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Color Laser Printers Tracking Everything You Print

It's not new, but it's getting noticed: Jordan writes "Yahoo! News is reporting that several printer manufacturers are now and have been for some time embedding (nearly) invisible serial numbers in every document you print with their color laser printers, allowing law enforcement to track any such document back to the printer which printed it. The technology, ostensibly created to track down money counterfeiters, was created by Xerox about 20 years ago. A Xerox researcher says that the number-embedding chip lies 'way in the machine, right near the laser' and that 'standard mischief won't get you around it.'"

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  1. I was right! by Kenja · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is why I always print my ransom letters using an old daisy wheel printer.

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    1. Re:I was right! by colinemckay · · Score: 2, Funny

      So that's why I keep running out of yellow ink!

    2. Re:I was right! by Epistax · · Score: 4, Funny

      My soldering iron says that fingerprints might be unique, but they aren't permanent.

    3. Re:I was right! by Jahf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Which can still be tracked to your employer.

      That's why I always use Kinko's, paying cash, while wearing a Santa suit (everyone loves Santa, doesn't matter what time of year).

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  2. It's the new model... by LilMikey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Get dazzling colors, the blackest blacks, and the highest resolution from your new HP Ashcroft.

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  3. Re:Those rat b--- by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny
    "That just has to break some kind of privacy law"

    What makes you think we still have such archaic things as privacy laws anymore? Dont you know that if you have a private life the terrorists win?

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  4. CSI by The_Rippa · · Score: 5, Funny

    And as we all know very well, CSI has a machine that will read the code and bring up a 3d map with your current location, a recent photo of you, and a list of every cash purchase you've made in the last six months.

    1. Re:CSI by chill · · Score: 5, Funny

      You are confusing CSI with WalMart. You also forgot the computer that tracks every RFID-tagged item you ever bought from there or Sam's Club.

      Wait a minute...I think the last box of tin foil I bought was from WalMart! That means it probably has an RFID tag...

      IS NOTHING SACRED?!

      =Charles

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  5. odd by name773 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The technology... was created by Xerox about 20 years ago.
    It was 1984 twenty years ago.

  6. We can turn this to our advantage... by LegendOfLink · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...by printing tons of encoded, "dots", so when police read them, they will read, "All Your Base Are Belong to Us!"

    The Geek revolution has begun.

  7. "Standard Mischief" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does that include a Louisville Slugger?

    1. Re:"Standard Mischief" by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, but I have a whole labfull of "enhanced mischief".

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  8. Re:Just another reason... by 6Yankee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lesson learned, if you want to print hundreds of forged checks or counterfeit bills, pay for the printer in cash!

    But not cash that you printed yourself on a printer that wasn't paid for with cash you didn't print yourself. Or something.

  9. That's not a daisy wheel printer by commodoresloat · · Score: 3, Funny
    It's Microsoft Word. There was no printer available in 1972 that could have printed those....

    Oh, sorry. Wrong discussion.

    1. Re:That's not a daisy wheel printer by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sure. You didn't Clippy was invented by a human being, did you?

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    2. Re:That's not a daisy wheel printer by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Where *hasn't* MS Word crashed?

  10. Re:Countermeasures? by Zen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just disconnect the yellow. Who needs all three (or four in some cases) colors anyway?

  11. Re:Those rat b--- by Kohath · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's a worse one:

    Did you know that every time you touch something, you leave an invisible mark that's unique to you and can be used to track where you've been?

    It's a privacy nightmare.

  12. Re:How effective is this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I somehow think that applying whiteout isn't an acceptable way around the problem for the types of task that this technology is an issue!

    "Yeah, it's a hundred dollar bill!"
    "What's with the massive amount of tippex on it?" :S

  13. Back to the old methods by MagicDude · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, looks like it's back to cutting out newspaper headlines to make my blackmail notes.

  14. Re:Those rat b--- by BlackMagi · · Score: 4, Funny

    All your prints are belong to us

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  15. Re:Countermeasures? by scribblej · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hahah, that'll work.

    "Hello Kinko's Employee. I'd like you to print 500 copies of this here One-hundred dollar bill. You can just keep one of them to cover the cost."

  16. HAHAHA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    And if all the tape shows is the back of your head then they can pull out the special software that zooms in on the eyeball of the clerk making the sale to get your reflection!

    Then they'll just run it through the special face recognition software!

    You've been watching a little too much CSI.

  17. Re:Countermeasures? by kesuki · · Score: 4, Funny

    Printers are cheap, every time you run out of ink, place old printer inside ion cannon* and turn it into a ball of molten obsidian.. and also never send in warrenty registration etc etc... and even though they can trace documents to a certain printer, since said printer is no longer identifiable.

    *= if you don't Own an ion cannon yet, you can build one care of these DIY directions (a cyclotron is the key component to an ion cannon...)

  18. The naked truth is... by xv4n · · Score: 3, Funny

    The printer has a hidden GPS receiver (yes it works indoors even inside a cave, it's very sophisticated you know), every time you print something, the current location of the printer is also imprinted in yellow using a secret code impossible to detect by human eye. So, there you have it.

  19. Too technical by Himring · · Score: 2, Funny

    A Xerox researcher says that the number-embedding chip lies 'way in the machine, right near the laser...'

    ...just past this little doohicky, but to the right of the thingamuhwhachit, but if you get as far as the whatchamacallit you've passed it....

    Darn engineers and their technical mumbo-jumbo....

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  20. Re:Countermeasures? by fataugie · · Score: 4, Funny
    Good God, has there finally been a "In Soviet Russia" post that was ON TOPIC?

    I guess I can eat a gun barrel now, I have seen everything.

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  21. Re:Those rat b--- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just hope they don't have to check my wang as evidence.

  22. Re:Countermeasures? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Yellow on black = easy to see and we would have known about this a while ago.

    So print on black paper.

  23. Re:Those rat b---IAAPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Wow, I guess in paralegal school they don't have any courses on sarcasm.

  24. Re:Just another reason... by Cylix · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sweet...

    Now I just have to buy a printer at a yard sale and commit some heinous crime with it.

    Later on...

    "Yep, looks like he was murdered with this printer, but don't worry we will track it right back to the owner."

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  25. For Sale - Cheap by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1, Funny
    http://www.ebay.com

    FOR SALE - CHEAP

    Almost new Xerox[tm] color printer.

    Only $200,000, er, 2000 double-sided pages printed.

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  26. Re:Those rat b---IAAPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Paralegal school?" I'll thank you not to refer to Clown College in that way.

    *honk honk*

  27. Famous last words. by theparanoidcynic · · Score: 2, Funny

    'standard mischief won't get you around it.'

    Now that every hacker on the internet knows about it that chip has a life expectancy of . . . maybe friday.

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  28. Re:Countermeasures? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Don't forget the bleached hair, cosmetic surgery, and sex change!

  29. Fool proof cash generator. by wjsteele · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ok... how's this look?

    1). Make your money in your favorite photo editing software.

    2.) Take it to CompUSA/MicroCenter/Frys on a USB Thumb Drive.

    3.) Pop the thumb drive into one of those new printers with the ability to print from there.

    4.) Print Cash in one of their demo printers.

    5.) Use Cash to buy printer.

    6.) Return Printer.

    7.) Get Real Cash.

    8.) Profit.

    Seems complex, but... I have to run... I'm off to CompUSA.

    Bill

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  30. Re:Too damn easy to bypass by DaHat · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bah! You still rely on a piece of potentially traceable technology... with my hate letters (give me money or else ____), I make it a point to cut my letters from various magazines with a straight razor and then glue them to the intended paper (which often too is another magazine page), all while wearing gloves.

    Of course... I would have gotten away with it all too if it wasn't for those pesky kids... and the tracking chips in the glue.

  31. Re:Countermeasures? by lightknight · · Score: 2, Funny

    Disable the alarm system, break in at night. Be sure to replace all used ink cartridges and paper. Then steal something stupid, like a stack of AOL discs. The police and employees will forget about it (no one will pursue a criminal who steals AOL discs, Kinkos has a dozen more boxes and the police don't like being laughed at).

    Wait several months, then start buying stuff. But under no circumstances should you live above your means. The IRS, unlike the police, do not assume innocence, and are pure evil.

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  32. The revolution with not be color-printed by dgmckay · · Score: 3, Funny

    Technology like this is what forces American criminal organizations to outsource their counterfeting and ransom operations overseas. You're putting American criminals out of work!

  33. Re:Countermeasures? by sentientbeing · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ive never had a problem. When I need to make first contact with my associates in the form of anonymous letters, I usually use cut out pieces of lettering from recent newspapers and magazines then haphazardly glue them onto copier paper with egg white or floured water.

    I think most old school kidnappers use the same technique.
    the younger ones obviously use email.

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  34. Re:Countermeasures? by nolife · · Score: 2, Funny


    It would not suprise me if most of the stuff you drag home marks its territory too, including ink jets.

    I do not use my ink jet often but when I do, the ink is always dried, has bands and looks like crap. If these tracking ink dots came out fine and traceable, I'd be pissed.

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  35. I removed it from my printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I was browsing porn with IE and I recieved a Windows dialog warning that stated:
    "Your printer may be secretly printing a hidden serial number. Click here to remove it." So I did. I am safe now. Lucky thing my IP address was not being transmitted.

  36. Re:Countermeasures? by Frogbert · · Score: 1, Funny

    Actually in keeping with the theme, everything has, in fact, seen you

  37. Re:Countermeasures? by Lost+Race · · Score: 2, Funny
    It would not suprise me if most of the stuff you drag home marks its territory too, including ink jets.
    Lucky for me I have a Lexmark. The print quality is so wildly erratic you can barely read the text, let alone some hidden 1mm yellow bar code. Yellow only works about 10% of the time anyway.
  38. or... by Fuzzums · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... or that it just might give the FBI 10-20 times more clues on where to find the used printers.

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    Privacy is terrorism.
  39. Re:Was I seeing these yellow dots, or others? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    And if any of you out there in Kinko-land have a grid chart in your store that gives you enlargement and reduction proportions so you don't have to play with the damned wheel, yeah, I made up that chart.

    Wonderful claim to fame you've got there. hahahah.

  40. Re:Old News by tonywestonuk · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you took a water pistol and sprayed water into the bill slot, it'd short out the electronics of it, and you could push buttons all day to get free drinks. I saw it done a few times. :)
    Could this be taken as armed robbery?

  41. Re:Countermeasures? by obender · · Score: 3, Funny

    We would get Regular visits from the SS

    Could you please explain why the Schutz Staffel would pay you visits at all? I thought I shot them all down in Castle Wolfenstein years ago.
  42. Cash kinda guy by Donny+Smith · · Score: 2, Funny

    > police (I give them money every year)

    Ouch!

    Hopefuly you favor cash so there's no need to worry - unless you use a laser printer to print their names and amounts on the evenlope! ;-)

  43. Re:Countermeasures? by Darth23 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Everything will be fine once the chips are implanted directly into all our brains.

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