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Elektro, the Oldest U.S. Robot

Roland Piquepaille writes "If you happen to be around Ohio this coming fall, don't miss an exhibit at the Mansfield Memorial Museum featuring the 7-foot-tall Elektro, the oldest robot in the U.S.. "Elektro is the only survivor of a group of eight robots created by Westinghouse in Mansfield between 1931 to 1940 for several hundred thousand dollars each," according to the article from the Plain Dealer, Cleveland. Back in 1939, Elektro was able to walk, talk, raise and lower his arms, turn his head and move his mouth as he spoke. It used a 78-rpm record player to simulate conversation and had a vocabulary of more than 700 words. It even appeared in a long-time forgotten movie, "Sex Kittens Go to College," also known as "The Beauty and the Robot." Primidi.com has an overview containing other details, references and pictures."

251 comments

  1. Oldest robot by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Used in porn.

    Go figure.

    1. Re:Oldest robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MMmm... robot porn.

    2. Re:Oldest robot by Frymaster · · Score: 3, Informative
      Used in porn.

      "sex kittens go to college" is not porn... really. technically it's labelled as "comedy", although i think most of the laughs were unintentional.

      full rundown on this 1960, black-n-white, b-grade, cheesecake movie here.

    3. Re:Oldest robot by Insipid+Trunculance · · Score: 1

      Used in porn. "sex kittens go to college" is not porn... really. technically it's labelled as "comedy", although i think most of the laughs were unintentional. full rundown on this 1960, black-n-white, b-grade, cheesecake movie here.

      We need a new mod here, -10 ,Spoilsport.

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  2. Nooooo by OverlordQ · · Score: 0

    after reading 'oldest robot' and 'Sex Kittens Go to College', Nothing to See Here. Move Along has oh so much more meaning to it.

    brb, have go figure out how to jab a fork in my imagination.

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    Your hair look like poop, Bob! - Wanker.
    1. Re:Nooooo by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Hey, at least it wasn't about under-aged robots. Hand me the fork when you're done with it.

      --
      It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
  3. Movie warning by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny
    At first glance it looks like the movie mentioned in the article (Sex Kittens Go to College) is a nerd's dream come true, containing both sex and robots! However, upon looking at the reviews at imdb, the first one I saw was:


    [Watching this movie was] Like watching Judge Judy do aerobics in a thong


    Ahh thanks so much for that wonderful imagery.

  4. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #include

  5. Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool

  6. That's impressive by chris09876 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm really impressed that they had something like that over 60 years ago. ...that's before computers! Robots now are inherently thought of as computerized I think... it's interesting to see that there really are mechanical versions of them. (I know there are still mechanical robots/machines, but they're almost always controlled by a computer - this one clearly wasn't).

    1. Re:That's impressive by brainstyle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think The Tick said it best: "Science in those days worked in broad strokes! They got right to the point! Nowadays it's always molecule, molecule, molecule... "

      --
      "Why can't everyone just be straight with me?"
      "Because we live in a bendy world, dear."
    2. Re:That's impressive by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I suppose this is getting a bit nit-picky but your post about how people associate robots with computers instead of mechanics is a bit bizarre since the same thing could be said about computers themselves! Recall that Babbage and Huygens had working mechanical computers long before there was freely-available electricity. I could rewrite your above comment replacing "robots" with "computers" and it would be equally true of the first non-digitial computers:

      I'm really impressed that they had something like that over 60 years ago. ...that's before electricity! Computers now are inherently thought of as electronic I think... it's interesting to see that there really are mechanical versions of them. (I know there are still mechanical computers, but they're almost always controlled by electricity - this one clearly wasn't).

      GMD

    3. Re:That's impressive by uberdave · · Score: 1

      Fah! Leonardo DaVinci was designing these things over 500 years ago.

    4. Re:That's impressive by cmstremi · · Score: 1

      I think Arthur said it best when he said "Not in the face!"

      Now I'm off to Old Glory to check on my robot insurance policy.

    5. Re:That's impressive by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      Robots go back farther than that. Never heard of Steam Man?

      Oh, wait. It's not April 1 yet.

    6. Re:That's impressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I think Bones said it best with his observation on *BSD:
      It's dead, Jim.
    7. Re:That's impressive by Nosbig · · Score: 1

      I am actually a member of IARC, the ham radio club hosting that particular website. I saw some snippets of Elektro on Jack Weeks' web page middle of last year, and it was amazing to see this early robot in person when it was first on display. He stands a great deal taller than one would expect.

      I would recommend that anyone in the north central Ohio area stop and see Elektro when he comes back to the Memorial Museum. And while you're at it, see the old Richland Reformatory where "The Shawshank Redemption" was filmed, sans wall.

  7. don't support roland! full text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you happen to be around Ohio this coming fall, don't miss an exhibit at the Mansfield Memorial Museum featuring the 7-foot-tall Elektro, the oldest U.S. robot with its 65 years. "Elektro is the only survivor of a group of eight robots created by Westinghouse in Mansfield between 1931 to 1940 for several hundred thousand dollars each," according to this article from the Plain Dealer, Cleveland (free reg. is sometimes necessary). Back in 1939, Elektro was able to walk, talk, raise and lower his arms, turn his head and move his mouth as he spoke. It used a 78-rpm record player to simulate conversation and had a vocabulary of more than 700 words.Thousands of people enjoyed Elektro at the New York World's Fair in 1939. It even appeared in a long-time forgotten movie, "Sex Kittens Go to College," also known as "The Beauty and the Robot." Read more...

    Other information about this exhibit is featured on this page at the Mansfield & Richland County Convention & Visitors Bureau website.

    "Elektro was the first true robot ever built in the United States," said museum director, Scott Schaut. "Built in total secrecy by Westinghouse, Elektro was promoted as the ultimate appliance. In fact, it was thought that Elektro would one day be able to cook, do laundry and entertain the children."

    But let's return to the Plain Dealer article.

    [After being restored for $500 by Jack Weeks, whose father, John, helped create the robot in Mansfield for Westinghouse,] Elektro is back home -- repaired, polished and drawing crowds to the Mansfield Memorial Museum. Recently, he was taken off display for repairs, but he will return in September.

    "We had more than 4,000 people come to the museum to see Elektro since September," said Schaut. "It was wildly popular, and a good way to get people to visit the museum."

    Jack Weeks with the restored Elektro Here Jack Weeks, 70-year old, stands close to the 7-foot, 65 year-old Elektro (Credit: Mansfield Memorial Museum).

    Elektro, like the other robots built by Westinghouse seventy years ago, was pretty expensive, but also brought back money.

    Elektro is the only survivor of a group of eight robots created by Westinghouse in Mansfield between 1931 to 1940. The company predicted the robots -- built for an estimated cost of several hundred thousand dollars each -- would be the ultimate household appliances, handling daily drudge work such as washing dishes and cutting the grass.

    [But] "they made millions off him," Schaut said. "People came in from all over the world to see him at the New York World's Fair. In the late 1940s and through the 1950s, Elektro traveled around the country from appliance store to store. People flocked to see him. It was a hugely successful promotion."

    Elektro at the New York World's Fair in 1939 If you want to know more about Elektro, David H. Szondy has assembled photos and drawings from the past on this page. This one shows Elektro at the New York World's Fair in 1939 (Credit: David H. Szondy).

    Later, Elektro went to Hollywood.

    Elektro did what many Californians do -- he wound up in the movies. He played Thinko, a giant robot that handicapped horses, in the 1960 film "Sex Kittens Go to College (1960)," also known as "The Beauty and the Robot," with Mamie Van Doren and Tuesday Weld.

    Now that you're a fan of Elektro, you might want to buy an image. From this page, you can buy one from Corbis. But be sure to have your credit card with you. A small version (7.29 x 9.11 cm) costs $90 while a larger one (17.09 x 21.36 cm) goes for $200! Personally, I think these prices are outrageous.

    Sources: Michael Sangiacomo, The Plain Dealer, Cleveland, February 9, 2005; and various websites

    1. Re:don't support roland! full text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      gracias.

      here are the links to the images roland stole:

      Mansfield Tourism Page

      davidszondy.com

    2. Re:don't support roland! full text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So tell me again why this doesn't violate copyright law?

    3. Re:don't support roland! full text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Credit: Mansfield Memorial Museum)
      (Credit: David H. Szondy) ...

    4. Re:don't support roland! full text by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

      The AC's links to the Mansfield Tourism Bureau (MTB) do not violate copyright law because they are "links". The require the reader to click on them to go to the originating site.

      If the AC had copied and pasted the text from the MTB site into his/her slashdot post, that could violate copyright law (if the MTB had indeed copyrighted their material). Note that there is also the issue on whether or not an AC could receive revenue for posting MTB text onto Slashdot (highly unlikely).

    5. Re:don't support roland! full text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lets have a look at Rolands "added content" (in bold) to difference the cut&paste

      If you happen to be around Ohio this coming fall, don't miss an exhibit at the Mansfield Memorial Museum featuring the 7-foot-tall Elektro, the oldest U.S. robot with its 65 years. "Elektro is the only survivor of a group of eight robots created by Westinghouse in Mansfield between 1931 to 1940 for several hundred thousand dollars each," according to this article from the Plain Dealer, Cleveland (free reg. is sometimes necessary). Back in 1939, Elektro was able to walk, talk, raise and lower his arms, turn his head and move his mouth as he spoke. It used a 78-rpm record player to simulate conversation and had a vocabulary of more than 700 words.Thousands of people enjoyed Elektro at the New York World's Fair in 1939. It even appeared in a long-time forgotten movie, "Sex Kittens Go to College," also known as "The Beauty and the Robot." Read more...

      Other information about this exhibit is featured on this page at the Mansfield & Richland County Convention & Visitors Bureau website.

      "Elektro was the first true robot ever built in the United States," said museum director, Scott Schaut. "Built in total secrecy by Westinghouse, Elektro was promoted as the ultimate appliance. In fact, it was thought that Elektro would one day be able to cook, do laundry and entertain the children."

      But let's return to the Plain Dealer article.

      [After being restored for $500 by Jack Weeks, whose father, John, helped create the robot in Mansfield for Westinghouse,] Elektro is back home -- repaired, polished and drawing crowds to the Mansfield Memorial Museum. Recently, he was taken off display for repairs, but he will return in September.

      "We had more than 4,000 people come to the museum to see Elektro since September," said Schaut. "It was wildly popular, and a good way to get people to visit the museum."

      Jack Weeks with the restored Elektro Here Jack Weeks, 70-year old, stands close to the 7-foot, 65 year-old Elektro (Credit: Mansfield Memorial Museum).

      Elektro, like the other robots built by Westinghouse seventy years ago, was pretty expensive, but also brought back money.

      Elektro is the only survivor of a group of eight robots created by Westinghouse in Mansfield between 1931 to 1940. The company predicted the robots -- built for an estimated cost of several hundred thousand dollars each -- would be the ultimate household appliances, handling daily drudge work such as washing dishes and cutting the grass.

      [But] "they made millions off him," Schaut said. "People came in from all over the world to see him at the New York World's Fair. In the late 1940s and through the 1950s, Elektro traveled around the country from appliance store to store. People flocked to see him. It was a hugely successful promotion."

      Elektro at the New York World's Fair in 1939 If you want to know more about Elektro, David H. Szondy has assembled photos and drawings from the past on this page. This one shows Elektro at the New York World's Fair in 1939 (Credit: David H. Szondy).

      Later, Elektro went to Hollywood.

      Elektro did what many Californians do -- he wound up in the movies. He played Thinko, a giant robot that handicapped horses, in the 1960 film "Sex Kittens Go to College (1960)," also known as "The Beauty and the Robot," with Mamie Van Doren and Tuesday Weld.

      Now that you're a fan of Elektro, you might want to buy an image. From this page, you can buy one from Corbis. But be sure to have your credit card with you. A small version (7.29 x 9.11 cm) costs $90 while a larger one (17.09 x 21.36 cm) goes for $200! Personally, I think these prices are outrageous.

      Sources: Michael Sangiacomo, The Plain Dealer, Cleveland, February 9, 2005; and various websites
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      thats great editing right there, well worth adding those really insightful comments instead of just linking to the fucking ar

  8. This thread... by christopherfinke · · Score: 3, Funny
    It even appeared in a long-time forgotten movie, "Sex Kittens Go to College."
    This thread is worthless without pics!

    Oops, wrong website...
  9. pictures by omar_armas · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Bellows for smoking? It's Bender!

    2. Re:pictures by omar_armas · · Score: 1

      Kind with women, admired by gentlemen.
      This robot is my hero!

      Omar

    3. Re:pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      NO WONDER Elektro was such a stud...
      look at the SIZE of that torso orifice!
      The implications are cache-flushing.

      Yet another reason why robot porn > human porn,
      besides obviously the superior acting talent.

      Robot: "Greetings, I am here to clean your pool"

      Bao chica bao baaaaao!

    4. Re:pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out the link to interior shot at the bottom of that page. "Bellows for smoking". Almost puts Bender to shame...

    5. Re:pictures by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      No no no - this thread is worthless without pictures of sex kittens!

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      make install -not war

    6. Re:pictures by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Informative

      Now this thread is worthful.

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      make install -not war

    7. Re:pictures by DrKyle · · Score: 1

      How great is that picture of his insides, and yet they show him smoking a cigarette! Man those tobacco companies even managed to get the first robots hooked.

    8. Re:pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummm...Duuuh! Look up the derivation of the word Futurama, sometime....

    9. Re:pictures by Migrant+Programmer · · Score: 1

      No no no - this thread is worthless without pictures of sex kittens!

      Here you go: http://www.oralse.cx/

    10. Re:pictures by flu1d · · Score: 1

      Now I see why this is the only survivor of 8. Appearently they gave the robots the ability to Smoke

    11. Re:pictures by lordofthechia · · Score: 1

      From the link (emphasis mine):

      "Other exciting things that Elektro could do was move his head and arms, count on his fingers, recognise colours, smoke cigarettes, and talk. Is that Vegas I hear calling?"

      Well , guess we know what happened to his 7 brothers and why electro can't talk anymore....

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      Georgia Tech, the leader in Chia(tm) technology.
    12. Re:pictures by lawpoop · · Score: 1
      He's got billows for smoking! How retarded is that? Does he need a cigarette break after doing chores? Will he snap on you if he doesn't get his fix? Does smoking make him seem less creepy around the house? Do I have to buy him cigarettes? Does a smoker need an artificial smoking buddy? Or is this after coitus?

      Man, that blows my mind. The 1940's were a whole different period. He doesn't eat or drink, but man, they made sure that he can light up!

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      Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
      -- Pablo Picasso
    13. Re:pictures by mrjb · · Score: 1

      no no no no no. Sex kittens are all fine and great but where's the boobies?

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    14. Re:pictures by mrjb · · Score: 1

      i'm so gonna regret that post.

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  10. Technology and sex by Datamonstar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why does sex and technology mix so well? Just think of the internet.

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    The eternal struggle of good vs. evil begins within one's self.
    1. Re:Technology and sex by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Why does sex and technology mix so well? Just think of the internet.

      There's sex on the internet? Wow! You learn something new every day.

    2. Re:Technology and sex by Datamonstar · · Score: 1

      I'm just refering to the whole "Look! I made a robot! Let's make a porno!!!!" mentality that obviously followed the robot's creation.

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      The eternal struggle of good vs. evil begins within one's self.
    3. Re:Technology and sex by wza · · Score: 1

      mix well? all slashdotters that haven't had sex in five years please move to the left... exactly what i thought, we're tipping over.

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      bada bing
    4. Re:Technology and sex by NardofDoom · · Score: 1

      I tried to have sex on the Internet, but I started to chafe and I broke my keyboard.

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      You have two hands and one brain, so always code twice as much as you think!
  11. Bullshit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Look inside this thing...I bet you find a very old, very cramped, and very ornery midget surrounded by all sorts of levers, buttons, switches, and pedals. ^_^

    1. Re:Bullshit! by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Look inside this thing...I bet you find a very old, very cramped, and very ornery midget surrounded by all sorts of levers, buttons, switches, and pedals.

      If he's American, it's still a robot. <ducks>

    2. Re:Bullshit! by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

      ... AND a laptop, you insensitive clod!

      cheers,
      Elektro

  12. Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Roland Piquepaille and Slashdot: Is there a connection?

    I think most of you are aware of the controversy surrounding regular Slashdot article submitter Roland Piquepaille. For those of you who don't know, please allow me to bring forth all the facts. Roland Piquepaille has an online journal (I refuse to use the word "blog") located at http://www.primidi.com/ . It is titled "Roland Piquepaille's Technology Trends". It consists almost entirely of content, both text and pictures, taken from reputable news websites and online technical journals. He does give credit to the other websites, but it wasn't always so. Only after many complaints were raised by the Slashdot readership did he start giving credit where credit was due. However, this is not what the controversy is about.

    Roland Piquepaille's Technology Trends serves online advertisements through a service called Blogads, located at www.blogads.com. Blogads is not your traditional online advertiser; rather than base payments on click-throughs, Blogads pays a flat fee based on the level of traffic your online journal generates. This way Blogads can guarantee that an advertisement on a particular online journal will reach a particular number of users. So advertisements on high traffic online journals are appropriately more expensive to buy, but the advertisement is guaranteed to be seen by a large amount of people. This, in turn, encourages people like Roland Piquepaille to try their best to increase traffic to their journals in order to increase the going rates for advertisements on their web pages. But advertisers do have some flexibility. Blogads serves two classes of advertisements. The premium ad space that is seen at the top of the web page by all viewers is reserved for "Special Advertisers"; it holds only one advertisement. The secondary ad space is located near the bottom half of the page, so that the user must scroll down the window to see it. This space can contain up to four advertisements and is reserved for regular advertisers, or just "Advertisers". Visit Roland Piquepaille's Technology Trends (http://www.primidi.com/ ) to see it for yourself.

    Before we talk about money, let's talk about the service that Roland Piquepaille provides in his journal. He goes out and looks for interesting articles about new and emerging technologies. He provides a very brief overview of the articles, then copies a few choice paragraphs and the occasional picture from each article and puts them up on his web page. Finally, he adds a minimal amount of original content between the copied-and-pasted text in an effort to make the journal entry coherent and appear to add value to the original articles. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Now let's talk about money. Visit http://www.blogads.com/order_html?adstrip_category =tech&politics= to check the following facts for yourself. As of today, December XX 2004, the going rate for the premium advertisement space on Roland Piquepaille's Technology Trends is $375 for one month. One of the four standard advertisements costs $150 for one month. So, the maximum advertising space brings in $375 x 1 + $150 x 4 = $975 for one month. Obviously not all $975 will go directly to Roland Piquepaille, as Blogads gets a portion of that as a service fee, but he will receive the majority of it. According to the FAQ, Blogads takes 20%. So Roland Piquepaille gets 80% of $975, a maximum of $780 each month. www.primidi.com is hosted by clara.net (look it up at http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/index. jhtml ). Browsing clara.net's hosting solutions, the most expensive hosting service is their Clarahost Advanced (http://www.uk.clara.net/clarahost/advanced.php ) priced at £69.99 GBP. This is roughly, at the time of this writing, $130 USD. Assuming Roland Piquepaille pays for the Clarahost Advanced hosting service, he is out $130 leaving him with a maximum net profit of $650 each month. Keeping your website registered with Network Solutions cost $34.99 per year, or about $3 per m

    1. Re:Here we go again... by antimatt · · Score: 2, Informative
    2. Re:Here we go again... by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Frankly, I can't fathom why you're even concerned with this. Lots and lots of sites out there base their sole existence (and advertising revenue) from rehashing others work. Slashdot, is in fact one of those sites. Why should Cmdr Taco make so much money of merely linking to other sites information, using your logic. Oh, sure, they provide a useful discussion forum on the topics, but so what? I'm certain Slashdot makes far more money than Roland does.

      Frankly, the fact that he actually DOES get a lot of hits tells me that he's providing a useful service, and $80 an article does not seem like a lot of money (considering it probably takes him at least an hour or more to organize, maintain, and submit them).

      I'm not in any way connected to him, in fact this is the first i've even heard about it. It just seems like such a non-issue to me and I can't fathom why you and others get your panties in a bunch over it. There are much more important thing to worry about than whether some guy squeeks a few bucks off submitting articles that are clearly enjoyed by a large number of people visiting Slashdot.

      Hell, I say good for Roland. If someone can make money AND provide a useful service to people like us, more power to you.

    3. Re:Here we go again... by PerlDudeXL · · Score: 1

      usually my story submissions are rejected ...

      is there an option to hide Roland Piquepaille submissions like it is possible for /. editors?

    4. Re:Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh man, that just makes my day.

    5. Re:Here we go again... by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the tipoff, mate :).

      cheers,
      Your friendly neighborhood Wikipedian

    6. Re:Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Roland's articles are NEVER rejected wouldn't it stand to reason that the editor and Roland are one in the same? There lies the rub.

      The editor is already making money as the editor, plus said editor then makes a little more money by directing to personal journal thus the Slashdot reader is coerced into the scam. Slashdot could simply post directly to the article.

      Maybe my standards are a little different than yours but I find this underhanded and greedy.

    7. Re:Here we go again... by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No, actually, it doesn't stand to reason at all. In fact, i'm not even sure I can see how you can jump to that conclusion.

      Maybe he's just good at formatting his articles in such a way that he piques the interest of the editor. Maybe he's good at chosing content the editors like.

      Slashdot doesn't usually edit articles. They would be much more likely to just reject an article rather than go through the work to track down the originals and rewrite the submission. They rely (mostly) on use submission.

      This whole conspiracy theory really makes no sense to me.

    8. Re:Here we go again... by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      Look, friend, if you're going to rant about a site that offers no original content except verbatim pastes from an article in order to direct eyeballs to ad impressions, look no further than slashdot

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      I am no longer wasting my time with slashdot
    9. Re:Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the difference is, slashdot uses maybe 5% of any article it links to, still telling where it comes from

      roland uses 100% without consent.
      he steals

      try searching google for any month old article from primidi as phrase (take a sentence and put it in "" on google)

    10. Re:Here we go again... by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 1

      As far as I can tell, he only used a small portion of the articles from two different web sites, indicates that their quotes (by quoting them) and providing links to the original content.

      Your claim doesn't appear to stand up to scrutiny, at least on this particular article. Fair use allows this sort of thing.

    11. Re:Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is OT here but "Roland Piquepaille" is probably the submitter's nick. If you do a whois on his website's domain, his real name is Primadi Serad.

    12. Re:Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is that they aren't his articles. They are cutting and pasting form the origional. Do not use the "his articles" when speaking of Roland's submissions.

      They are blatant attempts at skimming off Slashdot traffic and the connection to the Slashdot editors is much to obvious to ignore.

      It is this sort of activity that causes me not to be a subscriber here and to use ad-blocking browser extensions.

      Slashdot does have some great stories and I'm here because of that. It is a case of voting with my clicks.

    13. Re:Here we go again... by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 1

      They contain original content from him, even if they also contain unoriginal content. That makes them his articles.

      Why are you creating strawman arguments like this?

      I'm also not convinced there is any connection between slashdot editors and Roland. Just because his stories get accepted doesn't mean anything. It simply could mean that he's discovered the trick to gaining a slashdot editors interest, and thus assuring approval.

      In fact, nearly all of the articles i've submitted to Slashdot have been accepted as well. Maybe it's because a) I don't submit things that 100's of other people do. b) I word my submissions in such a way to pique interest and c) It contains content that is of interest to the editors.

      Those 3 factors are enough to almost guarantee acceptance of any article that conforms to them, regardless of who they come from.

      I still say, so long as he's not breaking copyright law (and it's not clear that he is, at least in the article we're talking about), and he's providing content of genuine interst to slashdot visitors that they might not find otherwise, and he can figure out a way to make money doing it, more power to him.

    14. Re:Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right on. I dont' click on his shit anymore, as soon as I noticed that you have to look at ads and click again to get to the real story.

    15. Re:Here we go again... by Eric604 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      It's maybe a problem but not mine, so fuck off you idiot

    16. Re:Here we go again... by Bagels · · Score: 1

      Arguably, Slashdot "adds" the comments section, as well as a decent categorization system, and a searchable index of pretty much every bit of news out there that might be interesting to a geek (sometimes several times over :) ). And it doesn't have to have ads, you know. That's what FireFox and AdBlock are for.

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    17. Re:Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It simply could mean that he's discovered the trick to gaining a slashdot editors interest, and thus assuring approval.

      So you're saying that his one line comments add value to the article?? His executive summaries are worth it? Are your eyes and your mind so broken that you can't make your own interpretations of the original article?

      Five years ago Slashdot was all about forming ones own interpretation of posted articles and debating those ideas in the comments area.

      Now I'm given the watered down version with someone else's editoral comments (if that what you call it) tossed on top of it.

      People are bitching about Roland because they want to hold on to those early Slashdot ideals. I don't think that they want to fund Primadi's crap ass editorial.

    18. Re:Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obiviously, your command of English only extends to obscenities and single sentences as is evidenced by most of your posts. Why not go back in your hole and learn how to write a paragraph without swearing; maybe those posts will get modded up.

    19. Re:Here we go again... by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 1

      While you're certainly within your right to criticize the quality of his work, and you're concern about the quality of submissions. I just don't think it's right to fabricate strawman excuses to back up your arguments.

      If your argument is about quality, make it so. Don't blather about how he's making money in the process, since that's an entirely different issue, and one that there is largely nothing wrong with (when done legally within the rights of fair use).

      The fact of the matter is,

      a) he's bringing information to the attention of people that are interested in it, and probably wouldn't have found it otherwise.

      b) So long as he's not violating fair use (and I'm not convinced that he is) then doing a) above is a service, even if he makes money in the process.

      c) He is giving credit where credit is due, linking to the original articles, and generating traffic (and advertising revenue) fo them as well. Chances are, he's generating more revenue than he might be taking away (from people that don't bother to follow the links) and thus isn't costing them anything.

      I understand that he hasn't always been this good at giving credit and linking, but he appears to be doing so now, and that's all that's important.

    20. Re:Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Roland or one of his buddies apparently removed the entry from Wikipedia. Trying to hide the fact that he's a thief? Probably.

    21. Re:Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously for the love of god, if you don't like what he's doing you should stop wasting your time writing your complains here - just direct them to his website hosting company at info@clara.net

    22. Re:Here we go again... by Eric604 · · Score: 1

      I'll.. as soon as you stop talking ill of others and mind you own bussines.

    23. Re:Here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about http://slashdot.org/~prostoalex/?

      Most Active Submitters
      338 prostoalex
      200 rpiquepa
      166 securitas

      the top story as I write this is from prostoalex. who also links to his blog.

    24. Re:Here we go again... by MrScience · · Score: 1

      I've never heard of this site, and it actually looks pretty good. He does a lot of research, and appears to pull in a lot of sources. Thanks for the link.

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    25. Re:Here we go again... by JavaRob · · Score: 1

      Actually, any user's rejected stories are not displayed to other users.

      Try it out. Logout and check your own user page. Fancy that, all of *your* stories are accepted, too!

      This is such a slick troll...

  13. not a solo project by I8TheWorm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Elektro also had a dog named Sparky, and they were introduced at the 1929 World's Fair. Here's another link for your viewing pleasure.

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    1. Re:not a solo project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What happened to the first law of robotics?
      GORO is the name of a robot that lives and works in JAPAN. He is very nice and has lots of friends at the school where he works. The children love him. He can walk and look at them and play games like KNUCKLES and MERCY. When there are no children near him, GORO scans the surrounding area with an INFRA-RED eye and fires a LAZER at anything that moves .
      and:
      LEACHIM was a talking robot that didn't move. He would ask the children questions and tell them if they had answered right or wrong. If they answered a very important question wrong, for example, about violence, LEACHIM would give them a small electric shock that the child would never forget.
    2. Re:not a solo project by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 1

      That site at donderevo.com appears to be to robots what Real Ultimate Power is to ninjas.

      I was waiting to get to the part where the robots flip out and kill people. I was also definitely pumped.

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  14. World War II by k96822 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yet another project abandoned because of WWII. It makes me wonder, if WWII hadn't happened, what would the world be like now? It seems we've stopped dreaming. Sure, we've made new technology because of WWII, but it is mostly technology to kill people.

    How would the family be today? Would we have to have the husband and wife work just to pay the mortgage? Because businesses learned that they can exploit women just as much as men to make money during WWII, it changed our family structure forever.

    I have to wonder; would we have flying cars today hadn't it been for WWII? Ah heck, probably not. After all, there is so much money in tires that some tire corporation would probably lock up the technology with litigation somehow.

    How many decades behind are we, anyway?

    1. Re:World War II by schnikies79 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Eh, actually we would be behind a couple decades without WWII. Research into physics and chemistry really accelerated during the war, perhaps enough that without it, even the transistor would be a somewhat more recent invention.

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    2. Re:World War II by JohnnyCannuk · · Score: 1

      Are you for real?

      If it weren't for WWII, we wouldn't have had jet aircraft or rockets as soon. Spread Spectrum communications and RADAR may not exist or have been years behind where they are today..

      But, of course, if WWII hadn't happened, we'd all be living under the thumb of either a facist Japanese dictatorship or under the thumb of a genocidal facist German dictarship. Millions might not have died in war, but millions more would have been exterminated in the Camps. Millions more would have been enslaved. And North America might be the new battle ground between the two. And since the Germans may have come up with the bomb, it is likely that the world of 2005 would be a smoking wasteland too harsh for even "Mad Max"...

      I for one will give up on the "robot in every house" "flying car in the driveway" dream to avoid that.

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    3. Re:World War II by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      "Yet another project abandoned because of WWII."

      Well, here's a similar project that was started because of WWII. It would have been as scary as hell if the Germans were able to mass-produce these babies.

    4. Re:World War II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please understand that Elektro was no more a robot than a simple runner-up to animatronics of the late 50s and 60s. What the article doesn't state was that the robot was completely controlled by remote. There was no "computer" inside of him, at all.

    5. Re:World War II by dustinbarbour · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hahah.. What a laughable comment..

      Seriously.. RADAR, nuclear power, jet aircraft, super glue, alarm clocks, spread spectrum communications.. the list is long and illustrious.

      War is one of the only thigns that gives private companies a reason to truly innovate. its sad that killing another man and defending ourselves is our biggest impetus to advance, but such is the case.

    6. Re:World War II by creysoft · · Score: 1

      I'm not entirely sure whether you're serious or not, but that picture is from a Fark.com* photoshop contest. To the best of our knowledge, the German national socialist party never attempted to build giant, walking robot suits.

      * It have been a SomethingAwful.com Photoshop Phriday.

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    7. Re:World War II by christopherfinke · · Score: 1
      It would have been as scary as hell if the Germans were able to mass-produce these babies.
      Bogus. The picture comes from a Fark Photoshop contest, where the goal was to create a hoax photo. I hope you didn't seriously believe that was true...
    8. Re:World War II by avandesande · · Score: 1

      the fact that hitler delayed funding for the jet fighters for two years probably was (one of) his biggest mistakes.

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    9. Re:World War II by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1
      My family has a wind-up, pendulum-type Seth Thomas alarm clock built about 1900.

      Radar was a fairly obvious development. Airplanes disrupt TV and radio reception to this day.

      Jet engines -- more generally, turbines -- are a logical development tracing back to Hero, more that 1900 years ago.

      Yes, WWII hurried along many developments, but your claims are too broad.

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    10. Re:World War II by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I thought fuel injection and turbo charging was developed or majorly hurried because of WWII.

      Heliarc(TM) welding was invented here, known as Gas Tungsten Arc Welding (GTAW) a.k.a. Tungsten Inert Gas (TIG). It was needed to speed up construction of aluminum airplanes.

      The space programs of the US and USSR got a massive kick start once the rocket engineers left (or were taken from) Germany after the war.

    11. Re:World War II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      first off the dual income required FUD is pretty darn fake for most professionals.

      No you do not need that BMW, the home theatre the 105 a month cable TV and a new dual G5 macintosh every 2 years.

      Most people can live and thrive a family on a single person's income. even down to $35,000.00 a year. (Gasp! no not in insane places like california.. we are talking about the other 95% of the country)

      buy a $89,000.00 home and live comfortably with you $700.00 a month mortgage, drive used cars that are 3-4 years old, and sane cars like a minivan or non luxury sedan. Ride a $200.00 bike take sane vacations, hell even afford a 15+ year old RV!

      idiots think thay NEED to drive that BMW,SAAB,Minicoop,SUV and have to live in a 2800+Sq foot home in the hills.

    12. Re:World War II by infinite9 · · Score: 1

      Because businesses learned that they can exploit women just as much as men to make money during WWII, it changed our family structure forever.


      Funny, I've always blamed the destruction of the american family on the greed of the me-first boomer generation. The economy revolved around the fact that only one person in a family worked. Therefore, if an average guy was going to buy a home, it was designed to be affordable ona single income. People had a certain amount of money. Then boomers discovered that they could have fat lifestyles if they both worked. Fuck their children, put them in daycare. So they were two income families living in one income economies. Then people had more disposable income, which created an upward pressure on housing prices, and really, everything else. Now, two incomes is required to maintain the same standard of living that our grandparents had. And now that the boomers are running corporate america, fuck the workers. As long as I get my bonus and my stocks go up half a tick. So much for job security.

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    13. Re:World War II by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      "Now, two incomes is required to maintain the same standard of living that our grandparents had."

      My grandfather didn't get shoes until he was about 10. He also had to shoot his own meat (usually squirrel) and pick up the shell casings so he could repack the bullets. Neither grandparent had a car until they were well in their 20s and they didn't own a house until they were in their early 30s. Most families I see with two incomes are spending the greater portion of that 2nd income on luxuries that were not available to my grandparents (cable/satellite TV, multiple cars, a whole array of electronics, restaurants, etc). I think that if you really went back to the standards of living my grandparents had, you could live comfortably off of one income.

    14. Re:World War II by k96822 · · Score: 1

      I apologize for not being more clear. What I meant was if WWII did not happen because there was no reason for it to happen. Hitler never came to power, etc. Of course the world would not be a better place if the conditions that led to WWII were not addressed.

      Also, you are completely right, all, to say that a great deal of technology developed from WWII for killing people. What I was thinking of is what other kinds of technology besides weapons would have arisen?

    15. Re:World War II by k96822 · · Score: 1

      When I said WWII not happening, I meant the reason for it happening as well, of course. I see your point, though; would we have jet aircraft or rockets? Even though jet aircraft and rockets were used to kill, the also have non-lethal uses. Would we even had gone to the moon?

    16. Re:World War II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GW's grand-dad was Hitler's banker. Henry Ford was also a fan of Hitler. If industry and banking had no qualms against making money off German conquests, the rest of us would probably sell out to the highest bid too.

      Take Haliburton for example......

    17. Re:World War II by k96822 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't we have invented many of those things, if not more, without WWII? The spirit of invention and imagination was well illustrated by the World's Fair. Perhaps, if it weren't for the interruption the war caused, we would have built even better versions of these things.

      What you're describing about private corporations represents today, after the war. Do you think the same would be true about corporations today if the war hadn't happened? I personally think so, since I believe patents and the squelching of new ideas is the natural and inevitable result of a capitalist society.

      It is so true, though. Humans have a special knack for killing other things. Maybe this is our real purpose on Earth after all?

    18. Re:World War II by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      I think one project that got delayed by World War II (in America) was television. Had WWII not occurred, then we might have seen broadcast TV in 1942-43 rather then 1946-47, which perhaps means that Survivor and American Idol would have come on the air 4 years earlier.

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    19. Re:World War II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Without WWII, there would be no slashdot. Of course there also would be no fark.com either, so it's a mixed bag. ;)

      You wouldn't have had the ENIAC, the great-granddaddy of all computers, without WWII. It was built to calculate (very accurate) artillery trajectory tables specifically for the war.

      Also, WWII gave us the internet via the invention of the atomic bomb, the cold war that followed, and DARPANET which was built to be nuke-proof.

    20. Re:World War II by mickyflynn · · Score: 0

      Firstly, the Japanese were every bit as horrific as the Germans. In fact, their unwillingness to die, and the fact that the general Japanese soldier believed in the whole of the cause (the average Fermacht soldier, a probably Catholic, average farmboy was hardly the an SS officer. All the Japanese would fight to the death, which is why the bomb was necessary. My mother worked for a Japanese company (Nichiminh) and one of her bosses was a Nagasaki survivor and said so.) Look at the history of the Pacific campaign some time. Secondly, National Socialism is a different breed from Fascism. National Socialism stresses Race as an intrigal part of being part of the State. In Fascism, Race is all but irrelevent, so long as people tow the line. Italy had no racial policy until after the pact with Germany and Japan, 10 years after Mussolini came to power. Fascism did adopt the Nazi "goose step," and the Nazis adopted the "fascist" Roman saulute. Fascism was a sort of grandiose attempt to return to the time of Caesar and Augustus. The Nazis drew on this, too, Mussolini being a role model of Hitler, also adopting Roman legionary standards (see 'Triumph of the Will' for instance). Some tools of pagentry and a hatred for Communism were common to both, however at their very core they are fundimentally different. Thirdly, there were no real poltical parties in Japan. The "Black Dragons," (I believe is the right name), were a secret society within Japan that believed was extremely Nationalist and extremely racially supremeicist. They operated within other countries, too, principly the United States and Brazil. That American shipping had no problems after Internment where as Allie-Friendly Brazil, which contains to this day the largest Japanese community out side of Japan, continued to have their ships sunk, is more or less proof that Internment was a well-calculated move. However, the Black Dragons may never have been so powerful in the United States anyway, so it is hard to tell, although they did their job on Brazil. So, Japan's leadership, members of this society, were closer to Nazis than fascists. Disclaimer: I do not dislike Japanese people. I took Japanese some in College, my mother worked for them, and I dated a Japanese-Brazillian once. My grand father was a navy officer and Pearl Habour survivor. However, everything I've said above is true and can be proven, so don't try and tag me as anti Japanese... not that I think they should have won or anything. I didn't say Internment was "good" just that were it wasn't in place, there was a high price paid. I dont really have an opinion on that subject.

    21. Re:World War II by chemical_9 · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the greatest invention of WWII!

    22. Re:World War II by k96822 · · Score: 1
      DARPANET which was built to be nuke-proof.

      Isn't it ironic that the government could build a system so physically bomb-proof, yet so susceptible to misuse? I'm surprised the government didn't go the exact opposite way. I wish they had; I'd have a lot less SPAM.

    23. Re:World War II by SandSpider · · Score: 1

      War is one of the only thigns that gives private companies a reason to truly innovate. its sad that killing another man and defending ourselves is our biggest impetus to advance, but such is the case.

      I fail to see why it's sad, rather than obvious, that survival is a big impetus to advance. That's one of the underlying premises of the theory of evolution, after all. That and sex are our primary reason for doing anything, and everything else happens afterwards.

      One day, perhaps, we'll be able to never have to be concerned with survival again, and we could just focus on bettering ourselves instead. However, for now, need should clearly outweigh want.

      =Brian

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    24. Re:World War II by CaptainAvatar · · Score: 1

      He didn't delay funding so much as kept changing the requirements, ie insisting that the Me262 be able to carry bombs, which set the project back a year or two. But yes, big mistake!

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  15. Don't say that phrase to someone eating.. by nathan+s · · Score: 1

    I did, and nearly got murdered.;-)

  16. This seems familiar to me... by lottameez · · Score: 1, Funny

    Elektro was able to walk, talk, raise and lower his arms, turn his head and move his mouth as he spoke.

    ...wow, just look how far technology has progressed since then!

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    1. Re:This seems familiar to me... by christopherfinke · · Score: 1
      just how far technology has progressed since then!
      I don't get it... Are you saying that President Bush is a robot, and thus implying that major technological advances in robot building must have occurred in order to allow him to slip undetected into the world of humans and even win two Presidential elections?

      Oh wait, it's a joke. Ha ha, I get it. That's pretty funny.
    2. Re:This seems familiar to me... by omar_armas · · Score: 1

      Please be fair, Elektro doesn't deserve such a bad comparisson.

      Omar

    3. Re:This seems familiar to me... by good+soldier+svejk · · Score: 1

      Poor comparison. The article said Elektro had a full 700 word vocabulary.

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  17. Medibot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MEDIBOT !

  18. bellows for smoking ? by Brigadier · · Score: 1



    Wow, isn't that something this robot was equipped with a bellows for smoking. Funny how times have changed. below is a link to a sectional drawing showing the inner workings of the robot.

    http://www.davidszondy.com/future/robot/elektro- in terior.jpg

  19. Sam Watterson quote by paulschroeder · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Because Robots are strong and their claws are made of metal.
    Robot Insurance: For when the metal ones come for you"

    1. Re:Sam Watterson quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robots prey on old people, attacking them in their sleep and stealing their pills, which the robots need to survive.

      Hahah, that was one of my favorite SNL skits ever..

    2. Re:Sam Watterson quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And when they get you in their arms you can't get away. Because robots are strong, and they're made of metal.

  20. It's not hip-hop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..it's Electro... prick.

  21. Klaatu? by mr100percent · · Score: 1

    Doesn't this bot remind you a bit of the robot from The Day the Earth Stood Still?

    OT, How come there are no more World's Fairs? Disney's EPCOT just doesn't do it for me anymore. Can't we see some futuristic cars and segways and all-digital homes all together instead of visiting the "Innoventions" exhibit?

    1. Re:Klaatu? by Zobeid · · Score: 1

      There are a couple of reasons why there aren't any more World's Fairs. . .

      1. Too many of them turned into financial busts.

      2. People have learned to fear science and technology.

    2. Re:Klaatu? by ghoti · · Score: 3, Informative

      There certainly still are world fairs. And this year's in Japan will have lots of robots, too.

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    3. Re:Klaatu? by snorklewacker · · Score: 2, Informative

      > How come there are no more World's Fairs?

      The "World's Fair" name was stuck onto the International Exposition (or just "Expo" as they're usually called), which is held every five years or so, in order to celebrate internationalism, the precursor to today's globalism. The name has since fallen out of favor, as the whole lookie-lookie novelty flavor "it's a small world after all" faddish style of internationalism that was the hallmark of the World's Fairs has since faded. It was never an official name.

      They haven't been held in the USA for a while, since they've often been expensive organizational disasters. One could argue though that we have so many conventions that we're having a nonstop expo in our own fashion.

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  22. The real question is.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can it run Linux?

    1. Re:The real question is.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean ... "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these..."

  23. How far we've come.... by NerdBuster · · Score: 0

    Good to see that in 70 years we have robots now that can do almost anything now......oh wait a sec Terminator was a movie.

  24. 65 golden years of progress by rd4tech · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1940 = "Robot able to walk, talk, raise and lower his arms, turn his head and move his mouth as he spoke."

    2005 = "Robot able to walk, talk, raise and lower his arms, turn his head and move his mouth as he spoke, AND, look cool, run and have a processor core that can calculate integrals if needed but unable to prove where 65 years of research have gone

  25. Elektro's best function in two words by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Funny
    Two words that best describe Elektro's most valuable function in the creation of all future robots.

    Prior Art.

    "Hel...lo. I...am...Elektro. I...am...prior...art...for...all...robots...to... come. Your...patent...is...invaild. Ha...ha...ha."

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    1. Re:Elektro's best function in two words by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

      :D Brilliant! Now where's my abacus ... Ima get me a patent!

  26. iron lungs by DirtyJ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe he's the only survivor because they all smoked!

  27. Awesome-O by Natchswing · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am Awesome-O. I generate movie scripts for the MPAA.

    1. Re:Awesome-O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy shit! who would put up an 3300x2550 image of a cartoon that is not exactely drawn to fine art standards? Talk about killing a fly with a big gun here ....

  28. Calling Sky Captain! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have an emergency protocol #90206.

  29. Robosapien! by cuteseal · · Score: 1

    OMG - A 7 foot Robosapien!

  30. Oh... by Rxke · · Score: 1

    Can't help but feel a bit dissapointed.
    initially I thought it was the first *industrial* robot. Cool as this thing is, it is in fact only an expensive toy. It doesn't really robota, or work, heehee...
    And what about the mmuch older automata, that played chess etc... Different ballpark perhaps, not relating to RUR (Rostrum's Universal Robot)

    1. Re:Oh... by William_Lee · · Score: 1

      "And what about the mmuch older automata, that played chess etc... " "The Turk" to which you refer was actually a fraud, a well done one albeit, but a hoax nonetheless. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turk

    2. Re:Oh... by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Good point. I recall reading about a robotic duck used to entertain people at the court of the last of the French kings. Essentially a complex windup toy.

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  31. Bender! by splatterboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    They gave Elektro "bellows for smoking", no mention about "funnel for beer" though, then put him in soft-core porn...

    Bender would be so proud! His grandpa was a sexy smoking robot! (blueprint:http://davidszondy.com/future/robot/ele ktro-interior.jpg)

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  32. Mandatory Roland Piquepailleing by MostlyHarmless · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm sure by the time I finish writing this there will be have a dozen comments about whether or not Roland Pickapeckofpickledpeppers is or is not a scummy plagiarist with a secret deal with the OSDN (Overlords of Slashdot Donations Network, that is), delivering vast quantities of cocaine in exchange for his stories automatically appearing on the slashdot front page.

    To save everyone else the trouble of repeating the same arguments over and over, why don't you just read the main crux of the complaint and an official response. Then kindly move along unless you have something new and dramatic to add, in which case you might be able to get in one or two posts before the OSDN thugs and/or hired assassins start knocking on your door ;-).

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    1. Re:Mandatory Roland Piquepailleing by MostlyHarmless · · Score: 0, Troll
      If there is a mistake...well, you should have used the 'Preview' button!


      Ah, whoops, that's what I get for not previewing. The main crux of the complaint should have been a link. Bummer.
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  33. It's not even really a robot. by Trespass · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's an automaton, like the show at Chuck E. Cheese or Vauban's duck.

    1. Re:It's not even really a robot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      *Whew* So my status as the oldest robot remains intact?

      -- Al Gore

  34. A little late ... by nemaispuke · · Score: 1

    The show is over according to the information on this page: http://www.mansfieldtourism.com/CVB_Site/Pages/ele ctro.htm/

  35. thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why not support Roland? He spent some time finding the article and submitting it. For which he makes a little money, at no cost to you. What's your problem with that? You're so vehement about getting stuff "for free" that you can't stand someone else benefitting, though you're still getting it for free? That goes beyond cheapness - you're a thief, who wants to steal from someone, even when it doesn't benefit you in the least. You'll even do the extra work of posting the full text to steal without benefit. You're really sick. BTW, why don't you avoid Slashdot altogether, as its staff and owners make a pretty healthy living off exactly the same kind of work as Roland, but with a guarantee.

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    1. Re:thief by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so roland gets the advertising revenue and not the original writer ?
      remind me that when i sell your "free" open source software, i will mention you honest !

    2. Re:thief by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not support Roland? He spent some time finding the article and submitting it. For which he makes a little money, at no cost to you. What's your problem with that?

      I don't speak for the AC who posted the article text when I say this but... When Roland submits something it gets posted to the main page. When other people submit things they may or may not. It appears to me that regardless of the content of what Roland links to Slashdot's editors post it.

      Other than the link under his name he should not be linking content that he has basically blogged from the web.

    3. Re:thief by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

      As I have posted dozens of times before, Roland may be breaking various copyright rules, since he copies and pastes partial and, sometimes, whole articles from other authors onto his website. He does NOT add anything to the articles, he just pastes the entire text into his own site. Many sites specifically state in their policies that their articles may NOT be copied for commercial purposes without written permission.

      OTOH, Slashdot, does not copy entire articles, it collects links to the original site. The original author can then receive any revenue, as is their right.

    4. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Roland posted a summary with two links: one to the Cleveland Plain Dealer story, and the other to his website, which itself links its second sentence back to the CPD, and to the museum's page. Even the CPD article mentions the museum's URL only in (nonclickable) text, at the very end of the article. He's doing a better job covering the robot story than the CPD, making less money, and (again) taking nothing from you to do it. In fact, he's even driving up traffic to that CPD article, increasing their ad revenue.

      If you mention me as much as Roland mentions the museum and the CPD, you'll be doing me a favor promoting my "free" software, which people will just click to get instead of paying you. Or indulging in your broken metaphor for linked journalism. You understand neither journalism nor business, Anonymous Coward. You just like anonymously picking on a public Slashdot figure.

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    5. Re:thief by OverlordQ · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Read

      I stole it from some comment here on /. by somebody I can't remember, so I take no credit for it.

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    6. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Slashdot links content that submitters blog from the Web. Why not? That's what the Web is - it's what most readable blogs are. I find Roland's submissions to Slashdot to be of at least the average quality of the other stories on the front page, usually above average. The simpler answer is that Roland has figured out what Slashdot editors, and thereby basically the Slashdot readers, like. Which is totally legitimate marketing - not slimy at all. If you have any actual evidence of collusion beyond readability, let's have it. Otherwise you're just trolling.

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    7. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      When I clickthru to Roland's site, I get his edited summary of another article elsewhere, linked to the sources. He editorializes his own take on its meaning and importance. It's standard journalism, and includes not just the traditional attribution, but a link to the original content. That's how journalism has evolved on the Net. How does this post - the entire text of the article, without actually linking to the page (with its ads that support it) - exceed Roland's traffic-generating promotion? It doesn't - it does exactly what you're complaining about, with no benefit to the producer of the original content.

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    8. Re:thief by Da_Biz · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I don't know what your definition of summary is, but as far as most readers are concerned, Roland doesn't summarize. Anyone with decent writing skills will tell you that developing an abstract or summary is far more than pasting in the first or last paragraph of an article. Roland adds very little value to the articles he is citing.

      I think the main gripe is that Roland's links do not go to primary source material. How many Slashdot articles have you read that takes you first to a journal like Roland's? They generally take you directly to the source.

      It's time for Slashdot's editors to raise the bar on story quality. I know too many engineers who've stopped reading Slashdot because the quality of the articles and reviewers has been declining.

    9. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I read it once when it was posted in response to a Roland submission. I still don't agree, and I deconstructed those economics to show how paltry a benefit the anti-Roland poster is apparently so jealous of. The bottom line: what does it cost you for Roland to make a small profit from his editorial and posting work?

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    10. Re:thief by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

      Here is the user policy from www.clevleand.com:

      You may not in any way make commercial or other unauthorized use, by publication, re-transmission, distribution, performance, caching, or otherwise, of material obtained through the Service, except as permitted by the Copyright Act or other law or as expressly permitted in writintg by this Agreement, Service Provider or the Service.

      Now for the million dollar question: Does Roland have expressed written permission from Clevelend.com and the hundreds of other sites he copies into his blog?

    11. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      This story links to the Cleveland Plain Deealer, itself just editing quotes from the museum, for context, with the Elektro exhibit, and to Roland's page. Which links to the CPD, and to the museum. He's generating traffic for them, and promoting the subject of the story itself, Elektro. His own page has an edited summary, citing sources. This is all standard linked journalism - even the CPD doesn't actually link to the museum URL they publish.

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    12. Re:thief by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

      Roland is permitted to 'link' to the Plain Dealer. He is NOT permitted to copy and paste the text of the article.

    13. Re:thief by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 1

      He doesn't need it. Copyright law has a concept known as "fair use", which allows the copying of some content for various uses, and his use of it seems like fair use to me.

    14. Re:thief by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1
      and his use of it seems like fair use to me.

      His use is a commercial use. He receives money from Blogads. Copying and providing proper attribution of an article for a college report is fair use. Commercial use on a blog is not.

    15. Re:thief by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      The simpler answer is that Roland has figured out what Slashdot editors, and thereby basically the Slashdot readers, like.

      Can't say much for the readers, but I still think there's the strong possibility that he's figured out the Slashdot editors like a little cash under the table. Why else would Slashdot editors continue to post all of his submissions despite protests?

    16. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      From the Slashdot homepage:

      "Elektro is the only survivor of a group of eight robots created by Westinghouse in Mansfield between 1931 to 1940 for several hundred thousand dollars each"

      also (as credited) from the CPD. Does Slashdot have that permission? Does the CPD have a position on whether Slashdot, or Roland, have crossed the line past fair use into plagarism or copyright violation?

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    17. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Because they're good? Why would the editors stop publishing his submissions just because some people complain, especially about a nonexistent quid-pro-quo?

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    18. Re:thief by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 1

      That's not true at all. The Copyright act makes no mention of whether commercial use is a factor in fair use. In fact, slasdhot reproduces exact text from other copyrighted sources all the time, and it's quite legal (and they make money off it).

      You might want to read up on what fair use is before you jump to conclusions. Start here.

      "In its most general sense, a fair use is any copying of copyrighted material done for a limited and "transformative" purpose such as to comment upon, criticize or parody a copyrighted work. Such uses can be done without permission from the copyright owner."

      He's clearly commenting upon the information, adding his own comments, that falls in line with fair use. He is using a pretty large portion of the work, though, and it's possible that this would negate the fair use aspect, but that's largely a judgement call and I don't think anyone here is qualified to make that kind of legal judgement.

    19. Re:thief by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the link. And, while it i strue that I am not qualified to make a legal judgement, I do believe that the text of the Stanford link backs up (most) of what I have been saying. IMO, Roland's usage is not "fair".

    20. Re:thief by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

      I think that this may answer your questions.

    21. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      So there you go. I do think it's debatable whether Roland is fairly using the CPD content, which typically would be a use which comments on the CPD content itself, not just reusing the CPD content to comment on the museum story itself. But, as that post to which you just linked makes clear, the lines are legal judgements. At the very least, CPD's lawyer should be making that judgement. If the CPD, an organization reknowned for its pragmatic fairness, doesn't complain about damage, it hardly seems like there is any. And the commercial benefits to Roland don't contradict the fairness of his use. So your dislike of Roland's practice seems baseless.

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    22. Re:thief by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

      Baseless?

      p.I disagree. Note that the Plain Dealer may not be aware that their material is being used in this manner. If that is the case, then their lack of complaint may be more because they aren't aware of it. And, since (I think) Roland's web server is located in Europe, how much effort would it take for the PD to enforce US Copyright?
    23. Re:thief by lrucker · · Score: 1
      Slashdot, does not copy entire articles, it collects links to the original site. The original author can then receive any revenue, as is their right.

      Or incur any bandwidth overage charges...

    24. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Given the effort your expending to stop Roland at Slashdot, why not tip off the Plain Dealer, and explain the dimensions of the "problem"? I'd be interested to see whether they make any claims. It certainly goes to the heart of the actual complaints.

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    25. Re:thief by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats a subjective thing you fucking idiot. I remember you and some post about somethign involving the fog of truth and a camera lense... let it be said, you're a hippy fucking idiot and I hope you choke and die on a flower or of aids.

    26. Re:thief by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Idiot. Such a fucking idiot. Why does it hurt me if he unethically makes money? Why does it hurt me if they sue so and so.

      Fucking narrow viewed idiot. Typical hippy...

    27. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Anonymous object Coward. I'm a recovering ex-hippie, and I will spit on your grave.

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    28. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      You're the fucking Anonymous fool Coward who can't even say how he's unethical. Hippie bashing went out with Nixon, you clown. No wonder you can't understand how you're a fool to care whether he can make money by helping you - that's demented hippie logic. You're running only on self-loathing, Anonymous hippie Coward.

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    29. Re:thief by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      I think the backlash is coming as a reaction to things that happened here a few months (?) ago. It seemed like Roland-submitted stories were getting approved at Slashdot at the rate of a half dozen or so per week. Just a guess.

    30. Re:thief by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      Not the whole text, no (in my estimation). Selected quotes that explain the content of the as yet unvisited link and are noted as being excerpts from the "original" source, yes.

      I do this all the time and credit the URL where I find interesting articles. In some cases the linked article is not, in fact, the original, but I don't have much control over that.

      Just my two-fifty on the subject.

    31. Re:thief by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

      Today, for the first time with any Roland post, I actually considered the "snitch" route. I passed on that option.

    32. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Then you're clearly not as interested in protecting CPD's rights as in "getting" Roland. Not exactly the kind of action taken by the righteous.

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    33. Re:thief by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but I think he was right with the point he was trying to make (minus the name calling). If the house next to you is getting robbed, why get upset about it? I mean, it's not like you're losing anything.

    34. Re:thief by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Except it's not at all clear that Roland is unethical, that he's taking anything from anyone. It seems much more clear that he's adding value, and getting compensated for it by those to whom he's delivering the value. As I mentioned in my post, surrounded by all the name calling back.

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  36. The most important part when designing a robot... by loic_2003 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...is to give it the ability to smoke: Smoking bot

  37. Re:Power Supply by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Moderation -1
    100% Troll

    Hey, that's not a Troll, it's Flamebait!

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  38. Wow! by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    Elektro's dog Sparko has worms! Follow the link from Roland's site for the pictures and look at the Sparko page and you will see that I speak the truth! ;)

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  39. Spanky? by serutan · · Score: 1

    Once, his legs were removed and his torso was hauled around Mansfield in a wagon.

    I think that might have been in an episode of Li'l Rascals. Oh-Tay!

  40. Silly Asses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "How come there are no more World's Fairs?"

    Because all that dreamers look forward to in the future these days is the rapture.

  41. These aren't the droids you're looking for by MikeyToo · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to the Mansfield Memorial Museum website http://www.mansfieldtourism.com/CVB_Site/Pages/ele ctro.htm:

    The exhibit will be on display at the Museum from September 7 through November 20, 2004.

    The exhibit is over. You can go about your business. Move along.

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  42. also used in bad club music by Doktor+Memory · · Score: 3, Interesting

    (I'm pretty sure that it was this Elektro that Meat Beat Manifesto sampled on the "Original Fire" album.)

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    1. Re:also used in bad club music by rekoil · · Score: 1

      The track on "Original Fire" is a remix of the track "Original Control" which originally appeared on the 1991 Satyricon album.

      Also, you referred to MBM as "bad club music". What say we take this outside, 'k? :)

    2. Re:also used in bad club music by jasperc · · Score: 1

      I'll hold him down, you hit him.

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    3. Re:also used in bad club music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      aforementioned MBM album RULES, is still listenable...standing the test of time...

    4. Re:also used in bad club music by brianerst · · Score: 1
      MBM's Satyricon and 99% are some of the best techno to come out of the 90s. I'm not a huge fan of their later stuff (though, as a completist, I have it all), but the early stuff is grade A.

      Of course, I'm also a huge fan of early 808 State, so who knows...

    5. Re:also used in bad club music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did they name the album after the NZ science-fiction convention?

    6. Re:also used in bad club music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i am electro

      my brain
      is bigger than
      yours

  43. It was not a robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Elektro was not really a robot in the traditional sense of the word. He was a early forerunner of animatronics, and a man with a remote control decided every one of his motions and voice responses.

    Can't find a link, but he was featured at one point on the History Channel. They showed some video of him talking to the crowd at the world's fair, telling some lame jokes that were recorded in a "robotty" voice to try and fool the audience. It worked pretty well.

    All in all, he's pretty fucking scary looking, yet at the same time a little fruity.

  44. yeah so.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Growing up in Mansfield, I am kinda suprised to see a dying town grace Slashdot. However this is just a town trying to grasp at a past long gone. Quite depressing.

    Let's celebrate a surviving robot from a factory that no longer exists in Mansfield. Let Mansfield be known for something other than the skiing, auto-racing, crooked law enforcement and the prison where Shawshank was filmed. Yeah.. I can see dollars signs with this addition. Reminds me of the Married with Children episode where the Bundys visit a southern town where the main attraction was to meet the man that met Andy Griffith. Grasp at whatever past you have before you both fade away.

    Please let Mansfield rust in peace and who ever leaves last, please turn the lights off in that dam carousel.

  45. Linux... by mitchell_pgh · · Score: 1

    I bet you can't get Linux running on THAT!!!!!

    1. Re:Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh pity...
      But surely windoze can (and as usual, giving the usual problems). At least there's no screen to display the BSOD :D

  46. Your comment has stayed?!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To be honest, I'm quite surprised this comment is still here. /. has, on MANY occasions, removed and/or rewritten content. I have been the victim atleast 100 times now.

    I have also had GOOD articles I write get completely and totally twisted around to say something completely different from the original intent.

    Personally, I don't normally read ANYTHING on /. anymore. I only use it to find decent articles pertaining to my feild, but even that content is beginning to lack.

    Slashdot is becoming less of "News for Nerds" and more of a "content and work by others that have nothing to do with anything, but we make money from it, please, keep paying us so you can do our work"

    1. Re:Your comment has stayed?!?!?! by Spunk · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it's because Michael is gone? Who abused the mod-bombing more than him?

  47. I think misread that. by OmgTEHMATRICKS · · Score: 0

    JENNIFER GARNER Elektro Robotic acting really can kill!

  48. Oldest Robot My Ass by spezz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Boilerplate is older than that.

    1. Re:Oldest Robot My Ass by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      Dude, I hope you know Boilerplate was a hoax. He was created by Paul Guinan, a graphic artist from Portland. The Pancho Villa thing was what really put it over the top.

      http://www.wouldthatitwere.com/tffopghh.htm

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    2. Re:Oldest Robot My Ass by __aafutm5472 · · Score: 1

      Boilerplate rocks...

      Boilerplate EXPOSED!"

  49. I think there's older robots by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1
    I'm pretty sure Dr. Miguelito Loveless built some robot squid in the 1880s.

    But seriously, I heard they were originally going for the robots on a defense contract, but the contract was cancelled in 1950 when Dr. Eric Vornoff announced he was on the verge of perfecting his atomic supermen.

    That fell through when Dr. Vornoff held a CBS televised joint press conference with the newly minted Department Of Defense (formerly the National Military Establishment). When asked by a reporter about the nature of his work, Dr. Vornoff said, "Hunted, despised, Living like an animal! The jungle is my home. But I will show the world that I can be its master! I will perfect my own race of people. A race of atomic supermen which will conquer the world! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!"

    The DOD tried to reactivate the Elektro project, but all but one had been sold to the Japanese yakuza for use in roughing up indebted bakuto (gamblers).

    1. Re:I think there's older robots by serutan · · Score: 1

      Hilarious! Wish I had mod points today.

  50. Elektro actually appeared in an earlier film... by Howard+Roark · · Score: 1

    Titled "The Middleton Family at the New York World's Fair" produced by Westinghouse in 1939 as a promotion for their exhibit. I own a copy. It has a wonderful anticommunist sub-plot. Great fun.

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  51. NOT a robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To nit-pick on another point, this is almost certainly NOT the first US robot. Humanoid robots are called androids. Robots can be much simpler, and usually come first.

    1. Re:NOT a robot by mollymoo · · Score: 1
      Robots can be much simpler, and usually come first.

      Kinda like men then I guess.

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    2. Re:NOT a robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol...!!!

  52. NT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No text

  53. 7 foot robot used to handicap horses? by Tired+and+Emotional · · Score: 1
    Don't see how this could work. I mean a horse would have no chance of winning with that robot on its back.

    On the other hand, I guess it wouldn't have a problem concealing a battery from the stewards.

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    1. Re:7 foot robot used to handicap horses? by modok · · Score: 1

      Don't see how this could work. I mean a horse would have no chance of winning with that robot on its back.

      I think you are thinking of the wrong definition of handicap. Electro made the horses handicapped...

  54. Porn has pioneered many great technologies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once I wrote that subject line I just had to smile. Of course I was referring to ATM encryption codes that I believe were developed by online porn companies that wanted folks to feal secure in giving them their credit card numbers.. Is that a myth? But then again, do sex kittens ever go to college? Or just frat row?

  55. Synchonicity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    It even appeared in a long-time forgotten movie, "Sex Kittens Go to College," also known as "The Beauty and the Robot."

    It's really amazing how sometimes you can hear a new word, or a title of a book, song, or movie and then by innundated by references to it. In flipping through channels last night, I happened to see a reference to this movie on CMT. Being a compulsive channel-flipper, I watch maybe 5 minutes of CMT every six months, but I was immediately presented with a show "delving" into the myths and legends of country music (I know, insert joke here) and they explained how Conway Twitty actually appeared in "Sex Kittens Go to College."

    This kind of thing seems to happen to me frequently, so I guess now I can expect to see a couple of references to Elektro in the next week.

    Guess there's something to the whole idea of a cultural gestalt!

  56. Hometown...gosh i'm sorry by Gridpoet · · Score: 1

    For those who are actually thinking of traveling to Mansfield ohio to see this robot, I'm sorry in advance.

    I live here because my wifes family and my family are here...but i dont have to like it.

    Thank God for slashdot, you warm and cuddly nerd site you!

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    1. Re:Hometown...gosh i'm sorry by flint · · Score: 1

      Mansfield's a great place to be from. "From" as in "I'm not there any more."

      Other things Mansfield is nationally (un)known for:

      - The reformatory facade being used in Shawshank Redemption. My uncle rented them some of the period cars.

      - Hugh Douglas of the Eagles

      - Signal 30, a b&w shock driver's ed film shown to high schoolers around the country. Imagine my surprise sitting in an LA suburb high school after moving from podunk and hearing "Signal 30 at Trimble and West 4th Street!"

      That could have been me. My dad used to let me drive him everywhere at the age of 13. If we got stopped by a cop, chances are he was related or knew our family well. We couldn't go down a street without waving to someone.

      My whole family worked at Westinghouse, the GM (Fisher) body plant in Ontario, or owned businesses there. Most of us made it out alive ;)

  57. Re:Reply here to say FUCK ROLAND PIQUEPAILLE by Gizzmonic · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I'm hear, I'm a hater of Primani Prickwad, now get with the removing of the Karma, Slashbot Janitors!

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  58. Quick somebody port netBSD to it!!!! by gelfling · · Score: 1

    that is all.

  59. MOD PARENT UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's telling the truth! The Roland dude should be sued for copyright infringement.

  60. It just has to be said... by rivercityrandom · · Score: 1

    In Mansfield, Ohio, only old robots go to college with sex kittens!

  61. "nudie cutie" by SteeldrivingJon · · Score: 1


    I think the name of the genre was "nudie cutie".

    Not quite soft porn.

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  62. Don't get so wound up by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

    Electra isn't a robot either. It didn't act autonomously. Equating sex kittens with porn is about the same as calling Electra a robot.

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    1. Re:Don't get so wound up by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1
      Electra isn't a robot either. It didn't act autonomously.
      No, this only means it isn't an autonomous robot.
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    2. Re:Don't get so wound up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Elektra was neither a robot nor a machine. She was a ninja. You're thinking of ElektrO, referenced in this article.

  63. Computers are theoretical by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

    Uber Geeks like Turning did all their computational theory using mechanical models of symbols, moving tapes etc. The move to electromechanical devices (relays) then to electronics (vacuum tubes) was just a progression of driven by the desire to realise faster computers. Relays could switch faster than mechanical latches and had the benefit of being easy to connect (wire instead of mechanical linkages). Vacuum tubes could switch many times faster than relays because they don't bounce and have mechanical inertia issues.

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  64. Um, Gort, I think by hey! · · Score: 1

    Klaatu was the spaceman played by the very human Michael Rennie.

    Gort was the robot.

    In any case Gort was much slimmer and sleeker than Elektro. He also had that mysterious visor instead of the silly anthropomorphic face.

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    1. Re:Um, Gort, I think by CaptainCaustic · · Score: 1

      Gort's visor was the robot equivalent of sunglasses or "shades". Put that visor together with Elektro's ability to smoke, you'd have one cool ass robot.

      Gives chain smoking a whole new meaning

  65. I want a Metalic Silver Ribbon that says by nutznboltz · · Score: 1
  66. Oooh! by hey! · · Score: 1

    I'm thinking case mod. F*ck mini-itx, I'm going to put an IBM zSeries mainframe in that sucker and, yes it will run Linux.

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  67. Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pick a peck of Piquepailles

  68. Re:Power Supply by Fjandr · · Score: 1

    Apparently some mods with no sense of humor went crazy on you...

    I would've modded it funny. :)

  69. This is a fraud by itwasgreektome · · Score: 1

    It would be really cool if this could even be true, but it can't. We didn't even have the tecnology to make robots walk by themselves until the mid nineties (Honda's ASIMO, mid nineties). And can you imagine using a record player to simulate a 'vocabulary' of 700 words? Best of all, they say the robot is now defunct due to wear and tear and general misuse. The truth is it never worked. There are several stories of 'The First Robot' on the web, and all of them have been either completely made up or greatly altered. I wonder if the writer of this story is even aware that the story is a spoof.

  70. Nikola Tesla's Teleautomatons by Metryq · · Score: 1

    What about Tesla's radio controlled torpedo boat (patent 613,809) from the 1890s -- or does this "oldest" award apply to humanoid robots only? Tesla is also responsible for the first logical AND gate (patents 723,188 and 725,605 from 1903) to insure against enemy jamming.

  71. Ohio in fall... by JimBobJoe · · Score: 0, Troll

    If you happen to be around Ohio this coming fall...

    I love Ohio but not a chance this year...I only show up there in fall to overvote for Bush.

  72. Re:The most important part when designing a robot. by fearanddread · · Score: 1

    I am the smoker robot. Smoking is the answer.

  73. The thing that annoys me about this is... by gmezero · · Score: 1

    Slashdot is providing a summary and a link. The last thing I want to do is click over to another damn summary. I just want to read the original article! If I wanted to read uninformed clips and summaries of the original article, I would be reading the /.comments <sic>

  74. Re:Power Supply by clean_stoner · · Score: 1

    Anyone care to explain why this isn't funny? I thought he was making a joke about the similarities/indistiguishability between flamebait and troll.

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  75. Obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, Very old Robot

  76. and internet by Luyseyal · · Score: 1

    Not to mention the Internet is sort of a non-stop World's Fair... (uncensored, too, for the most part. ;)
    -l

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  77. NY Worlds Fair was 1939 not 1929 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both parent and it's source link are incorrect.

  78. Anyone remember KITT? by raam · · Score: 1

    I remember visiting Universal Studios to 'talk' to KITT. They would have us wait in line to go sit in the car. They must've had some guy in a booth somewhere, which probably isn't as cool as 700 pre-recorded neat-o responses.

    It sure was fun when I asked KITT for his 'auto'graph, though. I told him to use his little analyzer printer. Heh, heh.

  79. Re:Power Supply by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    Noooo - by not flaming, and pointing out that it's a joke, you're undermining my case for "Flamebait"! ... ;) (in case you hadn't guessed by yourself :).

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  80. Elektro video by jsin · · Score: 1

    Probably posting this too late for anyone to notice, but you can download a video which contains footage of Elektro from the Prelinger Archive:

    http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?col le ction=prelinger&collectionid=38847a

    Elektro shows up about 15 minutes into the film (in the Westinghouse exhibit); too bad it's silent, but still pretty cool.

  81. QSO with the Elektro special event station by Question27406 · · Score: 1

    Several weeks ago, I enjoyed a QSO on 7238kc with the special event station celebrating the demo of Elektro.

    TNX for the reminder! I need to send them a QSL card to get my autographed pix of Elektro.

    WD4DUG

  82. Who modded up this troll? by JavaRob · · Score: 1

    Most of this argument is based on the "fact" that all of his stories are accepted. How, exactly, would anyone know? Any user's rejected stories are not displayed to other users.

    Try it out. Submit a story, get it rejected, then logout and check your own user page. You won't see anything.

    What nonsense. I'm not even getting why the author seem to think valid, totally aboveboard means to bring traffic to your site (i.e., busting your ass to snag interesting stories first, for your blog & /.) is somehow reprehensible.