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Episode III Opening Crawl Released

moggyf writes "The official Star Wars website has revealed the opening crawler text for Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith, currently scheduled for a May 19th, 2005 release."

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  1. Okay, did anyone else.... by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... click on this article and get "Nothing to see here, move along..."?

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    1. Re:Okay, did anyone else.... by Basehart · · Score: 3, Funny

      I wonder if with all the last minute stuff going on at Lucas Film right now, whether anyone would notice if they forgot to make the opening titles crawl up the screen and just stuck that gif up there by accident.

      That would really put a dent in the look and feel of Star Wars III.

  2. In Case Of Slashdotting by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny
    In case of slashdotting, here's the original GIF:

    47 49 46 38 49 61 35 02 DC 02 C4 00 00 E0 E0 E0
    F0 F0 F0 10 10 10 D0 D0 D0 A0 A0 A0 30 30 30 20
    20 20 90 90 90 60 60 60 50 50 50 70 70 70 B0 B0
    B0 40 40 40 80 80 80 C0 C0 C0 00 00 00 FF FF FF
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 21 F9 04
    00 00 00 00 00 2C 00 00 00 00 35 02 DC 02 00 05
    FF 20 04 8E 64 69 9E 68 AA AE 6C EB BE 70 2C CF

    [Lameness Filter encountered. Post aborted.]

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  3. Thank goodness for the Internet by Staplerh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe this means that I'll see the Opening Crawl for Episode III before that poor bloke who started camping out in front of the theatre about a month ago!

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  4. Oh Dear. by bburton · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just pissed my pants from excitement.

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  5. General Grievous? by 10Ghz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    *sigh*

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    1. Re:General Grievous? by Xpilot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, he's the 2nd cousin twice removed of General Protection Fault.

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    2. Re:General Grievous? by grub · · Score: 2, Funny


      And his thugs Sergent Bodily and Captain Harm.

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    3. Re:General Grievous? by artemis67 · · Score: 3, Funny

      He's related to Major Fubar, isn't he?

    4. Re:General Grievous? by UWC · · Score: 4, Funny

      And Colonel Panic. Or something.

    5. Re:General Grievous? by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      So I'm guessing that you're one of those people that 25 years ago said, "Skywalker? How cheesy is that? Does he even think he's a native-American tribal hero?"

      Or are we again doomed to a thread where all that is holy and righteous was that which was Star Wars 4, 5, and 6. :-p

    6. Re:General Grievous? by dstewart · · Score: 5, Informative

      From the Star Wars Databank:

      "General Grievous was developed for Episode III as a powerful new villain on the side of the Confederacy. The initial instructions that Director George Lucas gave the Art Department were very open-ended: "a droid general." From that vague direction, the artists developed a lot of explorations, some purely mechanical, some not, for the look of General Grievous."

      He can be seen here engaged in heated battle with Earthworm Jim.

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    7. Re:General Grievous? by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm surrounded by assholes!

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    8. Re:General Grievous? by jcostantino · · Score: 4, Funny

      Isn't his son Corporal Punishment?

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    9. Re:General Grievous? by Khakionion · · Score: 2, Funny

      And nephew to Constable Flagrant System Error.

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    10. Re:General Grievous? by Bigthecat · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "General Grievous was developed for Episode III as a powerful new villain on the side of the Confederacy. The initial instructions that Director George Lucas gave the Art Department were very open-ended: "a droid general." From that vague direction, the artists developed a lot of explorations, some purely mechanical, some not, for the look of General Grievous."

      One would think that 'vague direction' and 'a lot of explorations' would come up with something innovative. But, as can be seen from the picture, what do we have?

      A droid, in the shape and likliness of a human, holding two lightsabers. I mean honestly! Put it together with the name 'General Grievous' (What is his taunt going to be? 'I HAVE A GRIEVANCE WITH YOU!!')

      And along with that, what shade of bullshit are they going to come up with for the reason a Jedi can't pull the cord out of it's head and disable it? Arrrgh!

      To think of the fine Star Wars books that could have been made with this money...

    11. Re:General Grievous? by OleMoudi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Every time some little detail about Episode III is revealed, people is always looking for catastrophical flaws at first sight and flashbacking to episode I.

      Seriously guys, if you try hard enough, you can easily see flaws in almost everything, even in the old trilogy. Try to imagine yourselves writing an opening crawler for episode III that couldn't be in some way criticised for any stupid elitist star wars zealot.

      Don't bury the movie till you see it

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    12. Re:General Grievous? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, hello Captain Obvious.

    13. Re:General Grievous? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Didn't Private Parts serve under him?

    14. Re:General Grievous? by bombadillo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My god, how fucking stupid can Lucas get?

      He can be as stupid as he wants. Just as long as we keep flocking to see his movies and making him millions...

    15. Re:General Grievous? by mmkkbb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      a robot MONKEY? george has been watching too much powerpuff girls...

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    16. Re:General Grievous? by GTRacer · · Score: 4, Informative
      Your retort is more insightful than you know...the Clone Wars shorts for Cartoon Network were directed by none other than PPG creator Genndy Tartakovski. Grievous is in it. He totally wails on some Jedi in a 3-on-1 battle. It's actually good stuff but I'm waiting to get the whole 20 5-minute episodes run together as one.

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    17. Re:General Grievous? by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Why would a proctologist be on /.?"

      He's still mad that you bit his finger.

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    18. Re:General Grievous? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Funny
      I assume you meant "kernel," but no: my intent was to provide the homophone "colonel" since it is a military rank and the accepted pronunciations of the two words are pretty much identical.

      Thank you, Captain Obvious!

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    19. Re:General Grievous? by CoreWalker · · Score: 3, Funny

      We have Darth Tyrenus, Darth Sidious, Darth Maul, General Grievous... what's next, Darth Meanie? Darth Badguy?
      I'm still convinced that Count Dooku is named as such just because it was as close to 'Count Poopie' that Lucas could get without being TOO obvious.

    20. Re:General Grievous? by Hyecee · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think you might be focusing on the wrong continuing cast. It's not necessarily the villains who are or should be continuous.

      All six movies do have a continuous cast: Vader (Anakin), the Emperor, Yoda and Obi Wan. The rest of the characters are really just a supporting cast for the main character.

      And the main character isn't always who you'd think it is. All 6 movies are really a biography of Vader, just told from different and varying points of view. Quite interesting idea, actually.

  6. General Grievous? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My god, how fucking stupid can Lucas get?

  7. thanks... by phyruxus · · Score: 3, Funny

    but meesa wait for the broadcast.

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  8. Not again! by wjames · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why does it sound like the story line to Episode I? Seriously, Kidnapped (Captured) Political Figure, Jedi go save her. They dont need to use the story line from Episode 4 all 4 times.

    1. Re:Not again! by emilymildew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not ties-in to EpIV that I'm looking for. Lucas already has too much *wink wink* about things. See also: "This is my girlfriend, Baru." "This is my robot, C3PO."

      He's breaking the things that he originally wrote to wink at the audience, and that's stupid.

      Dear George Lucas,

      learn subtlety.

      Love,
      emilymildew

    2. Re:Not again! by The-Bus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Did you not see the extended version of Episode I?

      At the end the Jedi defeats the evil koopa and then Padme comes out and she's all like,

      "Sorry, Jedi, but your Princess is in another castle."

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    3. Re:Not again! by nganju · · Score: 2, Funny

      Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Foreshadowing

      Can't get enough foreshadowing? Feel cheated because there wasn't a scene in Attack of the Clones where someone says "You're a pretty good Moff, Tarkin, but you're not quite a grand Moff"? Well, you're going to be happy with Episode III, because our sources inform us that there's going to be plenty more of the awkward, forced foreshadowing that filled the first two prequels! Check out this preview:

      "Golly, no one will ever make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs!"

      "If I ever have a son, I'd like him to have my lightsaber when he's old enough. But not to use against me!"

      "In local news, Mos Eisley has moved up to second-most wretched hive of scum and villany."

      "Okay, me and the rest of the Bothans will be back soon with the information! Don't worry, we won't die!"

      "Call me Ben. Obi-Wan is a name I hope not to hear again in a long time. A long time."

      "These new 'Scout Walkers' can handle anything you throw at them. Except wood of course."

      "Your voice is kind of whiny and reedy for a Sith Lord, Anakin. Can't you get a voice coach or something?"

      "Jedi Master Windu's bravery and wisdom will be remembered for, oh, 27 years, tops."

      "Aren't the Skywalker twins cute? And such sexual tension between them!"

      "Let's remove R2's jet rockets and put in some sort of teddy bear zapping device instead."

      "Well, that's it. There's no hope."

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  9. Back to the Future by TFGeditor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it just me, or does the whole "back to the future" approach somehow degrade the Star Wars saga? The new stuff has nifty effects and all, but it just doesn't have the "feel" of the originals.

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    1. Re:Back to the Future by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Funny

      Is it just me, or does the whole "back to the future" approach somehow degrade the Star Wars saga?

      Agree. SW jumped the shark when Yoda said "tree you make like and get out of here!".

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    2. Re:Back to the Future by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > THEY ARE ONLY FUCKIGN MOVIES and enjoy the
      > entertanment they offer.

      The problem is the entertainment value has dwindled. The original movie was pretty whiz-bang, and delightfully cheesy, though I cringe through quite a bit of it now.

      The Empire Strikes Back was where it hit its stride, and really left us SW freeks at the time hanging on for what Episode VI would be like.

      Episode VI bashed us over the head for f*cking ever with that awful Jabba's Palace sequence, though seeing Carrey Fisher in a skimpy outfit was something of a payoff. Unfortunately the movie just sort of collapsed. I believe David Brin wrote a really keen analysis of Episode VI, pointing out that whether Luke turned to the Dark Side or not was meaningless, as the shield generator was destroyed and the second Death Star (another f*cking Death Star???) was doomed anyways.

      Episode I managed to ruin the notion of the Force by trying to technobabble it. I mean, Darth Vader didn't need some midochlorian detector to tell the guy that blew up the first Death Star was strong with the Force, so why is it suddenly so necessary for the Jedis earlier on?

      Episode II didn't even make much sense. Dooku's role is just bizarre, and even the first time I saw it was scratching my head as to why he's revealing to Obiwan that there's a Sith Lord controlling much of the Senate, when he's in fact the bloody f*cking apprentice to said Sith Lord. Yoda's little tacked on explanation of sowing seeds of disharmony (or whatever the line was) was idiotic, and seemed just that, tacked on to try to explain this really screwy encounter between Dooku and Obiwan.

      In other words, the plotting of these movies is just plain bad. When your remove the special effects, only Episode V really stands up, and the others could have been written by a high school creative writing student.

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  10. Spoiler by TheNextBigThing · · Score: 5, Funny

    Annikin becomes Darth Vader!!

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  11. Capitalization by Mekabyte · · Score: 4, Funny

    Separatist Droid Army and not SEPARATIST DROID ARMY?

  12. War! Huh! Hey! What is it good for? by Chagatai · · Score: 5, Funny
    Absolutely nothing!

    Seriously, with the way the new crawl starts with the word "War!", Lucas just might have replaced it with "Ass!" or something else asinine.

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  13. NOOOO!!!!!!! by paranode · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's not true, that's IMPOSSIBLE!!!!

    1. Re:NOOOO!!!!!!! by Stavr0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Search your feelings... you know it to be true...

  14. Crawler Text in case of /.ing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Episode III
    REVENGE OF THE SITH

    War! The Republic is crumbling under attacks by
    the ruthless Sith Lord, Count Dooku. There are
    heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere.

    In a stunning move, the fiendish droid leader,
    General Grievous, has swept into the Republic
    capital and kidnapped Chancellor Palpatine,
    leader of the Galactic Senate.

    As the Separatist Droid Army attempts to flee
    the besieged capital with their turgid hostage,
    two Jedi Knights and a brave but clumsy Gungan
    warrior lead a desperate mission to rescue the
    captive Chancellor....

    1. Re:Crawler Text in case of /.ing by Bonker · · Score: 5, Funny

      Episode VI
      THE RETURN OF THE HYPE
      Money! Lucas' Fanbase is crumbling under
      the onslaught of bad film after bad film.
      Theree are people camping out for Episode
      III, but everyone thinks they are just
      kinda sad.

      In a predictable move, Lucas Arts has
      announced dozens of new action figures
      and marketing tie-ins. Ronald McDonald has
      been Kidnapped and is being replaced by
      Yoda, C-3P0, and Chewbacca.

      As the general geek community attempts
      to brace for another soul-crushing
      dissapointment, Jar Jar Binks threatens
      to taint yet another gasping breath of
      a dying franchise...

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    2. Re:Crawler Text in case of /.ing by Xoro · · Score: 2, Funny

      It is a time of uncertainty. the
      empire's ambiguous tariff statutes
      mandate close reexamination of
      galactic export quotas. Interim
      Princess Agoomba has co-chaired
      a subcommittee to draft amendments
      to existing trade policies.

      Meanwhile, regulatory agencies
      are being heavily lobbied by a
      consortium of mercantile interest
      groups and their suppliers to
      streamline loading restrictions for
      class C cargo vessels. The shipping...

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    3. Re:Crawler Text in case of /.ing by rollerbob · · Score: 3, Funny

      Episode III
      REVENGE OF THE SITH

      War! - huh - yeah-
      What is it good for?
      Absolutely nothing
      Say it again y'all

      Ohhh... War! I despise
      Because it means destruction'
      Of innocent lives

      War means tears
      to thousands of mothers eyes
      When their sons go to fight
      and lose their lives

      I said - War! Huh - Good God y'all
      What is it good for?
      Absolutely nothing
      Say it again

  15. "There are heroes on both sides" by manifoldronin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess that leaves the door open for whatever the upcoming Lucas Arts games.

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  16. And with that... by JasonUCF · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And with that, the final raping of your childhood memories of Star Wars is now nearly at hand. Grab your wallet, grab your glasses, and grab your ankles.. May is coming sooner than you think!

  17. Re:spoiler- by TheKidWho · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, I am your father.

  18. Must RESIST ... must resist .. whimper by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    Look. Look.
    See. See.
    Look. Look. Look.
    See. See. See.
    See Anakin. See Anakin turn. Turn Anakin turn.
    See Jedis. See Jedis die. Die Jedis die.
    See Palpatine. See Palpatine rule. Rule Palpatine rule.
    Look. See Darth Vader. See Amidala. See Amidala give birth and hide children. Hide them Amidala.
    See Amidala die. Die Amidala die.

    There's so much to see.

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  19. No, but... by paranode · · Score: 5, Funny

    It did say "This isn't the story you're looking for" at which point I had an uncontrollable urge to say "Move along, move along". That was weird.

    1. Re:No, but... by SlowMovingTarget · · Score: 2, Funny

      I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of souls were suddenly disappointed...

  20. Revised Crawl by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Funny
    REVENGE OF THE LUCAS
    Cash! The production house is crumbling
    under attacks by the ruthless
    Sith Lord, and Slashdot fanboys.
    There are whiners on both sides.
    Ennui is everywhere.

    In a stunning move, the
    fiendish droid leader, General
    Lucas, has swept into the
    Hollywood capital and kidnapped
    famous movie critics, and leaders of
    the big studios.

    As the exhasperated Slashdot army
    attempts to flee the onslaught
    of PR pushed by bought-for flaks
    two Jedi Knights lead a
    desperate mission to rescue the
    captive franchise...

  21. good grief by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Insightful

    General Grievous is described on the star wars site basically as a cyborg, not a droid.

    Or do they mean he's the general of a droid army?

    These people need good writers, that's for sure.

  22. Converts to gull blown screener by Linker3000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    It may only be a crawler when you first look, but I've just ordered this wonderful image enhancer sticker from an online store - the sticker's only about 1.5" by 2" and according to the spec it's manufactured from "advanced, outsized nanoparticles fused with filings from real phase inverted plasma conduits", and when you stick it on the side of your monitor you can see a full length screener of the film.

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  23. Re:Can someone explain something(s)? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Is Dooku good or evil?

    Evil. It's the laughing at wholesale destruction and killing the Jedi that gives it away...

    Which is the Empire and which is the Rebellion? Is Dooku on either one of those?

    The (Old) Republic becomes The Empire. The Rebellion hasn't started (because it has nothing, yet, to rebel against). Dooku is on the side that will become The Empire.

    Which side (Palpatine vs .Dooku) is the one that gets Darth Vader and the Storm Troopers?

    Palpatine and Dooku are on the same side. They are both Sith (i.e. evil).

    Since Palpatine is the Emperor, how can he be on both sides?

    Palpatine is creating a war situation to allow him to seize tighter control and disband the senate. This is a fairly unoriginal trick amongst politicians (see Margret Thatcher in the UK and George W. Bush in the US for real life examples - although they were both a bit less blatant about it). Palpatine's minions are running the separatist movement, under his orders.

    I've seen Episode II a bunch of times, but frankly, I can't figure it all out.

    It's not exactly complicated...

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  24. obligatory simpsons reference by Class+Act+Dynamo · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would be remiss in my duties if I did not bring up the Cosmic Wars crawler text.

    The Gathering Shadow

    It is a time of uncertainty. The
    empire's ambiguous tariff statutes
    mandate close reexamination of
    galactic import quotas. Interim
    Princess Agoomba has co-chaired
    a subcommittee to draft amendments
    to existing trade policies

    Meanwhile, regulatory agencies
    are being heavily lobbied by a
    consortium of mercantile interest
    groups and their suppliers to
    streamline loading restrictions for
    class C cargo vessels. The shipping...

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  25. Worst Star Wars ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm pissing my pants with anticipation.... ... this just MAY be the worst Star Wars ever.

    1. Re:Worst Star Wars ever? by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do we ever bother caring anymore?

      Because it is Star Wars ?

      Will we have more jar-jar? Yup.

      No. We had less Jar-Jar in Ep2 than in Ep1, so logically there's even less in Ep3. Besides, if you think about it, Jar-Jar was actually a neccessary character for the plot - to get the Republic army established.

      Yup. Will we have another wonderfully dark, brooding piece of science-fiction/fantasy like "The Empire Strikes Back"? Errr, no.

      Possibly. I don't really see how Ep3, with the birth of Vader and fall of the Republic (and death of nearly all jedis), could possibly be anything but dark.

      But, on more general note, was I the only one who actually liked Ep1 and Ep2 ? People seem to dislike them because they don't have the same feel as the Ep4-6, but of course they can't have the same feel - the original SW trilogy described a war, but the war only started at the end of Ep2.

      Just forget midiclorians (as Lucas apparently did in Ep2 - never, ever try to explain mystery) and the ludicrous episode of kid Anakin accidentally blowing up the droid battleship, and they are actually pretty good movies.

      I, for one, am very interested in seeing this one - now that the plot is moving full speed, with a desperate war being fought in the background, and Vader appearing to the scene, there is every reason to believe this could be the ESB of the new SW movies.

      It better be - because if they mess up my favourite childhood villain...

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    2. Re:Worst Star Wars ever? by dcarey · · Score: 2

      I, for one, am very interested in seeing this one - now that the plot is moving full speed, with a desperate war being fought in the background, and Vader appearing to the scene, there is every reason to believe this could be the ESB of the new SW movies.

      Roger that.

      Aside from the fact that many of us geeks grow up to become nilhilists, critics, and sardonic viewers of movie sequels such that nothing will please us (probably becuase we've learn that's somehow cool to poo-poo everything), I think on the average this film will rock. And if it does in the way you and I both think that it will, the naysayers will look pretty bad.

      Go ahead, naysayers -- pooh-pooh this film before it begins! I dare you!

      The sad truth is that because of nostalgia and the link between ESB and childhood, Ep3 could be the best, darkest piece of tragedy of all 6 and some in the geek crowd will still dismiss it.

      Then again, I liked Matrix Reloaded. Sue me.

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    3. Re:Worst Star Wars ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I liked them to.... (man, I should get an account, this is my 15th ano.... )

      Most people don't realise two critical aspects:

      Episode 1 was no where as good as the originals: true... but then, when was the last time you read a GOOD (not just any old one will do, it has to be one you thought was well thought out and well written) Novel where the first chapter was better that the one with the climax... (please no inuendo jokes)

      The 'Romantic' dialog in Episode 2 was supposed to be crap... what is anikin it that one late teens, early twenties at best... and in terms of emotional maturity we was at best 14. Have you ever listened to any one that age 'try' to be romantic in conversation, or better yet, remember when you yourself were that age and were trying to woo the women. Trust me, they are/you were that bad... no matter what you would like to believe.

      Anikin walks into Padmes appartment, seeing here for first time in 10 years: "And you've grown to, more beutiful I mean, for a senitor"

      Me in audiance: "That is the worst line I have ever heard!... wait a minute, it sounds familiar... holly shit, I used that one on *name removed to protect the innocent*, no wonder she ran screeming in fear!"

      so in conclution I have commpletly forgotten what it was I was going to say so:

      slashdot:"Character limit exceded..."
      me: bloody hell!

    4. Re:Worst Star Wars ever? by Pxtl · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why ewoks are better than Jar-Jar.
      a) no pathetic slapstick. Jar-jar can't walk into a room without doing something stupid.
      b) no stupid speech. Ewoks make cute little noises, but don't actually sound like a Jamaican Elmer Fudd with down-syndrome.
      c) Ewoks who fought the storm troopers actually had casualties, like in a real battle. Gungans were mysteriously immortal in their fight against the battledroids.

      Ewoks were obviously, pointlessly cute, and the battle was a little silly with the stone-age ewoks taking out imperial AT-ST's, but they weren't as massively annoying as Jar-Jar.

    5. Re:Worst Star Wars ever? by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      Episode V, in my mind, still stands out as the best Star Wars installment. Probably it's because Leigh Brackett wrote the story, and she was one of the finest SF writers I've encountered (her Mars stories are heads and shoulders above Burroughs').

      To be honest, I loved Star Wars right up into my late 20s, but I have a hard time watching anything but Episode V any more. I popped in Episode II a couple of weekends ago and thought "I paid to see this in a theater?" What a pity that such vast resources were wasted on such a cruddy, ill-thought out story line.

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    6. Re:Worst Star Wars ever? by EvilAlien · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yes, Jar Jar was necessary for the plot... the problem is that the plot could have been developed without characters that sucked. The role of naive bit player being manipulated into catalyzing a critical shift in politics could have been filled with something that wasn't a moronic cartoon character designed so that kids had something to laugh at.

      Lucas has proven that he shouldn't be allowed to make movies without someone to remind him when has slipped into "talentless hack" mode. The problem isn't the nature story that needed to be told in Ep1-2, the problem is the way in which Lucas told the story. It is entirely possible to do non-war Sci-Fi competantly with engaging characters, good dialog, and great acting. That is not what we got out of Ep1-2... there were some shocking examples of pathetic acting (examples: Amidala falling out of the airborn troop transport, gets up a moment later without bothering to act the role of someone who would have been severely winded at best; Mannequin Skywalker... 'nuff said).

      IMO, Lucas' strengths are in the big picture, the overall story arc, but when he is left to do dialog and little important details, his movies turn into big action figure commercials (moreso than ROTJ). Visually, very impressive, but lacking substance. Don't get me wrong... he's a better screenwriter and director than Uwe Boll...

      That being said, I have high hopes for this movie. It had better not suck, because I'm sick and tired of people with way more money than talent being able to churn out crap while real artists have to bow and scrape to the studios so that half their vision can end up on the cutting room floor.

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  26. Re:asking for your opinions by Metzli · · Score: 2, Funny

    Watch IV, then V, then VI. Unless you're _really_ bored and/or inebriated, skip I and II. We'll see about III, but I'm not holding my breath....

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  27. Duh! by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny
    Re:General Grievous?
    *sigh*

    Why 'General Grievous?'? Because General Electric was already taken!

    rimshot

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  28. It is just me by calbanese · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or does anyone else think that Lucas should spice up Episode III with some breakdancing?

  29. Re:Hope It's not Another Kid's Movie by PriceIke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    May I suggest Battlestar Galactica as an alternative. Sci-fi for grownups.

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  30. Blah blah by LSD-OBS · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yadda yadda

    Just kill Jar Jar FFS!

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  31. "You WILL!" by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thanks to the Internet, you'll see Star Wars Episode III before that sad git camping out in line for tickets. /Tom Selleck

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    1. Re:"You WILL!" by the31337z3r0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In a manner of speaking, he knows them TOO well. The original trilogy (4, 5, 6) used models as opposed to CG. In my opinion, the models were MILLIONS of times more convincing than the CG in the past two movies. It's almost as if he's stretching the CG too far.

    2. Re:"You WILL!" by Glsai · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't have mod points so you'll have to deal with a verbal mod up. I rewatched the original trilogy (as almost everyone else did when they were put out on DVD) and watching the end of Return of the Jedi as Luke is battling with the Emperor, one thing I noticed is how real it seemed. No matter how many green screens and CGI you do, it just doesn't seem to give the real feeling that seeing actual props do. Now using CGI for the backgrounds instead of matte painting works nicely, but for foreground elements it just looks much better with models.

  32. I don't thin that Word means... a:Crawler Text by HiredMan · · Score: 3, Informative
    As the Separatist Droid Army attempts to flee the besieged capital with their turgid hostage

    TURGID
    [adj] abnormally distended especially by fluids or gas; "tumescent tissue"; "puffy tumid flesh"

    Unless Lucas himself is playing Chancellor Palpatine I'm not sure how this description applies. Is it really necessary to point out that the guy is really fat in opening crawl?
    Either that or "turgid" is sometimes used as an oblique reference to having a stiffy... and that REALLY doesn't need to be in the opening crawl, IMHO.

    =tkk

  33. Re:You have no valid option by grub · · Score: 3, Informative


    Your next best option is to find someone with the original 3 movies on laserdisc.

    There are very good quality DVD-R ISOs of the original 3 ripped from laserdisc floating around the net. Nice to see Han shooting first.

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  34. Holy... by jalefkowit · · Score: 5, Funny

    He actually named a bad guy "General Grevious"???

    What a breathtaking lack of creativity. I look forward to seeing his counterpart on the other side, Major Niceguy.

    1. Re:Holy... by dpilot · · Score: 2, Funny

      He was promoted from one of the Other 4 Motorcyclists of the Apocolypse, along with his friends, Things That Need a Really Good Thumping, (mumble), and (mumble, haven't re-read Good Omens recently enough).

      Oh, Grevious is really short for Grevious Bodily Harm.

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    2. Re:Holy... by p3d0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, that's way worse than "Skywalker" or "Solo" or "Organa" or "Sidious" or "Maul".

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    3. Re:Holy... by cei · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You're suprised? Considering "Vader" is dutch for "father"???

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  35. parody by jmaxwell39648 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Check out this parody of Episode III. The guy did some nice work. Looks like everything is green screen. Funny as hell. http://www.sequentialpictures.com/moviestarwarsepi sode3.html

  36. 4-5-6, then 1-2-3 (optional) by hsoft · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would watch 4-5-6 first because if you watch 1-2-3 before 4-5-6, the big punch "Luke... I AM..." in ep5 will be spoiled because you saw ep3.

    Yes, SW should be more enjoyable in the 456123 order, or better in the 456 order.

    Hey, why not trying 654321? It must be fun :)

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  37. Why have the new trilogy char names been so bad? by attemptedgoalie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I read an interview once where George said that he lets his kids name that characters...

    Hence: Jar Jar, Dooku, Grievous, Elan Sleazebaggo (don't believe me? look it up), etc.

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  38. Re:Can someone explain something(s)? by RobinH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since Palpatine is the Emperor, how can he be on both sides?

    He's a politician, right? It doesn't matter which side of the aisle he sits on, he's evil through and through.

    Seriously, episodes 4, 5, and 6 were about the rebels (clearly good guys fighting for their freedom) overcoming the "evil empire". It was clear where the good/bad distinction was. In episodes 1, 2, and 3, it's the story about how they got to that point. There were no clear sides, just decay throughout the entire old republic. Some people were good and some people were bad, but the good guys weren't organized to see what was going on.

    To me, this is all very much related to how we all perceive world events. In the late 70's, early 80's, there was a clear good and bad side to the world (from our perspective in the west). The soviets were the "evil empire", and we were all the good guys fighting for freedom. In this day and age, the lines have blurred. Nobody's sure who's on "our" side, and we're all afraid about terrorists infiltrating our own neighourhoods. We still want to live by the old ideals of freedom, but we are also aware that there are people in power who might not have the noblest intentions. It's hard to paint Iraq or Iran as truly "evil" because we shy away from stereotypes now. The governments can't unite us against any enemy that we can't all agree is evil.

    When I was growing up 20 years ago, the U.S. was the ultimate "good guy" nation. Now, none of us (outside the U.S.) know who the good guys really are anymore. Many of us expect the U.S. to turn on the rest of us merely out of its own self interest, even if it's against its own self-proclaimed principles to do so. Within the U.S., it seems like many people also worry about whether their own government will turn on them some day.

    Movies tend to mirror the ideas and fears of the time when they are made. These movies are no exception.

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  39. ''Turgid Hostage'' ! by Odd+John · · Score: 4, Funny

    ''As the Separatist Droid Army attempts to flee the besieged capital with their turgid hostage''

    Turgid hostage!

    Did Senator Palpatine get a woody while being held down ?

    Turgid:

    1. Excessively ornate or complex in style or language; grandiloquent: turgid prose.

    2. Swollen or distended, as from a fluid; bloated: a turgid bladder; turgid veins.

    On the other hand you can say that all the Lucas movies are turgid.

    1. Re:''Turgid Hostage'' ! by Dirtside · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's odd. When I looked at it just now, it says "valuable hostage". I guess they changed it?

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  40. Wrong! by jspoon · · Score: 4, Funny
    One would think that 'vague direction' and 'a lot of explorations' would come up with something innovative. But, as can be seen from the picture, what do we have?

    A droid, in the shape and likliness of a human, holding two lightsabers. I mean honestly!

    Oops! You didn't study the picture closely enough. Gen. Grievous is clearly wielding not two but THREE lightsabers. Let's all raise our voices to congratulate Mr. Lucas for striking off in this radical new direction.

    1. Re:Wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Fuck everything, we're doing 5 lightsabers.

  41. Re:Can someone explain something(s)? by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 2
    I've seen Episode II a bunch of times, but frankly, I can't figure it all out.
    It's not exactly complicated...

    Actually, I agree with the GP. I have followed all of the movies and Ep II is way too complicated (not to mention boring). I had to watch it three times in order to understand ANY of the politics (on HBO -- I wasn't about to pay to see the movies in the theater again).

    I consider Ep II to suffer from a similar problem to Godfather III. Each movie is way too complex (the Senatorial politics of Ep II/the Vatican politics of G-III)). And, each movie has one horrendous acting performance (Hayden Christiansen/Sophia Coppolla).

  42. Re:War! Huh! Hey! What is it good for? by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lucas just might have replaced it with "Ass!"

    No point in giving away the film in the first ten seconds.

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  43. Not spicy enough for todays audiences... by GeneralEmergency · · Score: 3, Funny



    Note to Scroll Writing Staff:

    Please rework Scroll to include the phrase "hot space-monkey nookie".

    Please, no Wookie-Nookie jokes.

    THX, GL

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    1. Re:Not spicy enough for todays audiences... by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2, Funny
      "hot space-monkey nookie"

      You are thinking of the remake of Planet of the Apes.
      In which case it is better phrased:
      Bong smoking space-monkey from the future nookie.

  44. It's official... by William_Lee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Star Wars has now become a parody of Space Balls...

  45. And it's REALLY STUPID by mcc · · Score: 5, Funny

    The opening crawls in the original trilogy served as a method of allowing the movie to open in medias res without the audience having a sense of disorientation. In the latter two movies this included an aspect of establishing that time had passed since the previous movie-- but, no meaningful or potentially interesting-to-watch events were in this way "skipped", it is simply made clear to us that what we expected has occurred in the intervening time (the war continues, Luke continues to train, Vader turned Solo over to Jabba the Hutt) with perhaps one or two little bits of information that alert us as to the movie's focus (the Imperials are known to be building a weapon capable of destroying an entire planet).

    In the prequel trilogies the crawls have served two purposes. The intentional purpose is to allow George Lucas to weasel out of characterization, establishing setting and place, and moving the plot along. Unlike the original trilogies, where the Star Wars universe's background and nature was established incidentally, through subtle details of what we see and hear during the movie, in the prequel trilogies they just use the opening crawl to say "plop, there it is", and disorientingly slam down the characters and setting they wish to put the movie in. After this point, since they seem to consider themselves thus freed from explaining themselves, they completely refrain during the movie from elaborating on the things the opening crawl sketches or filling in details beyond the crawl's bare outline (where is Naboo and why, if in any obvious way, are they important? who is the Trade Federation and why should we care? who is "count dooky", why would someone have heard of him, what does he claim he wants, and why does this all appear to be important to someone who does not know his true aspirations? who is "grevious", how and why is he starting a droid army, and what are the implications of this? most importantly what would the answer to these questions appear to be to someone within the movie-- not us the viewer, to whom the answers are "he's the bad guy and he wants to rule the world", what would an average citizen of the Republic think Dooku to be?) and so use the time freed up within the movie in this way to concentrate on roller-coaster-style but otherwise long, boring and irrelivant action scenes.

    The unintentional purpose of the prequel trilogy opening crawls is to bash you over the head with how stupid all these character names are ("Grevious"? "Dooku"??? I mean come on!), just in case the majesty of John Williams' opening score might otherwise distract you from the suspicion that the entire plotline to the prequel trilogy was written by Lucas's 4-year-old child in a single sitting some years ago in crayon on a napkin.

    1. Re:And it's REALLY STUPID by bilgebag · · Score: 2, Funny

      But Lucas has been using very stupid names since before Star Wars (episode 4, whatever). His original pitch described the film as:

      "the story of Mace Windu, a revered Jedi-bendu of Ophuchi who was related to Usby C.J. Thape, a padawaan leader to the famed Jedi" ...

      Twat.

  46. Youse Guys are giving me a by mykepredko · · Score: 3, Funny

    Major Payne!

    myke

    1. Re:Youse Guys are giving me a by The-Bus · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think you meant Major Major Major Major.

      Yossarian!!!

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    2. Re:Youse Guys are giving me a by KanSer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hmm, it seems one Major Asshole has taken control of Lucasfilm...

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  47. Re:Can someone explain something(s)? by Schnapple · · Score: 2, Funny
    Movies tend to mirror the ideas and fears of the time when they are made. These movies are no exception
    So George W. Bush is just making it up as he goes along, too?

    (I keed, I keed)

  48. I would think the reference is blindingly obvious. by abb3w · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The evil that men do lives after them;
    The good is oft interrèd with their bones.
    So let it be with Caesar. The noble Brutus
    Hath told you Caesar was ambitious.
    If it were so, it was a Grievous fault,
    And grievously hath Caesar answered it.
    -- Wm. Shakespeare, Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene ii.

    Given that this is a story of the fall of the Republic and the Rise of the Empire, Lucas' literary allusion here seems to have all of the subtlety of a high-speed halfbrick to the cranium.

    Come on, everyone-- ripping off Shakespeare is a noble literary tradition !

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  49. Re:Some real news about Revenge of the Sith by Frobisher · · Score: 3, Funny

    Obi-won chops off Anakin's other real hand and both of his legs.

    Obi-won: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
    Anakin: I'm invincible!
    Obi-won: You're a loony.
    Anakin: The Black Knight always triumphs! Have at you! Come on then.
    [...]
    Anakin: All right; we'll call it a draw... Oh, oh, I see, running away then. You yellow bastard! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!

  50. Re:What the hell is a "crawl"? by TFGeditor · · Score: 2, Informative
    It is short for "text crawl."

    According to http://www.e-paranoids.com/c/cr/crawl.html: "In television, a text crawl is a moving line of text usually put at the bottom of the screen. It is generally set up to convey news and up-to-the-minute information about weather and other critical situations. A text crawl is an application of the computer graphics technique of scrolling. Text crawls became standard on news broadcasts in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks."

    Ergo, in this case it is simply a screen-wide vertical text crawl.

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  51. Georgie? Is that you? by gosand · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Don't bury the movie till you see it

    Mr. Lucas, is that you?

    Fool me once (Ep I), shame on me.
    Fool me twice (EpII)... uh... can't get fooled again.

    That twit isn't getting any more of my money. For Ep II he only got the rental money, this time he isn't getting squat.

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  52. ...heros on both sides.... by jzarling · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems to be pandering to the "no one is ever wrong" crowd. The beauty of SW was that good and evil were so well defined. The Empire BAD - Rebellion GOOD.

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  53. Re:Georgie? Is that you? by Photon+Ghoul · · Score: 2, Funny

    There's an old saying on Tatooine -- I know it's on Naboo, probably on Tatooine -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again.

    - Darth Doobyu