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Review of Team America World Police

This weekend I had the chance to see Team America, World Police, the new film directed by Trey Parker and Matt Stone, famous of course as "The South Park Guys". Click the link below to read my review of the flick, but the short summary is that I liked it quite a bit... but since I'm a South Park fan, that shouldn't surprise you. I've been looking forward to seeing this movie for quite awhile, and I better start this review by putting my cards n the table: I'm a fan of South Park, the TV show and the movie. In fact, I've seen Orgazmo and Cannibal the Musical simply because they were directed by Parker. I was skeptical about a marionette movie, but I went in with realistic expectations.

The movie is essentially a parody of your standard summer blockbuster. In this case we have "Team America", the stereotypical hodge podge band of freedom fighters brought together to kick ass (not surprisingly) for America and for Freedom. It turns out that marionettes are the ideal vehicle for such a film: the summer blockbuster genre has at its very core the super huge special effect. A parody would be hard pressed to convincingly duplicate these effects. But these are puppets. So the effects are supposed to look silly. And this is fortunate: the film takes constant blissful pleasure in the blockbuster tradition of demolishing national monuments, from the Eiffel tower to Mount Rushmore.

Our team of freedom fighters hits all the standard cliche's: we lose a member, find a replacement, who gets jaded and ultimately must come to terms with his feelings about his job while the team comes to accept the new guy.

Of course, there is some sort of a plot as well. In South Park the movie, Parker used Saddam Hussein as his evil joke. This time it's Kim Jong-il. He's really no different than Saddam was last time around. Just a ludicrous bad guy. In this case he's busy masterminding a stupid plot where he unifies the hollywood liberals and various terrorist organization as part of your standard wreck the world plan. It's thin, but no thinner than what it parodies.

I think my general concern going into this movie was the politics. The movie could very easily get mired down in preaching a point. But thankfully it never really does that. It simultaneously makes fun of liberal hollywood actors, and the rah rah 'Go America' right wing stereotype. But the movie isn't really picking sides: it's more about parodying the genre of summer blockbuster then it is about right vs left or war vs peace. Thats a good thing. Parker has proven time and time again that he can make simple points very well. South Park has addressed countless social issues over the years, and the feature film really took issues like censorship and parenting in a very meaningful way. Team America doesn't spend much time trying to seriously address the issues. It's just simple fun.

The other major concern that I harbored was that the marionette jokes would run thin. As I said before, the use of marionettes works great for mocking special effects, but the film easily could have constantly referred back to the fact that we are watching puppets. There are only a few jokes like that. Since they are used so sparingly, they make it all the more amusing when it happens. And there's a lot of hilarity to be derived from puppet sex when the film is pretending to be serious about it.

Like all of Parker's movies, they come out guns blazing, and 30 minutes in, I find myself needing a commercial break. The jokes are constant and funny. Maybe too funny. By the middle of the film you see something funny but are so desensitized that it's tough to muster another laugh. Of course then they turn around and beat you over the head with something new.

It's also worth noting that the facial puppetteering is really cool. Everyone involved should be really proud of themselves for pulling off something so visually unique.

I really enjoyed the film. I went in with high hopes and was pleased to have them all met. Even my wife, who is quite sick of South Park and wasn't looking forward to watching this at all came out absolutely giddy with laughter.

If you're a South Park fan, you'll love this movie. If you're a fan of summer blockbusters, and can tolerate the language, you'll love this movie. If you're a prude, watch something else. As for me, this is the first movie in months that I decided to buy the DVD before it was over.

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  1. Trailer by erick99 · · Score: 5, Informative
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  2. Oh, ugh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe to funny.

    You were doing so well...

    1. Re:Oh, ugh... by chaffed · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, that syntax error caused a core dump. Now I'm busy debugging the entire review.

      I'll commit my changes to cvs shortly and hopefully folks will be able to finish reading the review without crashing their brains.

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    2. Re:Oh, ugh... by Epistax · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe to well.

    3. Re:Oh, ugh... by squaretorus · · Score: 3, Funny

      And let me just get this straight - is this a movie about talking ducks or is it "parodying the genre of summer blockbuster" in some way.

      Maybe he could repeat another dozen times that its "parodying the genre of summer blockbuster" so that we get the idea that its "parodying the genre of summer blockbuster".

  3. It's about time... by Rand+Huck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...we got a movie based on politics that really doesn't have a bias or an op-ed piece, and just around Election Day. It's just a movie making fun of everyday politics and the current events that we face. Sometimes we just have to look at what's going on and laugh instead of picking sides and blaming people for it.

    1. Re:It's about time... by ScytheBlade1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then it's HILARIOUS!

    2. Re:It's about time... by cdrudge · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think he means the latter...or in other words, it tries to equally offend everyone.

    3. Re:It's about time... by mefus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      a movie based on politics that really doesn't have a bias or an op-ed piece, and just around Election Day.

      Yeah, we were in serious danger of holding our elected government officials responsible for their actions!

      This should pull us off the trail, though. Whew!

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    4. Re:It's about time... by Rand+Huck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hey, I'm not saying op-eds are a bad thing, and I'm all for pointing fingers where they belong, but every so often you need some comic relief.

    5. Re:It's about time... by mshiltonj · · Score: 5, Informative

      we got a movie based on politics that really doesn't have a bias or an op-ed piece, and just around Election Day. It's just a movie making fun of everyday politics and the current events that we face. Sometimes we just have to look at what's going on and laugh instead of picking sides and blaming people for it.

      Trey Parker makes fun of left and right because he thinks they are both stupid. That's right, folks -- Trey Parker is a Libertarian. And you thought Libertarians couldn't be funny!

    6. Re:It's about time... by Stormie · · Score: 5, Funny

      And you thought Libertarians couldn't be funny!

      Au contraire, I often find myself laughing at Libertarians.

    7. Re:It's about time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So I haven't seen the movie, but I understand in the end it somewhat comes out in favor of America being "world police"

      That's not very libertarian. I've seen some of Trey's politics before (don't get me wrong, I'm a fan and think Orgazmo may be the best movie ever made). But when it comes to their political views, they are very retarded. They tend to believe all that crap Drudge puts on his blog. Any libertarian should be railing as hard as he/she can against this administration, and if they missed the chance to do this while taking pot shots at liberals I will be very disappointed.

      And the 2 party system only failed after the Republican revolution in '94. What we have now is a 1 party system.

      Oh yeah. And Tom Delay needs to get hit by a bus.

    8. Re:It's about time... by Doomdark · · Score: 4, Funny
      And you thought Libertarians couldn't be funny!

      Actually, I have always thought they are downright comical... especially when they explain their bizarre political beliefs! :-D

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  4. Excuse me but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    What does this have to do with Bashing Microsoft or sloberring over Open Sores? In other words... OFF TOPIC!! Try again Taco

  5. Recommend "Cannibal: The Musical" by TrentL · · Score: 3, Informative

    If anyone has the chance, check out "Cannibal: The Musical", by Trey and Matt. It's surprisingly good...VERY catchy music numbers ("Let's Build a Snowman!" and "A Schplodoinkel Day" (?) are two faves). It drags a bit in parts, but you can always turn on the drunken commentary for those sections.

  6. junket interview by mabu · · Score: 4, Informative

    Salon has an interview with Tray and Matt about this where they talk about their intent and how people react to the movie.

  7. Review reminds me of someone... by Dr+Cool · · Score: 5, Funny
    *sniff* I miss Jon Katz's movie reviews.

    Jon Katz, where are you??

    1. Re:Review reminds me of someone... by mshiltonj · · Score: 4, Funny

      Jon Katz, where are you??

      Dude, shut up! You might wake him up!

  8. Sorry to dash your hopes.... by gfxguy · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re:Sorry to dash your hopes.... by pdboddy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Heh, Penn's just jealous his marionette has better hair than he does. :P

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    2. Re:Sorry to dash your hopes.... by Dizzle · · Score: 3, Funny

      They made fun of you too, huh?

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    3. Re:Sorry to dash your hopes.... by boisepunk · · Score: 5, Informative

      To Trey Parker and Matt Stone,

      I remember a cordial hello when you guys were beginning to be famous guys around Hollywood at some party. I remember several times getting a few giggles out of your humor. I remember not being bothered as you traded on my name among others to appear witty, above it all, and likeable to your crowd. I never mind being of service, in satire and silliness.

      I do mind when anybody who doesn't have a child, doesn't have a child at war, or isn't or won't be in harm's way themselves, is encouraging that there's "no shame in not voting" "if you don't know what you're talking about" (Mr. Stone) without mentioning the shame of not knowing what your talking about, and encouraging people to know. You guys are talented young guys but alas, primarily young guys. It's all well to joke about me or whomever you choose. Not so well, to encourage irresponsibility that will ultimately lead to the disembowelment, mutilation, exploitation, and death of innocent people throughout the world. The vote matters to them. No one's ignorance, indcluding a couple of hip cross-dressers, is an excuse.

      All best, and a sincere fuck you,

      Sean Penn

      P.S. Take this as a personal invitation from me to you (you can ask Dennis Miller along for the ride as well) to escort you on a trip, which I took last Christmas. We'll fly to Amman, Jordan and I'll ride with you in a (?) 12 hours through the Sunni Triangle into Fallujah and Baghdad and I'll show you around. When we return, make all the fun you want.

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    4. Re:Sorry to dash your hopes.... by Hooded+One · · Score: 4, Informative

      Per the letter, Penn is not saying that people should all go and vote without being informed -- he's saying people should be ashamed that are uninformed, and that Parker and Stone should encourage them to get informed, not just sit there.

    5. Re:Sorry to dash your hopes.... by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fuck the author, this is slashdot!

  9. Uneven by koreth · · Score: 5, Interesting
    By the middle of the film you see something funny but are so desensitized that it's tough to muster another laugh

    I wasn't desensitized; I just thought the first half of the movie was funnier than the second half. There were some good moments here and there later in the movie, but the first half had the whole audience laughing hysterically at least once a minute.

    (Slight spoiler, I guess...) I think they overestimated the staying power of the "Hollywood stars are actually conniving villains" joke. The incongruity was funny at first, but the film repeated the same basic gag over and over with only slight variations and it got tiresome.

    However, I'm glad I stayed till the end of the credits.

  10. My favourite bits... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Kim Jong-Il's deadly panthers! (oooh, scary!)
    The new guy's panic signal.
    The stretch Lamborghini!
    It's...inebidable.
    The opening scene with the marionette's marionettes,
    The new guy's terrorist disguise.
    The psychic team member. "I sense I'm attracted to him."
    The 'love' scene.
    Team America's theme song.
    Freedom costs a buck-oh-five.

    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess Parker & Stone are gay, because they sure do seem obsessed by cock.

  11. This passes for a movie review? by Raseri · · Score: 5, Funny

    An entire sentence is devoted to the plot and characters. The rest is rambling about how funny it was, and some irrelevant nonsense about the South Park movie. So Taco liked the movie. Thanks for sharing.

    On a side note, Taco must be pissed off at his wife. Why else would he give her a Slashdotting? ;P

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  12. This is VERY nerdy topic! by Hao+Wu · · Score: 3, Funny
    MEGA thanks, CmdTaco! This is exactly what it means to be nerds.

    Play video game? You're a nerd.

    Watch edgy-movies? Nerd.

    Vote? TOTAL Nerd!

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  13. Some strings attached by BaCkBuRn · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know it has to be good when you can see the wires :D

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  14. Slashdotted Wife-Sounds like a cheap horror movie! by metalligoth · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh my God, CmdrTaco! You Slashdotted your wife! You bastard! ;-)

  15. Offensive by RealProgrammer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I believe I speak for my fellow prudes everywhere when I say I'm offended.

    I haven't seen the movie, mind you, but I did read the review.

    Is there no shame left? These are our children who are watching these sorts of things.

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  16. Shouldn't you mention? by FortKnox · · Score: 4, Informative

    Shouldn't you mention that you were paid for this review? (I dunno if it was free tickets or paid advertising, but it was a 'forced' review).

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    1. Re:Shouldn't you mention? by bigberk · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Shouldn't you mention that you were paid for this review
      Let's not make this misleading. Pretty much all movie reviewers (for newspapers and magazines anyway) routinely receive promo packages for their movies - including free tickets, sometimes even gift basket style stuff. To fill in the picture a bit more, doctors, pharmacists, and even university professors in medical/technical fields routinely receive these kind of promotions. Doctors get free samples of random drugs, for godsake.

      So this slashdot review is not out of the ordinary, and it's nothing to criticize IMHO. However the general prevalant practice in marketing, of influencing key people in groups, or decision makers, is quite reprehensible. I don't care much about the effects in entertainment because People Know What They Like but I'm much more concerned when it comes to medicine and the drug industry. (An aside: carefully read those posters in your doctors' office next time, what products are they advertising?)
  17. Sean Penn's Semi-literate and... by Farrside · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... apparently completely incapable of understanding satire, parody, OR irony.
    Unless Drudge made that thing up.

    1. Re:Sean Penn's Semi-literate and... by pdboddy · · Score: 4, Funny

      And they'd never do that! :P

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  18. Re:Prude Food. by pdboddy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Slashdot.

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  19. Re:Umm.... by gooman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Because it is marionette technology...

    Dang! And I was getting comfortable with all that wireless technology.

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  20. Team America II: Grammar Patrol! by TheShadowHawk · · Score: 5, Funny

    After the success of World Police, get ready for the sequel!

    Team America: Grammar Patrol!!

    Rated R for Retarded...

    Where a group of lurky nerds troll Internet forums around the world constantly correcting spelling mistakes and bad grammar and denouncing it as the bane of the universe!!

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    1. Re:Team America II: Grammar Patrol! by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 4, Funny

      You are being to harsh on him; he's just trying too make a helpful critique.

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    2. Re:Team America II: Grammar Patrol! by Wizarth · · Score: 3, Funny
      Shouldn't that be
      bash~: make helpful critique
  21. Re:Umm.... by mtrisk · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think Rob was a bit angry at his wife, so he wanted us to /. her website.

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  22. This Movie Almost Got An NC-17... by Landaras · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This movie almost got an NC-17 for having simulated oral sex between the marionettes.

    Feel free to read my thoughts and pseudo-legal analysis on the subject.

    I actually ended up endorsing a different position than I expected going in. However, my argument would be different if I viewed "as indirect censorship the government's long standing threat of the forced general labeling of movies absent industry self-regulation" (to quote myself).

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    1. Re:This Movie Almost Got An NC-17... by pdboddy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh yea, you can have gunshots, swearing, explosions, people dying in sprays of blood... but simulated sex between two marionettes is bad, bad, bad! Maybe the censors got mocked in the movie also? :P

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    2. Re:This Movie Almost Got An NC-17... by lewko · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did they do the obvious joke about getting wood?

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    3. Re:This Movie Almost Got An NC-17... by bigberk · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Oh yea, you can have gunshots, swearing, explosions, people dying in sprays of blood... but simulated sex between two marionettes is bad
      Several scholars have put the more general case. Seeing murders (gunshots through the body, spraying blood, vehicular manslaughter) is now so commonplace in TV and movies that it's quite ludicrous to simultaneously outlaw depiction of sex. Man, if a cock or pussy was shown on prime time TV could you imagine what would happen?

      What does it say about our society when we readily celebrate instruments of death and destruction, but can't even bring ourselves to look at parts of our own bodies that bring life itself?
  23. Re:apolitical? No. libertariasm is teh new coolnes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I'm so sick of this 'cool neo-libertarian crap.' You get to whine about taxes, blame everything on the two party system, and then still be about legalizing drugs and being pro-gun."

    Yeah, people who are so serious about liberty as to be fanatical about it are stupid! That Kim Jong-Il sure showed those libertarians a thing or two when he abolished the ownership society and created the ultimate complete welfare state. ;)

    But seriously, I'm not sure you understand what libertarian means. You (a "liberal", obviously) seem to think it's some kind of right extremist movement. Conservatives, on the other hand, think it's some kind of wacky leftist movement. But it's neither. If you can't handle our crazy, freedom-loving ways, just ignore us and we'll try not to bother you at parties.

  24. Re:apolitical? No. libertariasm is teh new coolnes by paulbd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    maybe you should take a look at Barlett and Steele's new book on health care in the US. not only do we spend more, we live shorter lives, get sicker, and actually have wait times for most procedures within a statistically insignificant margin of Canada and much of western Europe. Whatever might have been good about the US health care system, say 20 years ago, has faded in the stupid experiment of a "free market" running health care. Result? 10-20% of expenditure is spent on bureaucracy (contrast with "bureaucratic government" running Medicare at 2-3% of expenditure), and the most senior physicians are just quitting the insurance scene entirely. The fundamental problem is that a free market system works when "selling more" makes sense according to some metric. But "selling more" health care is the opposite of what just about everybody wants from a medical system, and so it starts to break down. Add in the fact that "choice" is virtually incomprehensible in a system where employers pick insurance schemes and most consumers don't know even basic medical facts.

    The real truth is that FDR's welfare state was a band aid to avoid a revolution that was brewing in American society during his term as president. Unlike the systems initiated in Europe, which were put in place as a result of direct protest by unions and other non-capital-owning organizations. FDR headed off the fears of the capital owners of the US by instituting a minimal welfare state that did enough to ease the worst fears of the poor, but little more.

    And as for your 43% gains this year, lucky you. Just glad you weren't retiring in a period that saw persistent declines in stock values, let alone right after a massive drop like '87 or the tech bubble blowout.

  25. scary as hell by dougnaka · · Score: 4, Funny
    I turn off the tv if the commercial comes on..

    Am I the only one that's scared of marionettes, claymation and midgets?

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  26. Movie Review as written by Katz by giminy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've been looking forward to seeing this movie since Columbine, and I better start this review by putting my cards on the table: I'm a fan of South Park, the TV show and the movie, especially in our post-Columbine world where young geeks are not allowed to express themselves fully in a high school setting. In fact, I've seen Orgazmo and Cannibal the Musical simply because they were about Columbine. I was skeptical about a Columbine movie, but I went in with realistic expectations.

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  27. Re:'Umm' is right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For the same reason The Simpsons, Futurama, and South Park (among others, though my memory is lapsing right now) are 'nerdy'.

    Look at the number of +3 to +5 "Funny" posts in the comments of every article and you find at least one South Park reference and at least one Simpsons reference.

    All are shows that mostly only nerds get the humor of. Sure, you have the overt dick and fart jokes, but there's an underlying substance. Nerds 'get it', while the people who are pleased by dick and fart jokes help to keep the series(es?) popular.

    Team America, I gather, is about the same, if, like everyone says, it's just like an episode of South Park. Thus, two levels of humor, one nerdy, one pedestrian, and thus newsworthy for nerds.

  28. Is that a review or an ad? by __aailob1448 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Your whole review is spent incensing the movie. As much as I like South Park, I'm skeptical, The reviews over at Rottentomatoes.com paint a differente picture...

  29. Re:Title? by foxhound01 · · Score: 3, Funny

    They were originally going to make it to be Team UN: World Police, but puppets sitting in a big room talking all day just wouldn't sell any tickets.

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  30. Re:apolitical? No. libertariasm is teh new coolnes by photon317 · · Score: 3, Insightful


    I would hardly call the current US healthcare system an experiment in free markets. It is the non-"free market" aspects of the current healthcare system that are causing it to suck so bad. Luckily it's in the process of correcting itself as best it can in spite of government interference. When healthcare ultimately does operate as a smooth free market, Doctors will have suffered a significant loss in their pay compared to how things used to be, insurance companies won't get to do the evil things they currently do, and everyone will actually be able to afford decent healthcare. Insurance will be for traumatic events and serious illness, and will be unneccesary for routine medical treatment, which will be affordable.

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  31. Dude! You just /.ed your WIFE! by Any+Web+Loco · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are you INSANE?!

  32. Re:Grammar nazi strikes! by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Funny
    From the review: "...Our team of freedom fighters hits all the standard cliche's..."
    You don't make a plural with an apostrophe!

    I thought he was trying to make an acute accent (clichés).

  33. Re:I saw it too. It was funny, but not great. by snilloc · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ...but invading other countries on lies

    "Lies", which were also forcefully and repeatedly asserted by John Kerry, John Edwards, Daschle, the UN, Clinton, Albright, Gore, Ted Kennedy, Sandy Berger...

    Looking at the EXACT SAME INTELLIGENCE as Bush, Kerry came to the same conclusion about Iraq's weapons programs. Logically, Kerry is therefore either a dupe or a liar himself.

    , stripping away civil liberties,

    by requiring that all the "evil" snooping requires JUDICIAL OVERSIGHT, and the common sense to AVOID telling a terrorist suspect that you're looking at him/her closely. Oh yeah, and how 'bout the fact that the PATRIOT act expires and is subject to perpetual review. The real destruction of our civil liberties started with "campaign finance reform" AKA "how to keep certain people from exercising political speech when it is most relevant".

    and skewing the tax code to favour the welathy

    How about: giving a tax break to all who actually pay taxes and create jobs, and done so in such a way that makes the tax code marginally less skewed against the rich than before. ["favour"? Not so USian, are we?]

    and bankrupt the treasury is not excusable.

    A deficit during a recession-terrorist attack-war was probably inevitable, but I will agree wholeheartedly that spending has not been restrained and damn well ought to be - starting with fundamental Medicare and Social Security reforms.

    karma be damned - I couldn't let that string of nonsense go unanswered.

  34. Re:Title? by xeon4life · · Score: 3, Funny

    Umm. If I'm not mistaken The United States of America is the only country with "America" actually in it's name, so it's not too far-fetched to just call ourselves Americans.

    This reminds me of a story:
    I was in a speech class (no, not learning how to speak) and I mentioned a Mexican news station I had watched. Some girl turned around and tried to correct me, saying very matter-of-factly, "Hispanic news station." I paused a second and said, "No, Mexican news station. It was filmed IN Mexico, ABOUT Mexico, FOR the Mexican people. It was a freaking Mexican news station."

    -Devin Torres

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  35. "Parker"? by Gorimek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The review keeps talking abot Parker as responsible for the film. Aren't Parker and Stone equal partners? Does CmdrTaco know something I don't??

    1. Re:"Parker"? by psyconaut · · Score: 3, Informative

      Parker directs AND produces, Stone just produces...

      -psy

  36. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  37. Re:Get this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That joke originated on South Park and has become a staple post on /., not the other way around. You put the cart before the horse.

  38. Re:I dream of a world without quicktime... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    interesting, I can watch quicktime format on everything from linux to BSD to BeOS

    your savoir is called mplayer, and specifically the mplayer mozilla plugin.

    instead of bitching, try looking for solutions next time.

  39. Re:I dream of a world without quicktime... by Frappuccino · · Score: 3, Insightful
    And us mac users dream of a world without Windows Media.

    Quicktime is tightly integrated with the OS, so there is no loading time for the movie to start. You click on it - it starts. Windows media has to open, load up, buffer - which takes at least 10 seconds longer to start than quicktime.

    It's a quicktime movie because the film was made on a mac.

  40. Re:they're "libertarians" by Rich0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Didnt both these guys receive federal aid when they went to college?

    Uh - keep in mind that college wouldn't be nearly as expensive if nobody could receive federal aid. If the Federal government would allow anybody to borrow $100,000 per year as long as it was spent on tuition, then you'd see college prices raise to $110,000 next week. Under this kind of system it is perfectly reasonable to be against federal aid and yet freely accept it for oneself. Banning it would only work if it were banned uniformly, causing colleges to find ways to cut costs...

    The fact is that I don't agree with all the positions of any of the parties. However, for me the Libertarians tend to have the most reasonable positions on the issues that matter to me. I wouldn't assume that if they were elected their first order of business would be to impose total anarchy during week one.

  41. Re:Laughter by Stormie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know I'm laughing at you right now. I swear Libertarians bite easier than any other political grouping.

  42. Re:I dream of a world without quicktime... by allgood2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Quicktime IS the cross-platform option. I hate going to sites like Yahoo Launch or MTV and not being able to see videos because their using Windows Media Player (embedded), because I'm using a Mac.

    QuickTime is available for Mac and PC, and MPlayer and a couple other applications will play the .mov files on Linux. I've never had any problems with QuickTime on Windows. I install it on all my clients machines as part of the standard set-up, and walla, it just works.

    But as for your complaint, there are movie trailers in formats other than QuickTime, you just can't access them from the Apple site. The issue is that Apple collects and displays movie trailers. Millions of people use these trailers daily because of they are accessible. Searching for trailers elsewhere requires going to many different sites, and using different media players from Windows Media to RealPlayer, this codec here, a different codec elsewhere.

    Let's face it people link to Apple because their collection of trailers are easy to navigate, accessible, cross-platform, and in a single location. This just encourages movie studios to create more QuickTime trailers, because studios know people will go to the Apple site to look at what's coming out.

  43. Re:they're "libertarians" by martinde · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's the context that gad zuki! left out:
    [snip]
    Stone: And the whole voting thing. All we ever said was that we thought that uninformed people should not vote -- on either side of the political spectrum. It doesn't matter who you're gonna vote for. If you really don't know who you're gonna vote for, or are uninformed, or haven't really thought about it? Just stay home. Don't let people fucking shame you into going to the polls.

    Parker: If you have absolutely no idea, fuck it.

    Stone: If you really don't know or you're just going to vote for George Bush because he's already in office, or you're gonna vote for John Kerry because he's on the cover of Rolling Stone, don't do that. That's lame. Just stay home. That's all we ever said.
    [/snip]

    I've heard some talk on NPR about this, about how MTV is running ads about voting like they are shaving cream commercials. I'm all for "get out the vote" campaigns, but I personally feel like being educated on the candidates and issues is important too.

    Do we really want people who don't feel like learning about the candidates and issues voting on these things? I've voted in every election since 1988, and when I hit something on a ballot that I don't know anything about (usually local races that I have not followed), I don't vote. I don't think this is such a heinous idea - that you should only cast informed votes...

  44. Even a Clueless Vote is Good by rdmiller3 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Reasons you should vote, even if you don't know how the candidates stand on "issues" and "platforms":
    • Polititians don't keep campaign promises anyway. Been that way for thousands of years. Remember "Read my lips: No new taxes!" and how quickly that one got broken? Consider yourself un-biased because you haven't been listening to their lies.
    • By voting, you're participating and that boosts your feeling of responsibility for your part in governing the country... and that's good, no matter who you vote for.
    • By casting your vote, you're diluting the influence of the extremist nuts who always vote. More people voting helps cancel the disproportionate influence of vocal minorities.
    • If you don't think your vote will count for much, then you won't feel obligated to vote for "the lesser evil" and you'll be more likely to vote as your conscience leads you.
    • If you decide to vote, you might even feel motivated to learn something about the candidates, the process, the country, etc.

    Y'see, the system was designed to be robust. That's why it's a "representative republic" instead of a direct democracy. That's why there are three branches set at odds with each other. The guys who wrote it up were assuming that the only way to keep a few people from screwing all the rest was to give everybody a chance to take some part in it with lots of opposition and lots of ways to block each other from overstepping their proper limits.

    By voting, you're providing that necessary opposition, the much-needed buffer to thwart extremist control-freaks. So, VOTE. Figure out who you'll vote for later however you want but the more votes, the better.