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Two New TLD's Near Approval
Iphtashu Fitz writes "The Associated Press is reporting that ICANN is nearing approval of two new top level domains: .travel and .post. The Universal Postal Union in Bern, Switzerland, wants ".post" for national postal services, local post offices, business partners and stamp collectors around the world. Private companies that provide postal services, such as Federal Express and UPS, also would be eligible. The Travel Partnership Corp., a New York-based trade group, seeks ".travel" for travel agents, airlines, bed and breakfast operators, tourism bureaus and others in the travel industry. ICANN is also considering eight other TLD's including .asia, .eu, and .jobs but they haven't progressed as far as .travel and .post. More information here."
They come up with TLDs as useless as .museum. Bravo!
Why isn't there a .porn?
I think it would be nice to seperate that stuff out.
Do post offices need their own TLD?
Come on!
You can tell who's the driving force behind todays Internet standards
".COM" was supposed to be for commercial companies and businesses. ".ORG" was supposed to be for non-profit organizations. ".NET" was supposed to be for networks and ISP's.
Like this will be controlled any better?
My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
I'll register the first.post domain.
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
first.post
.ENOUGHALREADY
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How many does somone or a comany need to buy to "avoid" ambiguity. I mean every slashdot is taken except slashdot.name, and it kills me that slashdot.com gets any hits for the website slashdot.org. Slashdot used to not even redirect or give you a bozo message for accessing slashdot.com, it just threw the contents of slahdot.org at you.
.gov or a .com. Same with the US Marines. Are they a .mil or a .com. Keep in mind that .com is supposed to be for commercial stuff. I guess the military is the biggest business in the US, but thats another post.
.com domain?
/.er that pointed me out to that page, but otherwise they keep making more of them and making them longer and more silly.
.com sites and was not happy. /rant
What are the points of TLDs? I thought they were to avoid ambiguity, yet they promote it. Remember the whitehouse.com vs. whitehouse.gov thing? How about the current suprnova.org vs. suprnova.com and suprnova.net? The USPS can't figure out if they are a
How many "normal" people know more than the
I go on these rants from time to time, and I feel as though I'm in the vast minority of people that see no purpose of TLDs, but can anyone give one example of their utility? I have found one guy on the net that agrees with me and the
Now, the only useful thing for TLDs is to separate countries. Why? Because countries have different languages and currencies. I get pissed when I do a google search for something and end up at a brittish site. I have nothing against the brits, but its stupid for me to look at buying a $10 trinket from there. Its not too common, but I've ended up at UK
Why continue to confuse people with MORE tlds? Since .org, .com, (ok, .edu and .mil are still pretty well maintained) and .net are basically used interchangable anyway, what benefit are we going to receive from being able to go to www.usps.com versus www.usps.post? This seems like it give more opportunities for domain squatting and lawsuits over similar sites. I wonder if the owners of the the previous domains will get first crack at the new ones anyway, rendering the whole thing pointless and just a big money grab for icann. Oh, wait, I think I just made my own point.
Planning to be moderated ± 1: Bad Pun.
.So .are .we .planning .on .adding .as .many .specific .TLDs .as .possible .to .confuse .us .even .more? .How .the .hell .do .travel .agents .get .their .own .freaking .domain?!
What is exactly the relative value of these new TLDs, as compared to the most common TLDs? ( .com, .net and .org, coupled with national ones like .nl, .co.uk, .au, etc ) I mean, I think most of us know just how respected any .biz or .info domain is, as most of those domains are used by spammers, scammers and other pond scum. Therefore, if my business' primary adress would be a .biz I'd instantly lose a lot of credibility online, simply because of the TLD. Of course, other TLDs host their fair share of crap as well, but the signal-to-noise-ratio is quite terrible on .biz and .info ...
Why isn't there a .porn?
And from TFA:
The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, in advancing the applications for postal services and the travel industry, said they were still considering eight other proposals including ".asia," ".jobs," and ".xxx."
Only on /. can a poster who clearly didn't RTFA be modded +5 "Insightful" within 1 minute...
Yes, I must be new here...
What about .slash or .dot?
FoundNews.com - get paid to blog.,
... just introduce their own .post.ch ?
Why doesn't the movie industry get ".mov" approved for movie web sites? Some of the domainnames they're using for movies these days are just stupid.
in Asia use the word Asia?
.eu, on the other hand, would be understood by most people in the EU.
A TLD in English for people who by and large don't speak English (Yeah, go on and tell me about India, Hong Kong, and Singapore... then look at how many others don't) seems pretty friggin' silly.
Except maybe the French, who might think it's short for Etats-Unis, of course.
500GB of disk, 5TB of transfer, $5.95/mo
(This is not a troll - I'm absolutely serious about this.)
.us domain, U.S. content laws (and only U.S. content laws) apply to you. If you're in .au, only Australian content laws apply to you. If a foriegn state doesn't like what other countries are putting up, they can block access to those domains.
We should abolish all non-national TLDs. Each company could then register under its own national domain, or if local, under the state, county, or city sub-domain. This would deal nicely with the sovereignty issues that crop up all the time - if you're in the
This is all IMO, of course.
InThane
Only on /. can a poster who clearly didn't RTFA be modded +5 "Insightful" within 1 minute...
:) and there are semi-related threads under those threads from the people that posted early, got modded early, yet didn't think about what they wrote and usually didn't read the article (they didn't have time).
Yes, I must be new here...
Get an account, people rarely comment to the Anonymous Coward.
I personally believe that there should be a delay between when an article is posted and when ppl can start flooding posts. What I see is that there are about 10 or so threads at the top of each post. garcia is usually the first or second
And then there are many small threads below the "hot" ones.
Maybe we need a checkbox when submitting a post "Yes, I RTFA" or "No, I didn't RTFA", and a comment modifyer for those (not) reading the articles, and a mod -1 didn't RTFA because the content is obviously there.
Just my thoughts.
imho, .film would have been a more reasonable addition.
For each and every blockbuster movie a website pops up that is called something like foobar-themovie.com, foobar.com, foobar-film.com, etc.
Would be nice to have all the official websites collected under one TLD.
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If you were registering a new domain foo, and foo.com were taken, what exactly do you get for yourself by registering it as foo.biz? Or foo.us? You risk having your mail sent over to foo.com anyway, because that's what people know.
.post TLD. If they think they can get people's minds to believe "Oh, that's a postal facility, I'll check under .post first", well, maybe they're right, but I wouldn't bet on it.
.com and for most of those current .coms to be .us. The language differences are useful; I expect amazon.de to speak German and to mail cheaply to addresses in Germany. The .com TLD should perhaps be reserved for the truly multinational site that directs you to your country/language specific sites. So perhaps it really should be amazon.us instead, but it's too late now.
.com, get a new name.
.net address which I've owned since the days when .net had a meaning, but if I had it all to do over again I'd grab a .com instead. I wonder how much mail I've lost to people sending it to the .com equivalent. If it were a business I'd change the name, but it's just me.
I have no idea what the Belgium post office thinks it can accomplish with the
I concur that geographic names have some use; it would perhaps have been better never to have introduced
At this point whenever I see companies with irregular TLDs, I think of them as second-rate. Often those TLDs are cheaper, and so the companies seem shady or fly-by-night (especially if they're trying to save a measly five bucks on makealotofcashlegally.biz). If you have a name and you can't get
Actually, I myself use a personal
ICANN's job is to do "technical coordination" in order to promote the "stability" of the internet.
One has to have a really crazed imagination or warped sense of humor to believe that ICANN's criteria for selecting new Top Level Domains has anything whatsoever to do with technology or the ability of the net to deliver packets or respond quickly and accurately to DNS queries.
ICANN has become little more than a mouthpiece for certain well healed industrial segments; the public interest, as well as the public itself, has been ejected from ICANN's policymaking and policies.
ICANN is fighting to keep its job from going to the ITU. ICANN's arguments are pretty weak when one considers that ICANN is not doing the job that it was constructed to do but is instead simply the willing handmaiden of small, short-sighted, self-interested groups.
Please note:
ORG is for "miscellaneous organizations", NOT non-profits. The idea of .org being for non-profits is some sort of wierd meme that everyone believes, for no particular reason.
NET is for "only the computers of network providers, that is the NIC and NOC computers", NOT ISPs.
I am personally not much of a fan of TLDs. In my experience, they just lead to confusion. Most domains are registered under .tld, so that's where people will look, even if they should technically be somewhere else. This is also how domains are registered (compare georgewbush.com and georgewbush.org). Outside the US it's even worse - sites often have the country TLD, but sometimes a gTLD. To avoid confusion, some sites are accessible through multiple TLDs.
.com anyway. The only people who benefit are those who profit from more domain registrations.
.com or anything. While we're at it, we might as well get rid of the ass-backwards naming, e.g. google/www/search rather than www.google.com/search. Companies that actually use the TLDs to select sites in different countries could still do so; instead of google.de and google.co.uk they would get google/de and google/uk.
So, if TLDs are not being respected, why have them at all? Some have tried me that it organizes the namespace hierarchically, thus distributing the load. I don't think it helps a lot, if most people go for the
My proposal? Change the system so that top level domains can be directly registered. E.g. Google would get just Google, with no
And one more pet peeve of mine: we could add support for IP-IP encapsulation. That way, if your server is hosted between a NAT box, you can just instruct clients to route the packet to your internal IP via the NAT box. Of course, the client and the NAT box would have to support it as well...
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
Well, the point is that it won't be as simple to register a .post as it has been to register a .com.
.coop and .pro (namespaces for co-operatives and "professionals", respectively).
.coop, registrants have to submit to a lengthy verification process to ensure that they are, in fact, eligible co-operatives or co-operative service organizations. Similar restrictions exist for .pro and .museum.
.biz, for instance, these new specialty TLDs probably won't lead to a rush of companies registering yet another foomatic.* for their DNS warchests, as happens with .com/.net/.org, if for no other reason than most of those companies (including, thankfully, professional domain squatters) are generally ineligible for registration in the specialty TLDs anyway.
.biz, either, but that's less due to the fact that anyone could register in it -- which has lead to squatting in .biz -- and more due to the fact that it's retarded. IMHO. ;))
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.com/net/org namespace. I don't see how they add to the problem.
This is already the case with several gTLDs, such as
For instance, in order to qualify for a
Unlike
(Actually, maybe such a mad rush didn't happen for
More importantly, specialty TLDs provide an opportunity for eligible individuals and organizations to actually use their own name. An accounting firm by the name of McDonald & McDonald, for instance, might actually get to use mcdonalds.pro
Done right, these new TLDs are part of the solution to the artificial scarcity of the
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At least this provides the opportunity for more silly domain puns. Maybe, if it's as unregulated as .com, .net, and all those other general hierarchies, it'll even be abused by newspapers -- think washington.post, newyork.post, etc.
.adult or .porn or .xxx TLD. If pr0n sites were required to use those, or at least any new ones, it would make blocking access by children vastly easier. The browser or blocking software can just check the URL. ... On the other hand, I would like to see ICRA ratings more widely adopted and supported. There's more flexibility.
.porn TLD. That would also make things a lot easier for people searching for porn.
.secx TLD. Then all the se.cx sites can move there, and finally, the .cx TLD shall be free to be a home for domains of legitimate relevance to, or located in, Christmas Island. If there are any, which there probably aren't.
.slash TLD, just so someone can get orgdot.slash, and create an Elgoog-style mirror of Slashdot. (Of course, it will probably end up being taken over by trolls from the American Association of White Female Women, the mirror GNAA...)
Actually, that would make for nicer URLs, but it's just not right...
In all seriousness, maybe there should be a legally-regulated
But still make a
While I'm throwing around domain-name ideas in a post that will probably be moderated -1 Silly And Rambling anyway, how about a
Also, we need a
Signature.
So what do you do about multinationals?
.us website then they have to operate that website in accordance with US laws. If they also want to have a .fr and a .uk web site then they'll have to operate those in accordance with French and British laws. And so on.
You don't do anything about them.
If, say, IBM wants to have a
Just like at the moment IBM's American subsidiaries have to be operated in accordance with American laws and its French and British subsidiaries have to be operated in accordance with French and British laws.
The real Ralph Yarro posts as Anonymous Coward. Anyone else is an impostor.
...you have extremely popular social rags, nobody reads them, but everybody knows what's written in them. Add 2+2. I suspect the ratio of puritans to "covert" porn surfers is such that
.net .org .com .biz etc. etc. so noone else can take them" domain.
a) Porn sites would lose customers because some people would "publicly" have to use a clean ISP but would really like to have smut.
b) Porn-incompatible ISPs would lose customers (but oh no not because the competition offers porn, no uh they just had the better offer, that's just coincidental).
And, if nothing else, I suspect these domains would become another "register the
Kjella
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Someone really needs to regulate ICANN as they're getting more and more stupid with their decisions. I thought they were a responsible organisation, I looked up to them when they pulled their weight with Verisign. Now, they're almost as bad.
.gov when every other country has to stick their own TLD after their own government address (gov.uk, gov.ac, etc.), why should America be the King of the Internet?
.com, .org and .net for sites with worldwide interest. Everything else is COMPLETLY and UTTERLY REDUNDANT.
Even before ICANN started added redundant TLDs the TLD system wasn't right. Why should the US government have
In a perfect world the only TLDs that should exist are the country codes for country specific websites, then
Everyone is too used to doing it the old way, though, so I doubt it would ever happen.
Free Hans!
couldn't it just be www.google or http://slashdot?
...as names are non-unique. The intent of TLDs is to expand the namespace (as opposed to no TLDs, like just "ibm" instead of "ibm.com"). Take apple. How many would want to register a hash involving apple? Apple computers? Apple music? Apple (fruit) producers/suppliers/distributors? TLDs are an attempt to make these coexist peacefully, as people would understand apple.computers, apple.music and apple.farm are different businesses.
Your suggestion is just begging for a service like the linkfarms for google. Register hashes on countless variations of combinations of words to send people to the wrong site. Instead of a few, you now have near endless combinations to worry about. The problem is not the hierarchy, it never was. Sure it's imperfect, but it is marginal.
The real problme is that there are too many companies, organizations, societys, individuals and whatnot that want to have a short domain, and there's only that many to go around. In order for your solution to work, all must really have one unique "entity name", and then you're back to a non-TLD solution. Otherwise, squatters will register "entity name" + other keywords.
Kjella
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So now Steve Jobs needs his own TLD?
That sounds even lamer than .biz .travel is bad, but no way its lamer than .biz. Travel at least is a word, and could go well with some website names, like, say, Hawaiian.travel.... .biz, on the other hand, has no excuse. Its not even a word, just some crap some idiot made up trying to sound hip in the late '90s.
.biz namespace.
I do agree with your observation, though - I too have never seen a legit business in the
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Wake me up when there is a .geek domain.
I nominate .med, for hosptials and other non-profit medical institutions.
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In the UK it's currently possible to register .co.uk and .me.uk, there are others (.ltd.uk and .biz.uk etc) but those are the main two. We then have random crap like police.uk nhs.uk. Why not just open up the top level and let me register something.uk????
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Is there a comprehensive list of :
:)
- Currently active TLDs (be it cc, g, s or otherwise)
- Deprecated TLDs
- Proposed TLDs
?
I've got one myself ( http://www.pointzero.nl/dump/domains.xml - don't complain about non-validation, it's only for quick data-reading ), which I already see I need to edit some ( thanks, wikipedia ) - but can't quite seem to find any other comprehensive list in existance to bring it up to current affairs.
Oh, and any blatant errors in the xml's data ? Feel free to point them out
The only thing these guys are selling is thin air. There are already about 100+ tlds out there (random guess). Why we need more is beyond me.
.com/net/org!!!!
But of course, these guys are charging people up the a$$ for merely managing dns servers. Don't fall for the hype. Your domain will NOT BE WORTH ANYTHING unless you have a
Plus, imagine trying to build a business on a non-dot-com domain. Your traffic will just leak to the dot-com version, giving your competitor free advertising.
This is getting really lame. In 1998 when CORE was gonna release all those tlds (which never came about) it was sort of interesting. Now it's just the same old same old.
Trust me folks. DOT COM is where the action's at.
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You'd think they'd learn. Remember ".biz"? Makes South Central LA look like a good neighborhood. Most "businesses" in .biz seem to be somewhere between marginal and illegal.