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Bill Gates Handwriting Analyzed

Kaal Alexander Rosser writes "The BBC is reporting that a doodle left behind at a Davos press conference given by Tony Blair, Bill Gates and Bono shows the writer to be: "an unstable man" amongst other things. The Gates Foundation has confirmed the doodle was left there by Bill Gates."

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  1. unstable by minus_273 · · Score: 5, Funny

    i dont know about gates, but his OS is damn unstable.

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  2. Bill Gates doodles... by fitten · · Score: 5, Funny

    are probably nothing more than variations of the $ sign... =)

    1. Re:Bill Gates doodles... by sasquatch21 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bill uses Perl?

    2. Re:Bill Gates doodles... by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      are probably nothing more than variations of the $ sign... =)

      I heard there were drawings of some short squat bird and the words "die die die" over and over again...

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  3. Aha by spellraiser · · Score: 4, Funny

    The 'unstable man, unstable OS' jokes may begin ... now.

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  4. Wow by Quasar1999 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Really, handwriting analysis? This is the computer age... I don't even know how to write... I put an 'X' in the 'sign here' section... everything else I type... If they analysed my handwriting, well... they'd think I was a 2 year old with a crayon. ;)

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    1. Re:Wow by Foofoobar · · Score: 4, Funny
      If they analysed my handwriting, well... they'd think I was a 2 year old with a crayon


      I thought most Visual Basic users were. ;)
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  5. Tony Blair, Bill Gates and Bono... by brian+ferullo · · Score: 4, Funny

    what bad joke is this setting up?

    1. Re:Tony Blair, Bill Gates and Bono... by 955301 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tony Blair, Bill Gates and Bono walk into a bar within 5 minutes of one another and sit down.

      With an obvious need to one up the other two egos in the room, Tony orders a kamikazi and says, "I know they say the three of us are quite unstable, but I believe I have you chaps beat, even on that front. I overthrew a country on the advice of a Texan." He passes a "one-free-knighting" coupon to the bartender for escro on his challenge.

      Gates, drinking a screwdriver and squiggling on a piece of paper, blurts out "It's not like Britain didn't do that to the same people before. Try dominating the world with a collection of buggy software and an army of marketroids. Allow the single most significant collaborative creation of the 20th century to be brought to its knees. Then get back to me". He passes a check totaling the GNP of a small country to the bartendar to see Blair's challenge.

      Bono, not even inclined to remove his sunglasses responds passes a black I-pod to the bartender. "You see that blonde, at the end of the bar? I'm going to eat her now." He downs his tequila, walks up the blonde, stabs her repeatedly, then eats her, and returns to the conversation.

      The bartender interjects and says to Bono "I don't think your instability counts... after all, you're on drugs, and that makes it artificial." Bono, looking puzzled because he hadn't taken a pill in at least three days says "Hell, I'm not on drugs". The bartender passes the pot to Gates, refills the men's drinks and replies, "of course you are, that was a bar-bitch-you-ate".

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  6. Hitting the Nail on the Head ! by bushboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, the poor guy has been hammered left right and center for years - can you blame him for being a bit troubled !

    I bet he draws penguins and apples and little tiny bugs and all sorts of odd things when he's bored !

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  7. See for yourself by SYFer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a look at the actual doodle .

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  8. Re:handwriting analysis? by coyotecult · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The sad thing is they THOUGHT they were doing it on Tony Blair, and attributed all these not-so-hot characteristics dissing his leadership abilities. I'm still trying to figure out how they can determine all of that, and not realize that it's not even Blair's handwriting. Big gaffe. Serves them write. I'm so tired of pseudosciences -- especially ones that have been admitted in court as evidence.

  9. Bear in mind... by gowen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most of those assessments were made when the "graphologists" in question were under the belief the doodle was Blair's. So we should withhold judgement until we have second opinions from the Phrenologists, Dowsers and any other Pseudo-Scientific Charlatans who feel like chipping in with their worthless, substance less opinions...

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  10. Handwriting Analysis.... by big-giant-head · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Right up there with reading tea leaves and goat entrails.

    Now analysis to verify for a court that this is the defendants handwriting yes or no,for example is a science.

    Tying some Psychological profile to someone's doodle is a joke......

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  11. But how did they... by tod_miller · · Score: 4, Funny

    How did they crack the DRM on the doodles so they they could be analysed outside of Media Player?

    And why didn't the paper contain a little ticker that showed the time and date and author of the doodle?

    Anyone have a link the torrent? Oh man, I feel strange... it must be the /. effect.

    Did the doodles point to any new ideas in windows? Or was one of the doodles a strange on-flying bird like creature being beaten to death by office stationary (paperclips)

    Who knows? :-) Or was it a monkey screaming 'oooh ooh develoopers! developers developers! aaaargh!'

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  12. The real scoop by paranode · · Score: 5, Insightful
    For those of you who didn't bother to look at TFA:

    A spokesman said: "Following the press conference given by the prime minister, Bill Gates and Bono in Davos on Thursday, a number of newspapers printed stories claiming that a page of notes and doodles left behind on the platform belonged to Tony Blair, and provided an insight into the mind of the prime minister.

    "They were in fact doodles made by Bill Gates.

    "We look forward with amusement to explanations by a variety of psychologists and graphologists of how various characteristics ascribed to the prime minister on the basis of the doodles, such as 'struggling to concentrate', 'not a natural leader', 'struggling to keep control of a confusing world' and 'an unstable man who is feeling under enormous pressure', equally apply to Mr Gates.

    "We are astonished that no-one who ran the story thought to ask No 10 if the doodles were in fact Mr Blair's, particularly as it was obvious to anyone the handwriting was totally different."

    In other words, graphology is BS and the people who analyzed it already had a preconceived notion about whose it was and made the appropriate BS analyses.

    1. Re:The real scoop by mrseigen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm leaning towards "Really fucking bored". That's where all of my doodles come from.

    2. Re:The real scoop by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 5, Insightful

      These remind me of lie detector tests. It's unfortunate that these ideas are given any credibility.

    3. Re:The real scoop by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > These remind me of lie detector tests. It's
      > unfortunate that these ideas are given any
      > credibility.

      Agreed. Polygraphs are so pathetically unreliable, but unfortunately if you refuse to take one (which I would seriously consider if I was charged with a serious crime) then somehow that makes you guilty; the classic "If you're innocent, you've got nothing to fear." Even the cops know that lie detectors are crapola, but it's a useful tool to smoke out a true believer who thinks the freakin' things can read minds.

      People seem to give a lot of credence to this pseudoscience, though to my mind this sort of handwriting analysis is no better than phrenology and astrology.

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    4. Re:The real scoop by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I hope this isn't getting too offtopic, but I remember that one of the big problems with polygraphs was the need for baseline values to determine truth and lying. Apart from the fact that you would respond differently when deliberately telling a lie because it is part of the procedure and when telling a lie to deceive, the baseline questions usually show the prejudices of the interrogator. For example, an interrogator will often ask "have you ever smoked before?" or "have you ever tried marijuana?" assuming, of course, that everyone has tried these. Therefore, if you say no, they assume that your response is the baseline for lying since obviously anyone who says they haven't is lying. And it is an unfalsifiable position.

      The human race would be so funny if they weren't so dangerous.

    5. Re:The real scoop by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My understanding is that the problems with polygraphs are sufficiently numerous that they should be regarded as little more than mysticism. Cops use the excuse that they can feel out potential suspects, and providing that the potential suspects believe the test to be accurate, then I guess it may be just another tool like BSing a suspect about evidence, witnesses, etc. In other words, it's just a parlor trick to make a suspect screw up. So far as I'm aware no court in the US, Canada or Europe even allows polygraph "evidence" to be admitted.

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    6. Re:The real scoop by MirthScout · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You don't need to refuse to take a polygraph test.

      Always agree to take it. They will want you to sign a release form (they have no liability, blah, blah). Refuse to sign the release form. They will decide not to administer the polygraph test. Remind them that you are agreeing to take the polygraph test and it is they that are choosing not to administer it.

      I did this with an employer many years ago. It was very funny.

    7. Re:The real scoop by MirthScout · · Score: 5, Informative

      It was a long time ago so I can't quote it. As I recall, he release form I saw said that they could use the information in any way they deemed apropriate. That they would not disclose information from the test to anyone unless they determined the other party should have the information (basically that they could give the info to anyone they wanted). That they were not laible for any harm to me or my reputation.

      It was a page and a half saying they could do anything they wanted and I couldn't hold them liable.

      No way I'd sign that.

      The emplayer was a retailer you'd find a majority of malls in the US.

      To be fair, the man that was there to administer the polygraph was the president of his own company contracted by the retailer. He said the retailer's liability waiver was more extreme than most and showed me the standard one he uses for other clients. It still wasn't something I'd sign given how unreliable and subjective polygraphs are.

      He then asked if he could do a security interview. He explained that to be asking all the same questions but without the polygraph machine. I agreed to whichever he wanted to do. :)

  13. Bill's future. by adam31 · · Score: 4, Funny
    I saw Bill get a tarot card reading in Las Vegas a while back.

    I remember one card had a Skull...
    and the other had a Penguin.

  14. Next on Slashdot by the_skywise · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bill Gates' psychological analysis using the science of Numerology, his tea leaves from his last sushi dinner and a phrenologic reading of his cranium.

  15. Re:Want to see the doodle? by savagedome · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, George Bush's doodle was also found. You can see it here

  16. Re:Speaking as a geek... by oliana · · Score: 5, Funny

    I believe the correct sentiment is "more successful" with technology than girls.

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  17. Re:Him2? by miseryinmotion · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bono happens to draw comic versions of himself and The Edge fighting evil across the galaxy, and always takes them home to ink and color.

  18. This is juvenile by CaptainZapp · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Look, I like a good microsoft bashing, just as most of my fellow slashdooters, but don't you think that this is a very cheap shot?

    No doubt that Microsoft has some shady business tactics. There's no question that they provide shoddy products from a security perspective and then push responsibility for their goofs to on user community. There's the issue ,of corse, that they hound free software by the cheapest pr tricks in the book and the system Microsoft sucks shit! Well, hell! There's a lot of valid complaints when it comes to chastising Microsoft as a corporation

    I really don't want to ideolize Mr. Gates and he is often guilty of wrong speak; willingly or out of ignorance.

    But attempting a character analyses from a doodle he left at a conference (which potentially was boring) is just plain juvenile.

    Hold your ammunition for the real issues, slashdot, and retain your credibility in the bargain...

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  19. Typo? by Ironsides · · Score: 4, Funny

    Excuse me while I go consult the "I Ching" to find out whether Microsoft intends to embed Internet Explorer in "Office 2007".

    Since this is Microsoft and Bill Gates we are talking about, shouldn't you consult "Ka Ching" instead?

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  20. Tony Blair, Bill Gates and Bono go into a bar... by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and the bar tender says, "We don't serve big wigs here like you.".

    Tony Blair says, "But can we at least vote on it?".

    The bartender says, "No!".

    Bill Gates says, "But we just need a place to crash.".

    The bartender felt betrayed because he expected support from Bill, and thus said, "You too??".

    Bono says, "Yes...".

  21. Is this the Bill obesssion? by Stunning+Tard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As the parent notes the story isn't really about doodles by Bill Gates, but about doodles that aren't by Tony Blair. And the ensuing BS because people assumed they were. The only thing remarkable about Gate's involvement is that he's such a clear proof that the graphology is crap. Him being a genius and all.

    It's like when 2 students pass in the exact same assignment and get 2 vastly different marks.

    It's interesting but why does slashdot care about some doodles? I'm sure most of us don't. It has nothing to do with tech or tech-related news. If, however, there was an improved version of quick sort hidden in the doodles we should all sit up. Is there a way to mod the original articles down?

    1. Re:Is this the Bill obesssion? by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Insightful
      No, it isn't proof that graphology is crap. It is just a reminder that ANY qualitative analysis will be influenced by your own preconceived notions.

      But you're right. It is like when two students hand in the same assignment and get two different marks. The professor reads the paper and assigns a grade based in part upon the quality of the paper, but in part on preconceived notions of that student's performance. It's human nature.

      Now if none of these people had the slightest idea that it was believed to be Mr. Blair's, then that would prove that either graphology is crap, those people din't know what they were doing, or Mr. Gates is unstable and not a natural leader. There's not enough evidence here to say more than that.

      From everything I've read, Mr. Gates got lucky by buying MS-DOS from someone who didn't know its value, then used that as a springboard to buy other technologies and hire other people. That's not leadership. It's business. There's a big difference. Only the people directly under him can truly speak for his leadership skills or his stability. I don't see any volunteers coming forward, though.

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    2. Re:Is this the Bill obesssion? by Brandybuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's not leadership. It's business.

      Dislike him all you want, but the lack of technical skills does not equate to a lack of leadership. As a businessman, he is one of the world's top leaders. Yes, he got a few lucky breaks and happened to be in a few right places at the right time. As the old saying goes, "when opportunity knocks, answer the door". Bill Gates is a leader because he answered the door, walked through it, and kept on going. How many of us would have bet our fledgling business in 1981 by buying a CPM/86 clone?

      Or to put it another way, you don't take a two man firm financed off your mother's credit cards and shape it into a monopoly with 90%+ marketshare by being a follower.

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    3. Re:Is this the Bill obesssion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Then you need to read more.

      Not to mention evaluate your own statements. Using the tech to springboard other technologies is smart. Hiring other people around you to support a moving product is smart. Mobilizing at the right time is smart. Amassing resources is smart. The middle two have factors indicating good leadership.

      Frankly, organizing people well despite your flaws indicates quite a deal of leadership.

      Heck, knowing a business opportunity and moving on it...yes, it includes luck, but also mobility in decision making. Yes, he has a rich father, yes, he was gifted with above average technical intelligence, but you still have to DO quite a number of things to amass the fortune and company he has. /. readers bash the rich for not doing anything with money; he did. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and still did something with his life. People bash the rich for not giving back; he did and does significantly through his foundation. /.ers frequently claim smarts is being underappreciated in the US; then why are you attacking him almost on those very lines?

      Yes, business tactics do not indicate leadership by themselves. However, forming a multi-billion dollar company needs luck, intelligence, and leadership. Frankly, he's been on the front lines with Microsoft and was more so in the past, and despite all the MS bashing, he did make it into a monopoly, which surprisingly was his true miscalculation and the success was used against him.

      iow, despite the millions of naysayers, the talk, the ability to mobilize as he did, the only way that he was was taken down was because he was too successful and manipulative of the power he had already amassed.

      Further, why is it any surprise that Gates has his flaws? Maybe you are lucky and fortunate to have surrounded yourself with good people. But looking at the average person, and a comparison of the extremes to that average, Gates has fewer mental flaws than the norm. You just know about them because you and others like to nitpick at every damn thing.

      Frankly, it's the /. bully tactics similar to those used against nerds in school--find someone you don't like, group together, and bash them for being successful, being smart, etc. You talk about leadership versus the business success as being different things.

      The /. editors have gone on a recent run of anti-Gates the person run; you dislike MS? Then target the operating system. Don't target the man for being a human being and, *gasp*, having flaws. If you allow this to continue, you have little reason to be pissed if someone says you shouldn't use GPL software because Stallman is a dick.

  22. Re:Tony Blair, Bill Gates, Bono and you are in a l by JPDeckers · · Score: 4, Funny
    Tony Blair, twice.

    Oh, wait, this is slashdot, wrong answer:)

  23. Re:Speaking as a geek... by Xilman · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Ahhh but Gates is not a geek. He is a business man. A cunning business man at that. He knows little about technology other than what most salesmen know. He doesnt' have a deep understanding of the "how" of computing, mostly just the "why".

    Wrong, wrong, wrong!

    Have you ever met Bill? I have. He most certainly has the geek nature. He most certainly does have a deep understanding of the "how" of technology and asks very penetrating questions if you're demonstrating something to him. He's a good business man too, but don't let that lead you into underestimating his technical abilities.

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  24. Re:Congrats, Einstein by drfireman · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can bend spoons. It's hard to explain to a lay-person, but it just takes a bit of ... I don't know how to describe it, call it "leverage." I would be the last to call my powers extraordinary, this is really a power that is latent in all of us, but usually suppressed due to a mental block I will call, in shorthand, "respect for silverware."

    Handwriting analysis is also not complete crap. The other day, my wife went shopping, and correctly bought an item that I had written down on our shopping list, even though I myself couldn't read my own handwriting.

  25. Re:Speaking as a geek... by bushidocoder · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Larry Osterman wrote an article once where he talked about a presentation he had with Bill about a portion of the IPX stack in NT4. Bill wasn't familiar with the project prior to the meeting, so it started off with Larry just telling him what was supposed to be accomplished.

    After a couple minutes, they got into the technical part and after Bill had spent two or three minutes looking over stack trace information he abruptly starts screaming at the team about how the memory footprint was too large, and then stopped, thought a minute, and accounting for a dependant project off the top of his head, spit out what he thought was the appropriate memory size for the stack. Everyone in the room stared at him slack-jawed - he quoted a number that was too small by half. No one outside the marketing department would make up a number like that.

    But they had an explicit order from BillG to rewrite the stack to that size, so they went back to the drawing board and, after bringing in some more BSD hackers, realized that not only was his number achieveable, but he'd hit the number they could theoretically reach given the dependencies with other portions of the system right on the head. Although that section of NT has been revisitted in every version since NT4.0, no one has been able to improve on the memory footprint of that section of the kernel.

    That's not neccesarily the sign of a genius - I know people who can look at a database and give the same sort of summary judgements. But when a man can make realizations like that within 10 minutes of having learned about a technology, at a bare minimum you have to give him credit for being a geek.

  26. Amusing by Pan+T.+Hose · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In other words, graphology is BS and the people who analyzed it already had a preconceived notion about whose it was and made the appropriate BS analyses.

    Graphology is just as laughable as astrology, acupuncture or homeopathy. Here's a nice experiment for your amusement: when you meet a "graphologist" who'd like to demonstrate her amazing "skills" to you, be sure to make an experiment using text copied from some newspaper, the same text written by all of the tested people who had no contact with the graphologist before and during the handwriting examination at all. Observing the graphologist's face when she doesn't have "side channels data" and no interaction with people to play with "cold reading" is a trully hilarious experience.

    "This shape might sometimes mean that maybe some kind of a impatience... am I right?"
    "Just keep going, I don't want to disturb you!"

    And the most funny thing is that unlike psychics they can't just make up some dumb excuses that they feel some disturbance of Force or that the Angels are scared by the camera, because they are supposed to be scientists. Looking at someone's writing you can usually tell the gender and age--the same I can guess reading someone's palm... Or foot... Or arse! Does it make me an arsologist?

    For more interesting informations read: Wikipedia article on graphology, James Randi's comments on graphology (by The Amazing Randi of JREF who offers "a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event"), graphology in the Skeptic's Dictionary by Robert T. Carroll, PhD, and of course the excellent Quackwatch paper How Graphology Fools People by Barry L. Beyerstein, PhD. This is not the first time we can laugh at psedoscientific morons on Slashdot thanks to The Amazing Randi.

    And a comment to CmdrTaco: please add the Monty Python foot to the article because without it we look like a bunch of imbeciles. What next? Bill Gates tested by the lie detector and a story posted on science.slashdot.org? Please just add the foot. Thanks.

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