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WinAmp's Death Greatly Exaggerated
robyannetta writes "In a previous story, we heard that WinAmp was
down for the count. Apparently, this is not the case.
Here is a note by Eric Caoili that says "No we weren't axed. We haven't even seen anyone with an axe. There was this one guy who came up to us to axe us a question, but that's about it.""
There was this one guy who came up to us to axe us a question, but that's about it.
Did you hear OJ's son confessed to the murder?
He wanted to see a movie, and OJ said I dunno - go axe your mom.
Why didn't you guys plan an exit event when AOL bought you? Why stick around in a new corporate culture anyway?
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
...who of the original lineup of Nullsoft/Winamp coders are still there.... and how many people are working on it now vs. when it was in the Winamp 1.0/2.0 stages...
Honey, I shrunk the Cygwin
What, an "early demise" article, and no mention of netcraft?
What's not a joke is that any news is good news.
For one brief instant we all figured winamp was dead. The internet news sites picked it up, people were downloading every version known to man for archive, and we were all focused on winamp once again.
Welcome to the world of the rumor-feeding news cycle.
We have been played.
It is great to hear that Winamp isn't dead. I have been using it for 5 years now and haven't found a better media player yet. It is both small and quick, Windows Media Player is neither. Not to mention that I have yet to find a sound file that I couldn't get it to play, where many of my files just refuse to play in iTunes or WMP.
Java has no friends.
1) We don't have the source 2) If you are seriously proposing that WMP is as good as Winamp 5, I want some of whatever you're smoking. 3) It's still nice to know it's still around, even if it is a commodity,
My Systems
There was this one guy who came up to us to axe us a question...
Ah, nothing like computer nerds using slang..... It's so cute yet so disturbing.
Bryan R.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, or $12.50 as seen on eBay.....
Winamp stopped adding useful features / improvements (for me) after version 3.0... iTunes and WMP10 are much better, with song rating / automatic playlists (song I didn't heard in the past week I like, yes thank you).
Why anyone would pay for Winamp is beyond me. The free version does the job... like a bunch of programs out there. Of course, brand recognition, nostalgy and all...
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Eric's site, Winamp Unlimited, expands a little on the Winamp situation, and also has comments on most of the news articles that've been published regarding the topic.
If you missed it in the last discussion, he also has written a past article on what some of the ex-Nullsoft kids have been up to.
It's weird talking about myself in the third person.
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I just recently saw this on my dad's computer.. He was watching anime.. My dad was watching anime on WinampTV.. That was pretty cool..
I just wish they had a version for Linux...
in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni
I've been using winamp since .92 and ever since Justin left, maybe even when he sold out to AOL, it started to go downhill. Winamp is still the best player out there, but the passion, attention to detail and overall quality seems to have declined.
You are correct that it's a media player, and that there are lots of media players out there. But IMO, WinAMP is the ideal choice for music. WMP doesn't have the functionality and extendability that WinAMP has, and many other free media players are clogged up with overly fancy interfaces and/or just don't perform as well.
WinAMP always was free. There's a "pro" version with extended capabilities, but at no point was there NOT a free version that did everything any other media player did (and often more).
And I do not recall WinAMP ever being open source. There is an extensive SDK available, but the program itself is not available in source form... at least not through any legit channels that I could find.
=Smidge=
to everyone who came out to show their support for us and who defended us when everyone was calling us gay.
That is a nice little bit of homophobia from their press release. Real professional guys. Sheesh.
Perhaps you didn't notice because 3 scared you away, but 5 is far more closely related to 2 than 3. They realized how bad 3 sucked, and then skipped a whole digit just to tell you how cool 5 was. And it really is pretty nice. Better than what else is out there, anyway.
:)
All of the major security holes for Winamp that I recall had to do with the fact that it has a component that embeds Internet Explorer. And I've never seen a case of winamp-related "spyware" that doesn't involve either use of IE or other blatant stupidity.
So back off
No, not flamebait (although I'd mod you all the way down to Antarctica if I had any points left) - just plain wrong. You have GOT to be joking about WMP. That piece of shit is so bloated it's not even funny.
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. -- G.B. Shaw
Even in its corrections /. acts like a tabloid...
Mathematics is made of 50 percent formulas, 50 percent proofs, and 50 percent imagination.
WMP is soooooooo much better than that piece of dogcrap.
I'm going to have to agree with you. WMP10 is a very nice piece of software.
Plus, I don't know what kind of voodoo magic MS is practicing these days, but WMP is able to rip an entire CD into mp3s in 2 minutes flat.
3rd party audi player
er...a BMW?
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. -- G.B. Shaw
to everyone who came out to show their support for us and who defended us when everyone was calling us niggers.
Still think it is funny?
It is dead, it's just hasn't stopped moving yet.
Winamp is rapidly gaining the same level of "features" that Netscape did when it died - it's bloated and tries to sneakily add AOL icons to your desktop. Oh and let's not forget the spyware aspect to the commisions they get on sales - nice touch. The fact that the interface hasn't been made any easier to use, and only gets more fiddly and complicated confirms it. Winamp is the great golden flamingo God of bad user/interface design.
All they need to do now is package AOL instant messenger with it, and it will be truly dead for ever more.
Nobody knows how to fuck up a once perfectly good piece of software through bad decisions like AOL. You really know your software sucks with 100% full vacuum when your old version is actually better in every way over the latest release. Even Macromedia would be impressed with the sheer - "I wonder if the whole thing is running in some sort of emulator""-ness of it all.
Si tacuisses philosophus mansisses. If you had kept quiet, you would have remained a philosopher.
This is NOT the time or place for that joke--I'm still in mourning for the Lone Coder.
Using a dialect to make a joke isn't a racial slur. It's an appeal to stereotype. And while linguistic stereotypes are often tied in the lay public to other sorts of stereotypes, such links are not an inherent part of language, and imo (and in the opinion of other linguists) linguistic stereotypes shouldn't be confused with racial or discriminatory stereotyping. Language use doesn't confine itself to racial borders.
And besides, you could just as easily say he's just making fun of any number of groups who play up talking like that, like rappers (some of whom you'll note are white).
There are lives at stake here!
The reason why i chose to use winamp 5 is for global hotkeys. This alone makes this player irreplacable. There's probably other players that have them (probably before WA too) but it's the first time I encountered them. I could never go back to non-global hotkey music player.
Now, I haven't had the need to look for an alternative, but maybe someone here might give me the just of them?
We should have been
So much more by now
Too dead inside
To even know the guilt
I prefer winamp still, and will be saddened when I see it go. I like it's efficient use of screen real estate, and the ease I can add songs to my playlist. Winamp, the old version 2, is still the best.
Saskboy's blog is good. 9 out of 10 dentists agree.
winamp used to rock. Then for some unfathomable reason someone decided that winamp needed a built-in webbrowser. A WEB BROWSER FOR CHRIST'S SAKE! As soon as I learned about foobar2000 I ditched winamp for good. foobar2000 is also Unicode compliant; winamp won't do unicode without really ugly kludges. That makes foobar2000 perfect for mp3 files with east asian language file names/ID3 tags.
NO CARRIER
"Right now I am using WMP 10 and it does everything I want, it plays my mp3's and that's all I want."
Annnd sets the stage for massive DRM nazism in the process. Good choice!
You need a FREE iPod Nano
Holy crap, you dogged an apple product and you didnt get modded down?
Lucky son of a bitch.:)
They didn't skip the digit. Their logic was 5 had the feel of 2 and the features of 3...
3 + 2 = 5
I'm listening to WinAmp right now (v5). Had I known that it was dead, I would have been pretty sad. Going to WinAmp.com every now and then, I never noticed their "death"- kind of odd that the first thing I hear about it is Slashdot telling me not to worry.
- dshaw
No, although winamp is a AOL-loaded, bloated POS, audi wouldn't settle for anything that doesn't:
A. Automatically turn itself on and off, even when the car is turned off.
B. Just automatically stop playing CDs/Cassettes after no major incidents.
C. Go into SAFE mode for no reason at all.
D. Require an extra special aftermarket adapter to get another changer to work.
I could go on, and on, and on, but instead I just point you to audiworld.com
Don't get me wrong, I _love_ my a4, but the stereo blows goat ass.
That's because it only rips the first and last 15 seconds of each track, the rest of the time is filled up by RIAA brand Insta-Noise for your listening enjoyment.
- because HTML doens't render linebreaks
- because I'm to damned lazy to keep track of the numbers in my list
- because it makes me look super 1337 even though it's so simple
Remember, it's spiffier when you use it!That which is done from love exists beyond good and evil
Uh ... AFAIK, you can easily turn that off. And even if it is on, it is anonymous.
But it is a matter of WHO they report to, and how visible the link to disable is. (Winamp is presented in install I believe)
Why would you want to use something that's named "F***ed Up Beyond Repair 2000"?
:P HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!! *ducks and hides now*
I dunno, but apparently that doesn't stop people from using Windows!!
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It's official; Netcraft confirms: Spelling is dying
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Spelling Nazi community when IDC confirmed that proper spelling market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all Web users. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that proper spelling has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Proper spelling is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive writing test.
You don't don't need to be a Kreskin to predict the future of proper spelling. The misspelled hand writing is on the wall: Spelling faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for spelling because spell-checking is dying. Things are looking very bad for the Spelling Nazis. As many of us are already aware, spelling continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
Microsoft Word spell checker is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Word developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Spell checking in Microsoft Word is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
Oxford English Dictionary publishers Oxford University state that there are 7000 users of the OED. How many users of Merriam-Webster are there? Let's see. The number of OED versus Merriam-Webster posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 Merriam-Webster users. Wiktionary posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Merriam-Webster posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of the Wiktionary. A recent article put Microsoft Word Spell Checker at about 80 percent of the electronic dictionary market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Word spell-check users. This is consistent with the number of poorly-spelled Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Microsoft, abysmal sales and so on, Word went out of business and was taken over by Microsoft Office who sell another troubled spell-checker. Now Microsoft Office is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that proper spelling has steadily declined in market share. Spelling is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If spelling is to survive at all it will be among linguist dilettante dabblers. Spelling continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, spelling is dead.
Fact: Spelling is dying
I saw a letter he wrote yesterday about being seriously ill that I posted today, but was rejected
And a bloody good thing too, because we all know how people react to dupes.
Don't you hate meta-sigs?
Winamp 5 can just be set to search for the latest version, or it can be checking for info on the music you are playing.
If it's checking for updates, try this:
1. Rightclick some blank area of the skin.
2. Click "options" on the resulting menu, then click "preferences".
3, On the "winamp preferences" window that results, go to "general preferences". Find the checkbox labeled, "Check for new versions of winamp at startup" and uncheck it.
Also, the "jump to file" subsection under "general preferences" may have another box that says "check for new version when winamp starts" Just in case, you may want to see if you need to uncheck this one too.
If winamp seems to be getting information on the current file, even when you don't have the media library open, go to that same window, and where it reads "Select your internet connection type", try telling it the computer is "not connected to the internet".
Who is John Cabal?
Just a tip, Winamp was not always free... before aol bought them it was shareware for like 25$. The only thing was it was never crippled so no one really registered it.
To the casual listener probably not, Winamp is still much "sleeker" graphically. Of course music player should be more about the sound (Tell that to cell phone companies). That's where foobar comes in, although its not open source, you basically know how the entire "signal path" goes from the music file out to whereever you go. You can't really say the same thing for any other players (well you can tell, but it's much more difficult). For example, bet you didn't know most mp3 *clips*, it's just how mp3s encoding do (some samples will go beyond the range of the bitstream "wav" output, thus clip). Foobar lets user deal with the (hard) clipping, either through limiter (soft clips) or something like Replaygain. Another thing is the common sample rate conversion (44.1k->48k) problem with bad resamplers from AC97 soundcards (AC97 does everything is 48k, most music [CDs] are 44.1k), custom SRC was one of the first things in foobar. They also got things like kernel streaming (as oppose to DirectSound) if your a stickler on bitwise perfect output. Of course now it's grown into so much more. Most of these stuff most users won't care, or won't know enough to care, but the point is, foobar lets you control the signal path. Any critical listener would tell you the cleanest signal path is the best you can hope for, unless your equipment has known flaws which need major fixups. Check out hydrogenaudio's forum it's hosted on, these guys are major hardcore audio geeks (the "technical, scientific audiophiles").
SO SO much better than Itunes.
Especially because the iTunes music store doesnt work where I live.
dont need it, dont want it, cant use it. Goodbye.
Electromagnetic noise generated by the digital circuits and picked up in the analog circuitry of the sound card, making an audible buzzing and crackling sound that is most obvious when listening to what should be silence, but is often noticable in a lot of music.
I have a really nice pair of Grado Labs headphones and can't stand listening to music on my PC.
Fortunately I have three macintoshes, which all have better audio engineering. Despite posting this message from a win2k PC, I'm listening to Radio Paradise on iTunes running on my Blue & White G3 Mac.
Prefer Linux? Linux sounds best when run on Apple hardware. I also use XMMS sometimes, on an ancient Power Macintosh 8500 that runs Debian Sarge.
Request your free CD of my piano music.
emacs as my OS of choice.
Is it just me (perhaps I am old) but are these guys playing too much Altered Beasts on their spare time? :-)
Yeah, I'm off topic but the title of the article just lend itself to this question.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden