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BitTorrent Accounts for 35% of Traffic

Pranjal writes "According to a reuters article on Yahoo, BitTorrent accounts for an astounding 35 percent of all the traffic on the Internet -- more than all other peer-to-peer programs combined -- and dwarfs mainstream traffic like Web pages." The article goes on to talk about how BT is no longer beneath the radar of those who like to sue file sharers.

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  1. Prediction: The creators get sued anyway by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At least under U.S. law, it's a bit more difficult to find the makers liable as long as the software is capable of being used for innocent uses, which I think (BitTorrent) surely is."

    But that doesn't mean that they won't be sued into bankruptcy anyway. Anybody want to bet that is (MP/RI)AAs next move? Sue the creator and coders of the various BitTorrent applications to bully people who might consider writing useful P2P software in the future?

    Of course I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for anybody caught infringing on software/movie/music copyrights with BitTorrent. It's not anonymous by any means -- and the trackers provide a nice centralized target. Isn't it clear that BitTorrent wasn't designed with copyright infringement in mind?

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    1. Re:Prediction: The creators get sued anyway by XiQ · · Score: 5, Funny

      Doesn't look like they can bankrupt Bram Cohen much more than he was some time ago...

    2. Re:Prediction: The creators get sued anyway by agoliveira · · Score: 5, Informative

      The answer in in the question itself: don't develop/store in USA.
      This kind of software is not ilegal here in Brazil, for instance.

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    3. Re:Prediction: The creators get sued anyway by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The answer in in the question itself: don't develop/store in USA.
      This kind of software is not ilegal here in Brazil, for instance.

      It's not "illegal" in the United States either. I was saying they would be sued not charged. Huge difference. Anybody can sue you for anything. Unless they are grossly abusing the system (and the Judge orders them to pay defense costs) it is going to cost you money to mount your legal defense.

      And the "just write this software overseas" argument is old. Most of us aren't willing to give up our American citizenship and move overseas just to escape legal liabilities. I'm not saying that to flame -- it's just the truth. There are more constructive suggestions then "do it elsewhere".

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    4. Re:Prediction: The creators get sued anyway by mordors9 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      As I recall when they were suing the other P2P users, they were using a formula that took the number of songs being shared by some dollar amount. That was why people with huge libraries that were being shared, were being sued for astronomical amounts. With torrent users, there is only the one song that the user is currently downloading that is easily discoverable. So for the average user, how will they generate the large damage figures.... oops I forgot, they can just make up a figure for damages.

    5. Re:Prediction: The creators get sued anyway by shadowjk · · Score: 5, Informative

      The university through which my own university's connectivity is provided, has quite a hefty firewall setup, with the capacity to classify traffic based on content rather than port usage. They then later used this to setup traffic shaping and limit p2p activity to a mere fraction of what it was before.

      As the hotlinking whore I am, I will just link to their week-long sampling of traffic, which shows that BitTorrent accounted for 44% of outgoing traffic. This is before traffic shaping. No graphs of after-traffic shaping has been provided (yet).

      In: http://www.cc.utu.fi/verkko/maarat/sisaan.png
      Out: http://www.cc.utu.fi/verkko/maarat/ulos.png

      Translation:
      Muut = Other
      Rest should be self-explanatory.

    6. Re:Prediction: The creators get sued anyway by nomadic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not necessarily. You can sue someone for breaching a contract, for example, but it's not illegal to breach one.

    7. Re:Prediction: The creators get sued anyway by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Who says anything about American's moving overseas? American's don't have to emigrate for development to happen overseas. What will happen though, as the US gets more and more tied down with stuff like software patents, and authors being sued when people dont like your customers, is that software development in the US will slow. And that means that when there is a demand for software, it won't be American that fulfils it. America is legislating away its dominant position in the software market.

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    8. Re:Prediction: The creators get sued anyway by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 5, Informative

      For those interested, PeerGuardian is here.

  2. Re:I'd love a breakdown of legal vs. illegal files by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    Presidential Debates, funny commercials

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  3. Someone has to say it by jpmkm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What the FUCK does this have to do with my rights?

  4. Thank god.... by DarkMantle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... that I live in Canada where this is still legal.

    And you guys though that America was the home of the free.

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    1. Re:Thank god.... by schon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      my TOS with my ISP forbids downloading copyright protected works

      Well, considering that almost *everything* on the internet is protected by copyrighted (thank you, Berne Convention), your ISP must only allow you to visit Project Gutenberg, right?

      What the hell are you doing reading this?!? It's copyrighted! Get the hell off the damn internet before your ISP shuts you down!

  5. Re:I'd love a breakdown of legal vs. illegal files by PSUdaemon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Porn? I mean, isn't that what this whole crazy internet thing is for?

  6. 35% bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    My medium:
    35% bittorrent
    64% web
    1% other

    By content:
    99% p0rn
    1% Slashdot

  7. Great legal BT links? by freelunch · · Score: 5, Informative

    How about some torrent sites with great legal content?

    This site is excellent.

    If you have never used BT and watched how it consumes bandwidth, you really ought to check it out. Pretty neat.

    Tools like Etherape will draw funky realtime network connectivity maps. Watching your computer talk to that many other peers makes you feel pretty exposed.

    Azureus is my preferred graphical client under Linux. Any other favorites?

  8. Has Major ISP started to throttle BT? by A5un · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm experiencing this and I'm not alone as evidenced here and here.

    Sandvine's product is being speculated as the culprit. More details here. Is there anyway around this? I don't want to be stuck downloading new distros (which are coming soon) with slow BT.

  9. Sad day for file sharing? by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 5, Informative

    BitTorrent was intentionally designed not to hide IP addresses as its developer, Bram Cohen, openly acknowledges. That's because his goal wasn't to develop a P2P tool that could be used to share content illegally but to develop a P2P tool that reduced bandwidth for legally shared content, such as Linux ISOs, etc.

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  10. Television Shows by DavidLeblond · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know the RIAA can bust you for downloading music, and the MPAA can bust you for downloading movies... is there any large organization (other than HBO, CBS, etc) that is looking to bust people for downloading television shows?

    I have in the past downloaded shows when my VCR or DVR crapped out and didn't tape them so I was curious of the legalities of this.

  11. Someone figure this out for me... by sserendipity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can someone tell me how many percentage points there are in all the internets? I'm pretty certain that about 70% is pron, 50% is spam mail and at least 85% of all internet traffic was in the form of mysterious, partisan, hard to prove or disprove, statistics about internet traffic.

  12. Here is the study by RealProgrammer · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... that apparently started all of this. It was published by Cache Logic, who make traffic statistics boxes.

    http://www.cachelogic.com/research/slide1.php

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  13. Re:So let me add this up... by Al+Dimond · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then where's the room for /. talking about BitTorrent, pornography and spam? Seems to me that the 1% of slashdot can be broken down just about the same way as the rest of the internet... .35% /. talking about BT .5% /. talking about porn .1% /. talking about spam .04% /. talking about actual content .01% /. talking about itself.

    Of that .01%, there can be a similar breakdown: .0035% /. talking about /. talking about BT .005% /. talking about /. talking about porn .001% /. talking about /. talking about spam .0004% /. talking about /. talking about actual content .0001% /. talking about /. talking about...

    Although I'd be willing to be /. spends more than 1% of it's time talking about itself, such as this post, and about 30% of the previous.

    (furthermore, I left out the proportion of /. traffic created by its ugly and stupid layout scheme, that could be less ugly and break less browsers AND use less bandwidth with the miracle of CSS. But I digress.)

  14. Re:so little HTTP bandwidth? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Am I wrong in finding that hard to believe?

    I'm with you on this one. I'm watching a big chunk of the internet. My top 3 numbers are as follow:

    25% http

    6% gnutella

    5% bittorrent

    Maybe what I'm looking at is atypical, but I'm just not seeing the numbers reported. The article does not seem to list any source for its numbers.

  15. Consider the source of this number by aderusha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The study comes from CacheLogic (http://www.cachelogic.com), which sells bandwidth throttling appliances to ISPs, schools, companies, etc. Considering that their business is to scare large-scale internet users into throttling the bandwidth use of your typical BT user, I don't find it at all surprising that they are claiming somewhat inflated numbers for P2P use on the internet at large.

  16. Re:C&D time? by Foz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why oh why would you not P2P without a condom? BT Plugins like SafePeer (for Azureus) or applications like Protowall use blacklists from places like Bluetack to filter out known *AA addresses, among others. I don't really know how effective they are, but I'd be curious to hear from people that use them and still get C&D's. I have heard of plenty of people getting C&D's but those people weren't using condoms.

    YMMV of course. I'm not advocating digital theft, nor am I criticizing it. I'm just curious as to why people aren't protecting themselves. Maybe I'm just fooling myself that they work at all, but I'd like to think they do.

    -- Foz

  17. Re:OT but, What's Legal to dl??? by JaxGator75 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Since this is Bit Torrent we are talking about, it should be noted that you cannot Download without Uploading. That's what makes it inherently dangerous to those that prize annonymity...

    /brazen

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  18. Re:Sue BitTorrent application authors like Blizzar by schon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    even the entertainment industry could use BitTorrent-like technology to offer video or music on demand without having to invest truckloads of money into bandwidth

    They *could*, but they won't, because it deprives them the means to control distribution.

    This is an industry whose MO has been to resist *every* new technology, whether it's beneficial to them or not - look at the lawsuit launched by Disney/Universal against the VCR - they wanted it banned, caput, illegal... even though today home video sales make up a huge percentage of their profits, they still hate it, because they no longer control the distribution (once they sell a video, they can't stop you from selling it to someone else.)

    Look at the music industry, who fought tooth-and-nail against *radio*, claiming it would end music (after all, who would pay to go to a concert when you can get the music for free in your own home, and if nobody will pay for live music, how will musicians earn money?) It wasn't until they discovered they could control the airwaves that they finally (and begrudgingly) gave in - until the advent of the home tape recorder gave them new reason to fear.

    The entertainment industries don't *care* about any potential benefits new technology will bring them, they're stuck in their old business model ways, and fear anything that might possibly provide competition for their cartels.

  19. Re:Can you be sued for only transferring part? by ironfrost · · Score: 5, Informative

    >copyright law treats one second the same as a minute or an hour of material

    That's not actually true. According to the 1976 Copyright Act, as interpreted by the Subcommittee on Courts and Intellectual Property, Committee on the Judiciary, U.S. House of Representatives (Source):

    (9) Multimedia Material: Up to 10% or 3 minutes, whichever is less, in the aggregate of a copyrighted motion media work may be reproduced without permission. Up to 10%, but in no event more than 30 seconds, of the music and lyrics from an individual musical work (or in the aggregate of extracts from an individual work), whether the musical work is embodied in copies, or in audio or audiovisual works, may be reproduced without permission.

    Considering the way BitTorrent works, a possible defence might be that you're not copying more than 30 seconds of the work from any one source, so your actions are legal. Of course, this is completely against the spirit of the law and would result in further restrictions just as soon as the Government got around to passing them...

  20. Torrents and the *AA by colonslashslash · · Score: 5, Informative
    Myself and Matt from The Linux Mirror Project run BitTorrent 24/7/365, seeding out from 4 servers on 100mbps pipes, and thats just for the Linux ISO torrents, I also am usually running it from home a good 18 hours a day.

    The thing to consider is that unlike Kazaa-like networks where the big bad *AA could search for their albums / movies and find out how many illegal files a user has by viewing their shared folder, torrents exist only for a single entity at a time, so the *AA trying to sue someone for downloading [insert crappy pop album here] would only be able to sue for that particular infringment, and they wouldn't be able to prove the user has 10,000 other albums on their system.

    This, I would think, makes it dramatically harder, and alot less financially viable for them to start dragging BitTorrent users downloading illegal files into court, and is probably why it hasn't happened yet.

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  21. I got nailed by mikeg22 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I downloaded a popular recent movie off of a suprnova bittorrent link, and the next day my internet connection was down. I called up the Cox customer support and they gave me another number to call but wouldn't tell me who I was calling. I called the other number and the guy on the other end knew the exact movie I had downloaded, explained politely that I was not supposed to be "uploading" that movie (which bittorrent automatically does), and then turned my internet connection back on.

    I asked the guy if Cox was monitoring my usage, and he said no, that "someone else" had called them to complain. I assume this someone else was the MPAA or somebody working for them.