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ICANN Approves Two More Top-Level Domains

Cpyder writes "ICANN has decided to go forward with the implementation of two new top level domains, namely .mobi (for mobile use, sponsored by Nokia and T-Mobile) and .jobs (for job sites). The ICANN Board meetings regarding the approval are available. It is not yet known when these domains will be available for registration, as this decision merely starts the technical and business negotiations for terms under which these domains will be registered. Normally the domains should become active somewhere next year. Several other new TLDs are still up for discussion. These include .asia, .mail, .tel and .xxx. Last October, ICANN approved .travel and .post. More on these new TLDs at PCWorld and Google News."

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  1. Death of the . but Keywords live on by slashnutt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ICANN can give .* extensions and one day people are going to abandon that idea and start using AOL keywords type of scheme.

    Now we'll have whitehouse.gov - the real one, whitehouse.com - the sexy one, whitehouse.mobi - while Clinton was sleeping on the couch, whitehouse.sux - advocate site for the Whitehouse, whitehouse.net - no not Watergate, whitehouse.letsmakeanewdotextentiontomakemoremoney - An example of how the ICANN just makes up new dot names to generate more revenue as a businesses don't want customers to confuse extensions with a competing web squatter.

    Have you noticed that people have already ceased using www. on most advertisements? At least my domain the www is optional, as most other websites have adopted this too.

    1. Re:Death of the . but Keywords live on by timster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The "www" prefix is pretty obsolete anyway, and hearkens back to an era when a given domain name likely represented a specific computer. Nowadays people typing in pointless prefixes probably costs the economy like a billion dollars a year.

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    2. Re:Death of the . but Keywords live on by c4seyj0nes · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ICANN can give .* extensions and one day people are going to abandon that idea and start using AOL keywords type of scheme.

      Yeah, its called Google

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    3. Re:Death of the . but Keywords live on by SavoWood · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Have you noticed that people have already ceased using www. on most advertisements? At least my domain the www is optional, as most other websites have adopted this too.

      A lot of this drop has to do with the language. In Germany, I still hear "vay vay vay punkt irgendwas punkt day eh" where in the US, it takes about three weeks to stumble through "double-you double-you double-you dot something dot com". It's mostly because the professional speakers hate to pronounce the "w" incorrectly and sound like an uneducated backwoods hick.

      I've been saying "triple double-you" for years, and I occasionally hear it on ads. I often hear students saying "dub dub dub", and it drives me crazy. It's laziness in speech mostly.

      With a little practice, you can say each "w" completely. Most of us have been speaking English for decades. Something as simple as a single letter of the alphabet, the same letter you sing correctly in that inane song, shouldn't be that difficult.

      I also notice the mispronunciation more in the southern states. How is it the southern dialect can drop complete syllables from some words and add syllables to others? It's like the old joke about why the pregnancy rate is so high in the south. (It's because it takes the girls so long to say "kuh-wheeeee-uuuuht.")

      I guess it comes down to, "Just because the President can't say the letter right, doesn't mean you shouldn't."

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  2. Steve? by martingunnarsson · · Score: 5, Funny

    steve.jobs I say no more!

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    1. Re:Steve? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was going for "blow"...

  3. For Mobiles... by TarrVetus · · Score: 3, Funny

    ".mobi," in reference to the Mobius Strip, representing the eternal stream of pop-up ads that will assault the cell users that try to access those sites.

  4. needs inforcement by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What is the point of these extra sites? Well .mobi makes since so mobile devices can talk to each other without filling up valuable .com domains or forcing calling a static IP Address. But for .jobs and the others. Nobody when they are looking for a job will try jobs.job they will still go to .com The only ways this can work properly is force people to use the correct Top-Level Domains. All Commercial Enterprise must use .com All Educational must use.EDU all job sites must use .jobs and not use .COM/.ORG That is the only way to get these to be useful, is to force proper use of top level domains. .COM is the standard for everything and that is what people will try.

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    1. Re:needs inforcement by denis-The-menace · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is that Monster.com is both a commercial enterprise and a job site. So which do you pick?
      Monster.jobs of course!
      The practical reason why you would want more TLDs is to help people find stuff and offload the .COM TLD.
      To make this work you would have to stop using the .COM addresses for sites that should use the new TLDs.
      Problem: Lawyers will prevent that.
      Even the pr0n sites would want to keep their .COM addresses so that they can get customers where the .xxx TLD would be banned.

      The whole thing is pointless unless you remove the lawyers from the process.

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    2. Re:needs inforcement by Spydr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well .mobi makes since so mobile devices can talk to each other without filling up valuable .com domains or forcing calling a static IP Address.

      actually no..

      should we start making top level domains for every new device that comes out? that's not how the internet works... you have a user agent profile and user agent string that every device sends to your web server, and that is how that should be handled, not with a top level domain name.

      should there be .laptop and .newton or .automobile when my car gets a computer in it? maybe .toaster and .stove for my kitchen?

      the .mobi name is rediculous and completely useless, and will just end up costing businesses more money who want to control their brand names and now have to register more domain names to do so.

  5. I get mobi... by terraformer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...But why .jobs? That makes no sense as job sites are just commerce sites.

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  6. For unemployed porn stars... by SoTuA · · Score: 5, Funny

    "www.blow.jobs"

  7. .mobi? by twofidyKidd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I guess they thought .mob just didn't have a friendly ring to it. And why are they getting longer? I tell you, in two years time, we'll be seeing .internetwebsite and .ecommerce. Idjits...

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  8. I still dont by odano · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I still dont think any companies are going to be giving up the .com website. It just has so much marketing built into it.

    I still lose credability for a site if it is .biz or some other imitiation. I am aware that this is just a subjective opinion, but I doubt I am the only one who feels this way, and I still think .com will never be touched as far as the most popular suffix.

  9. Re:.mobi? why the i? by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    .mob is reserved for organized crime circuits.

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  10. Call me Ishmael ... by YetAnotherName · · Score: 5, Funny

    Call me, Ishmael, using our new cell phone service, on the web at www.dick.mobi.

  11. regular expression validation, by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 2, Informative

    Alright all you web dev's, time to go in and add two more possible TLD's for validating email address ;)

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  12. Need a change... by alexre1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The whole idea of TLDs worked really well over the past few years, but I think its time for a fundamental change in internet addressing. If ICANN just keeps adding new TLDs, they'll accomplish nothing other than to confuse most consumers. Remembering .com/.net/.info/.biz/.mobi/.mail/... probably won't be an issue to most /. users, but I think the vast majority of internet users are going to start getting very confused, very fast.

    Maybe we can solicit an "Ask Slashdot" question about alternatives to the TLD problem? What alternatives do you see as being feasible, practicable, and easy on the average end user?

  13. Re:flop waiting to happen? by 68kmac · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Erm, .tv is a country TLD ...

    And .biz is actually useful - for recognizing spam :-)

  14. Next up - .bob by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Funny

    And in keeping with the "terribly useless overly specific domains that nobody needs", the next domains ICANN'T will be announcing are:
    .bob for people named Bob .troll For 99% of the /. readership's homepage .linkfarm For Googlewhacking .lefty For left-handed people's web pages .cheese For cheese-related sites

  15. WHY? WHY? WHY? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It's obvious anyone at ICANN ever heard of balanced trees and binary searches. If you want to create a useful TLD, figure out what half the current .com domains have in common and make something that relates to that (maybe that's what .xxx is for?). .jobs clearly does not achieve that goal.

    I can think of dice.jobs, guru.jobs, and hot.jobs and not a whole lot else. What does that do to effectively partition the .com uber-TLD?

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  16. TLDs are Losing Their Meaning by Seanasy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There was time when TLD meant something. You knew a .com was a company, a .org was a non-profit, a .net was service provider etc. Now a .org or .net can be any old profit-driven site selling anything. All these new TLDs are just pointless. .mobi?

    And they're not domains anymore. They're vanity plates. A domain used to mean a bunch of computers that were connected and administered as a group. Now, it's a website.

    I'm afraid it's just going to get more confusing.

  17. Re:Death of the . but by paroneayea · · Score: 2, Funny

    Never! The .but extension will never die!

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  18. Re:WHY? WHY? WHY? by titusjan · · Score: 4, Funny

    It will be explained soon here.

  19. OpenNIC by Kidbro · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah, I'm off topic, but any story about ICANN's nonsense is a good place to post a link to OpenNIC.

  20. Re:.mobi? why the i? by Crimsane · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think all TLD's should follow this example and adopt an "i" at the end, it just makes the most sense if you think about it.

    For example, i could register the following domains:

    i-want-an.orgi
    you-are-a-filthy.comi
    lets-get.bizi

  21. Re:just what we need... by BJZQ8 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Perhaps an entire .goatse domain? Let me be the first to propose this to ICANN. Just think of the commercial possibilities! Goatse-branded hemmerhoidal creams, goatse cheese, goatse cola...the list goes on and on.

  22. Re:WHY? WHY? WHY? by affliction · · Score: 2, Funny

    blow.jobs should be fun though.

  23. Expanded TLDs already meaningless by swb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The bulk of userspace never knew what .com, .net, and .org meant and still don't. All they ever knew was that the web site address wasn't complete unless it ended in one of those names, and usually just .com (kind of like they had to start with www. as well). The average user doesn't know what the new TLDs are and doesn't care, since nothing's leaving the big three.

    The intended purpose of expanding the namespace by adding new TLDs is both not necessary with the death of squatting and speculating as well as testy trademark holders lining up to register their names in any possible new TLDs, thus creating a scarcity in "good" 2nd level domain names in any new general purpose TLDs anyway.

    And its not like there are a bunch of organizations suddenly willing to abandon 2LD in "the big three" for a new TLD in something nobody knows or understands; at best they might register their existing 2LD in the new TLD if it was 100% spot-on accurate (eg, monster.jobs, for example).

    Nor are there a bunch of organizations saying "Gee, we have TLD that kind of matches our organization, maybe it's time to get on the intranets."

    The only reason I can see ICANN releasing new TLDs is to raise money by selling the "management rights" to a bunch of Verisign wannabees, who if they have any brains, will just sell out to Verisign's monopoly as soon as they can.

    But this strategy will only work a few more times for ICANN, because soon Verisign won't be interested in buying complete control of TLDs by proxy once the market is diluted enough.

  24. Classic classification mistake by ngunton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This attempt to "classify" website types more precisely using the TLD is a big mistake, because all classification schemes are fundamentally flawed. Whatever taxonomy you try to come up with, there will always be other ways to look at it, exceptions and other things that just don't "fit". For example, what if I have a website that has some jobs on it, and other classifieds, but isn't dedicated to jobs? Do I get the .com or the .jobs? Oh, I get it, I am supposed to just buy all the applicable domains (and, presumably, confuse my customers with a multitude of possible web addresses).

    Having the top level domain suffix be so specific is just a horribly simplistic way of trying to classify websites. Also, why can't they realize that the website owners themselves don't really want it. It just multiplies the number of domains you have to register in order to prevent confusion and squatters.

    If they want to fix something real, then how about the problem of all those domain names out there that have been registered simply to display a stupid "search page", with a message saying "this domain is for sale". I seem to remember in the early 1990's that if you didn't use a domain for a "valid purpose" then it simply got returned to the pool. It irritates me no end to think of a domain and check its availability, only to find some asshat registered it for no purpose but to sit on it and hope to squeeze some money out of someone who really wants to use it.

    If we were to free up all THOSE domains then that would be a helluva lot more useful to the internet than new TLDs. And isn't ICAAN sposed to be looking after the interests of the internet, rather than simply representing business interests?

  25. Re:.mobi? why the i? by pla · · Score: 4, Funny

    .mob is reserved for organized crime circuits.

    What, they wanted more than just ".gov"? Greedy bastards!

    Oh, you must have meant the corporate organized crime folks, unhappy with the progressive dilution of ".com".

    Okay, gotcha, I see the idea now.

  26. Maybe I am that stupid. by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 2, Funny
    Maybe not. I'll ask my "helper monkey", he types this stuff for me.

    Next I will go visit http://whack.jobs and see if my picture has made it to the contributor-of-the-month spot!

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  27. VC phone home by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    " sponsored by Nokia and T-Mobile"

    What the hell is ICANN doing endorsing two private companies in the root domain servers? Is the control of mobile devices now to be defined by these two partnering competitors in the vastly important mobile communications industry, on behalf of the global public supposedly served by ICANN? Now we see why it takes ICANN so long to approve domains: telcos take time to complete their bribe negotiations with such a distributed organization of crooks as ICANN. Maybe I can bootstrap a deal with Larry Flynt to buy control of .xxx , and deprioritize lookups for penthouse.xxx . At least Larry's got a sense of humor, and tasty perks - these telcos are just about the cold, hard cash.

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  28. .mobi unsafe at any speed says TB-L by wombatmobile · · Score: 2, Interesting

    .

    A separate domain for mobile device access is directly contrary of what the W3C is working towards with web standards.

    Says Tim Berners-Lee.

  29. Re:WHY? WHY? WHY? by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Funny

    whack.jobs
    nut.jobs
    outsourcing.jobs
    rim.jobs

  30. Re:WHY? WHY? WHY? by Carlos+Laviola · · Score: 2, Funny

    steve.jobs

  31. Who's gonna get there first? by Avatar889 · · Score: 2, Funny

    How long until somebody registers blow.jobs? And do you think that Steve.jobs will have rights to his name?

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  32. TLDs to remove by Animats · · Score: 2, Informative
    We need to get rid of some TLDs.
    • .gov Migrate to .gov.us
    • .mil Migrate to .mil.us
    • .museum Remove due to underutilization.
    • .biz Slum clearance.

    If ".biz" is kept, the registration requirements for ".com" should be tightened, so that to get into ".com", you have to have a corporation, a DUNS number, or a business license, with that data in WHOIS. Then the slimeballs can be migrated to ".biz".

  33. Re:WHY? WHY? WHY? by Wraithlyn · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've always thought a .xxx TLD would be a great idea. Then make all porn sites use it, and presto, you have a perfect and simple porn filter.

    Cuz ya know, we have to think of the children. ;P

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  34. .com, .scr, .exe, .vbs by IchBinEinPenguin · · Score: 2, Informative

    the similarity between the .com domain and the .com executable has been exploited in recent email-worms.

    At the rate TLD's are being added how long before more such problems arise?
    How long before users simply click on this stuff, assuming that .url is simple another TLD?