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Two New TLD's Near Approval

Iphtashu Fitz writes "The Associated Press is reporting that ICANN is nearing approval of two new top level domains: .travel and .post. The Universal Postal Union in Bern, Switzerland, wants ".post" for national postal services, local post offices, business partners and stamp collectors around the world. Private companies that provide postal services, such as Federal Express and UPS, also would be eligible. The Travel Partnership Corp., a New York-based trade group, seeks ".travel" for travel agents, airlines, bed and breakfast operators, tourism bureaus and others in the travel industry. ICANN is also considering eight other TLD's including .asia, .eu, and .jobs but they haven't progressed as far as .travel and .post. More information here."

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  1. Wow, they did it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They come up with TLDs as useless as .museum. Bravo!

    1. Re:Wow, they did it by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Funny? Where's "+1: Dead accurate"? Seriously, who thought that .post was a peachy idea? "Why, in five years' time, I'll bet we have... a good three or four registrants!" How many postal systems are there in the world? Surely no more than 200 or so. Even at 100% saturation, this will still be a void wasteland.

      How many commercial travel operators are going to move away from the well-recognized .com TLD and into a new .travel? That sounds even lamer than .biz, and I've literally never seen one single legit business in that namespace (please don't flood me with counterexamples).

      At any rate, you'll see at least as many smartass domain names as legitimate ones in either dumb new TLD. For example:

      $ grep -E '*post$' /usr/share/dict/american-english-large
      bedpost
      c ompost
      doorpost
      fencepost
      gatepost
      goalpost
      g uidepost
      heelpost
      impost
      lamppost
      milepost
      ou tpost
      post
      repost
      ripost
      rudderpost
      signpost
      sternpost

      I for one welcome our new com.post overlords.

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    2. Re:Wow, they did it by plover · · Score: 4, Funny
      Where's "+1: Dead accurate"?

      Come on, this is Slashdot. "+1: Dead accurate" would be as useless as "Papal Brand Condoms."

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    3. Re:Wow, they did it by Ollierose · · Score: 4, Funny

      don't forget bigasa.post for the spam emailers

    4. Re:Wow, they did it by Bequita · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Why, in five years' time, I'll bet we have... a good three or four registrants!" How many postal systems are there in the world? Surely no more than 200 or so. Even at 100% saturation, this will still be a void wasteland."

      You forget, the .post TDL is open to stamp collectors too. I be that'll increase the number of registrants by oh say... one.

      (PS - Any nominees for suckers to advertise on that sole stamp collectors site?)

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    5. Re:Wow, they did it by Kenshin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, in thast case, we need:

      insightful.post
      interesting.post
      funny.post
      t roll.post
      flamebait.post

      and so on.

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    6. Re:Wow, they did it by Pxtl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      fuck it. Nobody follows the rules anyways. Just stop making new, stupid TLDs except one: .x .x is simple - use for "everything else". Require that any unrecognized TLDs in a URL that people enter automatically use .x as their TLD. So typing in google gets you google.x and so on. Then stop making new TLDs.

      Honestly, people don't follow the rules for .net, why do you expect any other public TLD to bother? Hell, most educational institutions outside of the USA don't have .edus either. .i .don't .really .care .about .tlds .any .more

    7. Re:Wow, they did it by dirk · · Score: 3, Funny

      For my thoughts on this issue, please head to dumbasa.post. There's lots of iCANN info there.

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  2. Right. by jbarr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ".COM" was supposed to be for commercial companies and businesses. ".ORG" was supposed to be for non-profit organizations. ".NET" was supposed to be for networks and ISP's.

    Like this will be controlled any better?

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    1. Re:Right. by MP3Chuck · · Score: 3, Funny

      .omgwtfbbq?

  3. so some slashdotter will register by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    first.post

  4. Re:seriously. by mopslik · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's there, only they use ".xxx"

  5. Re:Nonsense by Muda69 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm going to register www.first.post as soon as it's available......

  6. Re:seriously. by KidHash · · Score: 3, Informative

    RTFA They're considering .xxx

  7. Re:seriously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny



    Why isn't there a .porn?


    What do you think .asian is going to be? What about .teens?


  8. They forgot one... by gik · · Score: 4, Funny

    .ENOUGHALREADY

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  9. TLDs are BS by hackstraw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How many does somone or a comany need to buy to "avoid" ambiguity. I mean every slashdot is taken except slashdot.name, and it kills me that slashdot.com gets any hits for the website slashdot.org. Slashdot used to not even redirect or give you a bozo message for accessing slashdot.com, it just threw the contents of slahdot.org at you.

    What are the points of TLDs? I thought they were to avoid ambiguity, yet they promote it. Remember the whitehouse.com vs. whitehouse.gov thing? How about the current suprnova.org vs. suprnova.com and suprnova.net? The USPS can't figure out if they are a .gov or a .com. Same with the US Marines. Are they a .mil or a .com. Keep in mind that .com is supposed to be for commercial stuff. I guess the military is the biggest business in the US, but thats another post.

    How many "normal" people know more than the .com domain?

    I go on these rants from time to time, and I feel as though I'm in the vast minority of people that see no purpose of TLDs, but can anyone give one example of their utility? I have found one guy on the net that agrees with me and the /.er that pointed me out to that page, but otherwise they keep making more of them and making them longer and more silly.

    Now, the only useful thing for TLDs is to separate countries. Why? Because countries have different languages and currencies. I get pissed when I do a google search for something and end up at a brittish site. I have nothing against the brits, but its stupid for me to look at buying a $10 trinket from there. Its not too common, but I've ended up at UK .com sites and was not happy. /rant

    1. Re:TLDs are BS by cryptochrome · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously. They should just go non-tld and be done with it. That way, companies and orgs won't have to register a half dozen sites just to redirect them to one.

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    2. Re:TLDs are BS by Moby+Cock · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe american sites should adopt .us and we can get rid of all amibiguity. There will be amazon.com.us, amazon.ca, amazon.co.uk. Then everybody will know where the heck they are looking.

    3. Re:TLDs are BS by alext · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Naturally we sympathise with your unfortunate experience in obtaining some foreign web sites in your Google searches. I understand that the rest of the world occasionally experiences US web sites being returned in their results, if that's any consolation.

      Regarding TLDs, I think the distinction you may be groping for is that between a naming authority and a subject area.

      Countries are quite good at being authorities, but non-governmental authorities are possible too. ICANN comes to mind, and it's possible to imagine the UN, ISO etc. in this role, as well as new amateur and commercial groups yet to be identified.

      The bottom line is that the world will never agree which site http://www.kitchenappliances should resolve to, let alone www.truth or www.beauty.

      The solution is not more divisions by subject but more groups making the subjective divisions.

  10. Why? by stubob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why continue to confuse people with MORE tlds? Since .org, .com, (ok, .edu and .mil are still pretty well maintained) and .net are basically used interchangable anyway, what benefit are we going to receive from being able to go to www.usps.com versus www.usps.post? This seems like it give more opportunities for domain squatting and lawsuits over similar sites. I wonder if the owners of the the previous domains will get first crack at the new ones anyway, rendering the whole thing pointless and just a big money grab for icann. Oh, wait, I think I just made my own point.

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  11. .TLD's .for .all! by killermookie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .So .are .we .planning .on .adding .as .many .specific .TLDs .as .possible .to .confuse .us .even .more? .How .the .hell .do .travel .agents .get .their .own .freaking .domain?!

  12. Value of non .com/net/org/national TLDs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is exactly the relative value of these new TLDs, as compared to the most common TLDs? ( .com, .net and .org, coupled with national ones like .nl, .co.uk, .au, etc ) I mean, I think most of us know just how respected any .biz or .info domain is, as most of those domains are used by spammers, scammers and other pond scum. Therefore, if my business' primary adress would be a .biz I'd instantly lose a lot of credibility online, simply because of the TLD. Of course, other TLDs host their fair share of crap as well, but the signal-to-noise-ratio is quite terrible on .biz and .info ...

  13. Only on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why isn't there a .porn?

    And from TFA:

    The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, in advancing the applications for postal services and the travel industry, said they were still considering eight other proposals including ".asia," ".jobs," and ".xxx."

    Only on /. can a poster who clearly didn't RTFA be modded +5 "Insightful" within 1 minute...

    Yes, I must be new here...

  14. .mov TLD for movies by ddkilzer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why doesn't the movie industry get ".mov" approved for movie web sites? Some of the domainnames they're using for movies these days are just stupid.

    1. Re:.mov TLD for movies by to+be+a+troll · · Score: 5, Funny

      cause Windows would try to open it in Quicktime for windows...it would be really annoying

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  15. What percentage of people... by PornMaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    in Asia use the word Asia?

    A TLD in English for people who by and large don't speak English (Yeah, go on and tell me about India, Hong Kong, and Singapore... then look at how many others don't) seems pretty friggin' silly. .eu, on the other hand, would be understood by most people in the EU.

    Except maybe the French, who might think it's short for Etats-Unis, of course.

  16. This is bullpucky. by InThane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    (This is not a troll - I'm absolutely serious about this.)

    We should abolish all non-national TLDs. Each company could then register under its own national domain, or if local, under the state, county, or city sub-domain. This would deal nicely with the sovereignty issues that crop up all the time - if you're in the .us domain, U.S. content laws (and only U.S. content laws) apply to you. If you're in .au, only Australian content laws apply to you. If a foriegn state doesn't like what other countries are putting up, they can block access to those domains.

    This is all IMO, of course.

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  17. why not... by FnordPerfect · · Score: 5, Insightful

    imho, .film would have been a more reasonable addition.

    For each and every blockbuster movie a website pops up that is called something like foobar-themovie.com, foobar.com, foobar-film.com, etc.
    Would be nice to have all the official websites collected under one TLD.

  18. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Insightful

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  19. Re:seriously. by Fiveeight · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No-one will use the xxx domain, because two weeks after it appears, "family" groups will start hassling ISPs to block, filter and generally suppress it. At the moment they can avoid it by saying it's impractical to block stuff by address, but when it's just a matter of dropping a TLD from their DNS...

  20. Seconded by jfengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you were registering a new domain foo, and foo.com were taken, what exactly do you get for yourself by registering it as foo.biz? Or foo.us? You risk having your mail sent over to foo.com anyway, because that's what people know.

    I have no idea what the Belgium post office thinks it can accomplish with the .post TLD. If they think they can get people's minds to believe "Oh, that's a postal facility, I'll check under .post first", well, maybe they're right, but I wouldn't bet on it.

    I concur that geographic names have some use; it would perhaps have been better never to have introduced .com and for most of those current .coms to be .us. The language differences are useful; I expect amazon.de to speak German and to mail cheaply to addresses in Germany. The .com TLD should perhaps be reserved for the truly multinational site that directs you to your country/language specific sites. So perhaps it really should be amazon.us instead, but it's too late now.

    At this point whenever I see companies with irregular TLDs, I think of them as second-rate. Often those TLDs are cheaper, and so the companies seem shady or fly-by-night (especially if they're trying to save a measly five bucks on makealotofcashlegally.biz). If you have a name and you can't get .com, get a new name.

    Actually, I myself use a personal .net address which I've owned since the days when .net had a meaning, but if I had it all to do over again I'd grab a .com instead. I wonder how much mail I've lost to people sending it to the .com equivalent. If it were a business I'd change the name, but it's just me.

  21. And what does this have to do with ICANN's job? by karl.auerbach · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ICANN's job is to do "technical coordination" in order to promote the "stability" of the internet.

    One has to have a really crazed imagination or warped sense of humor to believe that ICANN's criteria for selecting new Top Level Domains has anything whatsoever to do with technology or the ability of the net to deliver packets or respond quickly and accurately to DNS queries.

    ICANN has become little more than a mouthpiece for certain well healed industrial segments; the public interest, as well as the public itself, has been ejected from ICANN's policymaking and policies.

    ICANN is fighting to keep its job from going to the ITU. ICANN's arguments are pretty weak when one considers that ICANN is not doing the job that it was constructed to do but is instead simply the willing handmaiden of small, short-sighted, self-interested groups.

  22. Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    Please find the RFC that states that. Until then, I'll quote RFC 1591:

    COM - This domain is intended for commercial entities, that is
    companies. This domain has grown very large and there is
    concern about the administrative load and system performance if
    the current growth pattern is continued. Consideration is
    being taken to subdivide the COM domain and only allow future
    commercial registrations in the subdomains.

    NET - This domain is intended to hold only the computers of network
    providers, that is the NIC and NOC computers, the
    administrative computers, and the network node computers. The
    customers of the network provider would have domain names of
    their own (not in the NET TLD).

    ORG - This domain is intended as the miscellaneous TLD for
    organizations that didn't fit anywhere else. Some non-
    government organizations may fit here.


    Please note:

    ORG is for "miscellaneous organizations", NOT non-profits. The idea of .org being for non-profits is some sort of wierd meme that everyone believes, for no particular reason.

    NET is for "only the computers of network providers, that is the NIC and NOC computers", NOT ISPs.

  23. Re:2 more by DocSnyder · · Score: 4, Funny
    What about .scam and .spam?

    .info and .biz exist.

  24. Re:Yeah by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So what do you do about multinationals?

    You don't do anything about them.

    If, say, IBM wants to have a .us website then they have to operate that website in accordance with US laws. If they also want to have a .fr and a .uk web site then they'll have to operate those in accordance with French and British laws. And so on.

    Just like at the moment IBM's American subsidiaries have to be operated in accordance with American laws and its French and British subsidiaries have to be operated in accordance with French and British laws.

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  25. Re:seriously. by Fiveeight · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's sad that I can't tell if you're joking, or running for office.

  26. Mr. Huge Ego by spartan · · Score: 3, Funny

    So now Steve Jobs needs his own TLD?

  27. No, .biz sucks harder by spike2131 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That sounds even lamer than .biz .travel is bad, but no way its lamer than .biz. Travel at least is a word, and could go well with some website names, like, say, Hawaiian.travel.... .biz, on the other hand, has no excuse. Its not even a word, just some crap some idiot made up trying to sound hip in the late '90s.

    I do agree with your observation, though - I too have never seen a legit business in the .biz namespace.

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  28. .geek by jedkiwi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wake me up when there is a .geek domain.

  29. .med by ewg · · Score: 3, Informative

    I nominate .med, for hosptials and other non-profit medical institutions.

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