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LiveCD Lets You Try Out Project Looking Glass

remember_beos writes "Sun created Project Looking Glass (LG3D) as a 'proof of concept' not long ago. It is an environment for Linux, like KDE or Gnome, but with some really great 3D functionality. More than just eye-candy, LG3D provides functional use of an extra spatial dimension on your desktop. Now there is a LiveCD for us all to try it out."

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  1. Video link by Virtual+Karma · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Video link by Psykus · · Score: 5, Informative

      Real Alternative is your friend.

      :)

    2. Re:Video link by PatrickThomson · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nice going, you managed to slashdot the sun, I guess we'll have to implode Saturn now.

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  2. Acknowledgements in TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    This project owns much to Chevol Davis who contributed unvaluable serverspace and bandwidth.
    Nice to know that they appreciate all the crappy things they are given :) (at least according to current usage)
  3. Now My Desktop can be like my apartment by moofdaddy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From what I understand of this project it is very cool. With that extra spatial dimmension you will take what is already a cluttered desktop and make it mess in 3D. Now my computer can look more like my apartnemt.

    In all seriousness though this is really a neat concept. I use a lot of space for my video editing programs. They require a title program, an animator, a sound mixer, a couple of editors, etc. Now this will take my ordinary 15 inch screen and give it dimenssion which will make my life a lot more producitve and a lot oless facinating.

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  4. Maintenance Notice by fembots · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maintenance notice: Saturday, 3/5 noon - 1 pm PST, maintenance to our hosting center could cause interruptions in site access during this period.

    What speed are you guys getting at the moment? Looks like the "maintenance" has come early.

  5. I got your screen shots right here by moofdaddy · · Score: 4, Informative
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  6. Re:Worth it? by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Isn't it rough on the video card to have it 3D rendering at any point the the OS is loaded?

    Isn't this what video cards or for? You might as well ask if it's rough on the CPU.

  7. I dunno.... by Psykus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I tried something similar for Windows XP some time ago, I didn't really see any advantages over using a normal, 2D interface. Perhaps this 3D interface is different, but the whole thing seems pretty gimicky to me. Kind of like having a 3D interface, just to say you have a 3D interface, not because of any inherent benefits of using it.

    Also, is this a window manager akin to Gnome or KDE, or does it run on top of either one? The window decorations and stuff look pretty fugly IMHO.

    1. Re:I dunno.... by KingPrad · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I just thought of a way this might be made useful. It depends on sensing the location of the user's head. It would work so that a user could tilt his head like he's trying to see 'around' to the other side of the spherical interface and the window manager would rotate in the windows/information from that side. So if you are looking at a text editor and need to check out a document momentarily you could crane your neck (I'm talking a slight gesture, not really craning, but the same motion) and the web browser that is pushed off to the side would slide back in. You could read what you need to, then go back the other way to see the editor.

      Perhaps a head position sensor would provide intelligent focusing for the extra dimensions? I can see something like this being useful in any window manager. You could do it with a camera and some custom recognition software perhaps, so no extra sensor would be required.

      I personally would really like it if I could scroll a document or switch desktops (or the view of a very large desktop) with slight head gestures.

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  8. ISO link by scottied · · Score: 5, Informative

    It looks like looking glass is gonna be slashdotted... heres the ISO link.

    http://66.194.210.2/lg3d.iso

    Not going very fast... torrent anyone??

  9. Re:but will it run all my sweet windows apps!?! by thryllkill · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes. And your OSX apps as well. They're twice as lickable in 3D!!! Even better you can use this over E17 for a thrice lickable win32/linux/osx environment tour de force. K apps have a little trouble sometimes though. Sorry.

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  10. Re:Worth it? by DavidLeblond · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know, ask Apple. Their UI uses the GPU and it has for awhile now.

  11. Re:Worth it? by Mark_MF-WN · · Score: 5, Funny

    You bet. These video cards can handle marathon 12 hour gaming sessions, but they're gonna break like matchsticks under the burden of running a WINDOWING system.

  12. I'll mirror it by ToadMan8 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If someone can get their hands on it I will mirror it. The University has a 200 megabit pipe to lay to waste, but we're on I2 so edu connections will fly. (I've done this in the past for /.ed things)

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  13. Apple v. Sun by revscat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone get the impression that there is some subtle but real competition going on between Sun and Apple? Apple seems to be moving in on the server/blade market, and Sun is attempting to do cool GUI tricks. I wouldn't mention this but Sun has made so much of Project Looking Glass that it's kind of hard to not wonder if one of their primary targets here is not Apple and the users who are using it as their preferred UNIX OS.

  14. Re:Conflict of interest by UWC · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Sun sells servers. Hosting a torrent would set an example which in the long run could lead to fewer servers sold.

    And having their own servers Slashdotted sets a better example?

  15. Re:Finally... the wait is over by evanfrey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I installed this about a month ago on gentoo. Its little more then a crappy demo. The one I really want to see, is a linux port of sphereXP http://www.hamar.sk/sphere/, OR i would like to see the metisse project http://insitu.lri.fr/~chapuis/metisse/ see the light of day.

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  16. Honest /. recommendation by miketang16 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After reading about 15 requests for a torrent, I got to thinking about the /. effect and bittorrent.

    Wouldn't it be a decent idea to set up a torrents.slashdot.org and if possible, before releasing a story with a large 'attachment', set up a torrent for it?

    Then again, I don't know how hard this would be logistically, considering that one must obtain a copy of the file ahead of time. However, IMHO I think it's worth a shot.

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    1. Re:Honest /. recommendation by Torg · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually the amount of traffic a tracker gets is substantial. It is directly related to how many users there are in the cloud. The way the tracker works is to track the meta-data from the clients (what parts they have) so it can broadcast it back out.

      It is not nearly as large as the amount of bandwidth needed to distribute your data but it is still quite significant. Don't take my word for it, set one up and try it yourself.

  17. Managing the location and size of Windows by Peaker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    is counter-productive.

    Managing their rotation axis and depth is more waste of time.

    Windows should either be auto-maximized or auto-tiled by the windowing system, with the user and application cooperating to define which parts in the visible output of the application are important to the user at every given moment so that those are automatically displayed to the user. Simple example: Newly created messages about errors or events should not be placed on top of some text I am reading, but on some of the all-gray or all-white area that the screen almost always contains. For this to happen, it must know that text is more important than "dead" areas that contain nothing.

    This silliness of attributing physical traits to non-physical entities is counter-productive, even if it is very visually appealing.

    Lets let go of the overlapping windows crap and solve the division of screen-space problem in a more intelligent way.

  18. Try BBC Edition by OrangeTide · · Score: 4, Informative

    What's wrong with RealOne BBC edition? No spyware there. Also the Linux and Mac OS X version of the standard non-BBC edition seems to lack the advertising you find in the Windows version.

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  19. Re:Finally... the wait is over by jericho4.0 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Seeing as there is a lot of interest in this thing, and you're the only one who's seen it, can you either post a torrent or expound on what was lacking ?

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  20. Re:I am lost, will you help me by kinnell · · Score: 5, Funny
    The iso directory is empty!

    You're too late - somebody's already downloaded it

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  21. Looking Glass is nausea inducing by NeedleSurfer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    this is not a flame but a real comment, all videos I watched of this gave me nausea, the idea that the background move when my mouse does is very disturbing and not a good idea to locate items on the screen since everything moves not just the foreground or background. Each graphical element is way too big and actually nulify the idea, if you wanted more space out of this realize you don't because every object on the screen is now bigger, turning them aside doesn't provide much more space than windowshading does (the ability on the mac to collapse a window into its title bar), actually it provide less space because of the drop shadow and extra thickness, plus, now, you have too read from up to down instead of left to right, basically it is less usefull and more clunky than windowshade, but since it is a feature of a software that runs on Linux people will go nuts over it and call it usefull 3D even if its nothing but glitz and wizzbang...

    Actually, Looking glass is like when you give Windows a resolution the display can't handle, it just shows you part of your desktop and now you have to scroll the desktop to go to each corner, imagine this concept in 3D, you have Looking Glass...

  22. Re:Finally... the wait is over by evanfrey · · Score: 5, Informative

    It was kind of a pain to find all of the packages, ( alot of googling =/ ). The following packages were needed and DONT expect to find all of them on sun. Just google the following: jdk-1_5_0_01-linux-i586.bin jai-1_1_2_01-lib-linux-i586.tar.gz java3d-1_3_2-build4-linux-i586.tar.gz java-config-1.2.11.tar.bz2 lg3d-0.5.tar.gz It took a long time to find the packages, but once I did I just used portages emerge to build it. If you want to find the ebuild (build script) google for: lookingglass-bin-0.5.ebuild hopefully this helps out. If I knew there would be all this interest, I would have documented the procedure.

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  23. Torrent Now up... by BrianHursey · · Score: 4, Informative

    Some one please mirror this file. Im sure this site will go down fast.

    Here is the site that i found serching through the sun forms..

    Get it while its up. lg3d.iso.torrent

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