Lucas Also Plans
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Anonymous Coward
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To receive the Lifetime Achievement Award Special Edition in 2005, and the Super Extended Lifetime Achievement Award Special Edition Platinum in 2014.
Re:Lucas Also Plans
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feidaykin
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Yeah, in a recent interview, Lucas said:
"I was only about 40% happy with the original award. There were things we just couldn't do when I first got it. The new award, I am 95% happy with. The fans of the awards may take some issue with it, but the award is for me, not them."
Spoiling the joke by explaining it here: The 40% figure is what Lucas said about how happy he was with the original Star Wars when it was finished in 1977. He then went on to say he was 95% happy with Episode I. Which proves that the less happy he is with a film, the more happy everyone else is...;)
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Re:Lucas Also Plans
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Anonymous Coward
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Yawn. Who cares? A lifetime achievement award for making a bunch of low-quality plot-recipe movies and becoming stinking rich as a result; and we have to give him an award?
That's just the sad thing of this award. If the film industry had realized the long ranging impact of the 3 originals, they probably would have handed Lucas the award in the 80s. By now recieving an award doesn't make any sense because of low quality prequals, etc... but how can you know something is a classic in less than 10 years?
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Re:I will.
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mankey+wanker
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Hey, I practically hate most of the guy's movies - but let's not forget what Lucas has done for special effects, cinema sound, etc. Somehow he was also partly responsible for the film "Mishima" which I think is quite brilliant. "American Graffiti" wasn't bad either.
But anyway, the next time the special effects appear to be seemless and the sound quality vibrates your theater seat - remember Lucas for caring about that stuff. He's certainly moved some things along which is more than most people do.
I take good movies in black and white with mono sound over bad movies with excelent visual and sound effects.
It's not just stupid blockbusters. ILM type effects, as they trickle down to cheaper and cheaper production companies, have a huge influence on movies high and low, probably the largest change in the look of films since French New-Wave techniques. "Amelie" used CGI effects in nearly every scene (if just to increase contrast), low-budget "Eurotrip" inserted the Tower of London to a scene of Prague, to avoid the budget hit of a trip to London. Cannes award winner "Oldboy" used computer effects to visualize memories. I don't have to mention "Lord of the Rings."
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> > "Jar-Jar was so bad that it made the Ewoks look like fucking Shaft"
> >I hope you're happy. I'll never be able to watch Shaft again without imagining an Ewok playing the role:).
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Re:Wait a sec...
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Anonymous Coward
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Mesah won no award!?!? Yousah kidding! Jar Jar given award by Naboo Princess! Kiss on cheek! Jar Jar no need lifetime achievement award. Mesah still archieve only half lifetime greatness. Yousah gonna see lotsa more of Jar Jar nows!
They won't redo the Indiana Jones films because Spielberg and others would have to be involved. Lucas doesn't have 100% control of that series so he needs get approval and signed contracts from too many folks to make changes.
-- "We make our world significant
by the courage of our questions
and by the depth of our answers." Carl Sagan
I can't wait until 20 years down the road, when he releases the DVD of the AFI program, replacing a 60 year old Lucas with a virile 20 year old version of himself.
There will be space battles, too.
that that award was for someone who continues to innovate and pursue new things, not someone who does something great and spends the next 20 years tinkering with minute details of said work.
that that award was for someone who continues to innovate and pursue new things, not someone who does something great and spends the next 20 years tinkering with minute details of said work.
He has - you just weren't paying attention. He has caused a shit load of inventions to take place behind the camera. Because of him a ton of people got the money they needed to invent new effects, better sound systems, etc etc.
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Lifetime Achievement Award
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slimyrubber
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For remastering dvd to show a puppet, now with more wrinkles!?
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This one's got a bad motivator!
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bbzzdd
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Lifetime Achievement Award Requirements
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modifried
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"The Life Achievement Award honors an individual whose career in motion pictures or television has greatly contributed to the enrichment of American culture.
The criteria stated that "the recipient should be one whose talent has in a fundamental way advanced the film art; whose accomplishment has been acknowledged by scholars, critics, professional peers and the general public; and whose work has stood the test of time." In 1993, AFI trustees extended the criteria to encompass individuals with active careers and work of significance yet to be accomplished. "
Re:Lifetime Achievement Award Requirements
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AndrewStephens
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In 1993, AFI trustees extended the criteria to encompass individuals with active careers and
work of significance yet to be accomplished.
Sweet, my genius is yet to be recognised but it looks like I am elligable anyway.
Where do I submit my nomination?
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Lucas was a visionary
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Goodl
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Despite the debacles that are the 'new' trilogy, no fan could watch the extras DVD that came with Star Wars and deny that it brought a lump to the throat to see how the film that defined space adventure for a generation was literally dragged kicking and screaming to the screen, all despite incredible odds, horrendous bad luck and dumbass studio execs through the sheer force of will and unshakable self belief that the story he was telling had to be told. Much as I really dont like how he conducts himself these days, no-one could say the man hasn't earned his place in history and in the hearts and minds of thirtysomethings globally. I can't hear the opening bars of the John Williams theme without getting chills down my spine and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Re:Lucas was a visionary
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Jugalator
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Good god, do you really have some sort of emotional bond with the original trilogy to such an extent that it affects you physically just being reminded of it? That's not insightful, that's sad.
This "emotional bond" you speak of is common among people who like a movie, or any art form for that sake, a lot. I feel sad for you if you've never found a good enough movie to experience it. I can listen to great pieces of music and it gives me chills, and I can watch movies that brings me to tears. A whole lot of us can. I hope you can feel some kind of emotions when watching movies, since it's great things to experience.:-)
I can't imagine how boring going to the cinemas would be if you couldn't create an emotional bond to some of the characters, for example by humor, anger, love, sadness, or something else.
Star Wars was a good bunch of movies. But they certainly aren't anyhing to spend more than a few seconds reminiscing about.
What can I say... That's just your opinion, and if you have a hard time accepting others, feeling the need to look down on others, you're just narrow-minded.
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The man deserves it
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Dancin_Santa
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Having the dumb luck to stumble into the greatest movie franchise in history, Lucas has taken that little bit of luck and transformed it into his vision of a complete alternate universe. Had he been any other short-sighted director (Spielberg, I'm looking right at you and your last half of A.I.) the Star Wars trilogy would have simply ended with the dance of the Ewoks. However, Lucas was able to transform that complete story into a more complete story by going back and fixing and editing and putting in scenes that were originally not his vision in the first place. I hate to use the word visionary, but Lucas truly has a vision.
The problem is that most people cannot understand the mind of a visionary and it isn't until long after they fade into irrelevance that they truly become appreciated. So too it is with Lucas, I believe. Many people are so worried about their childhood memories that they cry wolf every time Lucas decides to change a scene. Nevermind the fact that the whole Star Wars universe makes more sense when the updated (Director's Cut, if you will) scenes are added to the films.
Lucas truly does deserve this award not only for what rich memories he brought to us when we were still kids, but also for the memories he gives kids of the future. When we look back in 20 years and reminisce about the Star Wars Nonology we will finally see why Greedo had to shoot first and why Jar Jar was crucial to the story of Anakin Skywalker.
Re:The man deserves it
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Dunkelzahn
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I think Revenge of the Sith is going to change alot of people's views of the Prequels and the Original Trilogy, in a good way. Judging from various leaks, spoilers, and Hyperspace tidbits, I think Revenge of the Sith will be the best of the prequels, and will be more than worthwhile.
As for Jar-Jar - we're supposed to hate him. He's the dumb bitch who hands the Republic over to Palpatine on a silver platter, so...
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Re:The man deserves it
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op51n
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When we look back in 20 years and reminisce about the Star Wars Nonology we will finally see why Greedo had to shoot first and why Jar Jar was crucial to the story of Anakin Skywalker.
I totally disagree. I have tried not to care about the changes he continues to make, as I have copies of the original release that will keep me happy, but I just can't fathom his decisions. Well... No, that's not quite true.
I took a look at the comparison of the three releases, and the apparently dodgy censorship (the red flashes in the prison scene) and Greedo's shooting first, only appear to be ways of making the film more kid friendly. As of course Jar Jar and the awful slapstick he added in the Mos Eisley approach and other inserts also go to show.
I just can't understand why he is doing this. It removes about thirteen layers from Han's character, making him fairly uninteresting for a start.
It's not that I'm worried about my childhood memories. Like I say, I have the originals, my memories are intact. The problem is, now anyone who hasn't seen the originals will see the new DVD release, and it's not the same movie. I can fully appreciate a director's wish to go back and fix special effects, and even insert some new scenes to expand the scale - like with Mos Eisley. But I'd do it seriously. Adding laughs into those bits is lame and wrong pacewise.
Basically, he's taken his movies, and turned them into a cleaner, more child-friendly franchise. I almost wouldn't be surprised if he does release the unaltered remastered editions to get the rest of the available cash, but that depends on if he's willing to allow such violence to be seen! I've lost pretty much all my respect for the guy, aside from, as someone mentioned, what he did for sound and effects in the industry.
Re:The man deserves it
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bob+beta
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Nevermind the fact that the whole Star Wars universe makes more sense when the updated (Director's Cut, if you will) scenes are added to the films.
You see, there's the problem. Great stories, and good movies, don't have to 'make sense' in that way. There's a trick in drama called the 'aesthetic distance' where the audience is supposed to 'buy into' the fact that the performance is an approximation, and expand the spectacle themselves, internally in their own mind.
Loose ends, paradoxes, etc. are supposed to be overwhelmed and become irrelevant because the dramatic effect smooths it all over.
Instead, in Lucas, and in filmmakers like him (sadly a dominant force these days in filmmaking) everything has to be 'real' or as 'real-seeming' as can be made possible.
It's like the difference between a fabulous Doctor Who episode, with cheese props but a wonderfully crafted story and brilliant acting, and the massively engineered psuedo-reality of the modern flicks. One works well within limits and succeeds in going beyond said limits. The other is just 'as good as it could be in the era it was produced' and people ten years later will obsess over the then-obsolete rough edges.
For a technician like Lucas, the second production makes him a ton of money. It also sells a lot more home theatre hardware and drives a need to continually upgrade the playback hardware in the theatres. I guess that stuff is important to some people.
Re:The man deserves it
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WaterBreath
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I've got to wholeheartedly agree with the general sense of this article, that Lucas does deserve this award. I think people are overlooking some things when they consider this.
First of all, Lucas has made more than 5 movies. Second, Lucas has made more than 5 blockbuster movies. (He had to be doing something right.) Third, not only has he made blockbuster movies, but he's made meaningful movies, such as American Grafitti and THX-1138.
Regarding people's newfound hate of Lucas for his remastering/editing of the Star Wars Trilogy... I'll admit that I'm young enough that I saw the first three movies on VHS when I was very young. When the remastered versions came out I didn't remember the originals very well. It was like seeing them for the first time. And from that viewpoint I can tell you that the remakes are still good movies. I also think the prequels are good. As good as the originals. The problem is that the overall quality of movies in general has improved so much. There are many movies that flop today, but would have been blockbusters in the 1970s. The prequels are just not as far above the average today as the originals were when they came out.
Lucas essentially created the film epic. It may have been tried before, but Lucas was the first to do it successfully in both the eyes of his peers and the eyes of the public. And I'll go so far as to say that he has had no rival. The Matrix started out great, but most of the people that went to the third one did it only out of half-hearted hope and a desire for some sort of closure. The LOTR trilogy is awesome, but it's an adaptation, not an original work like Star Wars. (And don't talk about theft of concepts, because Tolkein was just as "bad", stealing from all sorts of mythologies.)
Lucas deserves this award, if solely for what he did with the original Star Wars movies. Even if you can't get over his recent changes, that doesn't changes how he affected the movie industry.
Re:The man deserves it
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ScrewMaster
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No, don't give Lucas a free pass on this one. Keep the pressure on.
The fact remains that it is perfectly possible to create a character that everyone is supposed to hate (say, Governor Tarkin, Darth Vader, Boba Fett, Jabba the Hutt, The Emperor himself, and of course all the lesser Empire underlings who were killed along the way) but Jar Jar was simply stupid, and Lucasfilms' mastery of digital effects didn't extend to making him a believable alien. Maybe they could now, renderfarms are bigger nowadays, but he just looked like a cartoon character stuck in the middle of an otherwise spectacular collection of special effects. I'm sorry, but I look at Jar Jar as a transparent effort to create more action-figure sales rather than a serious effort to develop a character that would advance the plot of the movie. You're supposed to hate a bad character for what he does. I hate Jar Jar because of what he is. If Lucas had had a clue as to how many die-hard Star Wars fans (like me) he would alienate with that bit of cinematic crap known as Jar Jar he might have rethought the whole thing. And that includes Jar Jar's entire clan: "Shield be going up!" and all that. Viewers were legitimately disappointed in Lucas for that.
-- The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
Re:The man deserves it
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fucksl4shd0t
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Look, I don't really like Jar-Jar either, but there's a little more going on in the Phantom Menace than the introduction of Anakin Skywalker.
First and foremost, the story in the Phantom Menace is about Naboo, the Queen, and some cultural changes that need to take place for them to keep their independence. Sure, we watch the movie and know that it's only a small episode in the grand scheme of things, and that what's really important in this movie is the introduction of Darth Vader, the beginning of his relationship with Obi-Wan, and the return of the Sith to the Republic.
Hate Jar-Jar all you want, but hate the game, not the player. Jar-Jar's purpose in the flick was to bring the Naboo and the Gungans together to beat a mutual enemy, and the cultural changes that happen on Naboo as a result are fundamental and important.
I actually like the Phantom Menace, but in order to watch it I have to hypnotize myself into thinking I'm 8 years old. But other than that, I find it's a decent flick. But a "flick" is exactly what it is. How good or bad either of the first two episodes are will be determined by the third episode.
past winners
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Pompatus
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According to MSN Encarta (hey, it was the first one I found on a google search) these are the past winners of the AFI Lifetime achievement award.
1973 John Ford
1974 James Cagney
1975 Orson Welles
1976 William Wyler
1977 Bette Davis
1978 Henry Fonda
1979 Alfred Hitchcock
1980 James Stewart
1981 Fred Astaire
1982 Frank Capra
1983 John Huston
1984 Lillian Gish
1985 Gene Kelly
1986 Billy Wilder
1987 Barbara Stanwyck
1988 Jack Lemmon
1989 Gregory Peck
1990 Sir David Lean
1991 Kirk Douglas
1992 Sidney Poitier
1993 Elizabeth Taylor
1994 Jack Nicholson
1995 Steven Spielberg
1996 Clint Eastwood
1997 Martin Scorsese
1998 Robert Wise
1999 Dustin Hoffman
2000 Harrison Ford
2001 Barbra Streisand
2002 Tom Hanks
2003 Robert De Niro
2004 Meryl Streep
There are some pretty serious names on that list. My point is, why now? The nostalgia for the first trilogy of films is good and all, but really, they were only 3 movies.
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Re:past winners
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TheKidWho
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YES! At least Han _won_ first and Lucas can't change it.;-)
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Well deserved
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AndrewStephens
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Much as we all enjoy reading about how Lucus raped your childhood, his movies are probably only a small part of why he is getting this award. The man is directly responsible for much of the technology behind modern film making - nonlinear editing, sound post-production and reproduction, digital effects, virtual sets, virtual extras, and now he is a leading force in digital film. Not to mention the great strides he made in marketing and licensing:) All these techniques were developed for his projects, and there is not a film made today that does not use them in some way. He is certainly more deserving than 2001's winner - Barbra Streisand!
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There is a significant part of the film community that doesn't see a causal link between technical and artist achievement. Many actually see the relative surge in the use of SFX as determintal to cinema. After all blue screen, CGI and digital worlds are just tools. Tools that can be used to create a masterpiece (Citizen Kane has a similar amount of effect shots as Star Wars, yet you wouldn't know) or create a Michael Bay film. I would also like you to consider a timeline of special effects, in many cases Lucas wasn't the conceiver, but the populariser.
I respect and appreciate the technical strides that Lucas took. Hell, I am enough of a geek to be here. However the AFI doesn't give technical awards, but artist awards. Cultural impact aside, I firmly believe Lucas isn't worthy of such an award.
Just an opinion of a film nerd. I am the guy who writes essays on the link between R2D2 and characters in Akira Kurosawa films. Disagree if you must, and many will.
Wrong, now he has confirmation he needs to pursue episodes VII, VIII, and IX. No, as a lifetime achievement award winner, no one will question his decision to rework the triology so that Han Solo's name is actually Beau, and in episode VII we learn that Beau and Luke are cousins, and Han's long lost father returns, Uncle Jessie. The empire is defeated, but pockets of control remain throughout the galaxy, especially on the planet of Hazzard. Here Beau and Luke, the newly named Dukes of Hazzard, are sent to eliminate the remaining emperial forces. Lando, will of course have taken the Millenium Falcon, but that's ok because Beau will reveal that he has been working on a supped up ship, named after one of the great hearo's of the rebel resistance, the General Lee. Finally the Star Wars vision, the Lucas vision, can be realized.
Oh... and I've heard in episode VIII Beau and Luke will run into a group of wrongly accused ex-rebel fighters, named Murdoch, Hannibal, Face, and B.A. Barachus. I pity the fool who misses this movie!
And finally, we might see N-Sync do a cameo in the movie (that would be awesome d00d).
Re:It's a tremendous achievement
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koh
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Okay, okay, so why isn't it called the "shitload of money achievement" ? Would be more to the point, don't you think ?:)
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Yeah, Lucas is a hack...
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Perdition
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but what have YOU done?
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Re:Yeah, Lucas is a hack...
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Dancin_Santa
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Why not? All you need is a pen. Don't let the condensation hold you back!
Re:Yeah, Lucas is a hack...
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Tackhead
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> but what have YOU done?
Throughout my entire life, I was able not to create Jar Jar Binks.
It's all about special effects...
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pedantic+bore
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If you RTFA, you'll see that what is being recognized is primarily Lucas's pioneering work in special effects: ILM, Pixar, Lucas Sound, etc. The man might not know how to direct his way out of a paper bag, and his ear for dialog went deaf about twenty years ago, but he has created some wonderful tools for other directors/writers to use. He deserves something for that.
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American Graffiti
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httpamphibio.us
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I'm constantly surprised that George Lucas was lucid and creative enough to create American Graffiti... it's a film that has not only withstood the test of time, quite an achievement for what could have easily been just a nostalgia piece, but has the perfect balance of comedy and drama, and manages to develop many different storylines (most multi-threaded films tend to skimp on any sort of real character and story development and the crossover between storylines is often very poor).
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Maybe "lifetime" is the wrong word...
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Daniel+Ellard
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I liked THX1138 a lot. American Graffiti was great. Star Wars 4-6: when they came out, people were amazed. The Indiana Jones still looks good (well, except for maybe the last one).
That's quite a successful run. Maybe not a "lifetime" of achievement, but a bunch of great and/or insanely popular movies in a short period of time.
It's unfortunate that the recent stuff sucks, but he's still got a pretty amazing record.
-- Disclaimer: I work for a company, but I don't speak for them.
"George Lucas is receiving the AFI Lifetime Achievement award. I will make no other comment."
Oh, c'mon, don't like that. You'll get yours too, eventually!
Short sighted posters
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damieng
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As always a story brings out the most short sighted posters, upset over the treatment of Star Wars.
Lets not forget that the award is not for Star Wars but for his achievements to the industry.
Lucas helped found ILM which helped get special effects to the what they are today. Skywalker Sound has contributed to hundreds of films. THX certification got cinemas, film and DVD production quality up.
And personally, I loved Howard the Duck...
-- [)amien
He's done more for the business of movies
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hargettp
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Yet perhaps not so much for the art of movies. Alas, because I enjoyed the original trilogy so much in my childhood.
He created one of the greatest (and first, I believe) movie merchandizing businesses in history. I would question whether there would be so many "Power Ranger Toys" or "Barney" tie-ins if the Star Wars franchise hadn't done been so successful.
He has continually expanded the frontier of digital effects in film-making, and although in recent years his studio's work has been eclipsed by other films (e.g., The Matrix, Shrek, Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, etc.), I do believe that nevertheless he deserves credit for the push towards effective uses of digital imagery in cinema.
He has enhanced the audio experience in most large cinemas in operation today (at least in the US). I can't say how many times I've seen "THX-1138" digital surround sound by Dolby--that sound system was developed in conjunction with Lucas' team.
He was first to expand the idea of film sequels (and series) in modern cinema. Would we have had Die Hard, Die Harder were it not for Lucas? Would we have The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix Revolutions were it not for Lucas? What about Star Trek the Movie I-IV? Back to the Future I-II? If the original trilogy had not been so popular with audiences, would subsequent sequels & series concepts have been developed other major film studios?
There may be other such achievements as well, but with the above I think there is a strong case that Lucas reshaped how the business of movies does it's business.
Re:He's done more for the business of movies
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rdean400
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although in recent years his studio's work has been eclipsed by other films (e.g., The Matrix, Shrek, Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow).
I would dispute that.
Pixar really plays to different market segments than Lucas's films, so they haven't really eclipsed Lucas's work. (And to be fair, Pixar itself started out as a division of Lucasfilm, Ltd. It was purchased by Steve Jobs for $10mil in 1986 and rechristened "Pixar".). No Pixar = no Toy Story, and no Toy Story means we probably wouldn't have seen a good wholly computer animated picture yet.
ILM was the special effects studio for Sky Captain and the World fo Tomorrow, so Lucas's company was part of that one.
That leaves the Matrix. Although bullet time generated more buzz than massively digitally created armies of Phantom Menace, it's about equivalent on the revolutionary scale. Matrix got perceived as better by having a more well-executed story.
The fact is engraved into Pixar's HQ: "No amount of technology can turn a bad story into a good one" (Although TPM and AOTC were good stories, poorly told).
We'll Ignore...
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a_peckover
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...the parts where he revolutionised film making (THX, Skywalker Sound, ILM, non-linear editing) and where he became the most successful independent film-maker of all time.
I absolutely agree.
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MtViewGuy
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I mean think about it:
1. Industrial Light and Magic essentially pioneered the modern age of cinematic special effects. They took "traditional" special effects to new levels of excellence and helped pioneer CGI effects for movies.
2. Pixar pioneered much of what computer animation can do, and under subsequent leadership of Steve Jobs the company has produced several blockbuster hit movies.
3. Lucas Sound helped develop the THX certification for high quality movie presentation in the theaters, and it has extended that certification to DVD mastering, too. A THX-certified DVD tends to have high-quality picture and sound on average.
I'm probably the only one in the world who thinks
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SynapseLapse
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But I think he should win for giving us the beloved Lucasarts company...:)
Well, up until the screwed up, and then canceled Sam and Max 2 and Full Throttle.
Re:This is embarassing
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inkswamp
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Give it up. I've tried modding some of the outright flamebaitery where posters call Lucas every filthy word in the book and every time I do it, I get meta-modded as "unfair." There is a massive amount of anti-Star Wars venom on Slashdot (hell, this post will likely get modded as "troll" at some point too.)
Some folks around here have taken to hating Lucas with a sort of religious zeal and nothing you can say will change that. I grew up with Star Wars as a massive component of my life, and I think the new versions of the films kick the old versions' asses up and down the street a half-dozen times. But some people around here disagree and won't tolerate opposing points of view. Frankly, I think it's a little unhealthy to get so wrapped up in this stuff that you allow it to affect your emotions and judgment to that extent.
HarveyBirddman, if you want to engage in more mature and meaningful discourse about the films, go to The Force.net and try out their fan forums. Much more respectful and knowledgeable and level-headed group there and it's not as Lucas-worshipping as you might at first assume (plenty of valid critiques of Lucas there without the emotional outpouring and the wailing about ruined childhoods.)
Honestly, I don't know why Slashdot insists that this stuff should be posted here anymore. Clearly, the Slashdot crowd and the Star Wars fan do not overlap much nowadays.
-- --Rick
"If it isn't broken, take it apart and find out why."
you would think
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geekoid
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that a place that alledgedly devoted to 'News for Nerds' would appriacte this a lot more.
1) Made Sci-fi movies Mainstream 2) Set ground work for technology to make better sci-fi movies 3) Created the most Kick ass Sci-fi movie of it's time. 4) Independant film maker
What's with the haters? Quite frankly this 'it's big and worth a lot of money so lets hate it attitude has gotten old.' Except for Google. Speak bad about Google and you'll be moderated down to hell.
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1) Made Sci-fi movies Mainstream 2) Set ground work for technology to make better sci-fi movies 3) Created the most Kick ass Sci-fi movie of it's time. 4) Independant film maker
You forgot:
5) PROFIT!
(disclaimer: I've loved Lucas' work since THX1138, and think he deserves the award. But this is Slashdot, and the rules clearly state that All Lists Must End With Profit)
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To receive the Lifetime Achievement Award Special Edition in 2005, and the Super Extended Lifetime Achievement Award Special Edition Platinum in 2014.
I didn't know trashing the trilogy was an achievement... go figure... fp?
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Yawn. Who cares? A lifetime achievement award for making a bunch of low-quality plot-recipe movies and becoming stinking rich as a result; and we have to give him an award?
I was unaware that giving birth to Jar-Jar Binks was considered as a "life achievement"...
Then again, everything depends on what you mean by "achievement".
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Where is Jar Jar's award!?!?!?!
All we need, now he'll think he's good and remaster Indian jones... and Indie wont shoot first.
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I can't wait until 20 years down the road, when he releases the DVD of the AFI program, replacing a 60 year old Lucas with a virile 20 year old version of himself. There will be space battles, too.
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that that award was for someone who continues to innovate and pursue new things, not someone who does something great and spends the next 20 years tinkering with minute details of said work.
For remastering dvd to show a puppet, now with more wrinkles!?
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Although I will say they have finally found a good character for his over-acting on Boston Legal.
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The criteria stated that "the recipient should be one whose talent has in a fundamental way advanced the film art; whose accomplishment has been acknowledged by scholars, critics, professional peers and the general public; and whose work has stood the test of time." In 1993, AFI trustees extended the criteria to encompass individuals with active careers and work of significance yet to be accomplished. "
(From http://www.afi.com/tvevents/laa/laasite/)
Despite the debacles that are the 'new' trilogy, no fan could watch the extras DVD that came with Star Wars and deny that it brought a lump to the throat to see how the film that defined space adventure for a generation was literally dragged kicking and screaming to the screen, all despite incredible odds, horrendous bad luck and dumbass studio execs through the sheer force of will and unshakable self belief that the story he was telling had to be told. Much as I really dont like how he conducts himself these days, no-one could say the man hasn't earned his place in history and in the hearts and minds of thirtysomethings globally. I can't hear the opening bars of the John Williams theme without getting chills down my spine and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Having the dumb luck to stumble into the greatest movie franchise in history, Lucas has taken that little bit of luck and transformed it into his vision of a complete alternate universe. Had he been any other short-sighted director (Spielberg, I'm looking right at you and your last half of A.I.) the Star Wars trilogy would have simply ended with the dance of the Ewoks. However, Lucas was able to transform that complete story into a more complete story by going back and fixing and editing and putting in scenes that were originally not his vision in the first place. I hate to use the word visionary, but Lucas truly has a vision.
The problem is that most people cannot understand the mind of a visionary and it isn't until long after they fade into irrelevance that they truly become appreciated. So too it is with Lucas, I believe. Many people are so worried about their childhood memories that they cry wolf every time Lucas decides to change a scene. Nevermind the fact that the whole Star Wars universe makes more sense when the updated (Director's Cut, if you will) scenes are added to the films.
Lucas truly does deserve this award not only for what rich memories he brought to us when we were still kids, but also for the memories he gives kids of the future. When we look back in 20 years and reminisce about the Star Wars Nonology we will finally see why Greedo had to shoot first and why Jar Jar was crucial to the story of Anakin Skywalker.
According to MSN Encarta (hey, it was the first one I found on a google search) these are the past winners of the AFI Lifetime achievement award.
1973 John Ford
1974 James Cagney
1975 Orson Welles
1976 William Wyler
1977 Bette Davis
1978 Henry Fonda
1979 Alfred Hitchcock
1980 James Stewart
1981 Fred Astaire
1982 Frank Capra
1983 John Huston
1984 Lillian Gish
1985 Gene Kelly
1986 Billy Wilder
1987 Barbara Stanwyck
1988 Jack Lemmon
1989 Gregory Peck
1990 Sir David Lean
1991 Kirk Douglas
1992 Sidney Poitier
1993 Elizabeth Taylor
1994 Jack Nicholson
1995 Steven Spielberg
1996 Clint Eastwood
1997 Martin Scorsese
1998 Robert Wise
1999 Dustin Hoffman
2000 Harrison Ford
2001 Barbra Streisand
2002 Tom Hanks
2003 Robert De Niro
2004 Meryl Streep
There are some pretty serious names on that list. My point is, why now? The nostalgia for the first trilogy of films is good and all, but really, they were only 3 movies.
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Much as we all enjoy reading about how Lucus raped your childhood, his movies are probably only a small part of why he is getting this award. The man is directly responsible for much of the technology behind modern film making - nonlinear editing, sound post-production and reproduction, digital effects, virtual sets, virtual extras, and now he is a leading force in digital film. Not to mention the great strides he made in marketing and licensing :)
All these techniques were developed for his projects, and there is not a film made today that does not use them in some way.
He is certainly more deserving than 2001's winner - Barbra Streisand!
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Now he can quit.
Okay, okay, so why isn't it called the "shitload of money achievement" ? Would be more to the point, don't you think ? :)
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but what have YOU done?
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I'm constantly surprised that George Lucas was lucid and creative enough to create American Graffiti... it's a film that has not only withstood the test of time, quite an achievement for what could have easily been just a nostalgia piece, but has the perfect balance of comedy and drama, and manages to develop many different storylines (most multi-threaded films tend to skimp on any sort of real character and story development and the crossover between storylines is often very poor).
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That's quite a successful run. Maybe not a "lifetime" of achievement, but a bunch of great and/or insanely popular movies in a short period of time.
It's unfortunate that the recent stuff sucks, but he's still got a pretty amazing record.
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"George Lucas is receiving the AFI Lifetime Achievement award. I will make no other comment."
Oh, c'mon, don't like that. You'll get yours too, eventually!
As always a story brings out the most short sighted posters, upset over the treatment of Star Wars.
Lets not forget that the award is not for Star Wars but for his achievements to the industry.
Lucas helped found ILM which helped get special effects to the what they are today. Skywalker Sound has contributed to hundreds of films. THX certification got cinemas, film and DVD production quality up.
And personally, I loved Howard the Duck...
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Yet perhaps not so much for the art of movies. Alas, because I enjoyed the original trilogy so much in my childhood.
He created one of the greatest (and first, I believe) movie merchandizing businesses in history. I would question whether there would be so many "Power Ranger Toys" or "Barney" tie-ins if the Star Wars franchise hadn't done been so successful.
He has continually expanded the frontier of digital effects in film-making, and although in recent years his studio's work has been eclipsed by other films (e.g., The Matrix, Shrek, Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, etc.), I do believe that nevertheless he deserves credit for the push towards effective uses of digital imagery in cinema.
He has enhanced the audio experience in most large cinemas in operation today (at least in the US). I can't say how many times I've seen "THX-1138" digital surround sound by Dolby--that sound system was developed in conjunction with Lucas' team.
He was first to expand the idea of film sequels (and series) in modern cinema. Would we have had Die Hard, Die Harder were it not for Lucas? Would we have The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix Revolutions were it not for Lucas? What about Star Trek the Movie I-IV? Back to the Future I-II? If the original trilogy had not been so popular with audiences, would subsequent sequels & series concepts have been developed other major film studios?
There may be other such achievements as well, but with the above I think there is a strong case that Lucas reshaped how the business of movies does it's business.
...the parts where he revolutionised film making (THX, Skywalker Sound, ILM, non-linear editing) and where he became the most successful independent film-maker of all time.
I mean think about it:
1. Industrial Light and Magic essentially pioneered the modern age of cinematic special effects. They took "traditional" special effects to new levels of excellence and helped pioneer CGI effects for movies.
2. Pixar pioneered much of what computer animation can do, and under subsequent leadership of Steve Jobs the company has produced several blockbuster hit movies.
3. Lucas Sound helped develop the THX certification for high quality movie presentation in the theaters, and it has extended that certification to DVD mastering, too. A THX-certified DVD tends to have high-quality picture and sound on average.
But I think he should win for giving us the beloved Lucasarts company... :)
Well, up until the screwed up, and then canceled Sam and Max 2 and Full Throttle.
Some folks around here have taken to hating Lucas with a sort of religious zeal and nothing you can say will change that. I grew up with Star Wars as a massive component of my life, and I think the new versions of the films kick the old versions' asses up and down the street a half-dozen times. But some people around here disagree and won't tolerate opposing points of view. Frankly, I think it's a little unhealthy to get so wrapped up in this stuff that you allow it to affect your emotions and judgment to that extent.
HarveyBirddman, if you want to engage in more mature and meaningful discourse about the films, go to The Force.net and try out their fan forums. Much more respectful and knowledgeable and level-headed group there and it's not as Lucas-worshipping as you might at first assume (plenty of valid critiques of Lucas there without the emotional outpouring and the wailing about ruined childhoods.)
Honestly, I don't know why Slashdot insists that this stuff should be posted here anymore. Clearly, the Slashdot crowd and the Star Wars fan do not overlap much nowadays.
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that a place that alledgedly devoted to 'News for Nerds' would appriacte this a lot more.
1) Made Sci-fi movies Mainstream
2) Set ground work for technology to make better sci-fi movies
3) Created the most Kick ass Sci-fi movie of it's time.
4) Independant film maker
What's with the haters?
Quite frankly this 'it's big and worth a lot of money so lets hate it attitude has gotten old.' Except for Google. Speak bad about Google and you'll be moderated down to hell.
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What can I say... That's just your opinion, and if you have a hard time accepting others, feeling the need to look down on others, you're just narrow-minded.
That is by far the coolest quote I've found on slashdot. I think it really speaks for itself. Someday, I dream of cobbling together such an utterance into such a form.
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...some of the events in his life will be altered so they more closely match the life George originally intended.
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