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Evolution 2.0 Released, Screenshots

Posted by timothy on from the yummy-looking dept.

comforteagle writes "This seems to be slow getting out, but since Novell hasn't updated their site ... Evolution 2.0.0 has been released. Most importantly it has built in JunkFilter support with SpamAssassin, web calendars, and NNTP support. Oh, and some bugfixes. I've posted some screenshots today as well."

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  1. Remarkably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Evolution 2.0 was created in a mere 7 days (with 1 of them being for rest).

    1. Re:Remarkably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Coincidentally, God was the winner of the very first Darwin Award. ;)

    2. Re:Remarkably by Skeezix · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually you are wrong. Even more amazingly it was created by millions of monkeys typing randomly on typewriters over billions of years.

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    3. Re:Remarkably by AceCaseOR · · Score: 2, Funny
      Actually you are wrong. Even more amazingly it was created by millions of monkeys typing randomly on typewriters over billions of years.

      Well, if you want to be nitpicky it was created by millions of monkey's banging on typewriters... but I digress...

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    4. Re:Remarkably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They shouldn't have rested...

      What's up with this one screenshot?

      here the text boxes are all going off the little window part??

    5. Re:Remarkably by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm not sure I want to think about monkeys banging their typewriters...

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    6. Re:Remarkably by Yeochee · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Every month since June, the number of Iraqis and American Troops who have died has increased"
      It would be weird if the number of dead would have decreased, unless the US army is experimenting with zombies of course.

  2. Needs more cowbell. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, this looks so gray and bland compared to Outlook -- needs some color to spice it up -- even on the default theme.

    1. Re:Needs more cowbell. by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He's right! The look is downright depressing and simply lacks any sort of contrast.

      'Default' should be good for 95% of all users. This default theme sucks, no offense to the developers.

      The only colors used in the program are shades of grey and brown. Did they use the old DOS Doom color palate? The curved lines are a nice start, but they've still got to make it less boxy.

      I'm frankly surprised at this, that the combined minds of novell and SUsE who have traditionally been rather good UI designers have let something like this be released.

      Even the toolbar is cluttered.

      For starters, draw all new icons. These ones suck from an artistic standpoint. Applications should be pleasant to look at. It makes users happy. Take a cue from OS X mail.app and change 'Send/Receive' to 'Get Mail' -- much more human-readable and less wordy. Group reply and reply-to-all under one drop down list similar to the one used for 'New' (but make that darn arrow smaller). Do you really need 'Print' on the toolbar? It's debatable, but you won't loose much functionality by removing it. Finally, 'Cancel' -- the button has no definite function. WHAT exactly are you cancelling? Why would you want to? Mail readers don't exactly do long intensive operations that one would normally want to cancel. 'Not Junk' is also unnecessary. If it's not 'junk', I think we can assume that it's also 'not junk' DUH!

      The rest of the app ain't bad. It looks like most other mailreaders. The left pane is also nice, though the icons should all be redrawn, and the icons for Mail/Contacts/Calendars should scale to be as big as the buttons and be nice and visually appealing.

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    2. Re:Needs more cowbell. by ad0gg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know why your post is modded funny. It should be insightful. Flashy interfaces mean a lot to people. How many people buy a car on the way it looks? Simple marketing, flashy interfaces makes product look well built. Same goes with websites.

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  3. Win32? by CdBee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I see links to the usual *nix builds. There was some talk a while ago, sparked by Eugenia's interview on osnews.com with Miguel de Icaza, that Evolution 2.0 would be fully cross-platform.

    Oh well. Guess I stay with Thunderbird.

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    1. Re:Win32? by Noksagt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Great point, but cygnome is a somewhat viable way of porting gnome apps.

  4. No job, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because anyone with one would know today is Monday.

  5. For Some reason... by ajiva · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For some reason Evolution has ALWAYS been faster on my machine than Thunderbird or Mozilla mail. Plus looking at the screenshots it looks like they've simplified Evolution even more, so I'm hoping it'll be that much nicer. Of course it still looks like an Outlook clone...

    1. Re:For Some reason... by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 4, Interesting

      > Of course it still looks like an Outlook clone...

      That's something that's annoyed me with a lot of apps. What's with the gigantic fischer-price GUIs? are enterprise people attracted to that sort of thing?

    2. Re:For Some reason... by Noksagt · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not as good as native, but 1.4 (maybe higher too) seems to run on cygwin.

    3. Re:For Some reason... by tomboy17 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, the reason for big buttons (which is what I think you mean by "fischer-price") is simple: Fitts' law: The time to acquire a target is a function of the distance to and size of the target.

      In other words, it's a hell of a lot easier for a user to press a big button than it is for user to press a small button. (Even better than big buttons are the edges of the screen, which are effectively infinitely wide/tall).

      Unless you're on a tiny screen and need to maximize real-estate, you're much better off with big buttons. Hard to believe I know.

      (I used to be a fluxbox/ratpoison kind of guy myself, but I've discovered GNOME + good key bindings + F11-to-go-fullscreen-when-I-need-it is really much easier to get around)

  6. Linux apps on Windows by augustz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It would be great for folks to realize that writing apps cross-platform is one of the single best ways to get TONS of adoption, and ease any eventual transitions to Linux.

    I'll bet that despite being more featurefull, Evolution will be trounced be Thunderbird in terms of usage in the foreseable future.

    But cool to see a very swanky looking release.

    1. Re:Linux apps on Windows by Jahf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So if I read you and the parent correctly ... if I write an application that is not compatible with Windows it is inherrently not cross platform?

      Let's see ... Evo runs on Linux, *BSD, Solaris ... probably on OSX if you take the time ... but it is not cross-platform?

      I say bunk to that.

      I agree that by not running easily on Windows (though there is always CygWin) the adoption rate will not be as high as it could be.

      I would disagree that that is a bad thing.

      And I would posit that there are probably statistically nearly as many Evo users out there today as Thunderbird. That will change ... but the vast majority of Windows users still use Outlook.

      No, I don't have any facts to back up my last paragraph, but at least I know what "cross-platform" means.

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    2. Re:Linux apps on Windows by daVinci1980 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      God, I totally agree. I would use Evo in a heartbeat if it were available on Windows. (And no, I cannot switch, I develop products for x86/Windows).

      To the other poster who suggests that it would not be possible, desirable, or easy to support cross platforms... That's total bunk. I used to develop commercial apps that ran on Windows, Linux, Mac/OS9 and OSX. It *does* require a bit more work, but in practice, it's actually not much more work than supporting one OS.

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    3. Re:Linux apps on Windows by daVinci1980 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, no. There are a few places that differ a bit (user experience), but in general, the code just works. The trick is where your toolkit lies. Too close to the underlying APIs, and you're right--the software is for one platform, and simply ported to the other. Too far from the APIs, and you wind up doing everything twice.

      Plus, it's open source. If the code worked even partially in a Windows environment, I'd probably donate a few hours a week to making sure that it really behaved on Win32.

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  7. New feature list... by dmayle · · Score: 5, Informative

    It wasn't in the new feature list, but Evolution 2.0 is the one that's supposed to include the GPL'ed Exchange connector, as well as support for Novell's mail server (I forget the name.)

    1. Re:New feature list... by killjoe · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wonder how hard it would be to take an existing IMAP server and store things like the evolution calender and task list on it.

      In the outlook/exchange paradigm outlook does most of the work. Why not do the same thing with evolution?

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    2. Re:New feature list... by SeaGK · · Score: 3, Informative

      evolution-data-server and the ximian-connector is what you are asking for. Includes support for GroupWise an several other "backends" (like MS-Exchange 2000/2003). They are a bitch to get installed on Debian, but Evolution 2.0 is much .... much better than 1.4.6 (Debian's official version), especially on stability of the exchange connector (Connector 1.4.7 crashes all the time for us), it's faster and looks nicer too.

  8. I use it, like it by fire-eyes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I use it, have been for over a week now. Or something.

    I find it is significantly faster all around, the interface is cleaned up and feels easier to use.

    I haven't experimented with junk mail yet.

    The only thing I wish I could do in evolution is have just the email client, I don't use any of that other shit.

    I use gentoo as well, so USE=-bullshit would be nice :)

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    1. Re:I use it, like it by kundor · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you want small apps that do one thing, you really should be using KDE. Gnome apps tend to be big monolithic things far more often, whereas with KParts, KDE is entirely made of small one-function apps that embed eachother.

    2. Re:I use it, like it by brainee28 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I found it to be pretty fast, but it took up way too much system resources for me. Too many things running in the background, especially SpamAssassin....it was bogging the rest of my system down. I took it out, and no more slowdowns.

  9. Any Chance of by mwagner_00 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Getting this ported to Windows??? I know alot more people would be using it if they did that.

    1. Re:Any Chance of by daeley · · Score: 3, Informative

      On a related note, Mac OS X users can obtain Evolution via Fink and run it in X11.

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    2. Re:Any Chance of by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not quite Evolution, but these guys are working on getting Gnome2 ported to Cygwin.

      MS Outlook is decent, but it really lacks basic features that should exist in any modern Email/PIM application-- Real message threads, proper message quoting when I reply-to or forward an email message, Todo items which show up in your Calendar, Group contacts which show up in my own Contact list...

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    3. Re:Any Chance of by generic-man · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, I can't because Fink doesn't provide one of the required dependencies. The required dependency, db31, is only satisfied by switching to the "unstable" CVS/rsync distribution.

      So no, Mac OS X users can't enjoy Evolution 2.0, or even 1.4 without jumping through a hoop or two.

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  10. Night Owls by m0rph3us0 · · Score: 4, Funny
    2) Alarms don't work properly if Evolution runs past midnight

    Yeah. That is such an uncommon situation. I can't imagine the lack of forethought that went into the code to allow that bug to ship for a major version release.

    1. Re:Night Owls by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 4, Funny

      They neglected to mention that it also has problems if you expose it to bright light and will unexpectedly fork(2) if you get it wet.

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  11. In case screenshot site slashdotted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Open your e-mail client. Pull down every available menu. Select compose. Pull down every availble menu. Bring up prefrences. Select every tab.

    Ooooh. Aaaaah.

  12. _some_ screenshots by Laxitive · · Score: 5, Funny

    OSDir.com Apps Slideshow Back [ 2 of 84 ] Next


    84? Yeah I suppose some people might refer to that as "some screenshots". May I suggest
    "A fuck of a lot" as an alternate quantifier?

    :)

    -Laxitive
  13. Re:Mono? by oxymor00n · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, rewrite a whole application just for the sake of it. Good idea, really ;)

  14. Document the EDS!! by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 5, Informative

    All this new configurability and extensibility in Evo 2.0 is great, but what I'd really like to see is some better documentation for the "Evolution Data Server" (basically the Camel and Wombat API's). Ximian/Novell are hoping that the community will be excited about writing "snap-ins" to extend Evo's functionality, but what about those of us who would like to, for example, connect it to other back-end data stores? There's a "connector" for Groupwise and a "connector" for Exchange ... what if I want to write a "connector" for some other groupware server? (I'm asking this question because I do want to do exactly that.) These API's are barely documented. You have to reverse-engineer the existing connector code to get anything done with it. I'd like to see some real docs.

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  15. Not ready for release? by linuxtelephony · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm really disappointed. It seems they were in such a rush to release 2.0.0 with Gnome 2.8.0 that they left a pretty glaring problem.

    From their Known Issues: 2) Alarms don't work properly if Evolution runs past midnight

    That's a pretty fundamental flaw for a program that is supposed to be essentially an Outlook replacement.

    I commend Novell for their overall Linux efforts, but rushing things to release for the sake of making a date with this type of flaw seems like a dangerous way to conduct business.

    It is things just like this that give some people enough pause to NOT deploy open source solutions. What was the earlier /. article about switching from Linux to Windows saying? Problems with programs, support, etc? Releasing a "stable" 2.0.0, exiting the beta 1.5.x series, and having a problem that prevents alarms from working properly if you leave Evolution running overnight certainly doesn't make me very confident.

    Hopefully 2.0.1 will be released VERY soon.

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    1. Re:Not ready for release? by myc_lykaon · · Score: 2, Interesting
      That's a pretty fundamental flaw for a program that is supposed to be essentially an Outlook replacement.

      Have you tried making appointments in Outlook for a date in BST while you are in GMT? It's a matter of luck if anyone turns up to the meeting. Time zone changing in a country as you move from summer to winter time? - Naaaah, never happens.

  16. Re:Mono? by noselasd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or why didn't they write it in Python ? Or C++/Qt (Which is Novells preferred platform on Linux/SuSE) ?

    The question to ask is _why_ should they write it in C# ?! I for one
    don't need the extra slowness and memory usage introduced by mono.

  17. Outlook rip-off by Mwongozi · · Score: 3, Interesting
    OK, this isn't meant to be a flame, I hate Microsoft as much as the next guy, but...

    The layout of that window on the screenshots is almost identical to Outlook 2003, right down to the buttons in the bottom left and the search bar at the top.

    Open source shouldn't content itself with stealing good ideas, that's Microsoft's job. Surely we can come up with something innovative, and I'm not using the Microsoft definition.

    1. Re:Outlook rip-off by Phleg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If I recall, this was innovative when they first came up with the idea several years ago, in order to distance themselves from Outlook. Once again, it would be Microsoft that took the idea, not Evolution.

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    2. Re:Outlook rip-off by earlytime · · Score: 3, Insightful

      do you really want to know?

      it's beacuse that's how most progress is made, in very small increments. Linux was born to be incrementally better than minix, then made to be incrementally than *ix, then *ix, and so on. Now Linux is arguably the best unix out there (depends on your needs). A good side effect of open source code, is that anybody can make small changes that improve the overall package. Over time, these small moves add up to a huge advance over the original.
      Apache is a perfect example, it was not just an incremental improvement, but originally a straight copy of ncsa; take all those little patches, and package them into one tarball. Ok, it's not spectacular, but it's better than ncsa. Continue this process over 9 years, and you have not just the most popular, but an extremely stable, lightweight and portable web server.
      It's rare that you see a major development, especially within a specific area. Consider the fact that even software powerhouses like microsoft, sun & orace are all focused on developing new iterations of old ideas ( vms, unix, SQL). These three products/technologies are at least 20 years old, yet they still drive the software industry. Even Intel is milking a 30 year old product, the integrated microprocessor.

      refs:
      http://www.computerhope.com/history/unix. htm
      http://www.economist.com/science/tq/displaySt ory.c fm?story_id=2724348
      http://www.apache.org/foundat ion/faq.html#what
      http://www.oracle.com/technolog y/oramag/oracle/03- may/o33drdba.html
      http://inventors.about.com/libr ary/weekly/aa092998 .htm

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    3. Re:Outlook rip-off by spectecjr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I recall, this was innovative when they first came up with the idea several years ago, in order to distance themselves from Outlook. Once again, it would be Microsoft that took the idea, not Evolution.

      Outlook 95 - released in, unsurprisingly, 1995 - has the GUI that Evolution has today. Evolution wasn't even started until 1999. The first version copied the Outlook 98 GUI down to the letter.

      Later versions include the Outlook 2000 Dashboard features.

      Evolution 1.4.6 (the version before today's released version) still looks exactly like Outlook 2000. And not at all like the copy of Outlook 2003 that Evolution 2.0 looks like.

      1.4.6 screenshot

      Outlook 2000 with Dashboard

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  18. But at what cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It would be great for folks to realize that writing apps cross-platform is one of the single best ways to get TONS of adoption, and ease any eventual transitions to Linux.

    Yes, but as OS's (like OS/2 fer instance) found out, having that application compatibility can be a double edged sword. You might ease the transition, but you also potentially negate one of the motivating factors as well as providing your competition (i.e. MS) with a marketing edge (why switch because you can still run your "free" apps on Windows) and (Windows has tons of Windows only apps, PLUS it'll run the open source apps that count).

  19. Cygwin! by Noksagt · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oops! Here's the linky

    1. Re:Cygwin! by Spoing · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I don't believe it. Every 6 months I get excited when someone mentions Evolution for Windows being used somewhere...but when I look I'm disappointed.

      Just now, I've searched the web for 2 hours and have come up with no other references except for a few comments on cobbled together copies a few people have been able to comple for themselves. None seem to be used for anything practical at this time, though.

      In my searching, I found no packages for the X or Gnome-specific branchs of Cygwin. No stand-alone ports. Nothing in the main Cygwin package repositories. No binaries of any sort. No directions for compiling it from scratch or in part let alone 'just compile it from source after installing Cygwin'. Not even a short 'it works, but you have to build, configure, and install A, B, and C versions 1, 2, and 3'. Nothing. Silence.

      The only thing that looks remotely promising is Evolution for Windows -- and that project started three days ago.

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    2. Re:Cygwin! by wizrd_nml · · Score: 2, Interesting
      No offense to the parent but please don't mod all these Cygwin posts up!!

      Repeat after me: Running Evolution under Cygwin is NOT A WINDOWS PORT!!! Very very few people will fire up Cygwin and then Evolution every time they want to check their mail. Not to mention the effort required to install which Windows users are not used to.

      A Windows port means it runs natively in Windows. Period.

  20. Kmail by thinkliberty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One of the things i like about kmail is that Gnupg is intgrated in to it. Does Evolution support this?

    1. Re:Kmail by KeyserDK · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, not inline(!) though. Which most other mailers seem to use.

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    2. Re:KMail by monkeySauce · · Score: 3, Informative

      I would have to agree, and I'll add that Kontact is a very nice Evolution replacement.

      I had been using Evolution (1.4) for some time (1.5 years?) and generally liked it. I installed 2.0 and I was really disappointed. Evo 1.4 would crash occasionally on me, and I was dissapointed that 2.0 continued this annoying behavoir. Even more frustrating were they incredible delays I saw in manipulating mail on my imap server. I hoped these problems would dissapear with 2.0 but they did not. Add to this the fact that I, like others, was underwhelmed by the new UI and color scheme, and suddenly I was in the market for a new PIM.

      As a KDE user, the natural first step was to give Kontact/Kmail a try. I've barely been using it a week and I've fallen in love. It syncs with my palm V, just like Evo, I find it to be more customizable than Evolution was, and so far it hasn't crashed. So far I have liked every aspect of Kontact as well or better than the Evolution equivalent. Best of all, mail operations on my IMAP server as fast as ever, like they should be. I don't know WTF is wrong with Evo's IMAP support but Kontact/Kmail did it right, and I'm now a convert. So long Evolution!

  21. Re:Dude, where's my space? by stubear · · Score: 2, Informative
    "Evolution looks nice indeed, but who thought of this stupid buttons below the mailfolders?"
    Who though of this? Microsoft of course. You thought Evolution was an innovative product? Think again. It's a direct copy of Outlook.
  22. GroupWise Client Support Added by _Bunny · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It appears that Evolution 2.0 adds some aupport for Novell's mail system, GroupWise.

    There's an article in this month's Novell Connection Magazine on how to set it up, complete with a bunch of screen shots.

    Novell added support to run the GroupWise backend on Linux recently (late last year or early this year, I can't remember). In fact, most of the GroupWise servers this year at Brainshare were running Linux instead of NetWare!

    - Bunny

  23. Spamassisin Integration?? by Lispy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What does that mean? Does that mean they just added some shiny buttons to it that do the filtering work automatically or did they *include* spam-assassin?

    I am not totally clueless since I am running Evo 2.0 for about a week now but so far I couldn't get it to filter any junk. Can anyone clarify this issue?

  24. 6 download components? by simetra · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is what bugs me about installing Linux apps... the ASSLOAD of separate stuffs you have to download, configure, build/install. Why not just bundle everything up nicely? OpenOffice manages to do this.

    BTW., anyone else notice that newegg.com has been dead for a few hours?

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    1. Re:6 download components? by Turmio · · Score: 2

      This is what bugs me about installing Linux apps... the ASSLOAD of separate stuffs you have to download, configure, build/install.
      That's why you as a regular Linux desktop user wait until your favourite distribution starts to ship the app and do the downloading, configuring, building and installing for you.

  25. Bible Belt by Performaman · · Score: 4, Funny

    I told a Southern Baptist friend about this, and she said I was going to hell.

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  26. Great news... but does it sync with PocketPC? by B5_geek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, I know MS is evil but I have a pocketPC.

    I have tried getting SynCE http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/ to work in the past with various mail clients on kde & Gnome (various distros too).

    But I have never had any luck getting it to run. Does anybody know of any other app that will let you synce (preferable) evolution with a pocketpc running MS Mobile 20003?

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  27. Re:Mono? by Phleg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Score: 5, Informative?

    How is this informative? They didn't rewrite Evolution in Mono because that would have involved rewriting hundreds of thousands of lines of code, for little benefit.

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  28. Re:Mono? by noselasd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is this informative?

    Because some C#/mono zealots got modpoints ?

  29. Best Calendaring out there... by freelock · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just got Evo 2.0 set up on my laptop, with the new Mandrake 10.1. While I've been having trouble getting my Palm sync'd correctly, I have to say, the new calendar feature is great.

    You can subscribe to the same web calendars used by Apple ICal and Mozilla Sunbird/Calendar. But you can also drag events to a personal calendar, where you can synchronize it with a PDA. You can select any set of calendars to publish for Free/Busy (it looks like it can merge multiple calendars, but haven't tested), and you can then attach the URL for your calendar to your VCard, send to other Evolution recipients AND Outlook users, and they can see when you're available to schedule a meeting.

    I've been waiting for these features for months--it promises to be the best of all worlds for calendaring. Now to see if it delivers!

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  30. Re:Great news... but does it sync with PocketPC? by datastalker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Use MultiSync (http://multisync.sourceforge.net/)... I got it to work with my Verizon Treo 600 and Evolution 1.4, and if it can do that, it should have no problem syncing your Pocket PC.

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  31. Re:Mono? by k98sven · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No.. there is no formal connection between Mono and Evolution, although both are products of Ximian.

    A very good read is this piece by Havoc Pennington, of GNOME fame.

    Basically he says that there are ideas that integrating some high-level, sandboxed platforms like Mono/.NET and/or Java into the Linux desktop. (or more specifically, GNOME)

    He also says that they're not going to use Mono or Java in Gnome (and where Gnome goes, Evolution goes) until there is some kind of road-map on which technology should be used and how.

    Personally, I find Java more compelling. C# may be a nicer language, but there is no control over which direction the class libraries will take. The Java Community Process is at least a somewhat open alternative.

  32. Re:Ximian Exchange Connector by daemonc · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not only will it work, but it is now included with Evolution, GPLed, and free of charge.

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  33. Re:Mono? by k98sven · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not as far off the mark as you think though.

    There are Evolution extensions being written in C#.

    (And this has lead to rumors about all of Evolution being rewritten in C#, but I don't think that's any more likely than you do)

  34. Re:Mono? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I often wonder if Microsoft isn't just waiting for the most damaging time to pull the rug out from under mono developers by slapping them with a suit for intellectual property or copyright violation over .NET.

    IANAL, but I have a bit of a tendency to be a bit of a conspiracy theorist... :-)

  35. Re:Mono? by SoSueMe · · Score: 2, Funny

    So, it's an evolutionary thing?

  36. Re:Mono? by FuzzzyLogik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I didn't say C# as someone stated. I simply wondered why they would choose to write mono if their own applications won't even take advantage of their own framework. Did they write it just to write it and waste their time or what? I would hope that Novell/Ximian would support their own framework and use it, and as stated sure would make things more platform independent.

    Ultimately I just wondered why they didn't use it, that's all, no hidden meaning, no jokes, no nothing, just wondered why.

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  37. jeez... by aggieben · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When are we finally going to see these office-suite types of software packages offer built-in support for PGP/GPG? For crying out loud...half the problems we have with email could be solved if people used PGP and a whole heck of a lot more people would use PGP if it were built-in to their email client; that goes especially for the web email services like hotmail.

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  38. Multisync by Xhargh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does anyone know if multisync http://multisync.sourceforge.net/ still works with Evolution 2.0? I am using Evolution 1.4.6 and Multisync 0.82 and I will not upgrade Evolution until I know that it will continue to work.

  39. IMAP storing calendar info by sita · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wonder how hard it would be to take an existing IMAP server and store things like the evolution calender and task list on it.

    In the outlook/exchange paradigm outlook does most of the work. Why not do the same thing with evolution?

    Well, just fire up a DAV server next to the IMAP server and there you go.

  40. Evolution 2.0 has been released... by the_germ · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...2 weeks ago! Congratulations!

    Didn't anyone notice this was released as part of GNOME 2.8?

    Wow, wait! GNOME 2.8 is out? Jeez...! ;-)

  41. Re:yeah...yeah... all hail to our ximian overloard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Process Name Memory RSS Memory
    evolution-2.0 73.7 19.6
    evolution-data-server-1.0 71.4 7.3
    evolution-alarm-notify 61.4 8.5

    Don't forget to take into account shared memory. Mine still don't add up to 300MB but if you look, a good portion of that is shared memory, which means you can't just add up all the processes total memory usage.

    Plus mine is custom built (Gentoo), which may result in less memory usage...