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Animal Cloning Comes to Hollywood
Kate Thompson writes "A week after San Francisco's Genetic Savings and Clone revealed the sale of their first cat to a customer, the Boston Phoenix reports that GS & C acknowledges it has been hired by anonymous buyers in Hollywood to bank genes of show business animals."
They're already cloning all their scripts.
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They gonna clone Brad Pitt now?
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Seems breeding for specific roles is more likely to be productive then depending on genetics. If animals are anything like people, success often is followed by sloth.
That is, if they ever decide to make one. For the first two, they had to use a LOT of pigs, because they only look that cute for the first week or so of their lives.
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I think that some of these animals are pretty 'talented' and it maybe hard to find an animal (like a movie bear or something) which has the potential to learn well and has the right 'personality'. Cloning the ones that just died ensures you that at least the animal is capable of learning the stuff you want to teach it.
I am not bothered about the whole cloning issue, I think it is an inevitable thing, also with humans.
Just because the cloned animal has exactly the same genes, doesn't mean that it will exhibit the same behaviour.
The dog that played Benji might have had an ideal temperament for filming, but it's clone, brought up slightly differently might be a right little ankle biter.
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You can clone the animal, but not the intensive training required for participation in show business.
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So that they can keep the cute dog in the TV show sitcom alive for all 30 seasons.
What I can't wait for is when Fluffy Clone #2726A flips out and eats the cute wisecracking kid.
Bet they can't clone him....
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Does this say something for originality, and the fear of showbusiness people that their talent and success is all wrapped up on the abilities of one cat, dog, pig, britney, whatever?
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Does this deserve to be on the slashdot front page? This has to be one of the stupidest ideas I've heard of. Several thousands dollars to get an animal that MIGHT look the same but will not act the same, as opposed to a few hundred dollars to have a trained animal's fur died to match the original.
U can bet the Osbournes will never again run low on 4 legged $hit spreaders.. and there must be plently of others who would be up for keeping their own pets forever.. that'll be where the money's at for the service...
All those dogs and cats in the Homeward Bound movies can now carry on the legacy for generations to come! Rejoice!
Now if they could only clone certain entertainers faces after getting mauled...
So what happens when the clone starts having flashbacks of a time when his predecessor accidentally killed a prostitute and burned down the motel to cover up the crime?
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The other problem is that, as we found with "Dolly the Sheep", cloned animals are inherently pretty unhealthy, because their cells age a lot faster (lies to children explanation). At two years old, Dolly had a lot of problems that would really only crop up in a much older animal, presumably because the cell's genetic "clock" was not "reset" (LTC again).
Still, nice work if you can get it. Who's going to tell the difference, even if the animals are *not* cloned?
let's clone a new one!
they had to use a LOT of pigs, because they only look that cute for the first week or so of their lives.
And in what way precisely is cloning going to address this issue?
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This might actually be a good thing, it could help us realise just how much personality and talent is dependent of exo-genetic development. I.E. does our DNA make us vote for retards like GWB or is it down to all the adatives in our food and the utter crap we watch on TV as kids?
By the time this cloning technology gets off the ground, it will be easier/cheaper to replicate the animal with CGI.
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While selling back a physical looking animal will bring in a fair chunk of change, and really how big can that market be. How much work would they have to do to make a benji next year, the main thing would be the breed and same hair color and pattern ; thoses can be changed by dye and makeup.
Where the big money will be is selling clones to the public. When a popular show/movie has a animal the sales of that animal almost aways increases. For example when the comedy Fraiser was on the air the Jack Russell terrier rose in popularity in the each year(in 2000 along by 21%). Now instead of purchasing any Jack Russell terrier you can purchase a clone of the actual one on the show. How much do you think people would pay for that?
Granted costs will have to come down ALOT, but if you are thinking for the future this is the way to go.
for a second i was hoping that news outlets had picked up the think about your breathing troll :(
Now, if Peter Jackson had been able to clone 100,000 copies of my wife he'd have had his Orc army without needing special effects.
...he took AOTC too literally.
Q: What is the DNA and how does it work?
A: DNA is the copy protection system adopted by nature to provide security to copyrighted content of animals and to prevent unauthorized copying of that content. DNA is akin to the lock on your house.
Anticipating what digital technology meant for anti-piracy efforts, nature relied on the security provided by DNA in manufacturing, producing and distributing to the public copyrighted animals. Those animals, many of which involved investments of tens and even hundreds of millions of atoms, were distributed with DNA protection.
DNA allows consumers to enjoy the benefits of animals because nature is able to issue their animals while at the same time preventing massive piracy of their copyrighted works. De-encryption destroys this protection, which is why distribution of de-encryption devices were formally prohibited in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
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Whatever happened to the Georce Carlin way of getting your old pet again?
"The good thing about dogs is that they don't live too long...After a while, you can get a new dog - looks just like the old one. That way, you don't have to change any of your pictures. You go to the pet shop with a picture and say, 'Get me one a'dese!'"
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
it's only a matter of time now before they start cloning the Olsen Twins... not that i would object.
I can see it now...
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Genetic Savings & Clone are currently cloning cats for $50 000 - that's pretty cheap already compared to getting an effects house to create a photorealistic character. Sure, I havn't factored in the cost up bringing up the animal, but CGI is still comparatively expensive, and the results aren't always that believable - the best CGI effects work is typically on fictional characters (Gollum), where movements are a combination of motion capture and keyframing. You'd still need an animal to base movements on - I can't recall a recent film which had a believable CGI animal (that's a "realistic" animal, rather than a talking / exagerrated character). On a more practical front, I'm sure actors would actually prefer working with an animal (trouble that they may be), so they can realistically react to them - you just don't really get that with a CGI character (unless you get an actor to perform with the cast, and composite over. This may work for human like characters, but completely defeat the point for animals, because you'd still need one in the scene).
Scientifically, this could make for some interesting "nature vs. nurture" experiments.
Somebody mod this guy..umm.. or girl.. DOWN, please!!He's trying to steal copyrighted ideas from MPAA! Ever since the first DNA... bla bla
On topic: not only was Hollywood selling only movies (clones of player's performance), now the players themself'll be cloned!! But we know that cloning the clone... whatever
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Well, the pigs have to look all the same, don't they? Although to my eye they already do.
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I'm all for folks getting in on the cloning business. At the worst, it can't be more unethical than what many pet farms already are.
This provides a financial incentive to refine the technology and make the whole thing more acceptable and familiar to people. Animal breeding has fewer ethical restrictions than medical cloning, so there are fewer ethical roadblocks.
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Just wait until the dog from Fraiser out numbers normal Jack Russell terriers.
Why wait till your favourite animal asset dies before reinvesting? Just make another one, train em up and get two going at once!! Two Flippers filming at once! too easy. at 50 grand its only a matter of time (probably about 3 months)
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what the fuck is this
But my mates and I came up with the best use for genitic engineering (while stoned). Imagine minature animals of all species. How cool would it be to have little crocadiles in your fish tank say 10cm long. Little elephants and giraffes as pets. Awesome
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please! But DON'T clone her!
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Genebanking hollywood animals:
Now, finnaly that's a decent business plan...
we dont' say clone - we say body-double, you insensitive clod!
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Obviously by using clones they can use different pigs rather than trying to stop the aging process. The 'cloning' addresses the fact that they would need to look alike. dumbass.
1) Make clones of Jenna Jameson.
2) Remove the "dirty slut" gene, replacing it with a modified version of the "obedient wife" gene (which morphs back into the "dirty slut" gene when she's in the sack with her husband). It might not hurt to genetically enhance her breasts while your at it so she won't have to pay for them later.
3) Sell clones as mail order brides.
4) Profit!
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1) Make the movie ...
2) Clone for real a cat
3) Clone Schwartzenegger
4) Make Washington to approve the "6th day law"
5) In press release, say "see? even sci-fi movies we produce becomes real"
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7) Profit!
8) "The day after tomorrow" becomes real
Since people started playing with DNA, it's obvious that people could start cloning things that belong to somebody else.
Can you claim copyright on your pet?
We've heard plenty about Intellectual Property (IP), but what about Physical Property (PP)?
What if somebody cloned you? What legal issues could arise from this?
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I recently saw a TV-program about cloning pets. Cloned cats doesn't get the same pattern on the fur as the original. Some of the clones doesn't even get close to the same colour on the fur. In showbiz, shouldn't that make the clone useless?
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I'm too lazy to look it up, but there was at least one case of a subject in a research study sueing the researcher for a share of the profits of a genetically engineered treatment/product that was developed from his tissue samples.
I don't remember what the outcome was, but I suspect that nothing was clarified.
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Well the 2 make a great match. I mean hollywood to buy cloning and cloning is such a loved/hated technology. Atleast this can get the ball rolling. Hollywood has so much money behind it that it is also a great test market. We can eventually find out about cloning defects because hollywood is also one of the most watched industries. Well good luck to those who fork over their cash for a new tech. We all know how that goes. Every geek for his own.
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This is slightly OT, but if a star person was cloned, who would own the copywrite: the cloned star, or the star's estate/family?
They should be spending their money on promoting the idea of saving sheltered and stray animals. We don't need more puppy mills. We need to save the ones that are going to get killed tomorrow because they shopped at the puppy mill today. Pure breeds with papers should be down played while saving the sheltered should be turned into a status symbol. Hollywood could fuel this change if they wern't such pompus assholes.
I have an idea, Lets clone Britney so we can put Madonna "down".
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I doubt it... since YOU as a person did not create your pet (I seriously hope you did not genetically splice your pet), you merely own it, you cannot claim intellectual property rights. However, you may sue if they took samples of your pet without consent and develope something out of it. Not sure what the penalty is thou.
However, if someone clone you without your consent, then you can sue. I remember there's a law somewhere about tissue sample collection. It basically state that for someone to acquire your tissue, they must have your consent and inform you of the purpose of the collection before the collection takes place. However, the above does not apply if you "discard" your tissue (like a gauzz to cover a bleeding wound). Then I'm not sure if there's a law to cover that at all. However, in a jury trial I will seriously doubt that anyone will let this sort of thing happen even if there's no basis in law.
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Business Animals? You mean they're going to clone Jack Valenti?
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You don't count the cost of training the clone to behave like the original. That would run you up well over $50,000. Besides, once you've developed a CGI library of animals, the marginal cost of making an additional CGI "clone" is very low. You say "You'd still need an animal to base movements on" - well, same thing with a clone. You base the CGI animal on the original. Also, CGI technology is getting cheaper and better all the time. It's hard to imagine training costs for clones undergoing the same depreciation.
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Well, yes, I suppose. However I was referring to "ownership" in an "intellectual property" sense, not a "self-determination" sense. If we are going to discuss that, you forgot what is perhaps the biggest issue: slavery (in all its forms).
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