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Bungie to Step Back From Halo Series

Thanks to the BBC for their articles on the near future of Bungie. With Halo 2 ready to ship, it appears the company is stepping back from the Halo series for the moment. While they have over 100 years of plot fleshed out for the gameworld, plans for the future are in flux. For now, "Most people will take a week or two, some up to a month, but almost everyone will be back here in time for the game launch, to witness it first hand."

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  1. Halo world story by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1, Interesting

    takes place in the world of the Marathon series, right?

    Just like Tribes takes place in the Starsiege/Earthsiege universe.

    So, shouldn't it already have a lot of backstory?

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    1. Re:Halo world story by hunterx11 · · Score: 1

      Not explicitly, and I believe the timelines don't match up. However, they could always integrate it ex post facto, like they did with Marathon and Pathways Into Darkness. It would be interesting if the Jjaro were the Forerunners.

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    2. Re:Halo world story by Babbster · · Score: 1, Insightful
      But as I said, this was many years ago.

      Yet, somehow, someone brings up the Mac/Bungie thing on even the flimsiest of pretext every time Halo is mentioned.

    3. Re:Halo world story by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 1

      Then Bungie has a ready made, imo decent, story they could just plug in with a little bit of work. Any good/fleshed out backstory just adds to the coolness factor of a game in my opinion*. So that gives them a base to work from, and saves them work in the long haul.

      * - As do those long lost bonuses in the game box like cloth maps.

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    4. Re:Halo world story by Maserati · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Imagine one of your deepest traumas... and add Microsoft.

      I can't see the submission queue. but I'll bet some variation on "Micro$oft is teh evil for buying Bungie" gets submitted at least once a month.

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    5. Re:Halo world story by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 1

      the "backstory" to Halo 2 is being laid out before us as we speak
      www.ilovebees.com
      timetravel, flash-clones, retired Spartan 1's, rampant AI's, Naval Intelligence coverups, illegal refugess; its really good stuff actually

      for those too lazy to really get into the storyline, just go to http://ilovebees.com/humptydumpty.html to hear the story so far

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    6. Re:Halo world story by Chyeld · · Score: 1

      Actually, they've stated that the two worlds are tied to one another, and that how will become appearent someday, however they aren't the same. Given how Marathon Infinity ended, it's not hard guessing how they are tied together.

      *SPOILER*

      Marathon Infinity ends with the AI which you interact with for the majority of the series, merging into an alien AI and surviving to the end of the universe. Where it finially realizes that you were Destinty Incarnate.

  2. Whatever the next game is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I sure hope the Master Chef is still in it!

  3. Re:A series? by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're forgetting the Marathon series. Halo and Marathon are in the same universe.

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  4. Old news... by hollismb · · Score: 1

    I thought they'd already stated a Looooong time ago that Halo 2 was the last game in the series. Props though to Bungie that they've been so tight lipped about it, that even now, just a month before the game comes out, even a new screenshot is a big deal.

  5. Re:A series? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nope, Bungie stated a few times that they are infact in different universes.

  6. If it makes enough money there'll be a third one by Polarism · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Only question being how much money that is..

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  7. History of Halo by ghutchis · · Score: 3, Informative

    I hate replying to posts that sound like trolls. Who cares if it originally demoed on a Cray or an SGI? Game development frequently takes a few years and plans can change. Once upon a time, Halo was supposed to be a PlayStation game too.

    But that was when it was a Myth/scifi hybrid. It was much more of a RTS game, not any sort of first-person game.

    Bungie posted a history of Halo a few months ago...

    http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=pre xboxhistory040904&p=42

    And of course they're pretty upfront about their history too.

    http://www.bungie.net/Inside/CustomPage.aspx?secti on=History&subsection=Main&page=6

    Just wanted to get some tru7h out there...

    Cheers,
    -Geoff

    1. Re:History of Halo by sgant · · Score: 1

      Actually, wasn't ment to be a troll at all...more like a "walk down memory lane".

      And yeah, in reality, who cares?

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    2. Re:History of Halo by ghutchis · · Score: 1

      Sorry... sounded more like a "Macs don't get games until years go by" sorta thing.

      I too thought that first Myth/Halo thing seemed really cool. I remember thinking about 64-player battles and that sort of thing.

      Fun.

      -Geoff
      (waiting for Halo 2 goodness... hope I have the free time... :-)

  8. Re:If it makes enough money there'll be a third on by Sta7ic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's one of the funny things about Bungie, they don't always seem to follow the straight and narrow money trail. Just look at their titles.

    Minotaur.
    Pathways into Darkness.
    Marathon Trilogy (the third, IIRC, wasn't quite done in-house even).
    Myth.
    Oni.
    Halo.

    Now call me naive (STA7IC YOU NAIVE FOOL), but there isn't an entirely straight line here. The Marathon Trilogy won awards in the Mac community and developed a cult following (even if the Windows M2 port didn't go very far), but when asked about a sequel, they responded that they'd be beating a dead horse for money. They finished the story that they wanted to tell, and were moving on.

    Myth was a great piece of work. They left the door ajar for Myth 2, and took that, but pretty much wrapped the story up at the end... unless you want to go backwards or forwards some 1000 years or so in the storyline. Take Two exploited this option when they put together Myth 3, which is pretty much ignored now.

    Oni was a one-shot storyline and great fun. We're not expecting to see any sequels, prequels, or addons here, unless Take Two is *really* after money. Bungie packaged that game up nicely.

    From the day it shipped, everyone knew that Halo 2 was in the works -- they *had* to keep it up, tell more about what that damn blue glowbug is up to. Visiting Earth will be a trip. From the day XBox Live was announced, everyone knew that Halo 2 was necessary for the continued good of XBox Live. I'd be interested in seeing the relationship between XBL subscriptions and Halo 2 shipping.

    But from here... who knows. Hopefully Bungie will surprise us with a new universe to romp through, whether it be scifi or fantasy. Or something set between 1900-1915 or 1950-2100. Postmodernism and historical fiction are both underdeveloped catagories in the gaming department if you don't have a war involved. Whatever they do, keep an eye on Bungie in a couple years, and ignore all the shiny weapons, vehicles, and maps they're sure to bring in over time as downloadable content. It's just another division of the Office of Bungie Mind Control that keeps me ... uhh... where'd my tin hat go?

  9. Perfect timing for a price drop... by Metroid72 · · Score: 1

    If microsoft drops a bomb and lowers the price of the Xbox to $99 when Halo 2 is launched that would be sweet.

  10. Marathon! by Rayonic · · Score: 1

    Maybe they're going to re-do the Marathon Trilogy, but with new technology. That'd kick 13 kinds of ass.

    1. Re:Marathon! by FLAGGR · · Score: 1

      Yes, oh my gawd it would (actually, it would kick 7 kinds of ass, just to pick a nice bungie number)

    2. Re:Marathon! by Freakshow20o4 · · Score: 1

      I agree that seeing a new Marathon game would be something that every one, or at least all of us not noobs would like to see. I would also like to see the Marathon infinity files released into open source and a new verson of forge and anvil so I could actualy run Aleph one on my computer. Still though with the release of Doom 3 isn't it time for marathon 3. Of course there's no chance that Microsoft would let bungie release it on any thing but Xbox. Don't get your hopes up for any thing new from bungie yet, remember after this "break" they have to do the PC version of Halo 2.

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    3. Re:Marathon! by Osty · · Score: 1

      Of course there's no chance that Microsoft would let bungie release it on any thing but Xbox.

      Right, because Microsoft didn't let them port Halo to PC (via Gearbox).


      Don't get your hopes up for any thing new from bungie yet, remember after this "break" they have to do the PC version of Halo 2.

      Unlike Halo 1, which started as a Mac project, then moved to PC and finally XBox, Halo 2 has always been XBox-based, and Bungie has never said a word about it being on any other platform. Why, then, do you assume they'll do a PC version of Halo 2?

    4. Re:Marathon! by dgagley · · Score: 1

      We still play infinity at work. There is a version called Aleph One that you can use to play it on OSX and Linux now. It can be downloaded at Bungie and also Source Forge. You will need some of the old game files or the demo to run it.

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  11. Re:A series? by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 1

    Oh, that's my bad I guess. I remember reading a bunch of things with photo proof that there were things that linked the two games.

    Guess we need a "-1 Wrong" mod for my original comment!

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  12. Re:If it makes enough money there'll be a third on by l1nuxpunk · · Score: 1

    I'd have to say that Bungie has amazing control over what they put out, and that they do a good job of maintaining the plot they set out with. But you do have to hand it to the guys, they sure put a whole lot of extra work into it, that's almost unnecessary. Cortana Letter's, anyone?

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  13. Well, one thing has changed since Halo though.. by Polarism · · Score: 1

    They're now a part of Microsoft.

    Now, don't jump ahead of me here, i'm not taking the bandwagon stance of "omgz they're with M$ so now they're just a mindless arm of M$ omgz".

    It's more of a Microsoft has a little more influence now on 'em, so if they wave a few more bucks at them combined with whatever the massive sales will be (and they WILL be massive), there could be a 3rd game in the series, or perhaps an offshot of it, something other than a pure FPS, who knows.

    All I know is that the IP(intellectual property) will be used again, it's too good not to.

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  14. Re:A series? by forkazoo · · Score: 1

    You aren't the only one. There are a ton of similarities. Google, if you care. I wouldn't be at all surprised if part of the reason that Halo doesn't take place in the Marathon universe has to do with contracts and who owns the marathon universe, and the microsoft buyout. Regardless, it isn't that hard to treat them as being in the same universe.

  15. Re:plot? by MMaestro · · Score: 1
    Actually Bungie has hinted at the possibility that you will land on another 'Halo' in Halo 2. Also in the original Halo, if you listened the Monitor told you that there are 'others' Halos in the galaxy.

    Save Earth? Probably. Save the galaxy? Maybe, but maybe he'll 'let' the Monitor activate the Halo in the Covenant's part of the galaxy and blow them away ending the war.

  16. people posting here aren't insightful by slumpy · · Score: 1

    So far there's only 2 posts higher than a +2....and that's funny...

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    1. Re:people posting here aren't insightful by Yolegoman · · Score: 1

      So do you want us to mod you up +3, Funny?

  17. Re:If it makes enough money there'll be a third on by C0rinthian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah, the Cortana letters were completely unneeded, but very cool and generated a lot of hype.

    The little details, while often overlooked are what make the difference in the long run. The Marathon series is good proof of that. You don't need to read all the stuff in every console to get your objectives and complete the game, but they add a lot of depth to the game universe.

    Now, I waiting for Halo 2 just to find out if Cortana DID go rampant... (Theres some good circumstantial evidence of this)

  18. Re:plot? by C0rinthian · · Score: 1

    Given the range of the Halo found in the first game, more than likely it WAS the one in range of the Covenant homeworld.

    Oh, and Earth too...

  19. Naw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Wait for Halo 2 to clear out a million units at 49.99

    Then do a price dropped bundle of xbox + halo 2 for 129.99, and xbox, halo, halo 2 for 149.99. And then do a Halo 2 edition xbox with halo 2 + patches and whatever for 199.99 with shinier plastic, master chief action figure and ghost/warthog vehical by McFarlane toys.

  20. Re:If it makes enough money there'll be a third on by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1

    There was another game the Bungie people were working on after Halo - that being the mysterious 'Phoenix'.

    Nobody outside Bungie really knows what sort of game it was, but according to Matt Soell, "the game formerly known as Phoenix has indeed been shelved. The consensus was that we could finish the game but we would not be happy with the result. If the team didn't think they'd enjoy the game as designed, they could not seriously expect others to enjoy it."

    Who knows how many other game ideas they've been having...

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  21. This is not news. by Xentax · · Score: 1

    This was from the same weekly update that was posted earlier about Halo 2 being "ready to ship".

    Uh, surprise surprise - they finished their part of a major software project - when ELSE will a product team finally be *allowed* to take some vacation guilt-free (believe me, trying to squeeze it in at some "lull" in a project schedule rarely works out as planned)? If I was upper management at Bungie (yes, they're part of MS, but I'm sure they still have their own internal reporting structure), I'd definitely give the team a chance to regroup, make up for missing hours with spouses and kids, see the ball of fire that our planet keeps spinning around, etc.

    They're not putting the Halo series on the shelf for X years or something - at least, this quote should NOT be construed as such a statement. They're just finally taking a (hopefully) well-deserved break after all the blood, sweat, tears, and hours they've put into making Halo 2.

    I have little doubt they'll get cracking on Halo3 - probably for "XBox Next" or whatever you want to call it - in due course. After all, Sgt. Johnson claims he'll finally "get a woman" in Halo 4, we can't keep him waiting for too long, can we?

    Xentax

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  22. Re:A series? by Have+Blue · · Score: 1

    Bungie kept the Marathon franchise; they still own it and could use it if they wanted to. Still, there are too many inconsistencies and official denials for the games to be closely linked.

  23. Re:If it makes enough money there'll be a third on by rpillala · · Score: 1

    When you said historical fiction was underdeveloped it made try to think of games of that type. The only one I could think of was The Last Express. A war is kind of involved there but not at all in the gameplay. Are there more?

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  24. Re:If it makes enough money there'll be a third on by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

    How can you forget Pimps at Sea? (You'll have to wait until next April to see the full site.)

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  25. Death March. by Joseph+Vigneau · · Score: 1

    Bungie has had a team of 55 people working on the game for at least 16 hours a day to make sure it was ready in time.

    So, I guess there won't be many bugs in the final product then, right?

  26. Re:A series? by forkazoo · · Score: 1

    No worse than the inconsistencies in Star Trek... :)

  27. Re:If it makes enough money there'll be a third on by qoa · · Score: 1

    I'd sure like to see a sequel to Oni that actually let you remap the keys into a usable configuration without gettin carpal tunnel in your left hand while trying to do a running jump kick...

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