from several scrap ones, at about 10EUR (incl. shipping). Not that you should start buying broken palms on ebay, though :-)

      And uCLinux runs on them!

  10. Some of my favorites: by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 5, Informative

    For electronic parts, you just can't possibly leave out the Electronic Goldmine. They've been around a long time, and in my experience offer the best surplus stuff you can find while charging the least they can get away with. Their bagged assortments are good, and their Electronic Surprise box is actually a good deal if you don't mind sorting through a box of jumbled parts. They also carry many standard components to round out whatever project you're doing.

    If you ever want to build a CNC machine, check out TurboCNC. It's "shareware" in the sense that you are free to download and use the fully-functional, nagless program...and what a program it is. TurboCNC 3 has been used by thousands of hobby CNC'ers, and just recently TurboCNC 4 was released with lots of rewritten code, vastly improved user interface, and better stepping rates. This program will pulse stepper motors up to 30KHz on a junker 486 computer with parallel port, depending on the timer hardware. Version 4 adds Pentium timer support, resulting in pulse rates beyond 100,000Hz. The price rose from $20 to $60 with the release of the new version, but that price is if you feel like supporting Dave and his team, and will get you the full sourcecode to the program.

    For cheap PCBs: nobody can beat Olimex. Yeah, they're based out of Bulgaria, and the first setup of payment can be a little tricky. But you'll get a double-sided board with plated holes, solder mask, and silkscreen...about $25 for 6" x 4" board. What's even better is that you can send them a number of files, then give them a sketch of how you want the boards arranged and repeated in the 6"x4" area...and they will panelize and cut them out for you, free. That's impressive if you've ever checked out the costs of doing something similar with other PCB houses. Many of them give the impression that it's like cheating to try to get more than one board out of the standard board size, even if your design only requires a few square inches. With Olimex I've gotten up to ten boards for that cheap price. It kind of makes you wonder what other ways you can use outsourcing, instead of whining about it and trying to make the government give your old job back.

    By the way, this list has a long way to go before it's the most exhaustive I've seen. For the ultimate in DIY electronics articles and links, try ePanorama, it's been around a long time.

    1. Re:Some of my favorites: by Suidae · · Score: 1

      Just as an example, here are some boards manufactured by Olimex.

      Four boards panelized on a single 4x6 order, double sided, with 2 non-standard drill sizes and over 500 holes (980 something holes for all four boards), came out to $9.50 each, including shipping.

  11. Re:troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, when will you stupid fuckers learn not to include links to personal homepages (butt-ugly ones, too) when trolling?

    I have noticed scans for a webserver running on my home machine, so I set up one at home to have the fun of watching hacking attempts in my logfiles.
    Thank you, but the public part is boring enough.

  12. There's building PCs and Building PCs by KingDaveRa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Back in the days of the Homebrew computer club, you literally did build a PC. These days, whacking a load of PCBs into a case isn't quite the same level of complexity. I remeber telling people I built PCs where I worked and they looked amazed. As far as I was concerned, it was nothing more complex than Lego with static. The hardest part was installing software.

    Things have definately changed.

    1. Re:There's building PCs and Building PCs by J4$0N · · Score: 1

      Man, I remember those days! Like, when the Internet wasn't graphical and you had to use Lynx; and you knew AT Modem commands by heart!

    2. Re:There's building PCs and Building PCs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lynx? how about gopher.

      I remember when I first saw someone downloading music files and I thought to myself "sheesh, what a waste of bandwidth..."

  13. Diy Amplifier by 2$+Crack+Whore · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you are interested in high quality audio, try making a gainclone amplifier - this website has more details:
    http://www.decdun.fsnet.co.uk/
    I made one and the sound quality is fantastic - better than any of the amps I have previously owned.

  14. His next project and profitability by tod_miller · · Score: 1, Funny

    i shot some photos last week in seattle, next project is to outfit the dog with a camera for a week.

    1: Attach camera to dog
    2: make crotchsniffingcam.com
    3: get /.'d
    4: Profit! :-) aaaaw man, I hope his dog doesn't snif around goatsy type people!

    I admit, his project are great, but why did he go sticking those shiney things on his PDA!?

    I was dissapointed he used VNC to make his PDA work...

    The kite pictures are cool though, I might try that with my $11 digicam! :-)

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  15. Low Cost Champ by zbuffered · · Score: 1

    And in terms of low-cost, you can't beat Afrotech.

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  16. CVS Cameras by bhima · · Score: 1

    The guys on linux hacker: http://www.linux-hacker.net/ are doing great things with those CVS & dakota digital cameras

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  17. check this out, then by mattdm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Back in the days of the Homebrew computer club, you literally did build a PC. These days, whacking a load of PCBs into a case isn't quite the same level of complexity. I remeber telling people I built PCs where I worked and they looked amazed. As far as I was concerned, it was nothing more complex than Lego with static. The hardest part was installing software.

    Things have definately changed.

    Yeah, totally. Which was why I was surprised when I heard that one of my co-workers has designed and built (well, is building -- it's a work in progress) one ompletely from scratch. Although he doesn't mention it on the page, he's written games for it and everything. (I said, "does it have games?" and the next week it did). It's pretty much the most amazingly geeky thing I've ever seen, and seriously deserves to get slashdotted. :)

    1. Re:check this out, then by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Nice. A couple things he might look into are: a hard drive interface. IDE is pretty simple to talk to if you don't get too fancy. A few parallel ports, and a little logic. (Roll your own DOS.) The other thing is SmartSockets from Dallas Semi. (I think they still make them.) Slip one in socket under a SRAM chip and it provides battery backup and time/date. (They have other chips that are better if designed in from the start. These are for quick retrofitting.)

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    2. Re:check this out, then by javaxman · · Score: 1
      Wow. That is really, really, really geeky. Quite possibly the geekiest thing I've ever seen on slashdot.

      As impressed as I am, and as much as I understand it's "cool project" and "educational value" and "because I can" aspects, I'm still puzzled as to why you'd do this, other than to keep you off the street and off IRC/crack/whatever...

      Seriously, though, what kind of game did he write for that display? Text adventure? Two-line pong? What?

    3. Re:check this out, then by mattdm · · Score: 1

      Actually, since he's updated that page, he made a VGA-mode graphics board and connected it to a real monitor. So the game (which I haven't actually played yet) is a spaceship piloting thing played on that.

    4. Re:check this out, then by sploxx · · Score: 1

      And there is this guy, who not only build his own computer but also build his own CPU (from TTL chips). The one you're mentioning in the article uses a 6502 (not that it dequalifies it as a "selfmade computer").

      And he also ported the uIP IP stack to it, i.e. it can be run as a webserver.

  18. www.robotroom.com by OneDeeTenTee · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.robotroom.com/

    Robot info, projects, and stuff.

    He writes books also, scroll down a bit for the free content.

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  19. Real DIY champ: afrotech by denthijs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In terms of DIY, not many people can beat that guy
    not many but this one, surely, can:
    http://www.afrotechmods.com/,
    the amazing things this guy does with a computer using only, off the shelf, under a dollar items.
    see http://www.afrotechmods.com/reallycheap.htm for really great mods like the ghetto heatsinks or the paper cooled computer.....

    1. Re:Real DIY champ: afrotech by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 1

      I love this site! Really goes right at the heart of a DIY hacker, not just someone striving to get a few more FPS out of their LN2-cooled high end system.
      Favorite quote, from the section dealing with old monitors: Btw, if you do this wrong, say hi to Jesus for me alright?

  20. Excuse me man, but .. by RedLaggedTeut · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Excuse me man, but I did not specifically include a link to my homepage to that special post, it is standard for me and others on slashdot in my profile.

    I might have included a link to my bookmarks, but unfortunately the up-to-date version isn't online and I'd have to check the links. Sorry.

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  21. This year's score by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    So, this year's score:
    - a bat detector
    - a 3kW dimmer to control the ceiling-lights (I'm living in an old classroom)
    - an iButton lock on the frontdoor
    - lights in my livingroom are controlled by every phone in the house (built from a caller-id box)
    - plants are beeping when soil is dry
    - can control all my IR with LIRC and by phone

    And almost everything is built with parts recovered from old equipment.

    So, does this make me a slashdot-approved DIY warrior or am I just another techno-geek?
    Niels.

    1. Re:This year's score by don_carnage · · Score: 1

      So, does this make me a slashdot-approved DIY warrior or am I just another techno-geek?

      Only if you share the plans for making the plants beep when the soil is dry. What a unique project!

    2. Re:This year's score by slim · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Since you're an AC and I can't message you privately, I'll just have to reply. Beeping soil moisture indicators -- sounds great. How'd you make them, and are they cheap enough to have *lots* in a home?

    3. Re:This year's score by alwayslurking · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's a pretty basic electronics project. We did that before GCSE in CDT at my school. As the soil dries out, its resistance increases. Above a certain resistance, the beeper/light/whatever comes on.

      This looks like a fairly exhaustive recipe
    4. Re:This year's score by don_carnage · · Score: 1

      Neat! Thanks!

    5. Re:This year's score by legirons · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Since you're an AC and I can't message you privately, I'll just have to reply. Beeping soil moisture indicators -- sounds great. How'd you make them, and are they cheap enough to have *lots* in a home?"

      I'm not the AC you seek but you it's a typical high-school technology project. Pity that slashdot can't do sketches (well probably not really..)

      Sensor: double-sided PCB. Solder one connection to each side and stick it in the soil.

      Measurement: Connect a resistor (10K?) and the sensor in series across the power supply. Call the point inbetween them "A". Then connect a potentiometer (variable resistor, 100K?) across the power supply, and call it's centre connection "B"

      Triggering: put A and B as the inputs to a comparator. (like an operational amplifier but more sensitive). Adjust the potentiometer until the output is one voltage when the sensor is wet, and a completely different voltage when it's dry.

      Low-current outputs: connect buzzer, LED etc. between the output of the comparator and the appropriate power connection (choose which one so that it turns on when it's dry, obviously)

      High-current outputs: Send the output of the comparator into the "base" of an NPN transistor, attach its emitter to negative, and put the buzzer between its collector and positive.

      Oscillating output to drive the simplest, cheapeast piezo-buzzers: look up "multivibrator" (oscillator made out of 2 logic gates), or the 7555 timer chip, to see how you can make the output toggle between + and - volts several thousand times per second when it's dry, so you can send that signal to a buzzer.

      Better timed output: lookup how to connect 2 or 3 7555 timer chips in sequence to get something which beeps momentarily every 10 minutes (thus not wasting your battery, but still telling you about the plant's need of refreshment)

    6. Re:This year's score by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      At peoples request I've redrawn the circuit, it's here (4688x3768).
      Unlike the other suggestions this circuit uses an AC current so the electrodes won't corrode (as much). You can connect a huge amount of sensors to the alarm unit, but it is indeed a simple circuit.

      Note that I did not design this circuit so I can't take the credits for it. See the schematic. Instructions included.

      Have fun!

    7. Re:This year's score by c00kiemonster · · Score: 1

      dont have time to look f*&^n win2000 eng , but im trying a similar setup byusing a inverted dish positioned near the plant with wires and a current passing thru , when its wet circut is complete ( no water ) and when its dry water spays . still faffing about with it but lotsa fun , kinda of an overkill for my vege patch....

  22. Cases by StripedCow · · Score: 1

    How about some links/information on making your own cool cases? Is it possible to create your own plastic cases, or do shops exist where you can, say, drop your 3d-studio (or whatever) designs, which will then be fabricated into a nice shiny box? Can this be done cheaply? What kind of materials can be used?

    Of course, the electronic stuff inside is what really counts, but I can imagine a nice look and feel is also important to a lot of DIY artists out there.

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    1. Re:Cases by B1ackDragon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, casing is the hardest part, in my opinion. (then again, I haven't done any home made cd changers or 3d scanners either...)

      I am currently learning to work with stained glass (should make some nice boxes), as well as looking for a local machinist. And don't forget about Front Panel Express, even though I'd really like to find something cheaper...

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      The snow doesn't give a soft white damn whom it touches. -- ee cummings
    2. Re:Cases by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

      If you can find a source for lots of cheap, double sided PC board, it makes great cases. Easy to cut, easy to put together. You can bolt it together using little angle brackets and then solder the edges. Makes great RF tight enclosures.

  23. Alltronics by Smidge204 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Alltronics deals in surplus and salvaged components of all shapes and sizes. There was a US$15 minimum order when last I dealed with them.

    I had some issues ordering stuff, though... after waiting a week and nothing arrived, I e-mailed them about it and said one of the items wasn't in stock and they were waiting for it. Would be nice if they told me that ahead of time... but other than that I have no complaints. (Got my stuff about 5 days later)
    =Smidge=

    1. Re:Alltronics by imroy · · Score: 1

      For us Aussie geeks there's a similar place called Oatley Electronics. A mixture of surplus gear with new stuff and kits. I've never dealt with them but they always seem to have interesting gear.

      There's also Jaycar, which has stuck to the hobbyist theme. It's a shame that Dick Smith sold Dick Smith Electronics all those years ago. Now it mostly focuses on consumer goods (stereos, TV's, CD/DVD players, etc) rather than on components and kits. My dad told me that back in the day, most stores had people that could assist you with kit building.

    2. Re:Alltronics by atrus · · Score: 1

      By a similar name is AllElectronics out of Van Nuys (CA). There is a $6 flat shipping fee, but they have a lot of good quality items. Like lead-acid gel-cell batteries for my UPS (saved about $80 doing it this way vs. through APC), tools, parts, gadgets, barcode scanners on the cheap ($8).

  24. More hardware hackery, sources, and ideas. by Myself · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I always love BG Micro's weird catalog. Don't let the yellow background throw you, it's a mimic of the colored paper they print the dead-tree version on. It's significantly less annoying in that form. Don't count on them for production quantities unless they say so, but some of the small lots of surplus stuff are super cool.

    American Science and Surplus, formerly known as Jerryco carries a broader spectrum of stuff, including plastic replicas of human organs, glow-in-the-dark everything, millitary surplus and yes, a variety of electrical and electronic weirdness. If the Edmund Scientific catalog is too highbrow for you, Jerryco is sure to amuse.

    There are some hardware hackers over at Green Bay Professional Packet Radio whose projects you might enjoy.

    I'm also going to suggest del.icio.us as a good way to collectively manage bookmarks like these. Just go play with it.

  25. Arcade multi-game PCBs by AtariKee · · Score: 4, Informative

    Double Donkey Kong: http://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/store.pl?action =link&sku=DDKUP

    Galaxian Multigame: http://www.btinternet.com/~mike.coates/multigame3. htm

    Atari Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back Multigame
    Tempest/Vortex/Aliens Multigame
    Sega Vector Multigame (Star Trek, Space Fury, Tac/Scan, Eliminator, Zektor)
    Williams Multigame (Robotron, Defender, Joust, Stargate, Splat!, Bubbles)
    Q*Bert Multigame (Q*Bert, FHMC Q*Bert, Q*Bert's Qubes): http://www.multigame.com/KITS.HTM

    There's a multi-Pacman PCB out there somewhere, but I'm not sure who makes them anymore. I know twobits.com used to sell one, as did multigame.com. But there was some legal problems with Namco that led to them disappearing.

    --
    "You're getting brutal, Sark. Brutal and needlessly sadistic."
    "Thank you, Master Control"
    -Sark and the MCP
  26. You insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm throwing everything out. All that "stuff" that you make other "stuff" from, just takes up too much room for today's "less is more" (actually "less is all you get") climate. And less room is one of those things you have less of.

    1. Re:You insensitive clod! by cathouse · · Score: 1

      Actually that would be great! I'm fed up with more and more LESS ROOM and LESS FREEDOM and LESS HONESTY and LESS REAL ANYTHING and... [LESS{less room}]=more room

      --
      Thelma, I'm not making ANY deals.
  27. Come on! by pjt33 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You give a URL for a project involving CVS cameras and you don't tell people to "check it out"?

    1. Re:Come on! by bhima · · Score: 1

      excelent!

      --
      Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
  28. The Guru's Lair by jayrtfm · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don Lancaster has an awsome site at The Guru's Lair
    He wrote the 555 and ttl cookbook, used to have a Computer Shopper column on writing raw postcript, and has thousands of links and articals on DIY.

    1. Re:The Guru's Lair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fantastic! It's just the place to go if you need information to write worms for PS printers!

    2. Re:The Guru's Lair by jayrtfm · · Score: 1

      You, sir. are correct.
      He was one of the first to warn and write about the postcript "virus", along with posting some code to innoculate against it.

    3. Re:The Guru's Lair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I have to read another post with the word 'artical' in it, I swear I'm gonna find a way to teleport my naked, angry body through the upper left green pixel of your monitor and beat you over the head with a 5$ dictionary!
      Is it that hard to spell ARTICLE? Do you also write that the electron is a partical?

  29. Forgot a couple by AtariKee · · Score: 1

    Zektor Vector Generator (a PCI board that plays vector arcade games through a real vector monitor): http://www.zektor.com/zvg/

    Atari 2600 supercart, Colecovision hard drive controller: http://www.widel.com/

    --
    "You're getting brutal, Sark. Brutal and needlessly sadistic."
    "Thank you, Master Control"
    -Sark and the MCP
  30. Here, here by B1ackDragon · · Score: 1

    I second that. I finished my [girlfriend's] gainclone over the summer, and it turned out wonderful. The sound truly does have to be heard to be believed. Pics and details at my page: soma.freeshell.org/audio.php

    --
    The snow doesn't give a soft white damn whom it touches. -- ee cummings
  31. Re:DIY champ, IIS needs some DIY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like his server has too many connections.

    [Insert crap slashbot joke about DIY and slashdotting here]

  32. Seeking hack --PSU -to- audio amp. by ahfoo · · Score: 1

    Anybody have anything on this one?
    I want to make an audio amp out of the parts in a PSU. It doesn't have to be super high powered and it could take purchasing an extra part or two.
    Anybody have any leads?

    1. Re:Seeking hack --PSU -to- audio amp. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'm not too sure... the switching transistor might not have the best characteristics for audio.

      Give it a shot, find a simple audio amp schematic and go from there.

    2. Re:Seeking hack --PSU -to- audio amp. by ahfoo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you're probably right. Just go for it. It's not a question of having power supplies. God, I have tons. I have a variety of simple audio amp schematics too since I've been wondering about this for a long time.
      I'm tempted to just tear into it right now. But as usual I've got a stack of unfinished projects that have to come first or at least by put away before I start something new and unfortunately some of them are too big to be put away. They've just got to be finished.
      I was hoping maybe somebody had tried it and had some pointers. I've had very little results googling for it. I did find that people were using battery chargers to use audio amps in the house. I thought that was rather amusing and on the more refined side there was the Black Widow DIY torrodial power supplies. I even have some nice big 500watt torroids that I considered using to do something like that. But those were more targeted at high power bass end of things. I'm thinking just lightweight midrange and tweeter drivers.
      My interest has actually declined a bit since I found powered PC speakers that sounded surprisingly nice when delegated to just the high end of the frequencies that cost next to nothing. I have six of those in the corners and hidden under the desks in one room along with a big subwoofer and a pair of mid-range towers and that room sounds so freakin' good even with low bit-rate mono Mp3s.
      Still, I do have all those power supplies. I think I have about fifteen of them.

  33. The xgamestation? by FyRE666 · · Score: 3, Informative

    This site was mentioned here a few months back. Basically a stripped down games console, which you can buy/build and then write games/whatever to run on the hardware. The software to program the thing is included. Programming it (using assembler) is very similar to coding for the old VCS console. Since there's no video RAM (unless you choose to add it to the hardware), your code directly controls the output as the raster scans across the screen - meaning you have to actually count the clock cycles in your code to ensure you don't end up with electric soup! I think it also has sound hardware, and there's nothing stopping you adding any other mods.

    There are some demos available for download on the site, with full source etc. I don't work for them or anything, but I'm seriously thinking of buying one so I can dive into some retro-coding ;-)

  34. PCBs by Peter+Simpson · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm partial to ExpressPCB (www.expresspcb.com) for quick-turn cheap 2-sided PCBs. They provide a rudimentary design tool for free (only works with them, though) and you can lay out a PCB one day and have 3 copies in your hands two days later for around $100.

    1. Re:PCBs by hpa · · Score: 1

      If you want free design software, try out Eagle from Cadsoft. They have a free-as-in-beer version for small boards (100x80, two layers), and a cheap license for nonprofit use. Native Linux and MacOS support (their software is written using Qt, so it's pretty easy for them to do.)

    2. Re:PCBs by DrVomact · · Score: 1
      They provide a rudimentary design tool for free (only works with them, though)

      Actually, that's not quite true...it can be...um...made more user-friendly. So far my circuit designs have been pretty simple; if I were serious I'd probably get some high-priced PCB design software. But then it would be work.

      What I do is this:

      1. Draw my circuit using the Express PCB software
      2. Print the design to file using a PostScript printer driver
      3. Open the PS file with PhotoShop
      4. Clean up the artifacts that the software leaves in the image to prevent you from using it.
      5. Save as TIFF or whatever
      6. Print the image on a on an overhead "slide" (I've been using an inkjet, but have decided that it's too hard to get enough density that way, so I'm going to try a laser printer at work next time)
      7. Use the resulting "artwork" to burn my PCBs.

      Personally, I think it's cheating to pay people to make PCBs for you.

      --
      Great men are almost always bad men--Lord Acton's Corollary
  35. Re:w00t w00t by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

    There's someone who's done DIY duct tape? That I'd like to see!

    --
    One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
  36. Internet Radio Device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Free Business idea - create (free ;) Internet Radio Device! Me and my buddies would like to have those but those aren't available yet.

    How could you squeeze a PC into a small box and make it Internet Radio Device? Also note that this device should not make any kind of noise (other than the radio broadcast noise of course). I hate the noice PCs have with all those fans.. I just can't concentrate and enjoy those Internet radio broadcasts if there is a huge machine beside me that makes noise.

  37. Here's two.... by zogger · · Score: 2, Informative

    I really enjoy both of these, some good inspiration (and a lot of perspiration), both are heavy into DIY.....

    You got to see some of the home made inventions, just too cool. You can see what having an itch to scratch, a pile of junk and a welder will bring you. A lot of it results in some practical applications, some decent inventions have been showcased. I get the dead trees version, every page I am going NEAT! I want one! etc...

    Farmshow magazine

    This one is for alternative power, a very good site, Home Power magazine, chock fulla alternative energy products, examples, troubleshooting, resources, etc.

  38. DIY LCD projector with white LED array by kindofblue · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This would be fantastic. I've seen websites where people describe how to make projection screen TVs using LCD panels, mirrors, high lumen lamps, fresnel lenses, etc. They seem to be cheap and easy, but they are hot, and require fans and lots of ventilation.

    What would be better is a high brightness array of LED lights (white of course) to use as the white light source. Some DIY forums have noted that the problem is focusing the light from the array into a controllable direction and even intensity. This is hard because you need so many LEDs to get enough brightness. If this could be cheaply solved, then it would make a great DIY projector.

    Anybody have any luck with this or know any good websites for it?

    1. Re:DIY LCD projector with white LED array by echappement · · Score: 1
      Actually that project was called "De Volksbeamer". Named after the famous first volkswagen, meaning something as "beamer for all the people". A german magazine (From the Praxis -publishers house) featured an article how to build your own.

      A guy in the Netherlands wrote about this more than a year ago on his weblog. It featured a post that included a pdf-file with the scanned article that described how to build the 'volksbeamer'.

      Unfortunately the publisher of the magazine summoned the guy to remove the pdf-file from his website, which he did.

      Whoa.. and now I try a search on the website of the magazine and I've found the full description of how to build the Volksbeamer ! :-) http://www.pcpraxis-networld.de/tmp/volksbeamer.pd f

    2. Re:DIY LCD projector with white LED array by strider3700 · · Score: 1

      I've built one of the DIY LCD projectors but used a 400W metal halide bulb. I love the thing but yeah it gets really hot and needs a lot of active cooling. I looked into LED bulbs as the light source but you need a lot of lumens to get a good picture. Something around 30,000- 40,000 lumens is what my bulb makes if I remember correctly.
      When I checked there were new LED coming out that held promise of making enough light if you used 100 or more of them but they also cost $15 each so I quickly scrapped that idea. Given enough time though I do think LED arrays will become the light source of choice for these projects.

    3. Re:DIY LCD projector with white LED array by madaxe42 · · Score: 1

      40,000 lumens??? With that brightness, you'd probably melt the glass of the lens, and blind anyone in the room at the time. 40,000 lumens is **bright**.

    4. Re:DIY LCD projector with white LED array by mink · · Score: 1

      So far s I can tell from the technical side of the problem, it is not possible until we get much higher output LED tech. Thats why everyone went with lamps.
      I was an active member of a DIY boad about projectors for a while (at the time ie was one of the top discussions on the net about DIY projectors) and no one there no matter how wishful or full of optimism could make do with LED tech. There is simply too much light intensity lost in the process for LED to work except in pitch blackness and even then it's not too bright.

      --
      Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
  39. Favorite DIY by superdan2k · · Score: 1

    I'd think that this is obvious, but my fav DIY guy/group has got to be Burt Rutan and the guys at Scaled Composites. I'm dying to see what they do for a follow-up to SpaceShipOne.

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    blog |
  40. GBA as robotics kit by dr_leviathan · · Score: 1

    These guys sell a little kit for turning a GBA into an embedded prototyping platform:

    http://www.charmedlabs.com/

    They were mentioned on /. about 6 months ago.

    They ported their tools to linux and also sell a bluetooth module.

    --
    Religion is poison to rationality, and we lose sight of that at our own peril. -- Lurker2288
  41. Clickable URLs by upside · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nice links. And here's some karma whoring (not that me needs it).

    Creative people and projects:
    - http://www.diyaudio.com/ (DIY audio equipment forum)
    - http://sound.westhost.com/projects.htm (audio stuff schematics)
    - http://headwize.com/projects/index.htm (DIY headphone stuff)
    - http://www.hauptwerk.co.uk/pedalboard.html (DIY MIDI pedalboards, just add keyboards and software and you have a MIDI organ)
    - http://www.diysubwoofers.org/ (what it says)
    - http://www.plasmatweeter.de/eng_plasma.htm (DIY ionic tweeter)

    Places to buy stuff:
    - http://www.newark.com/ (major electronics retailer)
    - http://www.mouser.com/ (major electronics retailer)
    - http://www.tubesandmore.com/ (components for vintage electronics)

    Getting stuff made:
    - http://www.olimex.com/ (cheap PCBs)

    --
    I'm sorry if I haven't offended anyone
    1. Re:Clickable URLs by Suidae · · Score: 1

      I just got some stuff back from Olimex for my computerized 1971 Impala project:

      Here is an image of the boards.

      They are just basic AVR carrier boards with a perfboard area and space for a MAX233, so I put a little Tux in the silkscreen for geek-appeal.

      Olimex is great, good prices and good quality boards. These four boards came to about $9.50 each.

      I'm going to have Olimex do the next revision of my Binary Clock PCB too, to give it a more professional look.

      I have published some details about the binary clock project if anyone is interested. I really should set up a web page for it, but I have never gotten around to it. The code, such as it is, is GPL.

  42. The hardware was always cheap by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 3, Interesting
    With the cost of IC's, sensors, microcontrollers, and PC's falling through the floor (..)

    If you were 'hardware hacking' a century ago, you might have used wood, rope, nails, old buckets or glass items. These days, it's often electric/electronic stuff like sensors, stepper motors or ucontrollers. Either way, the hardware is always cheap, like ripped out of old equipment. Tradition wants it that way. If you use all new stuff, you're not hacking, but developing new hardware.

  43. Intel's website by jsrodrigues · · Score: 1

    A couple of weeks back, I started off to build my own PC "from scratch".
    I found the following information on Intel's website to be very helpful:
    http://www.intel.com/personal/resources/index.htm
    NOTE: All the above information at this website gives information for building a PC using only Intel branded components (surprise??).
    However, for a first-time PC assembler like myself, it was extremely helpful. I did a lot of reading and I assembled my PC with no problems whatsoever.
    Next time I build my PC, I'll get more adventurous and try "not so well documented but cool" hardware (i.e. AMD alongwith other cheaper priced motherboards). I bought the components at www.zipzoomfly.com and I loved the free shipping and frugal pricing.

  44. building a personal server, or a wireless mp3pod by noworks · · Score: 1

    Nice post, I was wandering lately how one could build a DIY personal server: (http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5772921353.htm l)
    based on mini-ITX mainboards (ok they are not so mini anyway...) to Intel xscale chips. The basic requirement for me is that not only i want to store data in an external disk, but i 'll like to share them and use them (the audio files at least) while i am in the move.

    The requirements would be to have a wireless connected computer with no display, a 2.5in disk and audio in/out, video out in order to use it wirelessly connnected disk and application server. Main functions would be:

    - mp3 listening
    - mp3/video/data sharing (running an ftp/samba server or a p2p program for ad-hoc networks)
    - storage of the email, using a mail client that stores mail and profiles in external disk and web surfing profile. Moreover one could actually install email and web applications on this personal server and run them through X from the computer they using its time for accessing the personal server.

    any ideas for related projects?

  45. emachineshop.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    place to get cases and stuff made:

    http://www.emachineshop.com

    All you gotta do is send them a CAD drawing and the material you'd like it made of.

  46. WTF are you talking about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude he's done like 7 mods in the last month, how many do you want? On his page the bootable ipod mod is from aug 17 2004. Everything above that ie 7 actual hardware mods are MORE recent. If that's consider 'rarely' then you have some really high expectations.

    1. Re:WTF are you talking about? by Vo0k · · Score: 1

      Okay, he made 7 cool mods and boasted how cool they look. But he didn't post any details on HOW he did them. No sources, no plans, no guide, just final results.

      --
      Anagram("United States of America") == "Dine out, taste a Mac, fries"
  47. Me too :) by TeknoHog · · Score: 1
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    Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
  48. Circuit Cellar by seawolf315 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of my good Professors here at RIT introduced me and gets copies of the magazine Circuit Cellar. They are a complete computer hobbyist magazine -- very, very good. They have everything from radio controlled robots to how to add USB to your embedded project.

    Circuit Cellar

    They also host contests constantly which give out free hardware for those with good design ideas! Great for those student needs!

  49. Other "hardware" DIY's ... by xmas2003 · · Score: 1
    Make your own manometer for less than two bucks ... and how to convert your BBQ Grill from LP to NG without winning a Darwin Award.

    And after all that hard DIY work, sit back and enjoy a Hulk Drop Martini ;-)

    --
    Hulk SMASH Celiac Disease
    1. Re:Other "hardware" DIY's ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did, roughly, the same thig this weekend to ballance the two carburators on my motercycle. http://www.650ccnd.com/mano.htm This is the basic plam I used, only I used smaller tubing (because it is what I had) in order to reduce the need for line restrictors.

  50. DIY Tricorder Sources by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

    Hell, just do a google search on "PIC" plus whatever device you are interested in.

    I keep finding more and more goodies to add to my Tricorder project. I found a ton of info on PWM just last night. DAC without a DAC!

    Has anybody found a source for solid state radiation detector modules? You can get complete detectors, but I want the "Cadmium Sulfide Photoconductive cell viewing a Gadolinium OxySulfide scintillating phosphor" module itself.
    (Sounds like Star Trek techno-babble!)

    1. Re:DIY Tricorder Sources by cathouse · · Score: 1

      Don't have any _solid state_ but I'll send you three _glass tube_ detectors about an inch long and a rough hundred assorted neons, 20V peanuts, and LEDs in return for your receipted donation of at least $20 to any org that helps kids with visual impairments. [I couldn't figure out what these DO detect, but it ain't visual, UVa, or near IR and they're just taking up space in a parts drawer]

      --
      Thelma, I'm not making ANY deals.
    2. Re:DIY Tricorder Sources by Mydnight · · Score: 1

      What sensors have you already got in this project? Sounds really interesting... Do you have plans for it anywhere?

      Mydnight

    3. Re:DIY Tricorder Sources by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

      It's still in the concept/design stage. I'm considering radiation, meteorological (temp, pressure, humidity), RF, light and gas sensors. All these sensors are available in one form or another.

      As to the unit itself, it will either be stand alone or a PDA add on. Any PDA with a serial port should work. Bluetooth is also a possibility.

      PIC microcontrollers are so cheap, I may use a seperate one for each sensor.

    4. Re:DIY Tricorder Sources by Mydnight · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a good idea, a PIC controller for each sensor, one to coallate the data, and one to put it into a displayable format. Also, have you considered putting a CF slot in there to log the data/transfer it to your computer? You could probably put a sonar range finder ripped out of an old polaroid camera somewhere as well, from what I hear they are fairly easy to interface with other equipment. Sincerely, Mydnight

    5. Re:DIY Tricorder Sources by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

      Microchip has a new line of DSC (digital signal controller) chips now. They combine a DSP with a microcontroller. I may use one in a later version.

      I am looking at maybe adding an SD slot. I can get an interface off the shelf for that.

      Sonar? Nah, I want a laser range finder. I haven't found a circuit for one yet, though.

      I'm working on the "main unit" (central controller, controls and display) and an RF unit (RF detector and frequency counter) first. With a PIC, a frequency counter is *VERY* simple.

    6. Re:DIY Tricorder Sources by Mydnight · · Score: 1

      I'd love to see the circuit diagrams/source when you are done at least a preliminary design.
      Sincerely,
      Mydnight

  51. Starting in 1971... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    In 1971 I built a stand-alone ALU out of TTL and won a trip to the International Science Fair (which was in Kansas City MO that year). The Fair was won by a guy who's father worked for Burroghs and who built a full computer out of RTL!

    I then built a series of machines using first the 8008, then a completely home-brew SSI (TTL) 8-bit-er of my own design (which amazingly I still own!), then a 6502, an IMSAI (#7) (with my own home-designed floppy disk controller) and finally a 40-bit microword bit-slice (AMD2901) machine that executed UCSD Pascal P-Code!

    It always amazes me when I see those old boards and realize how gloriously primitive (and fun!!!) things were in the days just-before and just-starting in the microprocessor business. When the Altir hit in 1975 I knew true "home-brew" computing was at it's peak.

    1. Re:Starting in 1971... by kjs3 · · Score: 1

      Boy, would I like to see that am2900 design!

    2. Re:Starting in 1971... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know if I still have any of the design docs but I still have the actual prototype :)

      I did it for, of all people, NCR for whom I was working at the time. They had a division that was going to build a 2900-based 8080-equivalent for a database engine (note this was pre-SQL) that was to be written in Pascal. The other division punted and my "hobby" project was green-lighted.

      It eveventually was put into production and shipped in hotel reservation systems for what we now call "emerging" markets (called third-world markets in those days).

      I've been thinking about trying to donate it to the Computer History Museum which is nearby.

    3. Re:Starting in 1971... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That sounds like a wonderful hack. Really encourage you to contact the Computer Museum and see if they are interested.

      On a tangential topic, do you or do you know of anyone who has access to an X86 UCSD Pascal distro? I'd love to run that on my PC which runs other legacy OSs.

    4. Re:Starting in 1971... by kjs3 · · Score: 1

      If you ever come upon the design, do drop me a note. I'm experimenting with my own am2900 designs, and seeing something like that would be invaluable.

  52. DIY Midiboxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    www.ucapps.de / www.midibox.org DIY Midi hardware with GPL'ed firmware... Amazing stuff!

  53. DIY is getting harder in some ways... by kjs3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In some ways, DIY electronics is getting harder. Lot's of logic parts are long out of production and getting harder to find. Those that are still in production are packaged in hobbyist-unfriendly ways (e.g. BGA). I know you can work with these packages with various gyrations, but it's a long way from the straightforward ease of DIPs and wire-wrap.

    1. Re:DIY is getting harder in some ways... by antispam_ben · · Score: 1

      Yes, this IS very unfriendly, but you can still do it if you throw money at it. Look on the newsgroup sci.electronics.design (through groups.google.com or better thru an actual newsreader and feed), there's a service that will mount a BGA chip on a PCB with all the connections brought out to pads so you can access all the pins, er, balls...

      --
      Tag lost or not installed.
    2. Re:DIY is getting harder in some ways... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lots of new parts are still being made in dip packages; logic, microcontrollers, processors, even fpgas. Tons of discrete components are still leaded. In some ways it might be getting harder, but back in the old days you couldn't get today's kind of processing power on a thumbnail-sized chip, either.

  54. Two Dollar Pentiums at Goodwill "99 cent" stores by antispam_ben · · Score: 1

    Dunno if there's one in your area, I'll tell you where mine is, outside Atlanta in Gwinnet County, corner of Pleasant Hill and Club Drive. There's a "regular" Goodwill store where they have $20 computers and $10 monitors, and then there's the 99 cent store next to it where they put things that don't sell in a week or two, which is often the same computers and monitors. These vary from 386's to (I got this one) a 400MHz pentium 3 with usually 1 gig drive, but are fully functional (except for a likely borken WinOS installation).

    Or, gut the electronics and you have a steel project case for two bucks (more recent cases are plastic with thin aluminum shielding inside) - the perfect thing to do with 486 and older machines.

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  55. not as easy by kisrael · · Score: 1

    With the cost of IC's, sensors, microcontrollers, and PC's falling through the floor, we've entered a time where the barriers to entry on hacking neat projects are lower than they've ever been.

    Kind of...on the other hand, the way electronics are hidden in blackbox-chips now makes a lot of gadgets hard to tinker with, and that used to be a good entryway to more DIY...though maybe I'm just lazy and just need to force it so I can hookup a PC to real world hardware...

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  56. Slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    For the inevitable Slashdotting, the links are mirrored here: MirrorDot.

  57. Autorouter? by kjs3 · · Score: 1

    While we are on the topic...anyone know of a reasonably good open-source PCB autorouter?

    1. Re:Autorouter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://pcb.sourceforge.net/

      It is not advertised. But it has the Manchester University autorouter. Works.

    2. Re:Autorouter? by veranikon · · Score: 1
      A freeware (but not open source) option is the trial/noncommercial version of Eagle CAD. It will route PCB's up to 3x4" size.

      http://www.cadsoft.de

  58. Test equipment? by Isao · · Score: 1
    Parts are one thing, but I'm always stretched looking for test equipment. Scopes, probes, meters, function generators, etc. That's the stuff that really burns the budget, and takes up SPACE.

    Anyone have a good suggestion for test gear?

    1. Re:Test equipment? by HeyLaughingBoy · · Score: 1
      Anyone have a good suggestion for test gear?

      One word: eBay.

      Although I tried selling my Teltone Telephone Line Simulator ($200 and it has 2 lines and Caller ID!) without any luck :-(
    2. Re:Test equipment? by Adocso · · Score: 1

      I've got the same problem... My brother built a submersible and I'm doing the control systems. All is going well, but debugging things like valve control (for flushing the ballast) is... Difficult, and since it's just hobby I don't want to go buy the right test equipment. Thus far I've been lucky, but eventually I'll hit something I have to shell out seriously for.

  59. Ultimate DIY project... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    System X at Virginia Tech...http://www.tcf.vt.edu

    Talk about a do-it-yourselfer's dream!

    'nuf said.

    Tech Techie

  60. RATS by daanomsu · · Score: 1

    How about this high school club that built a radio telescope? http://staff.gpschools.org/maciola/webpages/RATSWe bpage/RATS/index2.html

  61. Internet-based tube amps by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 3, Informative

    And an excellent use of new tech to further DIY old tech (with innovation, even!) is the AX84 tube amp guitar project. There are projects of all sizes, an excellent discussion board, and links to lots of goodies. http://www.ax84.com/ Everything from raw schematics to kits.

  62. The hardware was always cheap-Experience expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'll note that the experience was expensive. Either in cost, or time to gain (following a cookbook doesnt make you a hacker cook, just a script cook). Also as pointed out. Some hardware comes in hacker unfriendly packages. Now how many have designed a chip from scratch? The modern day equivalent of tubes, transisters, and wirewrap.

  63. Goldurn kids these days... by NickFusion · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Building PCs from scratch was cool when there were no PCs at Walmart. But today...much like building a horseless carriage, or a vacuum-tube radio.

    This is the same way electric motors used to be cool. I remember when I was a wee lad that every handyman had a few electric motors lying about, one big one usually strapped to the workbench, with a bunch of belts to power a number of different devices. Motors were still fairly expensive and bulky, so they tended to dominate the workbench.

    Then electric motors became completely ubiquitous, and they mostly vanished from sight, embedded into everyday devices, hair dryers, coffee grinders, RC Cars. What became interesting was not the motor itself, but all the cool and unexpected things you could do with it once it got cheap enough, and small enough.

    So yeah, a DIYer could sit down today and build a motor (or a computer) completely from scratch, but it becomes an exercise in nostalgia, like hand-crafting a canoe, or building a replica of the Wright Brothers plane. Which is cool in it's own way, but somewhat eccentric.

    So the moder-day DIYer, like the scientist in Cronenberg's "The Fly," we find ourselves in the role of sythesists, taking off-the-shelf parts to make interesting & unusual new gizmos, or taking an existing technology and bringing it into the realm of the handyman's workshop.

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    1. Re:Goldurn kids these days... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Building an electric motor doesn't need to be an exercise in nostalgia. Build an insane-performance Permanent Magnet Syncronous motor, complete with sensorless vector control.

  64. PCB, FPGA, component resources by wramsdel · · Score: 0

    For PCBs, be sure to check out Barebones. I've done a couple of runs through them, including one involving a chip-scale BGA package, and they did a great job. They're really a front for one of the previously-mentioned PCB operations, Advanced Circuits. For FPGA and CPLD prototyping, definitely go to Digilent. I've bought a few products from them and have been consistently impressed. Finally, it's probably an obvious choice, but eBay is always a good resource too. Many deals can be had in the "Electronic Components" category of their "Business & Industrial" section.

  65. Machining/CNC by wramsdel · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If you're into machining and CNC-type projects, be sure to check out 5 Bears Research. The author of the site has done some absolutely phenominal work. Be sure to check out his CNC mill section if you're thinking about making your own. Also, there are tons of homebrew jet engine sites, including more than a few that look to be destined for a Darwin Award. None of them is funnier than this site, though. Enjoy.

  66. Programmable logic galore by hpa · · Score: 1

    One of the "silent revolutions" that has happened over the last 10-20 years is the tremendous drop in cost of programmable logic -- highly integrated microcontrollers, CPLDs, and FPGAs. It's really only in the last few years that FPGAs in particular has come down in price to the point where they're feasible to be used in amateur projects. In many ways these have brought back the freedoms that used to exist back when there were no application-specific integrated circuits (ASICs); today, with an FPGA costing in the ballpark of $20 even a hobbyist can build a fairly sophisticated, custom integrated circuit for a project.

    1. Re:Programmable logic galore by WaveDave · · Score: 1

      The "Hacking the XBox" book has some nice discussion of using FPGA's...

  67. great parts store by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.bgmicro.com/

    This site doesn't have the greatest selection, but if you keep your eyes on it there are some really sweet deals at time.

  68. More serious sources by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative
    Here are the sources anyone serious needs to know about.
    • Digi-Key and, to a lesser extent, Mouser. Digi-Key has become the standard source for electronic components. On-line order turnaround is really fast. Order today, receive tomorrow. Their web site has the data sheets for most of their parts, too.
    • Berg and Stock Drive Products. These are the standard sources for small gears, couplings, and other small moving parts.
    • Grainger and McMaster Carr Larger, general-purpose industrial products like pumps, valves, motors, and belting.

    These books are always useful:

    • The Art of Electronics by Horowitz and Hill. How to get stuff done with electronic parts. A bit dated, but very useful on the analog side.
    • Machinery's Handbook If you have any machine tools, you need this. If you have a mill, you probably have a copy already.

    Everybody accepts credit cards now. There's no problem ordering from real suppliers.

    1. Re:More serious sources by WaveDave · · Score: 1

      "Practical Electronics for Inventors" is another good resource for the electronics hobbyist

  69. cnc in black and white by poptones · · Score: 1
    Hey buddy.. how can you mention cnc without mentioning this one? I mean, turbocnc is alright and all, but it IS still "shareware" and, as such, not completely Free with the big F.

    And if you're gonna talk diy cnc, don't forget the most obvious one: ebay. Lots of bargains to be had for the careful shopper - just know your price and stick to it.

    1. Re:cnc in black and white by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 1

      I tried EMC, I hate it. Plus, it requires either an expensive servo-driver card, or a fast PC (600MHz-1GHz) while TurboCNC runs fine on a 486.

      TurboCNC is free as in beer, you only pay if you want the source code or want to support Dave. As far as I know, no other CNC program comes close in terms of performing on extremely inexpensive hardware with excellent results, and no one else offers the option of looking at the source code and making your own tweaks. Some regular users of TurboCNC have made hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years, due to his program...I think it's more than fair for him to let you use the program without paying. Plus, I've talked to Dave in person, which is more than I can say for the EMC developers. I'm not going to discount a program just because it doesn't have a Sourceforge page.

  70. Microcontrollers by glindsey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have to point out the incredibly useful Atmel AVR series of microcontrollers. Inexpensive ($2 to $8 each), easy to program (there's a GCC port readily available), entirely Flash-based, and pretty powerful for eight-bit microcontrollers. There's a large hobby development community over at AVRFreaks; if you're interested in homebrewing some great projects, check it out!

  71. holy jesus, no one mentioned cockeyed.com yet! by dea9 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    seriously, it's run by Rob Cockerham who is my fookin hero. He's hardcore DIY, but not really on the tech side but more on installations for entertaining social engineering (read: pranks).

    Also, check his killer Halloween costumes, which are good enough to win at the ILM party!

    http://cockeyed.com

  72. Re:troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  73. Don't forget Circuit Cellar Magazine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I first read articles from Steve Ciarcia in some early issues of Byte Magazine (I subscribed to Byte due to his and Jerry Pournelle's articles.) But those things are history. Go to http://circuitcellar.com/ for some interesting projects.

  74. AVR GNU tools under Linux anyone? by getnuked · · Score: 1

    I have a build script and all the tarballs on my site, in case anyone is interested in hacking with the AVR under Linux!

  75. The homeBREW vs homeBUILT wars by WebCowboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not yet 30 and I remember the flame wars on Usenet. I regularly lurked the homebrew groups there about 8 to 10 years ago--just before and during the time I was putting together a simple wire-wrapped system consisting of an M68K and mostly 74LS series logic chips. There were two noteworthy camps:

    1. The Gods of the geek world--those who'd pat you on the head and say "nice beginner project--good luck and keep it up son" at the site of project like mine. These were the types who could've been founding members of the Homebrew club back in the day, and figured REAL men didn't need a stinkin' processor to make a PC--just a bunch of SSI TTL Logic. If you really wanted to test your mettle you built it using discrete transistors.

    2. The AOL generation of "home brewers" who fancied themselves experts becasue they could screw a 486 Motherboard and some cards into a PC case...they were the "home builders" and endlessly posted questions about BIOS configuration, jumper settings and IRQ conflicts.

    Sadly, despite the fact that it was stated loudly and clearly in the FAQ and repeatedly in flame posts what the group was intended for, AND despite a group being put together for bome built DOS PCs, the second group still drowned out the first--DRAM refresh circuitry and address decoding was beyond their comprehension, but cross-posting was not.

    Now homebrew seems to mean adding backlit LCD status panels, neon lights, cut-out windows and a coat of day-glo Tremclad. This is a fun hobby to be sure and I enjoy what comes out of it as much as I enjoy going to car shows. However, it isn't really homebrew to me. Cramming an ITX motherboard into as many odd containers as possible just doesn't have the same mystique...

  76. DIY grappling dummy + other homebrew gym equipment by crasch · · Score: 2, Informative

    DIY grappling dummy (Plus lot's of other homebrew equipment).

  77. yeah, dude... but he's a flake. by poptones · · Score: 1

    Certified. He hangs about in usenet forums like "alternative architecture" and "alternative energy" and espouses some seriously stupid ideas. It's like he's gone from "you can DIY" to "that won't work at all." Very negative, and very weird.

  78. Don't forget the "$14 Steadicam" by jam42 · · Score: 1

    Previously mentioned on /. I built one very similar to the original design (plus camera inverter for floor-level shots) and I love it. Here.

  79. Hackers can be low- or high-budget by dstone · · Score: 1

    If you use all new stuff, you're not hacking, but developing new hardware.

    No, I disagree. If you use "all new stuff" in unforseen, questionable, or previously-considered-impossible ways, then you are most definitely hacking.

    Hacking requires passion and looking beyond the limits of existing systems (in this case, hardware components). I don't believe it matters if those components are new or salvaged, if you're bolting them together in brilliant and bizarre ways.

  80. Phidgets? by musicxml · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I heard about Phidgets - USB sensors, motor controllers, and the like - from the JMSL mailing list. They look cool - has anyone tried them out?

  81. Cheap and Easy LCD's? by Dj+Superfly · · Score: 1

    Kudos to David Merrill for starting this thread. This post has been a goldmine of usefulness even above and beyond the usual /. fare. One thing I haven't seen covered yet is any places that sell (relatively) cheap LCD screens. Anyone out there know somewhere that sells LCD's either in a totally raw state or in a format that's a bit more usable? This would ideally be an LCD that had some simple power and video input that I could embed in various art projects without having to get a degree in electronics - I could do some basic wiring but I'm not particularly in the habit of hacking together cables and power supplies. I guess I'm looking for either OEM LCD's with very good instructions or some semi-finished thing that doesn't cost what a finished LCD monitor or mini-dvd screen would go for, Thanks Superfly

    1. Re:Cheap and Easy LCD's? by John+Miles · · Score: 1
      Anyone out there know somewhere that sells LCD's either in a totally raw state or in a format that's a bit more usable?

      http://www.earthlcd.com


      eBay
      (see Home > All Categories > Business & Industrial > Electronic Components > Semiconductors, Actives > LCDs, Displays)

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  82. computerchristmas.com by Paul+d'Aoust · · Score: 1

    Computer Christmas is pretty much a two-trick pony, but both of those tricks are extremely exciting and have a lot of potential when it comes to interfacing your computer to the real world. One group of projects deals with multiplexing your 8-line parallel port into a 256- or 1000-line switching machine of wonder (think about being able to turn that many LEDs on and off!). The other group of projects deals with interfacing these boards to the mains in clever ways, using triacs and SSRs and the like.

    The focus is on Christmas light displays, but you could conceivably use it for all sorts of things... besides turning a plethora of LEDs on and off, you could make pinwheels spin when you have e-mail, or turn your house lights on and off at certain times, or tie a resistor network to a set of pins and make things fade in and out with the volume of your music. Wheeeee!

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  83. Linux Toys by chuckw · · Score: 1

    Not to toot my own horn or anything ;) Chris Negus and I wrote a book on just this topic called "Linux Toys". Check it out if you're interested.

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  84. my favourites by toby · · Score: 1

    homebrewcpu.com

    Chuck Dickman's cool hardware projects including a QBus-ATA adapter

    Peter McCollum has just finished a great hack involving a PDP-11 microprocessor (T-11).

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  85. Halloween DIY Projects by WildRice · · Score: 1


    The folks on the various Halloween mailing lists have contributed over 600 DIY project HowTo's which have been collected by a member. Some pretty inovative animatronic stuff there. Take a look at

    http://www.markbutler.8m.com/monsterlist.htm

    to see how they make their magic. -Chuck-

  86. Free software for DIY projects by saccade.com · · Score: 2, Informative

    What's really cool these days is the amount of free software available for DIY electronics. I'm not talking about free as in GNU, but free as in beer. Want to design your own digital chips? Get your free WebPack FPGA design software. Want to do your own circuit boards? Get your free CAD software... Want to program your embedded product? Most chip companies have free development tools.

  87. Re:The hardware was always cheap-Experience expens by anubi · · Score: 1
    In my case, the hardware has been damn near free. Usually something discarded.

    I could not bear to see such a magnificient collection of exotically machined parts going off to the landfill, so I would snare that printer, copy machine, computer, whatever, and cart it home to take apart.

    But the experience? Pure labor. Extremely time consuming. But then, in return, I get to see exactly how the thing worked, and often gain great insights on why it failed, which obviously lead to its decommissioning.

    I feel its given me one helluva education of practical machine design, as I have many working designs ( err... "partially working") in my repertoire to call on when I need something similar. If they had failed, I know why and how to sidestep around that in my design.

    I figure I must have over a million dollars worth of my time invested in my education via "tinkering"... but then I would rather tinker than watch TV any day of the week.

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  88. MegaSquirt DIY Electronic Fuel Injection by nooch · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of the coolest DIY projects around is the MegaSquirt DIY EFI kit. Designed by Bruce Bowling and Al Grippo and supported by enthusiasts world-wide, they have created a cheap and highly effective fuel injection computer that you can easily assemble with a soddering iron and a little time.

    Check the MegaSquirt project out on the web at http://www.msefi.com/ or check out the software at http://megasquirt.sourceforge.net/ (disclaimer: I am one of the Project Admins). A good resource for those interested in MegaSquirt is at http://www.not2fast.com/ (which has a number of other interesting technical articles and programs), which I host through my site, wryday.com!

    I built my Squirt without too much trouble, and I am no electronics whiz. It's a great experience, building your own computer, soldering transistors, resistors, capacitors and chips, and producing something quite useful. I have yet to install my MS into my project rally car (an 86 VW GTI), but you can bet she'll be flying when I dial in the fuel maps!

    Bowling and Grippo have also developed other kits for related applications, such as ignition and spark controllers. Check out the http://msefi.com/ site for more info.

    Cheers,

    -Joe

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  89. DIY 8080 by nsaspook · · Score: 1

    One of my DIY computers from about 1979. Video was 1024x1024 1 bit with a 80 line character overlay. 8080 processor code was downloaded from the main 8080.

    http://mysite.verizon.net/res02dad/sitebuildercont ent/sitebuilderpictures/ht_pictures_012.jpg

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  90. Nuts And Volts by gleman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Lots of DIY stuff here.

  91. 100x100mm Arm based linux computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://dlharmon.com/sbc.html

  92. commonsound collective of audio innovators by screeble · · Score: 1

    http://commonsound.com/

    A bunch of whacked out guitar effects you can build in your home using printed out templates glued to cardboard. The ultimate DIY electronics project.

  93. that ain't homebrew... it's modding by poptones · · Score: 1
    Modders have also been around for ages - but you're not talking about homebrewing. Hit the audio forums, read old issues of The Audio Amateur and see the modders that came before ye.

    I think casemodding could be cool, but most of them I find seriously boring. Whoopee, we take a square case and add windows and lights! The mini-ITX stuff i find similarly drab with very few exceptions. The one where the guy made an anime girlfriend is cool but not because it's a computer, just because it's a good DIY if you want to learn to sculpt with plastic.

    When I was sixteen I was expelled from school because I had skipped so much they told me not to come back. I went to RETS (electronic vo-tech) for a while because I thought I could get some accreditation. I had to spend hours in the library every day so to occupy my time I wire wrapped a 6502 based computer on four vector cards. A few years later I modded my VIC20 into a square box, detached keyboard (six foot ribbon cable from radio shack!) and had a general ball with both, but in the end they were fairly useless because it was "computing for computing's sake." Look what you can do now - take an old (useless, free) PC, attach some motors on the parallel port and make a milling machine, or a motor for your telescope, or a large scale printer that will let you do CNC graffiti on the side of a building - and just about anything else you can imagine... using materials that can often be found on the side of the road.

    I like to work with tube stuff too - there's no reason you can't still do ALL this stuff. You also can't trivialize what DIYers can do today with the raw materials at our disposal.

    It's not worse or less... it's just different.

  94. Some of my favorites: Simulators. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's no CNC simulators. Same with PLC's.

  95. Building a RISC System on a Chip in an FPGA by Jan · · Score: 1

    [Tooting my own horn] please see my Circuit Cellar article series at http://fpgacpu.org/xsoc/cc.html:

    "The articles present the design and implemention of the XSOC System-on-a-Chip, including the new xr16 pipelined RISC processor core, on-chip bus, bus/memory controller, and integrated peripherals (parallel port, bilevel VGA controller), all in a single Xilinx XC4005XL FPGA, and also describe a port of the lcc4.1 retargetable C compiler, an assembler, simulator, and demos."

    Nowadays, with the advent of big FPGAs, Altera and Xilinx system builder products, and Nios and MicroBlaze soft cores, this is more or less "push button".

  96. PCBs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Let's not overlook the ability to etch your own PCBs amongst the discussion of PCB fabrication sites. The following site is a detailed description of one process for making PCBs, that seems to work well.

    http://www.fullnet.com/u/tomg/gooteepc.htm

  97. Unfortunate name by tepples · · Score: 1

    No way am I buying an eMachines computer in the near future.

  98. motion sensors for music by mathgenius · · Score: 1

    I am part of a trio that uses motion sensors to perform sound art:
    Hypersense Complex
    These are custom built microcontroller / USB devices.

    We are currently exploring the use of accelerometers, with a view towards full motion capture. However, this is a difficult problem to solve, as gravity provides a constant acceleration offset. Another area we will be looking at is useing wireless chips, eg. the honeywell ROC chips.

    Simon.

  99. don't forget about DIY jet engines by majid_aldo · · Score: 0
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  100. Re:w00t w00t by cwebb1977 · · Score: 0

    Sorry, I'm not gay, Mr. 217.81.13.85

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