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ROTK:EE Trailer Released

artemis67 writes "A six-minute trailer for The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, Extended Edition, has been released, and it's quite good. We get to see some snippets of the final confrontation between Gandalf and Saruman, as well as some other intriguing scenes that will add a lot of depth to the final movie. The Extended Edition will add an additional 50 minutes to the film, bring the total for the Extended trilogy to 11 hours and 20 minutes."

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  1. Direct link to the hi-res quicktime video by theefer · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re:Direct link to the hi-res quicktime video by Ubergrendle · · Score: 5, Funny

      For my 30th birthday, I am going to indulge myself in couch-potato madness and watch all 3 trilogies in sequence. 11hr and 20 min is a significant investment of time, but I think it can be done.

      7am: friends arrive, pancake breakfast.
      8am: Fellowship of the Ring (~4+ hrs)
      12:30pm: Lunch
      2:00pm: The Two Towers (~3 1/2 hrs)
      5:30pm: Dinner
      7:00pm: Return of the King (~ 4 1/2 hrs)
      11:30pm: Eyes ooze out of our sockets, bedsores open on our asses.

      Our first baby is on the way, so I know I'll never get to do something this irresponsible and useless again. :)

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    2. Re:Direct link to the hi-res quicktime video by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 5, Funny

      Our first baby is on the way,

      Are you sure it's yours ? I mean, look at what you do with your time :)

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    3. Re:Direct link to the hi-res quicktime video by 3terrabyte · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You should have it over by 8 pm. What you need to do is not take 1.5 hour breaks, and just order pizzas or something and spill pepporoni on the couch while eating & watching.

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    4. Re:Direct link to the hi-res quicktime video by Dot.Com.CEO · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you were a true Godfather fan you would not speak of a "Godfather trilogy". Just forget the third one.

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    5. Re:Direct link to the hi-res quicktime video by Khomar · · Score: 2, Funny

      I would blame it on the long wait between the theatrical release and the extended edition.

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    6. Re:Direct link to the hi-res quicktime video by Khomar · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Our first baby is on the way, so I know I'll never get to do something this irresponsible and useless again.

      Funny, our son will be 5 1/2 months old by the time we have our LOTR party, but we are going through with it anyway. It has been a tradition in my house for the past two years to watch whatever extended editions existed at the time (my wife and I actually met at the first one). We look at it as a good time to get together with friends and hang out for a weekend (we will be watching the movies over two days).

      Kids don't end the fun; they just change the parameters a bit.

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    7. Re:Direct link to the hi-res quicktime video by microTodd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Remember when RotK was first released, some theaters did a "Trilogy Tuesday" where they played all three back-to-back-to-back. My wife and I drove 150 miles to a theater to participate. It was great! We got free gifts from New Line, the theater brought in catered free food from Sonny's BBQ, and theonering.net reps were there giving away gifts.

      Ah, a very fond memory. I still have the tickets (and lanyard pass) hanging on my cube wall.

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    8. Re:Direct link to the hi-res quicktime video by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 2, Funny

      I see a problem with your schedule.

      7am: Friends arrive, pancake breakfast.
      Yeah, how about
      7:am Pankcake breakfast

      I kid I kid, I'm sure I'll sit down and watch them all back to back too, when I get the RotK(EE)

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    9. Re:Direct link to the hi-res quicktime video by Enrico+Pulatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's not quite insightful, as much as it it "Your Mileage May Vary". For myself, taking long breaks would be necessary if I was to endure watching anything for > 3 hours. Plus, I'd suggest eating something a little more healthy than pizza, as if you'd be amongst a group of friends for 11 hours, the gas would potentially be horrible :)

    10. Re:Direct link to the hi-res quicktime video by The-Bus · · Score: 2, Funny
      Funny, our son will be 5 1/2 months old by the time we have our LOTR party, but we are going through with it anyway. It has been a tradition in my house for the past two years to watch whatever extended editions existed at the time (my wife and I actually met at the first one). We look at it as a good time to get together with friends and hang out for a weekend (we will be watching the movies over two days).


      Let's do some math here. You met at the first EE party, which was November 12, 2002.

      Rotk:EE is released mid-December. Your son will be 5 1/2 months old by that time. So, he's got a birthday near the beginning of July. Minus nine months means conception was at the end of September, 2003.

      You mean we're supposed to be believe the following order of events, each more ludicrous than the previous...

      1. You attended an event with a female
      2. ...who goes to LOTR events
      3. ...who you were somehow able to talk to
      4. ...and get in the sack
      5. ...in under 11 months?

      Turn in your geek badge, sir. Turn it in.
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  2. Eleven hours and twenty minutes. by vidstudent · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and you know what, folks? We are all *SO THERE*. ^____^

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  3. Re:Already ordered it! by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 4, Funny

    In Korea, only old people have seen all three extended editions. Seriously, it takes that long.

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  4. Only 11h??? by Cyberax · · Score: 3, Funny

    Please, wake me up when a New Super Extended Platinum 24h long Edition will be available.

    1. Re:Only 11h??? by Chas · · Score: 2, Funny
      Please, wake me up when a New Super Extended Platinum 24h long Edition will be available.

      Is that the one that comes with the urethral catheter kit?

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  5. 11 hours 20 minutes ... by YetAnotherName · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yikes ... that's a lot of pizza.

  6. Re:Sauroman??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yup. Sauron decided that Saruman looked more pimp, so they fused into one in Dragon Ball Z style.

  7. what I want to know by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is noew line and the theatres not tapping the opportunity to make gobs of cash?

    special event all 3 extended films in the theatre would sell out for 2 weeks solid. It's guarenteeing that every seat in that theatre will buy 3 movie tickets, they will eat gobs of popcorn, and the delay between film changes will be welcomed for bathroom and smoke breaks.

    it is a fricking gold mine waiting to be tapped, hell, starwars fanatics pale in comparison to LOTR fanatics... they couldn't sell out the trilogy running back to back here but the single night they ran the LOTR movies they oversold it.

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    1. Re:what I want to know by PhuCknuT · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Would you buy a ticket if it cost twice what they do now? Showing a 4 hour movie for the same price as a 1.5 hour movie means you can only show it like 1/3 as many times in a day, and therefore not make much money on it. That's the reason there are 'theatrical' and 'extended' editions of LOTR in the first place. It wasn't to make twice as much selling DVDs, it was because theaters don't like long ass movies.

  8. Words don't come easy... by d95adam · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...between Gandalf and Sauroman

    Dubya, is that you posting here on Slashdot? :)

  9. Re:Realtime by __aahlyu4518 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    12 hours is about the amount of time to read the original 6 books (in 3 well-known volumes)
    Ah.. speedreader are we?

  10. Extended Versions by KrancHammer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To preempt the whining that accompanied every article about previous Lord of the Rings extended version DVD releases: I know some complain that studios release special, super-duper extended versions in a scheme to make more money from people willing to buy multiple versions of a movie. I really don't think that this is the case for the extended version of Return of the King. Its not as if they didn't tell us a extended version was on its way. The wait between the DVD release of the theatrical version an this release is a bit annoying, but I believe it is worth holding off purchasing for. And that's the key phrase... nobody makes you buy every single version of a movie that comes out. if you want the regular version, buy that. If not, wait for the extended movie.

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    1. Re:Extended Versions by Gudlyf · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Although, I believe I read an interview with Peter Jackson somewhere where he says that even these extended releases don't have everything he'd like in them, and that when they release the full extended edition boxed set, he suspects there will be even more footage.

      If that is true, then people will be really pissed off.

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  11. Re:Realtime by Sinus0idal · · Score: 4, Funny

    In Korea, old people read faster than YOU!

  12. Re:Realtime by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its around 1200 pages, right? (I can't remember for sure off the top of my head). Well, that'd mean around 100 pages per hour. I read 1-3 pages per minute, depending on the content, so thats somewhat reasonable. Of course, it'd be exhausting.

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  13. Re:Already ordered it! by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 2

    Is Minas Thirit where Sauroman lives?

  14. Sharkey and the Shire? by Paul+Crowley · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone know if the EE covers all the stuff with "Mr Sharkey" (have I remembered correctly?) and the Shire? Did they even film that stuff?

    1. Re:Sharkey and the Shire? by yack0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All stories have said that "The Scouring of the Shire" has not been included in the movie, at all.

      However, I'm hoping an early christmas present will be that Mr. Jackson left the vision of that event in the Mirror of Galadriel scene for a reason.

      I can hope, but won't hope too much.

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    2. Re:Sharkey and the Shire? by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Informative
      "Does anyone know if the EE covers all the stuff with "Mr Sharkey" (have I remembered correctly?) and the Shire? Did they even film that stuff?"

      They did not film any of the Scouring of the Shire, so no, you won't find that in the EE. I'm not saying I agree with their decision, as I found that chapter in the book to be the perfect way to show the changes in the Shire during their absence, and how evil crept in even there. But I am sympathetic to the idea that movies are not the same thing as books, and I at least understand their motive in not creating another conflict after the big resolution earlier. I know I personally got tired of all those "7 endings" wisecracks. I can only imagine the complaints from people if the Scouring of the Shire were in the movie after what they thought was the ending.

      But for all you purists out there, I can tell you one thing with certainty: That chapter is right where it always was, in the book.

    3. Re:Sharkey and the Shire? by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Funny
      I think I'll write a version of Lord of the Rings told entirely from the point-of-view of Tom Bombadil:

      The Fellowship of the Ring: Bombadil Style -- Tom wanders around the forest singing, and briefly visits with some hobbits carrying a trinket of little interest.

      The Two Towers: Neither of Which Bombadil Lives In -- Goldberry makes tasty treats while Tom cleans his boots.

      The Return of the King: Someone Bombadil Thinks he Knows -- Tom and Old Man Willow discuss philosophy and sing songs. Some strange doings down south make the sky turn dark, but then it's all light again, and that calls for some drink! The end.

    4. Re:Sharkey and the Shire? by MixmastaKooz · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forgot:

      The Return of the King: Someone Bombadil Thinks he Knows -- Tom and Old Man Willow discuss philosophy and sing songs. Some strange doings down south make the sky turn dark, but then it's all light again, and that calls for some drink! And then I had a long chat with that wizard guy who changed his color scheme from grey to white. He must have went to that Versace shop in Moria. The end.

    5. Re:Sharkey and the Shire? by C0deM0nkey · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Bravo!

      I will probably be flamed into oblivion for saying this but I've never understood why some fans get so wound up over Tom Bombadil. I am currently more than half way through the 12-volume History of Middle-Earth (HOME) (I've completed volumes 1-4, 6, 7 and am more than half-way through volume 5. Volumes 6-8 deal with Lord of the Rings) and Bombadil did not factor into any of Tolkien's pre-LOTR Middle-Earth writings. Yes, there were a few poems and such that were written but these were outside the mythology and early history of Middle-Earth.

      Tom Bombadil always struck me as little-more than a deus ex machina and I've never particularly cared for him.

      From what I have read, Tolkien struggled to find a story to write (he was under pressure from his publisher to produce a Hobbit sequel) and did not have a strong grasp of what the tale would be until Elrond's Council (which, I believe, explains why the story got very focused after that point). The material prior to the Council, in my opinion, reflects this struggle to find a story. Do not mistake me, the Old Forest and the Barrow-Wights were cool [book] scenes that did turn out to serve a purpose later but, as Jackson has demonstrated, they could easily be written out (e.g. replace Barrow-Wight (Numenorean/Dunedain?) blades with Noldoli daggers given by Galadriel, remove Old Forest and explain that trees could be more than just silent stalks of wood in Fangorn, etc.)

      If you are an aspiring fantasy author, like critical analysis or constructed languages or if you would simply enjoy reading about the evolution of Middle-Earth, I would highly recommend the HOME books. They are not for the non-Middle-Earth geek; I've tried getting other people to read them and so far I've failed - I think you really have to have an interest in Middle-Earth (as a literary creation) in order to tolerate reading and re-reading the same stories over and over as they are emended from draft to draft. I've read and re-read versions of the Silmarillion (the Quenta, the Silmarillion, the Quenta-Silmarillion, *must...keep...sanity*) so many times with so many minor changes that it is difficult, at times, to keep the canon straight from the evolving story.

    6. Re:Sharkey and the Shire? by DG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is, however, a side-effect of this whole "finding the story" process that you have (accurately) described.

      The tone of the book is very much "Hobbit" like in the first chapters, but as we wend our way towards Rivendell, the tone grows darker and more "adult".

      This winds up mirroring a similar journey for the hobbits, who start off as childlike and neive (like the tone) but get much more worldly as they get exposed to the real world.

      Bombadil works in the book, because he shows up near the start when the hobbits are still in juvenile fairy-tale mode. If he were a denizen of Ithlien, he would seem jarring and out of place.

      And I agree that it made perfect sense to cut him from the movie.

      DG

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  15. Re:Already ordered it! by artemis67 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ask and ye shall receive.

    Looks like it's coming out December 14th, same day that ROTK:EE ships.

  16. Need a torrent link please! by rsletten · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Bah, why bother try downloading without a torrent. Anyone got a torrent link?

  17. With 20 extra minutes of carrying Frodo by suso · · Score: 4, Funny

    See them carry Frodo in ways you didn't see in the theater.

  18. Not the first and won't be the last to say this... by Malfourmed · · Score: 4, Funny

    LOTR: ROTK Extended Edition: Now with even more endings!

  19. Re:Extended Edition Screening by BDaniels · · Score: 2, Informative

    Um. No. That was the theater showings last year before the theatrical release of RotK. (Hint: check the expiration date on the poster offer).

  20. Re:Already ordered it! by beuges · · Score: 2, Informative
  21. Re:EE by Per+Abich · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, but as Return of the King: Enterprise Edition ;-)

  22. Water scenes by catalupus · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hope the extra 50 minutes comes BEFORE the part where Mr Jackson decided to have 3 false endings with lots of running water going on. Evil, Evil, Evil....

  23. Re:Already ordered it! by static0verdrive · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nope. (Actually it's Minas Tirith, not Thirit...) Saruman lived at Orthanc, the tower at Isengard. Check out this list of towers for a better understanding.

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  24. 11 hours and 20 minutes by wiredog · · Score: 2, Funny

    My ass gets numb just thinking about that. Might be good for a NYC to Tokyo flight, however.

  25. Jackson has totally changed everything again! by sgant · · Score: 5, Funny

    Added scene showing Sauron (digitally placed in over an actor), talking to Denethor inside the olephant hanger.

    Changed the title to "Revenge of the King"

    Totally changes the concept of The Ring. In this changed version they explain that everyone has Rings inside of them, yet Frodo is a special case because he has extra Rings inside making him the most powerful Ring Bearer ever.

    Now Sauroman shoots first!

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    1. Re:Jackson has totally changed everything again! by f0rt0r · · Score: 2, Funny

      In addition, all weapons have been replaced with walkie-talkies ( pacify anti-war activists ), horses are replaced with broomsticks ( pacify animal-rights activists ),and hobbits are now the same height as everyone else ( pacify midget-rights activists ).

      Finally, the title has been changed to "Return of the Ring",with the word "King" replaced by "popularly elected representative of the people" thoughout the movies dialogues. This is to pacify groups that felt the movie threatened democracy by glorifying the monarchy type of government.

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  26. Re:Gandalf -v- Saruman??? by Ubergrendle · · Score: 3, Informative

    The scouring of the shrie is NOT in the EE due to dramatic pacing for the big screen (according to Jackson) ~and~ considerations regarding length.

    SPOILER

    Until I see the movie I can't say for sure, but likely Wormtongue will still be the one to kill off Saurman. And instead of the Hobbit milita shooting down Wormtongue, it will probably be numerous unnamed Rohan horseriders(sp).

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  27. Re:Realtime by vidarh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm really curious as to what would be a typical average reading speed for a native English speaker. For me it's my second language, and I don't have much problem with +/- 100 pages an hour depending on typesetting and language, and provided I start out reasonably rested. My fiancee who grew up speaking English reads a lot faster. I wouldn't be at all surprised if she could finish LOTR in 7-8 hours and still remember it better than me.

  28. Re:Not the first and won't be the last to say this by gameboyhippo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Exactly! I went through an emotional roller coaster in the theater. "Ah! That was a great movie! ... No wait! There's more! Hey that was pretty good ... Huh!? There's more! Is this the end? Guess not... Hmmm... " And it went on like that for the last 7 hours of the movie. I was conflicted between wanting to learn more and wanting to relive myself at the restroom.

  29. Re:Realtime by fitten · · Score: 2, Informative

    I typically read at about 1 page per minute with a new book. At least, that's the estimate I use when considering a new book (hmmm... 300 pages, around 300 minutes of reading). I also tend to read and reread some parts to make sure I get what's going on.

    On books that I've read before (I rarely read any book twice, and very rarely read it more than twice... I can only think of three series that I've read more than twice) I can get a bit faster because it's more like jogging my memory instead of absorbing it the first time.

  30. Re:Already ordered it! by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Funny

    Check out this list of towers for a better understanding.

    Rubbish list. Doesn't mention any Fawlty Towers whatsoever... :-P

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  31. Re:I dunno.... by 10Ghz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, the extra scenes in the previous EE's were mostly NOT battle-scenes (were there ANY new battle-scenes in 'em?). So I have to ask: what the hell are you blathering about? Have you even seen the past EE's?

    Looking at "Fellowship of the Ring", I can remember these new scenes (found in the usenet):

    *A new addition to the opening sequence in which Bilbo provides background on Hobbits and their history in voice-over as he writes his memoirs.

    *A new introduction to Samwise Gamgee, seen in his capacity as a gardener.

    *A scene taking place at the Green Dragon Inn, which introduces us to the camaraderie of the Hobbits (we see them singing together) and sets up the geopolitics of the story.

    *The Hobbits witnessing the departure of the Elves from Middle Earth on the way to Bree.

    *Aragorn watching over the sleeping Hobbits, singing the ballad of Beren and Luthien to himself in the night.

    *Aragorn at his mother's grave, in which we learn that he was raised by Elves and that Sauron has long hunted him.

    *Two new moments during the departure from Rivendale, one in which we see Arwen's emotional reaction to Aragorn's leaving, and another in which Elrond sees the Fellowship off.

    *A scene with the Fellowship in the mines of Moria, in which we learn how the Dwarves themselves unleashed the fire-demon that eventually destroyed them.

    *A scene at Lothlorien, where Galadriel bestows upon each of the Fellowship a gift which will play an important role later in the Trilogy.

    *And finally, more footage of the battle at Amon Hen. This is not particularly bloody footage, but its addition will likely result in this cut
    of the film receiving an R-rating.

    Oh yes, that's LOTS of "new battle-scenes"! NOT!

    Two Towers is similar. Very little battle-scenes, but lots of background material.

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  32. What? by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 4, Funny


    I can hear a thousand wives screaming out in agony....

    "Get to the mountain you little bastards! ARrrgh! You picked this? Alright, I get THREE picks for this one!"

    1. Re:What? by Kosi · · Score: 2, Funny

      I miss the point here completely. Would someone please be so kind to explain the fun in the parent to me?

  33. RoTK with the good bits restored (finally!) by mihalis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I just don't understand how Peter Jackson thought the following were optional :-

    • Gandalf/Saruman rematch at Orthanc
    • Aragorn reveals himself in Palantir of Orthanc
    • Gandalf confronts Witch-King at Minas Tirith
    • Voice of Sauron at the Black Gate

    Luckily they are ALL in the EE! I can't wait

    1. Re:RoTK with the good bits restored (finally!) by limabone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I doubt he cut them out of the movie without alot of soul searching. Of those 4 scenes I would say that only the mouth of Sauron and Aragorn revealing himself to sauron should have remained in the movie (theatrical version). Aragorn revealing himself to Sauron puts the seed of doubt in Saurons mind and kept his gaze more focused on the black gate than searching for the ring (he probably assumes that Aragorn actually has the ring, since I believe it either explains in the book or the appendices that Sauron's contempt for the free people of Middle Earth that anyone would consider actually destroying the ring).
      The mouth of Sauron scene is critical because it makes it more emotional in that Sauron wants them to believe that the spy has been captured and killed, but Gandalf uses this information against Sauron because of Frodo had truly been captured Sauron would have the ring already and they wouldn't even be having that conversation. It also makes the scene in the theatrical version make more sense when Aragorn turns to face his army and looks like he has been crying and says 'For Frodo' or something like that.

      Gandalf and Saruman meeting doesn't really do much..Saruman's part in the main storyline is already over (the scouring of the shire is a great part of the book but absolutely unnecessary in the movie, the same way Tom Bombadils section is beautiful, but doesn't bring the plot forward or develop any of the main characters).
      Gandalf meeting the witch king at Minas Tirith is pure geek fodder but doesn't do much for the story as a whole.
      I just want Peter Jackson to do The Hobbit while he is still on the A-List. If King Kong bombs he might do it to regain his cache in Hollywood, or conversly if King Kong is a success they might throw so much damn money at him for the hobbit that he can't refuse!

    2. Re:RoTK with the good bits restored (finally!) by mihalis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Here's how these good bits could have made it into RoTK cinematic release easily :

      Put Shelob back into the Two Towers where she belongs. By the end of that book, Sam is lying senseless outside the orc stronghold and Frodo has been taken by the enemy. That would have been a fine ending for the film.

      Find the time for this, in turn, by drastically shortening the Helms Deep stuff. It's dull.

      You can dump the Aragorn falls off a cliff guff too.

      See, easy-peasy!

      Disclaimer : IHNDMOEHM (I have not directed my own 11 hour movie)

  34. Re:BLADOW! by harrkev · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is why I don't buy movies anymore. They always release something 'bigger and better' than the one before just to make bigger bucks... Pretty pathetic I think!

    I feel the same way about science. I thought that Newton was great, and then this Einstein guy came along. Out goes Newton. Then, this whole "quantum" thing came along. Now everybody is talking about "strings" but even if you use dental floss, those strings are still not small enough to make up all matter. For that matter, even thread is too big. If a string is made of atoms, and atoms are made of strings, where does it stop. I have gone back to Newton as the ultimate authority, and I am sticking with Newton until the final theory of everything comes out.

    OK. The above post is meant to be humorous. But there is a point. If you like a movie, then buy it. If you suspect that a better version MIGHT come along, then wait. Most movies are only released once. It seems like only the mega-blockbusters come out in more than one version (Terminator, Star Wars, LOTR, etc.) Have you seen an extended director's cut of Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. So buy movies, and have fun!
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  35. This would be the second. by rdunnell · · Score: 4, Informative

    The original theatrical version was released (3 parts) and this is the third part of the director's cut.

    Not really milking... they announced up front that they would have both editions, so people would know whether they wanted the original or wanted to wait for the extended.

  36. Enterprise Edition by ry4an · · Score: 3, Funny

    I just read that a Return of the King: Enterprise Edition. I've been doing this software thing for way too long.

  37. Strangely enough, but... by tarsi210 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Background: I am a rabid LOTR fan, have been since I first read the trilogy when I was 11. I went to the midnight showings of each of the three movies and own the EEs of each of the first two.

    I've only seen ROTK once. In the theatre, at midnight.

    I'm not entirely sure why, really, because I loved it. I *shivered* as the movie started from the sheer excitement of it all. The world disappeared as I watched, fully captivated by PJ's amazing artistry.

    But, I think I'm waiting. I think I'm waiting for those pieces that will really complete the movie the way PJ really intended it to be and yet was hampered by the movie industry. Character development? Hell yes! Give me more of it. I want to see more of what makes each of them tick. Eowyn's character -- only touched upon, with so much depth left to explore. I want to see those little nuances that only the avid fans of the book will catch. I want to see the vision as it was intended.

    I don't agree with everything PJ has done to the story itself, but I give him his leeway given what he had to try to accomplish. But if I'm going to bother seeing it, I want to see it the way he wanted me to.

    Right now, I'm planning an all-day marathon to watch all three EEs in a row with my ex-roommate. I think I shall shiver again.

  38. You call yourself a couch potato? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not very hobbit-ish of you. The proper sequence is:

    First breakfast
    FOTR disk 1
    Second breakfast
    FOTR disk 2
    Elevenses
    TT 1
    Luncheon
    TT 2
    Afternoon tea
    ROTK 1
    Supper
    ROTK 2
    Stomach pumping.

  39. Things I got from the trailer: by dswensen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I love Sean Astin. He is such a movie nerd, and so unabashedly enthusiastic about what he's doing. On the commentary and in the interviews, he's kind of dorky, but I just can't help but dig him.

    Gandalf's confrontation with the Witch-King gives me chills just from the trailer. I am so excited about that.

    I once again have to hand it to Andy Serkis for having to spend so much time in that goofy-looking blue-screen outfit, give a great performance, and then be essentially removed from the film digitally. Serkis is awesome.

    Looks like Merry gets to fight Sloth! "Baby Ruth! Baby Ruth!"

  40. Re:Not the first and won't be the last to say this by SnapShot · · Score: 2, Funny

    Also, including the new comedy short LOTR:ROTF (LMAO)

    --
    Waltz, nymph, for quick jigs vex Bud.
  41. Same feelings... by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I loved the third movie more than any of them, but like you I only saw it once... it just makes sense to wait and see the thing in as complete a state as possible. From watching the video it seems like a good choice as there have been many fantastic momets from the book added back in!

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  42. Re:Massive super box edition by EmagGeek · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes. You can buy it on Amazon.com for $77.98...

  43. Re:Realtime by Feanturi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Years ago I read it out loud, to a girlfriend who was into fantasy but had never picked up Tolkien. I took it upon myself to make sure she was introduced properly. It took us almost exactly a month, reading every day for hours each day after work. Very satisfying experience for both of us. She went and got her own copy the day after we finished so she could read it again herself, and did so twice more in succession at that time. The experience really 'took'. The slower pace of reading aloud, combined with doing character voices and such, made it the most enjoyable reading of that story I'd ever done, before or since. I would be reaching the end of a chapter, and be hoping she'd want to let me go on, and on the other side she would be hoping I could keep going, at least one more chapter tonight please? I highly recommend this activity, if you have a listener that can stay patiently listening.

    I can read in my head very quickly, but usually prefer not to. Unless I'm trying to study something, that I will fly through. For me it's not just about retaining what happened, that's easy, but savoring an experience takes more time. It is not enough for me to remember later that such and such happened in the story. To me it feels like reading fast just leaves me with access to memories of stored information. Taking the time to fully savor what is happening, pacing one's progress through a scene closer to the real-time of the characters, leaves me with memories of an experience that I actually lived through.