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New Blu-ray Disc to be Made of Corn

aws910 writes "I've often thrown away a CD and wondered how long it will take to biodegrade. Pioneer has developed a blu-ray disc that is made of corn. If this disc is widely used, it may be the only easily biodegradable computer part/accessory (with the exception of pizza). Now I wonder what would happen to one of those new discs if you put one in the microwave for 5 seconds." While the idea of a corn disc isn't new, it's the first Blu-ray version of it.

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  1. Corn CDs... by zedmelon · · Score: 5, Funny
    Pioneer has developed a blu-ray disc that is made of corn.

    And best of all, it stays crunchy in milk!

    Fritz Pisot!

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    1. Re:Corn CDs... by macdaddy357 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Aw, Shucks!

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    2. Re:Corn CDs... by Eric+Giguere · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh great, my dogs already like to grab the popcorn flying out of the air popper... now they'll be hot to trot for my data as well!

      Still, I suppose this will be better than finding bits of shiny plastic in the doggie doo-doo:

      Five-year old daughter: Papa, have you seen my toy?
      Me, staring at colorful deposit in backyard: Umm, no...

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    3. Re:Corn CDs... by tuxter · · Score: 5, Funny

      Kernel release 0.0.1?

    4. Re:Corn CDs... by Slime-dogg · · Score: 4, Funny

      My biggest question is what do they do with the corn shells?

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    5. Re:Corn CDs... by freqres · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm lost with all these corn based products. It's just a maize of technology.*Rimshot*

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  2. Who throws away dics? by fembots · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Eco-friendly disc is nice, but how many people are going to throw away Blu-ray disc?

    25GB is serios amount of data, I (maybe just me) would try to keep it even if it contains very unimportant data, since it's so easy to store a disc, it's not like you need one 5x5 room to store it.

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    1. Re:Who throws away dics? by tuxter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How many people thought they where going to throw away a CD, or, gasp, a CD-R with their amazing 680 meg of data. Give it a few years and we will.

    2. Re:Who throws away dics? by Piranhaa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well when CD/DVD's came out, I'm sure people were saying the same thing! As more and more demand for more storage comes out, cheaper media comes out, and more and more cheaper burners come out, there's going to be coasters and better for biodegradable reasons :)

    3. Re:Who throws away dics? by IBeatUpNerds · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, say it contained some crucial evidence to some nefarious plot. You could simply break it into 4 or 5 pieces and munch it down with some salsa and guac.

    4. Re:Who throws away dics? by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why throw them away? Get out the salsa and recycle them.

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    5. Re:Who throws away dics? by GMC-jimmy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I generally don't commit junk data to CD's, so I may have to avoid these new corn-made discs.

      I still have some archives I burnt to CD-R from way back in 1999. That archive is getting quite extensive, I'd be very upset if I had to reburn that archive every year to avoid media rot. Due to OS reinstalls and FAT32 file corruption, most of my archives are now the sole surviving copy of previous backups. Media rot is already a worrisome concern with me. The media giants, such as the ones represented by the RIAA and the MPAA may be rather pleased with this kind of research. One might need to investigate the source of R&D funding to find the truth for certain. Personally I think this is a bad thing for consumers that rely on data backups.

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  3. I wonder... by I_am_Rambi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now I wonder what would happen to one of those new discs if you put one in the microwave for 5 seconds.

    Would that be a popcorn disc?

  4. Corn? by E_elven · · Score: 2, Funny

    So what happens when the computer gets hot?

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  5. Oh boy. by neuro.slug · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let the corny jokes commence.

    Oh wait...

    1. Re:Oh boy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      will they use blue corn?

    2. Re:Oh boy. by hords · · Score: 3, Funny

      Woot! Now we can have Korn on corn!

  6. Middle? by kirkb · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is the middle of the disc called the "corn hole"?

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  7. Pizza by LordHatrus · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm glad you included pizza; They don't call rackmount servers "pizza box" servers for nothing ;) ... fit a mini-atx nicely :D

  8. Made with corn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Made with corn... ...but filled with porn!

    The cost? Your first born.

    1. Re:Made with corn... by Matt+Perry · · Score: 3, Funny

      Would that be pictures of Corn Stars? [link NSFW]

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  9. An interesting thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    This will be the first data transfer medium that will have a cornhole.

    Thank you. I'm here all week.

  10. Genetic Engineering by vlad_grigorescu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We have been gentically engineering corn for a variety of purposes for a while now. I wonder if this will spur a "Blu-ray" variant of corn. It should be interesting to consider what properties of the corn would make the best discs (longest lasting, scratch-resistant, etc.)

  11. so a biodegradable archival medium huh? by way2trivial · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Some manufacturers currently offer what should be a 300 year cdr for archiving...

    how long does the corn last anyway?

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    1. Re:so a biodegradable archival medium huh? by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's all a conspiracy by **AA to guarantee short shelf life.

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  12. Warning: Pun! by shigelojoe · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does this mean that /.-ers will start storing their pr0n on their cr0n?

    1. Re:Warning: Pun! by magefile · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, they'll use cr0n to aut0mate pr0n backups t0 c0rn.

  13. I wonder.... by tuxter · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you get your finger stuck in the spindle hole, does that constitute being cornholed?

  14. Longevity? by fdawg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My CD-Rs are slowly falling apart due to age. After about 4 or 5 years, they're about as good as dirt. Ive been slowly converting everything to DVD but I fear the same thing will happen to them. I remember reading on slashdot that disks have a limitted shelf life due to corrosion and the breakdown of laminates. Now, these disks are designed to breakdown. What good is this to anyone who wants to keep data beyond half a decade?

    1. Re:Longevity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Currently from what I understand they have two types of bio plastics. One will be used for containing food you buy at stores, flatware, plates, cups, so forth that you throw out. They take some time to degrade and start when in dark damp places. The second kind you have to burn off at a low temperature, it doesn't give off anything harmfull when burned. Car bodies, interior parts, and long term plastic parts will be made of this type. So unless it's lifetime of the dvd is intended to be weeks or less then they will use the kind that is more or less permanent.

      I haven't seen any data on how long these will hold up even using the type you need to burn off.

    2. Re:Longevity? by zakezuke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What good is this to anyone who wants to keep data beyond half a decade?

      What about data that doesn't need to be kept beyond a 1/2 decade? I think that's the point. The first thing that comes to mind are security camera videos. DVD-/+R is the prevered medium due to its small size and low cost but long term storage is pointless.

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    3. Re:Longevity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      While the disc can theoretically be eaten, it is coated by a 0.1-millimeter (0.004-inch) thick layer of resin and is too hard for even the strongest teeth.

      So it's not designed to breakdown, it's designed so that if the starch polymer is incinerated, it will not emit dioxins and any other harmful chemicals.

    4. Re:Longevity? by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Note that being biodegradable doesn't necessarily mean that it has a short life. There are plastics which are biodegradable but are quite durable. I don't know If this is the case but still, don't confuse the two concepts.

      And by the way, if in fact these disks break up easily, they may not be of much use for someone who wants to keep data for a long time. But, as you stated on your post, neither are the vast majority (if not all) of the storage media which is bought off the shelf in any store. And, unlike the typical CD-R/CD-RW/whatever, these corn disks break up in a rather environmentaly friendly way, which is a vast improvement.

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  15. Imagine... by improbable · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Hey man! You said these disc were made of corn, right?"

    *crack*

    *scream*

  16. Who Cares by The_Rippa · · Score: 3, Funny

    Let me know when they make a 64-bit processor out of polenta.

  17. Nachos by 3770 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man,

    That's gonna be thousands of tons of corn diverted away from making nachos.

    Make those discs out of egg plant instead. Nobody will miss them.

    Mmmm... Nachos.

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  18. Feedstocks! by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This will be great for recycling discs to feedstocks, since most of Hollywood's output is swill fit for pigs anyway. (Sorry if I offended any pigs. I am such an insensitive bastard.)

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    1. Re:Feedstocks! by boarder8925 · · Score: 2, Funny
      I am such an insensitive bastard.
      That's insensitive clod! =P
  19. Microwaves by Indy+Media+Watch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I wonder what would happen to one of those new discs if you put one in the microwave for 5 seconds.

    He writes that knowing full well what happens to current discs when you put them in the microwave.

    That is.... Awesome lightshow caused by arcs between the thousands/millions of pits and hills on the disc's surface.

    I highly recommend it, but suggest:

    a) Not using your own microwave
    b) Not using a disc you like to watch...

    In case you can't resist,

    c) Not putting it back into your own DVD player afterward.

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  20. wow by nomadic · · Score: 4, Funny

    24 comments already and no bad jokes using the word "kernel". I'm proud of you all.

  21. But how is the durability? by CarnivoreMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is this corn stuff sturdy enough to endure intense office frisbee action?

  22. CornDisc by SinaSa · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think this is a potentially a very cool thing, but you have to admit it's immensley funny if you think about it.

    Five Pioneer R&D guys sitting at a table, thinking what they are going to do with Blu-Ray. One of them looks down at his bag of nacho's... look's up at the picture of the DVD, then back at the Nacho's.

    The rest is history.

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  23. Food supply? by MP3Chuck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So I didn't RTFA, but why divert corn from the food supply? I'm sure it's not exactly in short supply but with so many starving people in the world wouldn't it be better off actually feeding people?

    Or will the occasional coaster now be edible? ;)

    1. Re:Food supply? by darkmeridian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is enough food to feed all the world. There hasn't been a consensus to feed them. War and politics prevent this (see Somalia).

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    2. Re:Food supply? by Bazer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And in some cases 'feeding the country' via charity had a pretty strange side effect. For example farmers who wouldn't teach their kids how to actually _grow_. Why work? Just go get some food from the guy in the white van...

  24. Not a corny joke by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let the corny jokes commence.

    Atkins dieters are eagerly awaiting the Blu-ray disc composed of pork rind.

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  25. I've got one... by bchernicoff · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I wonder what would happen to one of those new discs if you put one in the microwave for 5 seconds.

    You get...pop music!

  26. Mmmmmmmm......... by Mung+Bianca · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seedy Rom.....

  27. Re:Argh. Corn? by glowimperial · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't think they are going to do anything that displeases their masters in the red states. We are going to have ugly, bad for the economy corn subsidies for a long time.

  28. Nachos are served by EtherAlchemist · · Score: 2, Funny


    So what happens when the computer gets hot?

    It smells like corn tortillas, of course.

    What I want to know is, can you make nachos from the discs that end up as the inevitable coasters?

    Mmmmm, blu-ray disc nachos...

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  29. AOL, are you listening. by sl0wp0is0n · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm waiting for the day when AOL starts sending me free breakfast in mail, everday! :)

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    1. Re:AOL, are you listening. by k4_pacific · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gotta eat it fast, as it goes bad after 1045 hours.

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    2. Re:AOL, are you listening. by superpulpsicle · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well you won't last that long cause your food will come with viruses.

    3. Re:AOL, are you listening. by tonsofpcs · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, your food will BE a virus.

  30. corporate espionage by k4_pacific · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This would be great for corporate espionage. If you are caught by security, you can hastily wolf it down. No more evidence!!

    "It was a rice cake, I swear!"

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  31. Oh boy-King Taco. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Let the corny jokes commence."

    Why didn't CmdrTaco bring us this story?

  32. Re:Watch out for hobos.. by Epsillon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Somebody ought to force AOL to use this technology. Then, far from having to act their way to a free seedy ROM, there would be a plentiful supply for the bums to eat and, as a side-effect, AOL would actualy be doing something useful for once.

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  33. Shiny? by marciot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't CDs have to be shiny and reflective? What is shown in the picture sure looks dull and matte. Has blu-ray eliminated the need for the reflective backing? -- Marcio

  34. Re:Stupidest idea ever. by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Insightful

    sometimes it is not.

    the idea is that it wont fill landfills like non-sold et carts.

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  35. It'll never catch on... by winkydink · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't see these things replacing cobs in the outhouse.

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  36. Biodegradable storage. by achilstone · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't fret I think we've been storing data on biodegradable media which can last for thousands of years if stored right.... it's called paper.

  37. And with the Computer Cookery 5000.... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ingredients:

    * AOL
    * corn disks
    * Computer cookery 5000 with Intel Pentium Prescott (TM) as the heat source.

    What do you get?

    FREE POPCORN!

  38. maybe some good will come of this by ChipMonk · · Score: 3, Funny

    After all, it would make AOL's idiotic discs very welcome in third-world countries.

  39. How to make "corn starch plastic" at home... by SkyMunky · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (from http://www.wisagclassroom.org/Corn%20Plastic.pdf )

    Materials Needed :
    cornstarch
    measuring spoons
    corn oil
    water
    medicine dropper
    food coloring
    microwave
    sandwich-size resealable plastic bag
    Procedure:
    1. Place a tablespoon of cornstarch in a resealable plastic bag.
    2. Add two drops of corn oil to the corn starch.
    3. Add one and a half tablespoons of water to the oil and cornstarch.
    4. Stir the mixture.
    5.Add two drops of food coloring to the mixture and stir well.
    6.Next, microwave your biodegradable plastic for 20-25 seconds on high.

    (and obviously, use caution)

    1. Re:How to make "corn starch plastic" at home... by dargaud · · Score: 2, Funny

      This reads like the recipe of most of the stuff I've tried to eat while in the US.

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  40. Disc of corn? by indros13 · · Score: 2, Funny
    If this biodegrades in a landfill as well as corn digests in my body, I wouldn't call this a roaring success...

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  41. Trademark Trouble? by chooze · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wonder if they're going to get into trademark trouble with the other Pioneer

  42. Polylactic acid by jbeaupre · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A common plastic made from corn is polylactic acid (just google it). It's strong, clear, and easy to work with. More expensive than its comptetitors. But yes, it is biodegradable. Just toss it in the compost heap. It's also the same plastic used to make absorbable medical implants (sutures, screws, etc). That's right, if put a chunk under your skin (not that I recommend it), your body slowly absorbs it.

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  43. Mark Twain hates you, and you are going to die... by Dogtanian · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mean, say you're a some geek bachelor--but alas, I repeat myself.

    Mark Twain. He's back. And this time he's out for revenge. Revenge.... on every third rate mangling of his humorous quotes. Once he's spotted you.... there's no escape.

    (Clip.. voice of Mark Twain); "Viewer, suppose you were a mangler of the work of Mark Twain. And suppose you were someone who was going to die by having their bowels ripped out through their throat. But I repeat myself."

    Twain; The Revenge. At cinemas on Friday, rated 18.

    (At this point, the author of this post is killed by the ghost of the real Mark Twain, pissed off that his quote got mangled again).

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  44. Good luck by gearry · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the article:

    " While the disc can theoretically be eaten, it is coated by a 0.1-millimeter (0.004-inch) thick layer of resin and is too hard for even the strongest teeth."

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  45. Re:uhh, I don't know about you ... by Dogtanian · · Score: 2, Funny

    What, have you no faith in post-apocalyptic pr0n?

    You mean, like mutants with three breasts or two penises?

    Or both, on the same person...

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