Aren't scientists allowed to work on projects of lesser importance until all important problems are solved? If not, the ultimate consequence would be that we compile a list of all problems, sort them and don't start working on number 2 until we've solved number 1.
Secondly it is not as if nothing has been accomplished in cancer research. In the begining of the 20th century having cancer meant a certain death, these days you have a chance depending on the kind of cancer and how far it has progessed. Let's face it, cancer is hard to cure.
An finally you (and others in this thread) seem to think that baldness and erectily dysfunctions are minor problems. Having a problem like that can have a severe inpact on your chances of reproducing so I'd say they're no minor issues.
Not that I'm actually thinking of leaving job my job or taking up a geology study, but geology does interest me. So I'm curious: why is the demand for geologist growing? Is this in the industry or at universities?
Seriously, it's two thousand goddamn seven, the "What is this X the article speaks of?" thing is OVER. You're on the fucking Internet, go to Google or Wikipedia and do five seconds of research. ... and act like you're an expert on the matter, like the rest of us!
I still have this idea of writing a shell script that mails me every hour the output of ifconfig and a traceroute to a box at my company.
Something like:
ifconfig | mail -s ifconfig me@mycompany.com traceroute www.mycompany.com | mail -s traceroute me@mycompany.com
And then put it in the crontab of my powerbook under an unsuspicious name.
Allthough this is not nearly as sophisticated as your project, it's better than nothing. I think there are a lot of morons that would steal a laptop and connect it to the internet without reinstalling the OS.
I'm not sure if mail is the best way to do this. You'd have to have an smtp server that accepts mail from every location, and a procmail filter would be convenient. Any other thoughts?
P.S. any links to you're software yet? Will it be opensource?
Yegg, more bloat. Stupid idea to let people code in XML.
Shows that the poster didn't bother to RTFA. Of course you're not supposed to code directly in XML. XML is not very human readable. It is, however, easy for a machine to parse. The programs are stored in XML, programming stays more or less the same.
What does this do that I can't allready do in C?
The point of the article is that programmers should stop thinking of their code as a stream of characters but treat it like a tree. For example, when I want to change all the name of a function, tools like grep and sed don't suffice because they can't tell if a string belongs to a function call, comment or literal. A refactoring tool needs to know the structure of the program. Of course there are allready tools that are capable of this (Eclipse?), but they are in fact a partial compiler. Why not get rid of this duplication? If a language gives you easy access to the abstract syntax tree everyone can write his own refactoring tools in a minute.
Another way to look at it is this. If you'd have to design a data format to store an abstract syntax tree that is flexible and can last a few decades, would you come up with the following?
for (int i=0; i < 10000; i++) { if (i<100) printf("%d\n", i); else printf("%f\n", i) };
Yet, this is how most abstract syntax trees are stored. You and I would probably define a format that represents the tree structure of the program more directly. This could be easily realized in XML.
The best known example of an extended language is C++ which originated as a "C with classes". Stroustrup added a feature to an existing language instead of writing one from scratch because this would have meant existing code had to be ported and the new language would suffered from the same problems as any immature language. The disadvantage of this approach is that of legacy mistakes like the declaration syntax in C. This particular problem would be non-existing in a language that was designed to be extended.
Bah, lisp can do this since 1950. When will people see the light?
IMHO never. A similar article from the same author was on slashdot earlier, in which he acknowleges that lisp can allready do this but also that lisp is waiting for a breakthrough for four decades. XML may not be the most elegant solution but it has the momentum.
The above mentioned article adresses some other objection people might have: e.g. that desiging a language is a difficult process because of the effects language constructs have on each other, and that therefore we shouldn't give this power to every high school student.
From the BBC: Modelling by colleagues in Switzerland shows that such a landslide could trigger a so-called mega-tsunami, which has an initial wave height of 650 metres (2,130 feet) and moves out over the ocean at speeds up to 720 km/h (450 mph).
By the time such a wave crossed the Atlantic, its power would have diminished but it could still wreak havoc up to 20 kilometres (12 miles) inland.
And from the Questions and Answers section:
Scientists also know that a collapse will not happen without any warning. They will be able to alert people to possible danger several weeks in advance.
So we've got a few weeks to move (several hundred million) people 20 kilometers. Still a huge operation but it should be possible.
Johnny stumbles to the bathroom to answer the call of nature using the household's amazing Matsushita-brand Smart Toilet, which automatically measures his weight, body fat, blood pressure and urine sugar and sends the results to the Sokko family physician via the Internet.
"Your urine contains traces of an illegal subtance. The bathroom door has been locked and the police has been notified. Please remain seated until they arrive.
Does anybody know what the origin is of the whole Churchill Schmurchill, Nasa Schmasa, etcetera schmetcetera thing? I believe it's pretty old but haven't found a reference (it's hard to google for such a thing).
IIRC the grand parent is refering to an interview with linux in the Revolution OS documentary. I can't find any links that provide quotes though.
Like ultrabot already mentioned, Linus doesn't use languages like python very often because his interests lie in kernal hacking or in small projects that can be done in bash. That doesn't mean that Linus doesn't like python.
Likewise I'm not sure what accounts for the large concentration of NO2 shown over the north of Italy. It looks like the Alps are generating a lot of pollution. That can't be right...
That is not the Alps but the Po-delta, the main industrial aera of Italy. Italy has an economy comparable in size to England or France so it is not so surprising.
Meanwhile, your kids will be off in their rooms, enjoying fully immersive virtual reality experiences -- who'd have thought homework could be such fun? Eventually, though, it'll be time for them to get ready for bed. Smart washcloths will make sure they clean everywhere, including behind their ears.
"Hey Mom, I'll be in my room uhh... doing my homework"
"Again? Please use your smart washcloth when you're finished this time. I don't want to have to clean up tomorrow when I'm uhh.. doing your laundry."
Well, if it isn't ObviousGuy, my old FP nemesis...
It's no use trying to hide your real intentions by posting at +5 interesting. That's the oldest trick in the book, it doesn't fool anybody.
You think you've gotten 10^7th post because of all that money invested in a highspeed connection and a 2 by 4 reload button. You just got lucky! In the end my skilzz will beat your daddies money.
Slashdot Mirror
A few minutes ago I got the 'This site may harm your computer.' warnings but it seems to be fixed now.
On slashdot there's always a karmawhore that creates a
continue...
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Insightful? My hiney!
Aren't scientists allowed to work on projects of lesser importance until all important problems are solved? If not, the ultimate consequence would be that we compile a list of all problems, sort them and don't start working on number 2 until we've solved number 1.
Secondly it is not as if nothing has been accomplished in cancer research. In the begining of the 20th century having cancer meant a certain death, these days you have a chance depending on the kind of cancer and how far it has progessed. Let's face it, cancer is hard to cure.
An finally you (and others in this thread) seem to think that baldness and erectily dysfunctions are minor problems. Having a problem like that can have a severe inpact on your chances of reproducing so I'd say they're no minor issues.
Not that I'm actually thinking of leaving job my job or taking up a geology study, but geology does interest me. So I'm curious: why is the demand for geologist growing? Is this in the industry or at universities?
Seriously, it's two thousand goddamn seven, the "What is this X the article speaks of?" thing is OVER. You're on the fucking Internet, go to Google or Wikipedia and do five seconds of research.
... and act like you're an expert on the matter, like the rest of us!
They put the B back in stable.
*thanks crowd, mentions he'll be here all week*
I've got the opposite. I haven't had mod points in a year. And yes, I've got the 'willing to moderate' box checked and positive karma.
Slashdot works in mysterious ways.
http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~sue/475/cruft.html
On second thought, better use netcat instead of mail.
Something like:And then put it in the crontab of my powerbook under an unsuspicious name.
Allthough this is not nearly as sophisticated as your project, it's better than nothing. I think there are a lot of morons that would steal a laptop and connect it to the internet without reinstalling the OS.
I'm not sure if mail is the best way to do this. You'd have to have an smtp server that accepts mail from every location, and a procmail filter would be convenient. Any other thoughts?
P.S. any links to you're software yet? Will it be opensource?
Yegg, more bloat. Stupid idea to let people code in XML.
Shows that the poster didn't bother to RTFA. Of course you're not supposed to code directly in XML. XML is not very human readable. It is, however, easy for a machine to parse. The programs are stored in XML, programming stays more or less the same.
What does this do that I can't allready do in C?
The point of the article is that programmers should stop thinking of their code as a stream of characters but treat it like a tree. For example, when I want to change all the name of a function, tools like grep and sed don't suffice because they can't tell if a string belongs to a function call, comment or literal. A refactoring tool needs to know the structure of the program. Of course there are allready tools that are capable of this (Eclipse?), but they are in fact a partial compiler. Why not get rid of this duplication? If a language gives you easy access to the abstract syntax tree everyone can write his own refactoring tools in a minute.
Another way to look at it is this. If you'd have to design a data format to store an abstract syntax tree that is flexible and can last a few decades, would you come up with the following?Yet, this is how most abstract syntax trees are stored. You and I would probably define a format that represents the tree structure of the program more directly. This could be easily realized in XML.
The best known example of an extended language is C++ which originated as a "C with classes". Stroustrup added a feature to an existing language instead of writing one from scratch because this would have meant existing code had to be ported and the new language would suffered from the same problems as any immature language. The disadvantage of this approach is that of legacy mistakes like the declaration syntax in C. This particular problem would be non-existing in a language that was designed to be extended.
Bah, lisp can do this since 1950. When will people see the light?
IMHO never. A similar article from the same author was on slashdot earlier, in which he acknowleges that lisp can allready do this but also that lisp is waiting for a breakthrough for four decades. XML may not be the most elegant solution but it has the momentum.
The above mentioned article adresses some other objection people might have: e.g. that desiging a language is a difficult process because of the effects language constructs have on each other, and that therefore we shouldn't give this power to every high school student.
From the BBC:
Modelling by colleagues in Switzerland shows that such a landslide could trigger a so-called mega-tsunami, which has an initial wave height of 650 metres (2,130 feet) and moves out over the ocean at speeds up to 720 km/h (450 mph).
By the time such a wave crossed the Atlantic, its power would have diminished but it could still wreak havoc up to 20 kilometres (12 miles) inland.
And from the Questions and Answers section:
Scientists also know that a collapse will not happen without any warning. They will be able to alert people to possible danger several weeks in advance.
So we've got a few weeks to move (several hundred million) people 20 kilometers. Still a huge operation but it should be possible.
It will be explained soon here.
Johnny stumbles to the bathroom to answer the call of nature using the household's amazing Matsushita-brand Smart Toilet, which automatically measures his weight, body fat, blood pressure and urine sugar and sends the results to the Sokko family physician via the Internet.
"Your urine contains traces of an illegal subtance. The bathroom door has been locked and the police has been notified. Please remain seated until they arrive.
Thank you for using Matsushita."
Does anybody know what the origin is of the whole Churchill Schmurchill, Nasa Schmasa, etcetera schmetcetera thing? I believe it's pretty old but haven't found a reference (it's hard to google for such a thing).
IIRC the grand parent is refering to an interview with linux in the Revolution OS documentary. I can't find any links that provide quotes though.
Like ultrabot already mentioned, Linus doesn't use languages like python very often because his interests lie in kernal hacking or in small projects that can be done in bash. That doesn't mean that Linus doesn't like python.
Whoohoo, makes me proud I was born there :-)
Haarlem has almost 150000 inhabitants so they save 3 euro per tax payer. Not bad.
here
Here's a secret people: if you're too cold, wear warming clothing!
Sinmce I weare gloves myu peroductrivity has douibled!@
Likewise I'm not sure what accounts for the large concentration of NO2 shown over the north of Italy. It looks like the Alps are generating a lot of pollution. That can't be right...
That is not the Alps but the Po-delta, the main industrial aera of Italy. Italy has an economy comparable in size to England or France so it is not so surprising.
There is even a Ford model named after it.
Meanwhile, your kids will be off in their rooms, enjoying fully immersive virtual reality experiences -- who'd have thought homework could be such fun? Eventually, though, it'll be time for them to get ready for bed. Smart washcloths will make sure they clean everywhere, including behind their ears.
"Hey Mom, I'll be in my room uhh... doing my homework"
"Again? Please use your smart washcloth when you're finished this time. I don't want to have to clean up tomorrow when I'm uhh.. doing your laundry."
Well, if it isn't ObviousGuy, my old FP nemesis...
It's no use trying to hide your real intentions by posting at +5 interesting. That's the oldest trick in the book, it doesn't fool anybody.
You think you've gotten 10^7th post because of all that money invested in a highspeed connection and a 2 by 4 reload button. You just got lucky! In the end my skilzz will beat your daddies money.
See you at 2^24th post.
Slashdot could be slashdotted.