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DIY Polling Shows Bush, Kerry Will Win

cheese_wallet writes "7-eleven has a poll conducted by the choice of cup their customers pick for their coffee. They can pick a Kerry cup, a Bush cup, or a Third Party/No Opinion cup (interesting combo). Although it is considered completely unscientific, it polls millions of people and gets past the cell phone barrier. You can see the current stats." And reader Noryungi writes "This is very tongue-in-cheek... Harry's Bar, in Paris (France) has been conducting straw polls for the past 80 years, and has been wrong only once, in 1976. So... who is the winner, according to Harry's Bar poll, for the 2004 US election? Kerry. And not by small numbers either, Kerry wins 56% to 44% in the latest Straw Vote, which is a larger margin than all the other US-based pollsters."

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  1. Slashdot Poll Rules by stinerman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't use these numbers to do anything important.

    Urban areas (where one would find more 7/11s) tend to go Democratic. Hence the inherent bias in the figures.

    1. Re:Slashdot Poll Rules by BandwidthHog · · Score: 2, Funny

      And since you seem incapable of detecting sarcasm, I'm going to assume you're one of my ex-girlfriends.

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  2. Kerry Wins in France by christopherfinke · · Score: 3, Funny

    Kerry's polling well in France? You don't say!

    1. Re:Kerry Wins in France by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 4, Funny

      At my bar in Texas Bush is the predicted winner.

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    2. Re:Kerry Wins in France by Sevn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More specifically, it shows that the kind of people that can afford travel, or with the desire to get out there and experience alternate world views first hand tend to be the kind of people that would vote for Kerry.

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    3. Re:Kerry Wins in France by straybullets · · Score: 2, Insightful

      the kind of person that would want to go to France and hear all the crap they are spouting over there

      Phew, thanks you so much, i knew all these talks about disappearing mail ballots, vanishing iraki explosives, escaping the militry service but still being presented as an Ubber War Leader and all and all were nothing but. crap

      Now i can safely crawl back to my home cinema room and forget about reality.

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  3. Meanwhile by Otter · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other crucial election news, busts of Bush and Kerry carved out of hummus became the focus of a controversy when an unknown individual ate part of Kerry's head. It's not known whether this action was politically motivated or if someone simply mistook Kerry for an hors d'oeuvre.

  4. Polls biased by SoCalChris · · Score: 4, Funny

    The 7-11 by me only had Bush cups a few days ago.

    Either they were trying to swing the poll, or they had sold out of the Kerry cups.

    I'm guessing it's the latter, since I live in a fairly liberal area, and all of the local stop signs have been modified to read:

    "STOP
    BUSH"

  5. high numbers by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According to the coffee-poll site, Kerry + Bush (48.89 + 51.11%) = 100%, but they have 3rd option. No one chose it? Maybe I'm just bitter about corporate sponsored polls, but 7-11's poll seems pretty dicey.

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  6. Extensive polling in my household by BandwidthHog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Every morning before work (if I'm not running too terribly late) I ask myself who I plan to vote for.

    So far Kerry's numbers look very good, while Dubya appears likely to be filing for unemployment soon.

    Sure, the sample size leaves something to be desired, but I feel my methods are *at least* as accurate as polling drunk expats in Paris.

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  7. Re:Point less. by Narkov · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and how is that any different to election day? Vote early, vote often I say :)

  8. Electoral college by moosesocks · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Let's assume that the straw poll only takes into account the fact that a 56 - 44 popular vote could still result in a win for Bush in the electoral college.

    The 7/11 poll is disturbingly evenly split. The difference is so small that voting irregularities could easily constitute the margin.

    Also you have to take into consideration the fact that even if this survey was done on a large enough and evenly dispersed population to be accurate and that everyone voted truthfully, NOT EVERYONE WILL VOTE. Does anyone know if Democrats are statistically more or less likely to actually go out and vote than Republicans.

    These three things alone will determine our election.

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    1. Re:Electoral college by BandwidthHog · · Score: 3, Funny

      Does anyone know if Democrats are statistically more or less likely to actually go out and vote than Republicans.

      All I know is that if Bush wins, I will be spending the next four years tracking down democratic voters who didn't vote and beating them savagely with a dead trout.

      Keep that in mind next Tuesday, punks.

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    2. Re:Electoral college by stinerman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Does anyone know if Democrats are statistically more or less likely to actually go out and vote than Republicans.

      I do know that there are, nationwide, more registered Democrats than Republicans (39% to 35%, IIRC). I also know that registered Democrats are more likely to cross party lines and vote for Republicans. For example, 11% of Democrats voted for Bush in 2000, while 8% of Republicans voted for Gore.

      Source

    3. Re:Electoral college by The+Briguy · · Score: 2, Informative


      Well there are two factors fighting against each other. Democrats are less likely to vote then republicans, but undecideds usually break 2-1 for the challenger.

      However everyone aknowledges that democratic turnout will be higher then usual this election. How much higher is up for debate. This is why polls are all over the place in terms of "likely voters" vs. "Registered Voters"

  9. Harmful by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Funny

    These kind of unscientific polls are often misinterpreted by the masses and can demoralize potential voters. This is clearly biased against the most deserving candidate.

    Nader ALL THE WAY baby! YEAAAHHH!

    Man... that's good pot.

  10. Unfortunately ... by BlueSteel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Unfortunately for Kerry, the children's Weekly Reader poll says otherwise.

    Since 1956, Weekly Reader students in grades 1-12 have correctly picked the president, making the Weekly Reader poll one of the most accurate predictors of presidential outcomes in history.

    ... I always knew I didn't like kids.

    1. Re:Unfortunately ... by flyingsquid · · Score: 3, Informative
      Check your current events:

      "A videotape made by a television crew with American troops when they opened bunkers at a sprawling Iraqi munitions complex south of Baghdad shows a huge supply of explosives still there nine days after the fall of Saddam Hussein, apparently including some sealed earlier by the International Atomic Energy Agency." -nytimes.com

      In other words, just what the Iraqis said. The explosives went missing after the 9th, after US troops arrived- the first US troops arrived at Al Qaqaa on the 3rd. The video- which shows boxes and barrels of high explosives in a sealed bunker- was taken on the 18th.

      Assuming (against all evidence) the expplosives really had gone missing earlier, it would be surprising if the Bush administration couldn't prove it: the reconnaissance should be good enough to pick up the 40 or so large trucks it would take to move a stash like that. It also ignores the fact that even if they had moved them, the Bush administration still should have secured those explosives wherever they ended up, and should not have stood by to let Iraqis loot weapons depots. The Bush administration's primary problem is that it simply denies reality and accountability. The sad thing is that so many Americans are perfectly happy with this situation.

  11. Not by a long shot... by felddy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    These numbers can't be correct by a long shot. I live near D.C. There is no way that Bush is leading 53.73% to 46.27%. An American Research Group poll conducted Sep-13 is showing:

    District of Columbia

    American Research Group (Sep-13)
    Kerry 78%
    Bush 11%
    Nader 6%

    7-11
    Kerry 46.27%
    Bush 53.73%
    Other 0%


    The lesson? Stick with what you do best 7-11. Selling hot 3-day-old rotating meat logs.
  12. Halloween Webcam shows Hulk, then Bush, then Kerry by xmas2003 · · Score: 2, Informative
    The halloween webcam allows you to vote by toggling the lights - current vote totals are:
    HULK: 9,684 BUSH: 9,472 KERRY: 8,937

    This is despite at least one "Kerry-Bot" that tried to stuff the ballot with hundreds of electronic votes (I guess it would be hard to stuff the 7/11 cup vote!) - needless to say, those votes were discounted and that IP address was banned.

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  13. 7-11 locally not quite fair.. by iamsure · · Score: 2, Funny

    With the Bush cups at the checkup line, I went looking for a Kerry cup. I was told it was "Back there".

    I walked through the cooler, into the storage shed in the back, crawled under the chicken wire enclosure, picked the lock on the cabinet door, opened the door, got the cup, took it back to the counter, and was told there was a $5 cooler tax.

    Damn battleground states.

  14. Demographic breakdown by Intocabile · · Score: 5, Funny

    According to 7-11, Bush cup supporters enjoy their coffee with plenty of rich cream and sugar, while Kerry cup supporters prefered they're coffee black or opted for a more international blend. With less the one percent of the cup vote third party cups remained unused, cup voters instead opted for their homemade organic root-marm. When asked about the poll Bush was quoted as saying, "Juan Valdez is a true patriot. Never forget 7-11... er I mean 911." The Kerry camp simply stated, "most young americans don't drink coffee, do you have any questions not related to coffee." Ralph Nader popular third party candidate had this to say. "Corporate America is pulling a fast one at the expense of the American consumer once again with cofee lids that could easily pop off scalding thousands, blinding hundreds."

    1. Re:Demographic breakdown by flyingsquid · · Score: 3, Funny

      Meanwhile, Republicans prevented black people from entering 7-11s across the nation, as Democrats furiously worked to keep Ralph Nader cups out of the stores...

  15. Re:Unfortunately, GA and N. Florida doesn't have 7 by bergeron76 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For grins, I counted the number of United States that are in this poll. The number that I arrived at is: 31.

    I guess I could understand if they only omitted Alaska(AK) and Hawaii(HI); however, they left out 38% of the United States! We have 50 states here!

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