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Evolution 2.0 Released, Screenshots
comforteagle writes "This seems to be slow getting out, but since Novell hasn't updated their site ... Evolution 2.0.0 has been released. Most importantly it has built in JunkFilter support with SpamAssassin, web calendars, and NNTP support. Oh, and some bugfixes. I've posted some screenshots today as well."
Evolution 2.0 was created in a mere 7 days (with 1 of them being for rest).
Actually, this looks so gray and bland compared to Outlook -- needs some color to spice it up -- even on the default theme.
I see links to the usual *nix builds. There was some talk a while ago, sparked by Eugenia's interview on osnews.com with Miguel de Icaza, that Evolution 2.0 would be fully cross-platform.
Oh well. Guess I stay with Thunderbird.
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For some reason Evolution has ALWAYS been faster on my machine than Thunderbird or Mozilla mail. Plus looking at the screenshots it looks like they've simplified Evolution even more, so I'm hoping it'll be that much nicer. Of course it still looks like an Outlook clone...
It would be great for folks to realize that writing apps cross-platform is one of the single best ways to get TONS of adoption, and ease any eventual transitions to Linux.
I'll bet that despite being more featurefull, Evolution will be trounced be Thunderbird in terms of usage in the foreseable future.
But cool to see a very swanky looking release.
It wasn't in the new feature list, but Evolution 2.0 is the one that's supposed to include the GPL'ed Exchange connector, as well as support for Novell's mail server (I forget the name.)
I use it, have been for over a week now. Or something.
:)
I find it is significantly faster all around, the interface is cleaned up and feels easier to use.
I haven't experimented with junk mail yet.
The only thing I wish I could do in evolution is have just the email client, I don't use any of that other shit.
I use gentoo as well, so USE=-bullshit would be nice
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Getting this ported to Windows??? I know alot more people would be using it if they did that.
Yeah. That is such an uncommon situation. I can't imagine the lack of forethought that went into the code to allow that bug to ship for a major version release.
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84? Yeah I suppose some people might refer to that as "some screenshots". May I suggest
"A fuck of a lot" as an alternate quantifier?
-Laxitive
Yeah, rewrite a whole application just for the sake of it. Good idea, really ;)
All this new configurability and extensibility in Evo 2.0 is great, but what I'd really like to see is some better documentation for the "Evolution Data Server" (basically the Camel and Wombat API's). Ximian/Novell are hoping that the community will be excited about writing "snap-ins" to extend Evo's functionality, but what about those of us who would like to, for example, connect it to other back-end data stores? There's a "connector" for Groupwise and a "connector" for Exchange ... what if I want to write a "connector" for some other groupware server? (I'm asking this question because I do want to do exactly that.) These API's are barely documented. You have to reverse-engineer the existing connector code to get anything done with it. I'd like to see some real docs.
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I'm really disappointed. It seems they were in such a rush to release 2.0.0 with Gnome 2.8.0 that they left a pretty glaring problem.
/. article about switching from Linux to Windows saying? Problems with programs, support, etc? Releasing a "stable" 2.0.0, exiting the beta 1.5.x series, and having a problem that prevents alarms from working properly if you leave Evolution running overnight certainly doesn't make me very confident.
From their Known Issues: 2) Alarms don't work properly if Evolution runs past midnight
That's a pretty fundamental flaw for a program that is supposed to be essentially an Outlook replacement.
I commend Novell for their overall Linux efforts, but rushing things to release for the sake of making a date with this type of flaw seems like a dangerous way to conduct business.
It is things just like this that give some people enough pause to NOT deploy open source solutions. What was the earlier
Hopefully 2.0.1 will be released VERY soon.
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Or why didn't they write it in Python ? Or C++/Qt (Which is Novells preferred platform on Linux/SuSE) ?
The question to ask is _why_ should they write it in C# ?! I for one
don't need the extra slowness and memory usage introduced by mono.
The layout of that window on the screenshots is almost identical to Outlook 2003, right down to the buttons in the bottom left and the search bar at the top.
Open source shouldn't content itself with stealing good ideas, that's Microsoft's job. Surely we can come up with something innovative, and I'm not using the Microsoft definition.
It would be great for folks to realize that writing apps cross-platform is one of the single best ways to get TONS of adoption, and ease any eventual transitions to Linux.
Yes, but as OS's (like OS/2 fer instance) found out, having that application compatibility can be a double edged sword. You might ease the transition, but you also potentially negate one of the motivating factors as well as providing your competition (i.e. MS) with a marketing edge (why switch because you can still run your "free" apps on Windows) and (Windows has tons of Windows only apps, PLUS it'll run the open source apps that count).
Oops! Here's the linky
It appears that Evolution 2.0 adds some aupport for Novell's mail system, GroupWise.
There's an article in this month's Novell Connection Magazine on how to set it up, complete with a bunch of screen shots.
Novell added support to run the GroupWise backend on Linux recently (late last year or early this year, I can't remember). In fact, most of the GroupWise servers this year at Brainshare were running Linux instead of NetWare!
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Yes, not inline(!) though. Which most other mailers seem to use.
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This is what bugs me about installing Linux apps... the ASSLOAD of separate stuffs you have to download, configure, build/install. Why not just bundle everything up nicely? OpenOffice manages to do this.
BTW., anyone else notice that newegg.com has been dead for a few hours?
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Score: 5, Informative?
How is this informative? They didn't rewrite Evolution in Mono because that would have involved rewriting hundreds of thousands of lines of code, for little benefit.
No comment.
I just got Evo 2.0 set up on my laptop, with the new Mandrake 10.1. While I've been having trouble getting my Palm sync'd correctly, I have to say, the new calendar feature is great.
You can subscribe to the same web calendars used by Apple ICal and Mozilla Sunbird/Calendar. But you can also drag events to a personal calendar, where you can synchronize it with a PDA. You can select any set of calendars to publish for Free/Busy (it looks like it can merge multiple calendars, but haven't tested), and you can then attach the URL for your calendar to your VCard, send to other Evolution recipients AND Outlook users, and they can see when you're available to schedule a meeting.
I've been waiting for these features for months--it promises to be the best of all worlds for calendaring. Now to see if it delivers!
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No.. there is no formal connection between Mono and Evolution, although both are products of Ximian.
A very good read is this piece by Havoc Pennington, of GNOME fame.
Basically he says that there are ideas that integrating some high-level, sandboxed platforms like Mono/.NET and/or Java into the Linux desktop. (or more specifically, GNOME)
He also says that they're not going to use Mono or Java in Gnome (and where Gnome goes, Evolution goes) until there is some kind of road-map on which technology should be used and how.
Personally, I find Java more compelling. C# may be a nicer language, but there is no control over which direction the class libraries will take. The Java Community Process is at least a somewhat open alternative.
Not only will it work, but it is now included with Evolution, GPLed, and free of charge.
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IANAL, but I have a bit of a tendency to be a bit of a conspiracy theorist... :-)
I would have to agree, and I'll add that Kontact is a very nice Evolution replacement.
I had been using Evolution (1.4) for some time (1.5 years?) and generally liked it. I installed 2.0 and I was really disappointed. Evo 1.4 would crash occasionally on me, and I was dissapointed that 2.0 continued this annoying behavoir. Even more frustrating were they incredible delays I saw in manipulating mail on my imap server. I hoped these problems would dissapear with 2.0 but they did not. Add to this the fact that I, like others, was underwhelmed by the new UI and color scheme, and suddenly I was in the market for a new PIM.
As a KDE user, the natural first step was to give Kontact/Kmail a try. I've barely been using it a week and I've fallen in love. It syncs with my palm V, just like Evo, I find it to be more customizable than Evolution was, and so far it hasn't crashed. So far I have liked every aspect of Kontact as well or better than the Evolution equivalent. Best of all, mail operations on my IMAP server as fast as ever, like they should be. I don't know WTF is wrong with Evo's IMAP support but Kontact/Kmail did it right, and I'm now a convert. So long Evolution!
Does anyone know if multisync http://multisync.sourceforge.net/ still works with Evolution 2.0? I am using Evolution 1.4.6 and Multisync 0.82 and I will not upgrade Evolution until I know that it will continue to work.
...2 weeks ago! Congratulations!
;-)
Didn't anyone notice this was released as part of GNOME 2.8?
Wow, wait! GNOME 2.8 is out? Jeez...!