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George Lucas to Receive Lifetime Achievement Award

KefabiMe writes "George Lucas is receiving the AFI Lifetime Achievement award. I will make no other comment."

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  1. Lucas Also Plans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    To receive the Lifetime Achievement Award Special Edition in 2005, and the Super Extended Lifetime Achievement Award Special Edition Platinum in 2014.

    1. Re:Lucas Also Plans by feidaykin · · Score: 5, Funny
      Yeah, in a recent interview, Lucas said:

      "I was only about 40% happy with the original award. There were things we just couldn't do when I first got it. The new award, I am 95% happy with. The fans of the awards may take some issue with it, but the award is for me, not them."

      Spoiling the joke by explaining it here: The 40% figure is what Lucas said about how happy he was with the original Star Wars when it was finished in 1977. He then went on to say he was 95% happy with Episode I. Which proves that the less happy he is with a film, the more happy everyone else is... ;)

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    2. Re:Lucas Also Plans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      in an irritating form of CGI ;)

    3. Re:Lucas Also Plans by Private+Public · · Score: 1

      He'll still "improve" it to get that 5% satisfaction and 35% extra profit.

    4. Re:Lucas Also Plans by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 1

      Well yes. But it also indicates that he's probably like Rain Man since he can whip out figures like that from his head and actually quantify his gut feelings. Must be something ALL "comic book guys" can relate to. ;P

    5. Re:Lucas Also Plans by bretharder · · Score: 1

      Glad to know you're not biased considering you're judging 3 before it's released.

    6. Re:Lucas Also Plans by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

      If Lucas is only 40% happy with the original Star Wars, then I want 60% of my money back!

    7. Re:Lucas Also Plans by jeremyp · · Score: 1

      They are probably making the said remarks *because* they own the DVDs or have seen the films.

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    8. Re:Lucas Also Plans by OverflowingBitBucket · · Score: 4, Funny

      I notice Harrison Ford won it in 2000. So Han (sorry Ford) won it first.

      Give it a few years, and they'll release a special edition of the award, where Lucas wins first.

  2. Remastered trilogy by Nova1313 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I didn't know trashing the trilogy was an achievement... go figure... fp?

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    1. Re:Remastered trilogy by Nova1313 · · Score: 1

      true such a thing is hard to single handedly do.

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  3. Yoda Speak by TheKidWho · · Score: 2, Funny

    Award win you shall!

    1. Re:Yoda Speak by sparcnut · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not quite, try "Award you shall win!"

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    2. Re:Yoda Speak by The-Bus · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Soviet Yoda, YOU shall win award!

      You have to give Lucas some credit. What other filmmaker is so ridiculously lauded based on the strengths of two good movies?

      Oh yeah, Quentin Tarantino.

      *ducks*

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    3. Re:Yoda Speak by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Try, "Win award shall you, yeees! Ummm?"

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    4. Re:Yoda Speak by SunPin · · Score: 1

      Try "win award you shall."

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    5. Re:Yoda Speak by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      I dunno ... I think Yoda's syntax would have put the "you" at the end. Too bad Jim Henson isn't around to give a definitive answer.

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    6. Re:Yoda Speak by TheKidWho · · Score: 1

      hah I originally had "Award you shall win!"

    7. Re:Yoda Speak by flosofl · · Score: 1

      Considering Yoda was Frank Oz, I don't know what good it would do to have Jim Henson around. Of course, it would be interesting to hear his take on the crapitude of the Muppet movies since he died...

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  4. I will. by nblender · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yawn. Who cares? A lifetime achievement award for making a bunch of low-quality plot-recipe movies and becoming stinking rich as a result; and we have to give him an award?

    1. Re:I will. by Penguinoflight · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's just the sad thing of this award. If the film industry had realized the long ranging impact of the 3 originals, they probably would have handed Lucas the award in the 80s. By now recieving an award doesn't make any sense because of low quality prequals, etc... but how can you know something is a classic in less than 10 years?

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    2. Re:I will. by mankey+wanker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hey, I practically hate most of the guy's movies - but let's not forget what Lucas has done for special effects, cinema sound, etc. Somehow he was also partly responsible for the film "Mishima" which I think is quite brilliant. "American Graffiti" wasn't bad either.

      But anyway, the next time the special effects appear to be seemless and the sound quality vibrates your theater seat - remember Lucas for caring about that stuff. He's certainly moved some things along which is more than most people do.

    3. Re:I will. by arose · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I take good movies in black and white with mono sound over bad movies with excelent visual and sound effects.

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    4. Re:I will. by sgant · · Score: 1

      Then again, you should thank Lucas for that as well as he and Skywalker Ranch are very involved with old film preservation and restoration (though not into preserving his own films...but that's beside the point here...but perhaps after he's gone, Skywalker Ranch will "restore" the original 1977 Star Wars...hey, stranger things have happened.)

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    5. Re:I will. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      but let's not forget what Lucas has done for special effects, cinema sound, etc.

      He deserves a special award because he looked at the current state of audio and video and turned his nose up at it and demanded more money be spent on more technology? Sounds like he simply demanded a higher level of medium in which to do his work, he had a team of guys do their homework then slap his company name on the project and declare "if you don't have THX then you are nothing, btw, it costs $90,000 to for a license to use THX, thanks in advance".

      Just because the first invented a stop sign doesn't mean they would never have been invented.

    6. Re:I will. by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      Yawn. Who cares? A lifetime achievement award for making a bunch of low-quality plot-recipe movies and becoming stinking rich as a result; and we have to give him an award?

      I liked his movies a lot, especially as a kid. :-)
      Ahh, those were the days...!

      Only as I've grown older I'm seeing the flaws in his movies, but who's to say a prize should only be given because adults don't like something. I doubt these movies were intended for adults after all, because of the clearly defined "good and evil" so even very young people understand what's going on.

      I can't speak for him being worthy this award or not, but given the right audiences (and I don't think it's particularly small), it's a masterpiece.

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    7. Re:I will. by maxume · · Score: 1

      Just because the first invented a stop sign doesn't mean they would never have been invented.

      So being first deserves no credit in your mind? Somebody else probably would have applied the concepts of calculus to phyics, but Newton gets quite a bit of respect for having done it first

      I didn't mean to inadvertantly compare Lucas to Newton though, oops...

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    8. Re:I will. by SoLO · · Score: 1

      Don't forget he contributed to the Indiana Jones movies as well. He also invented through his studios some technical achievments for movies. Probably the rationale here.

    9. Re:I will. by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hint: They give "Lifetime achievement" awards when they think it's time for you to stop making movies.

      Hint 2: This award is being given to him BEFORE the theatrical release of Episode III.

      Therefore, I think this Lifetime Award idea has a lot of merit to it...

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    10. Re:I will. by kamapuaa · · Score: 2, Informative
      I take good movies in black and white with mono sound over bad movies with excelent visual and sound effects.

      It's not just stupid blockbusters. ILM type effects, as they trickle down to cheaper and cheaper production companies, have a huge influence on movies high and low, probably the largest change in the look of films since French New-Wave techniques. "Amelie" used CGI effects in nearly every scene (if just to increase contrast), low-budget "Eurotrip" inserted the Tower of London to a scene of Prague, to avoid the budget hit of a trip to London. Cannes award winner "Oldboy" used computer effects to visualize memories. I don't have to mention "Lord of the Rings."

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    11. Re:I will. by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Yawn. Who cares? A lifetime achievement award for making a bunch of low-quality plot-recipe movies and becoming stinking rich as a result; and we have to give him an award?"

      Like or hate Star Wars, it's hard to ignore the whole bit about ILM's advances in visual FX.

      " "He has advanced the art of the moving image like few others, and in the process has inspired a new generation of filmmakers around the world."

      Star Wars may suck, but that has little bearing on the above comment.

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    12. Re:I will. by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I take good movies in black and white with mono sound over bad movies with excelent visual and sound effects."

      George gave moviemakers better tools. He can't make other moviemakers make better movies.

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  5. Hmmmm... by koh · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was unaware that giving birth to Jar-Jar Binks was considered as a "life achievement"...

    Then again, everything depends on what you mean by "achievement".

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    1. Re:Hmmmm... by meringuoid · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's an immense achievement. Jar-Jar was so bad that it made the Ewoks look like fucking Shaft.

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    2. Re:Hmmmm... by mflinquin · · Score: 1

      all hail simon pegg.

    3. Re:Hmmmm... by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      "Jar-Jar was so bad that it made the Ewoks look like fucking Shaft"

      I hope you're happy. I'll never be able to watch Shaft again without imagining an Ewok playing the role :).

    4. Re:Hmmmm... by glenebob · · Score: 1

      I think the real achievment here is that, while Jar Jar was completetely OUT OF FREAKING CONTROL in the first prequel, he was actually able to seemlessly STFU and all but go away in the second one.

      I don't think that was the least bit conspicuous :-)

    5. Re:Hmmmm... by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
      > > "Jar-Jar was so bad that it made the Ewoks look like fucking Shaft"
      >
      >I hope you're happy. I'll never be able to watch Shaft again without imagining an Ewok playing the role :).

      Who's the furry private dick
      That's a sex machine to all the chicks?
      WICKET!
      Yub dammmn nub!

      Coatee cha tu goo (Shaft!)
      coatee cha tu doo (Shaft!)
      coatee cha tu too (Shaft!)
      Allay loo ta nuv!

    6. Re:Hmmmm... by Jardine · · Score: 1

      I hope you're happy. I'll never be able to watch Shaft again without imagining an Ewok playing the role :).

      Try thinking of it the other way. The Ewoks all played by Shaft. Now that would give the stormtroopers something to worry about. Han would probably have to be worried too. Once Leia's had Shaft, she'll never go back.

    7. Re:Hmmmm... by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      all hail simon pegg.

      Spot on. Now, if you'll excuse me, I believe I have something of interest in my coat pocket...

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  6. Wait a sec... by chrisgeleven · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where is Jar Jar's award!?!?!?!

    1. Re:Wait a sec... by Tersevs · · Score: 1

      Oh Jar Jar! Nobody loves you but me...

    2. Re:Wait a sec... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Mesah won no award!?!? Yousah kidding! Jar Jar given award by Naboo Princess! Kiss on cheek! Jar Jar no need lifetime achievement award. Mesah still archieve only half lifetime greatness. Yousah gonna see lotsa more of Jar Jar nows!

    3. Re:Wait a sec... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Gollum strangled him in the parking lot before he could accept. "Now we will have friendsess."

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  7. woohoo by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 4, Funny

    All we need, now he'll think he's good and remaster Indian jones... and Indie wont shoot first.

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    1. Re:woohoo by ibentmywookie · · Score: 5, Funny

      Indian Jones? What are they outsourcing fucking movie actors now?

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    2. Re:woohoo by ibentmywookie · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hmmm, I'm having "posters remorse" on that last post.

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    3. Re:woohoo by John3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      They won't redo the Indiana Jones films because Spielberg and others would have to be involved. Lucas doesn't have 100% control of that series so he needs get approval and signed contracts from too many folks to make changes.

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    4. Re:woohoo by JohnPerkins · · Score: 1

      Indian jones? You mean Indiana Jones?

      ...something about a native american remake or one from India...

    5. Re:woohoo by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Steve, I'd like to do some work on Jones."

      "George, we finished Jones a long time ago."

      "Yeah, but you know, I was never really happy with it."

      "I was. And after I saw what you did to Star Wars, you can keep your filthy fingers off my flick."

      "What do you mean? Now I'm happy with Star Wars."

      "If you were playing to an audience of one, that would be great. Now go away, I'm fishing."

      "No you're not, you're making a movie."

      "What are you, stupid? Why do you think I'm wearing this silly hat and vest?"

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  8. Its not over! by bigwayne · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't wait until 20 years down the road, when he releases the DVD of the AFI program, replacing a 60 year old Lucas with a virile 20 year old version of himself. There will be space battles, too.

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  9. I thought by jstrain · · Score: 3, Insightful

    that that award was for someone who continues to innovate and pursue new things, not someone who does something great and spends the next 20 years tinkering with minute details of said work.

    1. Re:I thought by Snaller · · Score: 2, Insightful

      that that award was for someone who continues to innovate and pursue new things, not someone who does something great and spends the next 20 years tinkering with minute details of said work.


      He has - you just weren't paying attention. He has caused a shit load of inventions to take place behind the camera. Because of him a ton of people got the money they needed to invent new effects, better sound systems, etc etc.

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    2. Re:I thought by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      what.

      howard the duck isn't enough?!

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  10. Lifetime Achievement Award by slimyrubber · · Score: 4, Funny

    For remastering dvd to show a puppet, now with more wrinkles!?

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  11. This one's got a bad motivator! by bbzzdd · · Score: 3, Funny

    <Wilhelm-Scream>AHHHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHHH!</Wilhelm-Scream>

    1. Re:This one's got a bad motivator! by uberdave · · Score: 1

      More appropriately:

      George Lucas: I won the lifetime achievement award.
      Luke Skywalker: No! That's not true. That's impossible!
      George Lucas : Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
      Luke Skywalker: Nooooo! Nooooo.

  12. And lets hope... by diablo-d3 · · Score: 1, Redundant

    ... he didn't really get this award for creating the character known as Jar Jar Binks.

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  13. and maybe next year... by YodaToo · · Score: 4, Funny
    William Shatner will get a life time achivement award for "acting."

    Although I will say they have finally found a good character for his over-acting on Boston Legal.

    1. Re:and maybe next year... by sgant · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Yeah, actually I think he fits in well on "Boston Legal"...even though it's "LA Law" meet's "The Practice" meet's "Ally McBeal" (which is no shocker since they were all David E. Kelly productions (Kelly took over "LA Law" at the end btw)).

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    2. Re:and maybe next year... by NMEismyNME · · Score: 1

      and how could we forget his services to the music industry?

      picture yourself... on a boat... on a river...

    3. Re:and maybe next year... by kilgortrout · · Score: 1

      To me his most memorable role will always be The Big Giant Head on Third Rock From The Sun.

    4. Re:and maybe next year... by hookedup · · Score: 1

      now there's an acceptance speech i'd like to see..

    5. Re:and maybe next year... by Sunnan · · Score: 1

      You should give his newest album, Has been, a listen. It's really good, it just came out. Look for it on suprnova.

  14. Lifetime Achievement Award Requirements by modifried · · Score: 5, Informative
    "The Life Achievement Award honors an individual whose career in motion pictures or television has greatly contributed to the enrichment of American culture.

    The criteria stated that "the recipient should be one whose talent has in a fundamental way advanced the film art; whose accomplishment has been acknowledged by scholars, critics, professional peers and the general public; and whose work has stood the test of time." In 1993, AFI trustees extended the criteria to encompass individuals with active careers and work of significance yet to be accomplished. "

    (From http://www.afi.com/tvevents/laa/laasite/)

    1. Re:Lifetime Achievement Award Requirements by AndrewStephens · · Score: 2, Funny
      In 1993, AFI trustees extended the criteria to encompass individuals with active careers and work of significance yet to be accomplished.
      Sweet, my genius is yet to be recognised but it looks like I am elligable anyway.

      Where do I submit my nomination?

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    2. Re:Lifetime Achievement Award Requirements by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

      Also in the article, dumbass.

      I'm not scrolling back to see if you're also the person who posted the list of past winners, also in the article.

  15. Lucas was a visionary by Goodl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Despite the debacles that are the 'new' trilogy, no fan could watch the extras DVD that came with Star Wars and deny that it brought a lump to the throat to see how the film that defined space adventure for a generation was literally dragged kicking and screaming to the screen, all despite incredible odds, horrendous bad luck and dumbass studio execs through the sheer force of will and unshakable self belief that the story he was telling had to be told. Much as I really dont like how he conducts himself these days, no-one could say the man hasn't earned his place in history and in the hearts and minds of thirtysomethings globally. I can't hear the opening bars of the John Williams theme without getting chills down my spine and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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    1. Re:Lucas was a visionary by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Good god, do you really have some sort of emotional bond with the original trilogy to such an extent that it affects you physically just being reminded of it? That's not insightful, that's sad.

      This "emotional bond" you speak of is common among people who like a movie, or any art form for that sake, a lot. I feel sad for you if you've never found a good enough movie to experience it. I can listen to great pieces of music and it gives me chills, and I can watch movies that brings me to tears. A whole lot of us can. I hope you can feel some kind of emotions when watching movies, since it's great things to experience. :-)

      I can't imagine how boring going to the cinemas would be if you couldn't create an emotional bond to some of the characters, for example by humor, anger, love, sadness, or something else.

      Star Wars was a good bunch of movies. But they certainly aren't anyhing to spend more than a few seconds reminiscing about.

      What can I say... That's just your opinion, and if you have a hard time accepting others, feeling the need to look down on others, you're just narrow-minded.

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    2. Re:Lucas was a visionary by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      You need a psychologist or possibly a general physical examination if that seriously happens to you.

      No, I'd rather keep my emotions and stay away from a lobotomy, thank you very much...

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    3. Re:Lucas was a visionary by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Good god, do you really have some sort of emotional bond with the original trilogy to such an extent that it affects you physically just being reminded of it? That's not insightful, that's sad.


      Nothing has intrinsic value. Anything that has value has value because a human gave it value. That you only care about putting other people down is what is really sad.

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    4. Re:Lucas was a visionary by Snaller · · Score: 1

      I can't imagine how boring going to the cinemas would be if you couldn't create an emotional bond to some of the characters, for example by humor, anger, love, sadness, or something else.

      I can, though i wouldn't reccomend it.

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    5. Re:Lucas was a visionary by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 1

      I had a lobotomy once. Nobody told me about it, so I did a scan of my brain. I found a big letter "F" carved into the side of one of my frontal lobes.

      Freaky, huh?

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    6. Re:Lucas was a visionary by cyber1kenobi · · Score: 1

      I got goose bumps just readin' your mention of the opening theme. Anybody else associate the Fox thing at the begging of movies with every Fox movie they've seen since? :)

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    7. Re:Lucas was a visionary by Nodatadj · · Score: 1

      Yes.

    8. Re:Lucas was a visionary by Nodatadj · · Score: 1

      Does your lack of acceptance of someone else's opinion not make you equally narrow-minded?

      Can one pass judgement on someone being narrow-minded without becoming narrow-minded themselves?

      Hmmm, I need sleep

  16. The man deserves it by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having the dumb luck to stumble into the greatest movie franchise in history, Lucas has taken that little bit of luck and transformed it into his vision of a complete alternate universe. Had he been any other short-sighted director (Spielberg, I'm looking right at you and your last half of A.I.) the Star Wars trilogy would have simply ended with the dance of the Ewoks. However, Lucas was able to transform that complete story into a more complete story by going back and fixing and editing and putting in scenes that were originally not his vision in the first place. I hate to use the word visionary, but Lucas truly has a vision.

    The problem is that most people cannot understand the mind of a visionary and it isn't until long after they fade into irrelevance that they truly become appreciated. So too it is with Lucas, I believe. Many people are so worried about their childhood memories that they cry wolf every time Lucas decides to change a scene. Nevermind the fact that the whole Star Wars universe makes more sense when the updated (Director's Cut, if you will) scenes are added to the films.

    Lucas truly does deserve this award not only for what rich memories he brought to us when we were still kids, but also for the memories he gives kids of the future. When we look back in 20 years and reminisce about the Star Wars Nonology we will finally see why Greedo had to shoot first and why Jar Jar was crucial to the story of Anakin Skywalker.

    1. Re:The man deserves it by Dunkelzahn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think Revenge of the Sith is going to change alot of people's views of the Prequels and the Original Trilogy, in a good way. Judging from various leaks, spoilers, and Hyperspace tidbits, I think Revenge of the Sith will be the best of the prequels, and will be more than worthwhile.

      As for Jar-Jar - we're supposed to hate him. He's the dumb bitch who hands the Republic over to Palpatine on a silver platter, so...

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    2. Re:The man deserves it by op51n · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When we look back in 20 years and reminisce about the Star Wars Nonology we will finally see why Greedo had to shoot first and why Jar Jar was crucial to the story of Anakin Skywalker.

      I totally disagree. I have tried not to care about the changes he continues to make, as I have copies of the original release that will keep me happy, but I just can't fathom his decisions. Well... No, that's not quite true.

      I took a look at the comparison of the three releases, and the apparently dodgy censorship (the red flashes in the prison scene) and Greedo's shooting first, only appear to be ways of making the film more kid friendly. As of course Jar Jar and the awful slapstick he added in the Mos Eisley approach and other inserts also go to show.
      I just can't understand why he is doing this. It removes about thirteen layers from Han's character, making him fairly uninteresting for a start.

      It's not that I'm worried about my childhood memories. Like I say, I have the originals, my memories are intact. The problem is, now anyone who hasn't seen the originals will see the new DVD release, and it's not the same movie. I can fully appreciate a director's wish to go back and fix special effects, and even insert some new scenes to expand the scale - like with Mos Eisley. But I'd do it seriously. Adding laughs into those bits is lame and wrong pacewise.

      Basically, he's taken his movies, and turned them into a cleaner, more child-friendly franchise. I almost wouldn't be surprised if he does release the unaltered remastered editions to get the rest of the available cash, but that depends on if he's willing to allow such violence to be seen! I've lost pretty much all my respect for the guy, aside from, as someone mentioned, what he did for sound and effects in the industry.

    3. Re:The man deserves it by bob+beta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nevermind the fact that the whole Star Wars universe makes more sense when the updated (Director's Cut, if you will) scenes are added to the films.

      You see, there's the problem. Great stories, and good movies, don't have to 'make sense' in that way. There's a trick in drama called the 'aesthetic distance' where the audience is supposed to 'buy into' the fact that the performance is an approximation, and expand the spectacle themselves, internally in their own mind.

      Loose ends, paradoxes, etc. are supposed to be overwhelmed and become irrelevant because the dramatic effect smooths it all over.

      Instead, in Lucas, and in filmmakers like him (sadly a dominant force these days in filmmaking) everything has to be 'real' or as 'real-seeming' as can be made possible.

      It's like the difference between a fabulous Doctor Who episode, with cheese props but a wonderfully crafted story and brilliant acting, and the massively engineered psuedo-reality of the modern flicks. One works well within limits and succeeds in going beyond said limits. The other is just 'as good as it could be in the era it was produced' and people ten years later will obsess over the then-obsolete rough edges.

      For a technician like Lucas, the second production makes him a ton of money. It also sells a lot more home theatre hardware and drives a need to continually upgrade the playback hardware in the theatres. I guess that stuff is important to some people.

    4. Re:The man deserves it by WaterBreath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've got to wholeheartedly agree with the general sense of this article, that Lucas does deserve this award. I think people are overlooking some things when they consider this.

      First of all, Lucas has made more than 5 movies. Second, Lucas has made more than 5 blockbuster movies. (He had to be doing something right.) Third, not only has he made blockbuster movies, but he's made meaningful movies, such as American Grafitti and THX-1138.

      Regarding people's newfound hate of Lucas for his remastering/editing of the Star Wars Trilogy... I'll admit that I'm young enough that I saw the first three movies on VHS when I was very young. When the remastered versions came out I didn't remember the originals very well. It was like seeing them for the first time. And from that viewpoint I can tell you that the remakes are still good movies. I also think the prequels are good. As good as the originals. The problem is that the overall quality of movies in general has improved so much. There are many movies that flop today, but would have been blockbusters in the 1970s. The prequels are just not as far above the average today as the originals were when they came out.

      Lucas essentially created the film epic. It may have been tried before, but Lucas was the first to do it successfully in both the eyes of his peers and the eyes of the public. And I'll go so far as to say that he has had no rival. The Matrix started out great, but most of the people that went to the third one did it only out of half-hearted hope and a desire for some sort of closure. The LOTR trilogy is awesome, but it's an adaptation, not an original work like Star Wars. (And don't talk about theft of concepts, because Tolkein was just as "bad", stealing from all sorts of mythologies.)

      Lucas deserves this award, if solely for what he did with the original Star Wars movies. Even if you can't get over his recent changes, that doesn't changes how he affected the movie industry.

    5. Re:The man deserves it by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, don't give Lucas a free pass on this one. Keep the pressure on.

      The fact remains that it is perfectly possible to create a character that everyone is supposed to hate (say, Governor Tarkin, Darth Vader, Boba Fett, Jabba the Hutt, The Emperor himself, and of course all the lesser Empire underlings who were killed along the way) but Jar Jar was simply stupid, and Lucasfilms' mastery of digital effects didn't extend to making him a believable alien. Maybe they could now, renderfarms are bigger nowadays, but he just looked like a cartoon character stuck in the middle of an otherwise spectacular collection of special effects. I'm sorry, but I look at Jar Jar as a transparent effort to create more action-figure sales rather than a serious effort to develop a character that would advance the plot of the movie. You're supposed to hate a bad character for what he does. I hate Jar Jar because of what he is. If Lucas had had a clue as to how many die-hard Star Wars fans (like me) he would alienate with that bit of cinematic crap known as Jar Jar he might have rethought the whole thing. And that includes Jar Jar's entire clan: "Shield be going up!" and all that. Viewers were legitimately disappointed in Lucas for that.

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    6. Re:The man deserves it by Curate · · Score: 1

      The Star Wars Nonology? As much as I would love to see more movies, Lucas has stated definitively that there will be only 6.

    7. Re:The man deserves it by Dirtside · · Score: 1
      I hate to use the word visionary, but Lucas truly has a vision.
      Yes, but people high on LSD also have "visions." Actually, acid explains many of the changes in the DVD edition...
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    8. Re:The man deserves it by eMartin · · Score: 1

      "I think Revenge of the Sith will be the best of the prequels, and will be more than worthwhile."

      Now, if that's not glowing praise for a film, I don't know what is.

    9. Re:The man deserves it by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      I almost wouldn't be surprised if he does release the unaltered remastered editions to get the rest of the available cash

      He's been quoted as saying something to the effect of, (massively paraphrased) "I don't like those movies, the special edition versions are the ones I wanted. If you want the originals I'm sure you can dig them up on VHS somewhere, but it won't be coming from me."

    10. Re:The man deserves it by haggar · · Score: 1

      I really like A.I. - I think it has a very special atmosphere, and the more I watch it the more it mesmerises me. Interestingly enough, even my wife liked it more the second time, and said "hmm.. yeah, there is something in it". For me, A.I. is a very powerful artistic event. It leaves me half-sad, but totally immersed.

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    11. Re:The man deserves it by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "If Lucas had had a clue as to how many die-hard Star Wars fans (like me) he would alienate with that bit of cinematic crap known as Jar Jar he might have rethought the whole thing."

      yes, becasue hundreds of millions dollars is a horrible thing to get when you've pissed off someone who is more obsessed with the films then the creator of said films.

      Jar-Jar os a pawn of the Empire, nothing more. Clearly Palpatine set things in motion so that Jar-Jar would end up in the position Palpatine needed him to be.

      My respect for ther Jar-Jar character would have gone up tremendiously if he had intentionally released the globes on the advancing army.
      That would be a great reedit. To bad Lucas doesn't re-edit his films..rimshot.

      Beside all Jar-Jar wants is a freakin bowl of Trix. . .

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    12. Re:The man deserves it by ElectricPoppy · · Score: 1

      I liked it too. I don't generally like Spielberg as a director, but I did like that movie. Though, I wish Kubrick had been able to do it - it would have been really awesome in that case...

    13. Re:The man deserves it by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Look, I don't really like Jar-Jar either, but there's a little more going on in the Phantom Menace than the introduction of Anakin Skywalker.

      First and foremost, the story in the Phantom Menace is about Naboo, the Queen, and some cultural changes that need to take place for them to keep their independence. Sure, we watch the movie and know that it's only a small episode in the grand scheme of things, and that what's really important in this movie is the introduction of Darth Vader, the beginning of his relationship with Obi-Wan, and the return of the Sith to the Republic.

      Hate Jar-Jar all you want, but hate the game, not the player. Jar-Jar's purpose in the flick was to bring the Naboo and the Gungans together to beat a mutual enemy, and the cultural changes that happen on Naboo as a result are fundamental and important.

      I actually like the Phantom Menace, but in order to watch it I have to hypnotize myself into thinking I'm 8 years old. But other than that, I find it's a decent flick. But a "flick" is exactly what it is. How good or bad either of the first two episodes are will be determined by the third episode.

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  17. OK by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1, Funny

    If he won't make a comment, I will.

    WHY!?!

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    1. Re:OK by YowzaTheYuzzum · · Score: 1

      Oh, I don't know, maybe because he CREATED FRIGGIN' STAR WARS!

      I don't mean to sound like a troll, but people, come on! Whether or not you like what he's done with Star Wars recently, you can't deny that he created one of the greatest series of movies of all time. If it wasn't, we wouldn't constantly have people whining about every tiny change Lucas makes to his movies, would we?

  18. Yeah but... by mstefanus · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I will make no other comment

    No comment is also a comment...

  19. past winners by Pompatus · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to MSN Encarta (hey, it was the first one I found on a google search) these are the past winners of the AFI Lifetime achievement award.

    1973 John Ford
    1974 James Cagney
    1975 Orson Welles
    1976 William Wyler
    1977 Bette Davis
    1978 Henry Fonda
    1979 Alfred Hitchcock
    1980 James Stewart
    1981 Fred Astaire
    1982 Frank Capra
    1983 John Huston
    1984 Lillian Gish
    1985 Gene Kelly
    1986 Billy Wilder
    1987 Barbara Stanwyck
    1988 Jack Lemmon
    1989 Gregory Peck
    1990 Sir David Lean
    1991 Kirk Douglas
    1992 Sidney Poitier
    1993 Elizabeth Taylor
    1994 Jack Nicholson
    1995 Steven Spielberg
    1996 Clint Eastwood
    1997 Martin Scorsese
    1998 Robert Wise
    1999 Dustin Hoffman
    2000 Harrison Ford
    2001 Barbra Streisand
    2002 Tom Hanks
    2003 Robert De Niro
    2004 Meryl Streep

    There are some pretty serious names on that list. My point is, why now? The nostalgia for the first trilogy of films is good and all, but really, they were only 3 movies.

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    1. Re:past winners by TheKidWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Stanley Kubrick should be on that list

    2. Re:past winners by AndrewStephens · · Score: 1

      You could have saved yourself a couple of minutes by just reading the linked article which included that exact information.

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    3. Re:past winners by Pompatus · · Score: 2, Funny

      You could have saved yourself a couple of minutes by just reading the linked article which included that exact information.

      Dude, this is slashdot. Where have you been?

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    4. Re:past winners by nwbvt · · Score: 1
      "The nostalgia for the first trilogy of films is good and all, but really, they were only 3 movies."

      And keep in mind, he didn't even direct the only one of them that is a halfway decent movie on its own.

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    5. Re:past winners by fallen1 · · Score: 5, Funny
      2000 Harrison Ford

      YES! At least Han _won_ first and Lucas can't change it. ;-)

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    6. Re:past winners by (SM)+Spacemonkey · · Score: 1

      I am not angry because he fucked with the trilogy. I am pissed because he just doesn't belong on that list.

    7. Re:past winners by Mike+Farooki · · Score: 1

      I skimmed the list of previous winners too fast and thought I saw:

      1985 Gene Wilder

    8. Re:past winners by corsec67 · · Score: 1

      We just have to wait 30 years, and then Lucas will go back and "Correct" the award listing.

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    9. Re: past winners by gidds · · Score: 1
      Because Jews run Hollywood. I don't mean that as a troll,

      I'm sorry, but how could that possibly be anything other than a troll?

      If you'd said that there was a good number of Jewish actors and other film professionals in Hollywood, then that would be a reasoned argument. A slightly inflammatory one, and one whose truth I've no information on, but reasonable nonetheless. But a ludicrous, sweeping overgeneralisation and naive oversimplification like that? Do me a favour.

      A more rational point might be that if a good proportion of actors and directors were Jewish, then you might expect a similar proportion of the very talented ones, and hence of the award-winning ones. And a similar argument might apply to the low proportion of African-Americans (or whatever the current politically-correct term is -- I'm from a different continent, so I don't know). But since I've no real (i.e. not just anecdoral) information about the ethnic and/or religious demographic of film professionals -- and neither, I suspect, have you -- then this is all academic.

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    10. Re:past winners by DrVxD · · Score: 1

      > he fucked with the trilogy

      In his defence, he did actually make the trilogy in the first place.

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    11. Re:past winners by DrVxD · · Score: 1

      > Stanley Kubrick should be on that list

      Sadly, that's been pretty much crapped on by the fact that the last movie to bear his name was truly abysmal (and yes, I'm well aware of the fact that wasn't his fault but sadly that will be forgotten)

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    12. Re:past winners by thesandtiger · · Score: 1
      There are some pretty serious names on that list. My point is, why now? The nostalgia for the first trilogy of films is good and all, but really, they were only 3 movies.

      It isn't just the films, it's everything else. ILM, Skywalker Sound - hell, even Pixar was at one point a Lucas deal. Forget Star Wars - he's done a lot to the industry as a tool-maker. Oh, and a merchandiser :p

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    13. Re:past winners by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 1

      Are you referring to A.I. or Eyes Wide Shut? In either case, why? I've only seen the latter, and while it wasn't... umm... eye-opening, it wasn't the worst movie I've ever seen either. (Mediocre, yeah.)

    14. Re:past winners by DrVxD · · Score: 1

      Eyes Wide Shut. A truly terrible movie. It's sole redeeming feature was Nicole Kidman taking her clothes off. I expect far better things from anything carrying Kubrick's name, and it's sad to say that this is the last movie that he is credited as having directed.

      By contrast, I rather enjoyed A.I. - more surprising since Spielberg never really "did it" for me as a director.

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    15. Re:past winners by thelenm · · Score: 1

      If you look closely it actually appears that Han and Greedy (err, Lucas) win the award almost simultaneously.

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  20. Well deserved by AndrewStephens · · Score: 5, Informative

    Much as we all enjoy reading about how Lucus raped your childhood, his movies are probably only a small part of why he is getting this award. The man is directly responsible for much of the technology behind modern film making - nonlinear editing, sound post-production and reproduction, digital effects, virtual sets, virtual extras, and now he is a leading force in digital film. Not to mention the great strides he made in marketing and licensing :)
    All these techniques were developed for his projects, and there is not a film made today that does not use them in some way.
    He is certainly more deserving than 2001's winner - Barbra Streisand!

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    1. Re:Well deserved by bob+beta · · Score: 1

      Okay, so we've established that Lucas has 'raised the bar' and made it much, much, more expensive for someone with a great dramatic idea to get his/her vision onto the screen and before the public. Kinda the equivalent of what's happened in popular music, where you've gotta make a twelve million dollar 'video' before your music can become a hit.

      How is that a good thing, again?

    2. Re:Well deserved by (SM)+Spacemonkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is a significant part of the film community that doesn't see a causal link between technical and artist achievement. Many actually see the relative surge in the use of SFX as determintal to cinema. After all blue screen, CGI and digital worlds are just tools. Tools that can be used to create a masterpiece (Citizen Kane has a similar amount of effect shots as Star Wars, yet you wouldn't know) or create a Michael Bay film. I would also like you to consider a timeline of special effects, in many cases Lucas wasn't the conceiver, but the populariser.

      I respect and appreciate the technical strides that Lucas took. Hell, I am enough of a geek to be here. However the AFI doesn't give technical awards, but artist awards. Cultural impact aside, I firmly believe Lucas isn't worthy of such an award.

      Just an opinion of a film nerd. I am the guy who writes essays on the link between R2D2 and characters in Akira Kurosawa films. Disagree if you must, and many will.

    3. Re:Well deserved by eraserewind · · Score: 1

      I disagree. This is not an award for technologists. It's for film makers and actors. Take a look at the list of previous winners.

    4. Re:Well deserved by westlake · · Score: 1
      Okay, so we've established that Lucas has 'raised the bar' and made it much, much, more expensive for someone with a great dramatic idea to get his/her vision onto the screen and before the public.

      Tell me how you get The Lord of the Rings on film without using the techniques pioneered by Lucas.

    5. Re:Well deserved by bob+beta · · Score: 1

      I rendered The Lord of the Rings from actual source code, in my head, by reading the original novels in a hammock in the back yard in the summer of 1974.

      No animated, CGI, or acted out product I've seen or heard of can do justice for that.

      As to why I would want it on film? Hmmm. . . The printed book would be less easy to read on microfiche. . .

  21. Good by Riktov · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now he can quit.

    1. Re:Good by Ingolfke · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wrong, now he has confirmation he needs to pursue episodes VII, VIII, and IX. No, as a lifetime achievement award winner, no one will question his decision to rework the triology so that Han Solo's name is actually Beau, and in episode VII we learn that Beau and Luke are cousins, and Han's long lost father returns, Uncle Jessie. The empire is defeated, but pockets of control remain throughout the galaxy, especially on the planet of Hazzard. Here Beau and Luke, the newly named Dukes of Hazzard, are sent to eliminate the remaining emperial forces. Lando, will of course have taken the Millenium Falcon, but that's ok because Beau will reveal that he has been working on a supped up ship, named after one of the great hearo's of the rebel resistance, the General Lee. Finally the Star Wars vision, the Lucas vision, can be realized.

      Oh... and I've heard in episode VIII Beau and Luke will run into a group of wrongly accused ex-rebel fighters, named Murdoch, Hannibal, Face, and B.A. Barachus. I pity the fool who misses this movie!

      And finally, we might see N-Sync do a cameo in the movie (that would be awesome d00d).

    2. Re:Good by Zathras26 · · Score: 1

      [Returning from commercial break to see Imperial Star Destroyer chasing Millennium Falcon with large number painted on the side] Right, now where were we? Well, when we left off, Beau and Luke had got theirself into a whole heap o' trouble!

    3. Re:Good by dscotton · · Score: 1

      The sad thing is that this plot actually sounds *better* than Episodes 1 & 2.

  22. Re: comments by zecg · · Score: 1

    I will make no other comment.

    Now, isn't that a pretty clear comment?

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  23. Re:It's a tremendous achievement by koh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay, okay, so why isn't it called the "shitload of money achievement" ? Would be more to the point, don't you think ? :)

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  24. Right next to Jake Lloyd's... by GeekyMike · · Score: 1

    ...for besting luke skywalker in the whiny punk category

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  25. Yeah, Lucas is a hack... by Perdition · · Score: 3, Insightful

    but what have YOU done?

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    1. Re:Yeah, Lucas is a hack... by bob+beta · · Score: 1

      I'll confess that none of my artwork creations have made it onto a Burger King soda cup.

    2. Re:Yeah, Lucas is a hack... by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why not? All you need is a pen. Don't let the condensation hold you back!

    3. Re:Yeah, Lucas is a hack... by Dirtside · · Score: 1

      Are you implying that because we haven't directed billions of dollars' worth of movies, we don't have a right to criticize the AFI's choice? Or Lucas's actions or motivations?

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    4. Re:Yeah, Lucas is a hack... by Perdition · · Score: 1

      Kinda. It's not an Actions and Motivations award, it's a Film-Making award. He's made films, several in fact. Did it most of his life. Lifetime acheivement of making films. Here's an award. Besides, when I apparently called people's creativity into question, I didn't mean YOU, I meant THEM. YOU, however, are exempt from the comment. Don't ever confuse THEM with YOU.

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    5. Re:Yeah, Lucas is a hack... by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
      > but what have YOU done?

      Throughout my entire life, I was able not to create Jar Jar Binks.

    6. Re:Yeah, Lucas is a hack... by DrVxD · · Score: 1

      > Don't ever confuse THEM with YOU

      Unless, of course, YOU are one of THEM. In which case, feel free to confuse yourself. That will give the rest of US time to finalise our plots to remove THEM from the positions of power which they hold.

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    7. Re:Yeah, Lucas is a hack... by Perdition · · Score: 1

      Heyyyy...

      Is that YOU?

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    8. Re:Yeah, Lucas is a hack... by DrVxD · · Score: 1

      No, it's me. YOU are YOU. I don't know if YOU are one of THEM, but YOU is definatly YOU.

      Or not. Depending on YOUR point of view. Or something...

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    9. Re:Yeah, Lucas is a hack... by bob+beta · · Score: 1

      Ah, you need a sharpie. An ordinary pen won't cut it.

  26. It's all about special effects... by pedantic+bore · · Score: 4, Informative
    If you RTFA, you'll see that what is being recognized is primarily Lucas's pioneering work in special effects: ILM, Pixar, Lucas Sound, etc. The man might not know how to direct his way out of a paper bag, and his ear for dialog went deaf about twenty years ago, but he has created some wonderful tools for other directors/writers to use. He deserves something for that.

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  27. Hmm... by kjones692 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I sense a disturbance in the force... as if millions of voices cried out in terror, and then were suddenly silenced.

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    1. Re:Hmm... by acidrain69 · · Score: 1

      Not silenced. Dismissed as a handful of naysayers and die hards. People of no consequence. To Lucas, extras in the background.

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    2. Re:Hmm... by glenebob · · Score: 1
      "and then were suddenly silenced..."

      ...as the story rolled off the bottom of the slashdot front page.

  28. American Graffiti by httpamphibio.us · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm constantly surprised that George Lucas was lucid and creative enough to create American Graffiti... it's a film that has not only withstood the test of time, quite an achievement for what could have easily been just a nostalgia piece, but has the perfect balance of comedy and drama, and manages to develop many different storylines (most multi-threaded films tend to skimp on any sort of real character and story development and the crossover between storylines is often very poor).

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  29. Maybe "lifetime" is the wrong word... by Daniel+Ellard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I liked THX1138 a lot. American Graffiti was great. Star Wars 4-6: when they came out, people were amazed. The Indiana Jones still looks good (well, except for maybe the last one).

    That's quite a successful run. Maybe not a "lifetime" of achievement, but a bunch of great and/or insanely popular movies in a short period of time.

    It's unfortunate that the recent stuff sucks, but he's still got a pretty amazing record.

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  30. Who needs a hug? by Lisandro · · Score: 4, Funny

    "George Lucas is receiving the AFI Lifetime Achievement award. I will make no other comment."

    Oh, c'mon, don't like that. You'll get yours too, eventually!

  31. Give credit where credit is due! by Archimonde · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    1)He created original trilogy. Those movies are one of the best movies ever.

    2)He destroyed it with Special Edition.

    3)Then he created three crappy prequels*. (worst movies ever).

    And now the conclusion:

    Thats helluva lot of determinination and hard work. He deserves it.

    * I never saw episode iii, but judging from i and ii, I'm almost certanly right ;)

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  32. Yes it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Getting millions of people to pay bucks to watch Jar-Jar _IS_ an achievement.

  33. Short sighted posters by damieng · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As always a story brings out the most short sighted posters, upset over the treatment of Star Wars.

    Lets not forget that the award is not for Star Wars but for his achievements to the industry.

    Lucas helped found ILM which helped get special effects to the what they are today. Skywalker Sound has contributed to hundreds of films. THX certification got cinemas, film and DVD production quality up.

    And personally, I loved Howard the Duck...

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    1. Re:Short sighted posters by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      True. The man completely fucked StarWars, but still has a number of remarkable films on his resume. I personally *love* the Indiana Jones series.

    2. Re:Short sighted posters by MtViewGuy · · Score: 1

      Surprisingly, I actually liked Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade as the best of the Indiana Jones movies. I think it's because of the superb interaction between Harrison Ford and Sean Connery.

  34. He's done more for the business of movies by hargettp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yet perhaps not so much for the art of movies. Alas, because I enjoyed the original trilogy so much in my childhood.

    He created one of the greatest (and first, I believe) movie merchandizing businesses in history. I would question whether there would be so many "Power Ranger Toys" or "Barney" tie-ins if the Star Wars franchise hadn't done been so successful.

    He has continually expanded the frontier of digital effects in film-making, and although in recent years his studio's work has been eclipsed by other films (e.g., The Matrix, Shrek, Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, etc.), I do believe that nevertheless he deserves credit for the push towards effective uses of digital imagery in cinema.

    He has enhanced the audio experience in most large cinemas in operation today (at least in the US). I can't say how many times I've seen "THX-1138" digital surround sound by Dolby--that sound system was developed in conjunction with Lucas' team.

    He was first to expand the idea of film sequels (and series) in modern cinema. Would we have had Die Hard, Die Harder were it not for Lucas? Would we have The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix Revolutions were it not for Lucas? What about Star Trek the Movie I-IV? Back to the Future I-II? If the original trilogy had not been so popular with audiences, would subsequent sequels & series concepts have been developed other major film studios?

    There may be other such achievements as well, but with the above I think there is a strong case that Lucas reshaped how the business of movies does it's business.

    1. Re:He's done more for the business of movies by rdean400 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      although in recent years his studio's work has been eclipsed by other films (e.g., The Matrix, Shrek, Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow).

      I would dispute that.

      Pixar really plays to different market segments than Lucas's films, so they haven't really eclipsed Lucas's work. (And to be fair, Pixar itself started out as a division of Lucasfilm, Ltd. It was purchased by Steve Jobs for $10mil in 1986 and rechristened "Pixar".). No Pixar = no Toy Story, and no Toy Story means we probably wouldn't have seen a good wholly computer animated picture yet.

      ILM was the special effects studio for Sky Captain and the World fo Tomorrow, so Lucas's company was part of that one.

      That leaves the Matrix. Although bullet time generated more buzz than massively digitally created armies of Phantom Menace, it's about equivalent on the revolutionary scale. Matrix got perceived as better by having a more well-executed story.

      The fact is engraved into Pixar's HQ: "No amount of technology can turn a bad story into a good one" (Although TPM and AOTC were good stories, poorly told).

    2. Re:He's done more for the business of movies by Snaller · · Score: 1

      Would we have The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, The Matrix Revolutions were it not for Lucas?

      He has a lot to answer for!

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    3. Re:He's done more for the business of movies by donglekey · · Score: 1

      ILM was the special effects studio for Sky Captain and the World fo Tomorrow, so Lucas's company was part of that one.

      No they were not. They may have done a handful of shots but half the movie was completed by a studio set up for this movie called WOT and half were completed by many other studios included Ring of Fire, Orphanage, Stan Winston Digital, Pacific Title, and probably others.

    4. Re:He's done more for the business of movies by rdean400 · · Score: 1

      True, but the supervisor of the whole thing is Scott Anderson, an ILM alumnus.

  35. We'll Ignore... by a_peckover · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the parts where he revolutionised film making (THX, Skywalker Sound, ILM, non-linear editing) and where he became the most successful independent film-maker of all time.

    1. Re:We'll Ignore... by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

      Uh, are you poking fun at the article, or did you not read it? Each of those was mentioned.

    2. Re:We'll Ignore... by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 1

      No. He's poking fun at slashdoters: "Lucas has never done anything worthwhile, have you seen the prequels?"

    3. Re:We'll Ignore... by a_peckover · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

  36. I absolutely agree. by MtViewGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I mean think about it:

    1. Industrial Light and Magic essentially pioneered the modern age of cinematic special effects. They took "traditional" special effects to new levels of excellence and helped pioneer CGI effects for movies.

    2. Pixar pioneered much of what computer animation can do, and under subsequent leadership of Steve Jobs the company has produced several blockbuster hit movies.

    3. Lucas Sound helped develop the THX certification for high quality movie presentation in the theaters, and it has extended that certification to DVD mastering, too. A THX-certified DVD tends to have high-quality picture and sound on average.

    1. Re:I absolutely agree. by Mordaximus · · Score: 1
      A THX-certified DVD tends to have high-quality picture and sound on average.

      Right. Snow White in Ultra-Hiss Mono got a THX certification. It's something that's more easily bought than earned these days. Likewise, non-THX certified equipment can and often does perform better than their certified counterparts.

      The best thing to come out of THX is that THX sound at the beginning of the movie ;)

    2. Re:I absolutely agree. by MtViewGuy · · Score: 1

      Actually, THX certification for DVD's is more than just better quality sound. It's also better quality picture during the mastering process, too. That's the reason why THX-certified DVD's tend to look quite good on average.

  37. Who Else Read: by leav · · Score: 1

    "George Lucas To Receive Liftime In Prison"

    :P

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  38. Re:It's a tremendous achievement by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1, Interesting

    In that case Bill Gates would have been winning it every year, hands down. But since Bill Gates' lifetime achievement can be summed up in one word: "Windows", the statue or whatever goes to Lucas instead.

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  39. I wonder by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 1
    the less happy he is with a film, the more happy everyone else is

    I wonder how much he dislikes American Graffity. I bet he totally hates it.

  40. I'm probably the only one in the world who thinks by SynapseLapse · · Score: 2, Informative

    But I think he should win for giving us the beloved Lucasarts company... :)

    Well, up until the screwed up, and then canceled Sam and Max 2 and Full Throttle.

  41. But, What's Up Doc? by Joseph_Daniel_Zukige · · Score: 1

    was a good movie.

  42. I will make no other comment by smchris · · Score: 1

    THX1138 was an excellent movie.

    The distributors spat on it at the time.

    Considering his subsequent work, I've always figured you want the definition of "embittered cynic" you look up George Lucas.

  43. Chills and shakes when I hear it. by tallbill · · Score: 1

    That kind of monumental and over-composed style of music also gives me shakes. I guess that the music is OK, but I am very sick of it.

  44. One Word... by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

    Boooooooooooo!

  45. I felt a great disturbance in the force... by TheOnlyJuztyn · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ... as if millions of _real_, skilled directors cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced...

  46. Great Award by octal666 · · Score: 1

    It's like telling him, until now, you've done everything worthy in your life, please, leave StarWars alone. Don't touch it anymore!

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  47. Its not so hard... by grasshoppah · · Score: 1

    ... to get a lifetime achievement award if your constantly allowed to go back, digitially edit, and resubmit your life's work for approval until you get it write (or wrong i guess).

  48. There is no try! by Farrside · · Score: 1

    Do, or do not!

  49. Re:I nominate my hamster by flynns · · Score: 1

    Hear, hear!!

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  50. Awful Films by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    I've just finished watching his lifetime achivement for the first time as an adult, and I can honestly say it sucks and blows arse. Sure, he deserves credit for the fantastic THX quality of the films, that sound and imagery really was top drawer. It's a pity the films themselves stank so badly. Let me qualify my main gripes with them.

    In Star Wars, Luke comes off as some petualant child who went to the sooky child school of acting. If was hard to get involved with his badly written character, and Han Solo come off as some sort of space hick. The only redeeming feature was a bra-less princess Laia.

    Whilst watching the truly awful Return of the Jedi, I noticed that the characters seem to say all their actions and speak in pure exposition e.g. I'm going to go *there* and do *that*. This film is worse than pantomime.

    Give George credit where credit is due, THX is great, the special effects are fab, but the acting, plot, and characters all stink.

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  51. Re:This is embarassing by inkswamp · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Give it up. I've tried modding some of the outright flamebaitery where posters call Lucas every filthy word in the book and every time I do it, I get meta-modded as "unfair." There is a massive amount of anti-Star Wars venom on Slashdot (hell, this post will likely get modded as "troll" at some point too.)

    Some folks around here have taken to hating Lucas with a sort of religious zeal and nothing you can say will change that. I grew up with Star Wars as a massive component of my life, and I think the new versions of the films kick the old versions' asses up and down the street a half-dozen times. But some people around here disagree and won't tolerate opposing points of view. Frankly, I think it's a little unhealthy to get so wrapped up in this stuff that you allow it to affect your emotions and judgment to that extent.

    HarveyBirddman, if you want to engage in more mature and meaningful discourse about the films, go to The Force.net and try out their fan forums. Much more respectful and knowledgeable and level-headed group there and it's not as Lucas-worshipping as you might at first assume (plenty of valid critiques of Lucas there without the emotional outpouring and the wailing about ruined childhoods.)

    Honestly, I don't know why Slashdot insists that this stuff should be posted here anymore. Clearly, the Slashdot crowd and the Star Wars fan do not overlap much nowadays.

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  52. Re:I nominate my hamster by tuxedobob · · Score: 1

    Second. Scruffy's always wanted to see a hamster recognized by the AFI.

  53. Not considering his role in the second movie by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Look, I hated Jar Jar's pratfals in the first movie as much as the next guy.

    But in the second movie the stupidity had a point - he was an easy to use pawn, one of the weak minded people that is so easily manipulted by force powers. I was actually quite happy with how Jar Jar was used in teh second, even though I thought they went way overboard with the physical comedy in the first.

    The whole *point* is that he's stupid, not that he's hated. He'll end up being hated (or pitied) because he's so stupid.

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  54. well deserved by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Many of the editing techniques, and special effects done today are possible because of his drive and commentment.

    you can say what you want about ther Star Wars series, but they did influence the industry. The way movie companies viewed sci-fi films after Star-Wars was a lot more seriously then before Star-Wars.
    WOuld Alien as been as good if George hadn't proved there is a market for 'grity' sci-fi?

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  55. Big deal by dswensen · · Score: 1

    I hate to use the word visionary, but Lucas truly has a vision.

    So do people with malaria.

  56. Lifetime achievement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I think this achievement is more about its wallet than about its talent. The juges are Unitedstaters.

  57. I just wish.. by msimm · · Score: 1

    He'd stop making movies on par with the Cabage Patch Kids. I'm not worried about my childhood memories, I'd really like to see him make a movie with the imagination of an adult. These dumbed down Star Wars movies have been thinner then a childrens cartoon and all the while the real world has continued grow more complex. Give me a Star Wars with characters with flaws. Something to sink my teeth into.

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  58. Re:I nominate my hamster by geekoid · · Score: 1

    ah, so Lea's line was suppsoed to be:

    "You look like Scruffy, the nerf herder."

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  59. you would think by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    that a place that alledgedly devoted to 'News for Nerds' would appriacte this a lot more.

    1) Made Sci-fi movies Mainstream
    2) Set ground work for technology to make better sci-fi movies
    3) Created the most Kick ass Sci-fi movie of it's time.
    4) Independant film maker

    What's with the haters?
    Quite frankly this 'it's big and worth a lot of money so lets hate it attitude has gotten old.' Except for Google. Speak bad about Google and you'll be moderated down to hell.

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    1. Re:you would think by DrVxD · · Score: 2, Funny


      1) Made Sci-fi movies Mainstream
      2) Set ground work for technology to make better sci-fi movies
      3) Created the most Kick ass Sci-fi movie of it's time.
      4) Independant film maker


      You forgot:

      5) PROFIT!

      (disclaimer: I've loved Lucas' work since THX1138, and think he deserves the award. But this is Slashdot, and the rules clearly state that All Lists Must End With Profit)

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  60. destroy a movie? by mpupu · · Score: 1

    I can't believe how two or three little changes can "destroy" a movie. I enjoyed the original saga, and even if Greedo shoots a split-second earlier, I think the restoration and improvements that have been made to image quality (e.g. lightsabres) are worth it.

  61. I concur by ae-valkyre · · Score: 1

    I think George Lucas deserves an award!

    Some kind of one way ticket to hell seems like a most deserving reward for his... efforts.

  62. Huh? by X3J11 · · Score: 1

    Lifetime Achievement Award for Sodomizing Our Memories? Star Wars *used* to be good.

  63. Re:This is embarassing by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 1

    They should look at the new version of THX-1138. If there ever was an argument FOR making updates to older films, that one is it. Very nice "upgrades" in that one. Just enough to give a better sense of scale in a few scenes.

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  64. quote by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 2, Funny

    What can I say... That's just your opinion, and if you have a hard time accepting others, feeling the need to look down on others, you're just narrow-minded.

    That is by far the coolest quote I've found on slashdot. I think it really speaks for itself. Someday, I dream of cobbling together such an utterance into such a form.

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  65. Come out of the tinfoil hats... by Machitis · · Score: 1

    If you take a moment to remove the tinfoil hat and take a look at what Lucas has done... I'd say he deserves it. His methods as far as hollywood politics alone revolutionized the industry of movie-making.

    Beside that, he's led development of some of the best industry departments and standards out there. He was largely responsible for Pixar!

    So before you're too quick to bash him for the obvious blunders he's had, at least have the fairness to recognize what he has really done well.

  66. Re:Tarantino? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I don't know. I really liked his segment in The Four Rooms.

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  67. WORST ACHIEVEMENT EVER by csoto · · Score: 1

    "No! No, freakin' kids. I do not need this, I've got a masters degree in folklore mythology."

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  68. Although ... by Vinnie_333 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...some of the events in his life will be altered so they more closely match the life George originally intended.

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  69. Re:Fuck you, negative mods by inkswamp · · Score: 1
    LOL! Damn, that's great! You have a great attitude. I just wish the people around here with moderation points would actually look at the context of what you wrote before modding it as flamebait.

    Anyway, we're right behind you. Lead us onward, HarveyBirdman, into the depths of Incorrectly Modded Flamebait Hell! BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

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  70. Don't be a burro. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    Years and years of producing films, not movies, and you want him judged for the last one that by all accounts was an honourable failure?

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    1. Re:Don't be a burro. by DrVxD · · Score: 1

      No, that's entirely my point - that I don't want him to be judged on Eyes Wide Sh*t - far from it. BUT I live in the real world, and sadly a lot of people WILL judge him on EWS - it's very, very wrong, but that's the way it is.

      There's an old adage - "When you get something right, nobody remembers. When you get something wrong, nobody forgets.". In this case, somebody else got it wrong, but it's Kubrick's name that's on there.

      I consider Kubrick to be one of the greatest film-makers who has ever lived - we're talking about the man that gave us what I consider to be the finest film ever made (2001 : A Space Odyssey). I've seen it a zillion times (I'm saw it in the cinema the week it was released), and there are moments where it still takes my breath away. Not to mention Dr Strangelove, Full Metal Jacket, Clockwork Orange, The Shining, etc. etc.

      No, the last thing I want is for him to be judged on EWS - I'd much rather it was forgotten completely and we remember his many triumphs.

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  71. What an asinine question. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    You do what you can in your context and circumstances.

    There are people for which waking up every morning and managing to lead an almost normal life is an achievment that easily overshadows anything Lucas has ever done, but that naturally is not highligted since achieving this does not touch as many people as a film maker.

    So stop the patronizing, we may be doing more things that you are obviously denying people credit for.

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    1. Re:What an asinine question. by Perdition · · Score: 1

      So, let me get this straight... We should ALL get AFI lifetime achievement awards for leading almost normal lives? It sort of takes the shine off the apple, so you can have mine. George Lucas gets awarded for his film work, and everyone crawls out to say what a hack he is. I ask what films they have made to displace his achievement, and you say I have devalued humanity in general. One word: decaf.

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  72. Re:Sad sad day by fleener · · Score: 1

    I pity the moderator who worships George Lucas. Geez, you act like I killed your father or something.