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Sony Ericsson Announces First Walkman Phone

jonknee writes "Sony Ericsson has announced the first in a new line of self-described "Walkman phones" that specialize in playing music. The W800i features a 512MB memory card to store tunes and up to 30 hours of playback (if you keep the phone off, otherwise about half that). We should see a Motorola phone with iTunes onboard within the next two weeks, making March the month of music phones."

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  1. Yeah... by Electroly · · Score: 5, Funny

    No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

    1. Re:Yeah... by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 4, Funny

      We really need a "+1: Knowledge of the lore of /." modifier.

      Stuart

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    2. Re:Yeah... by fanblade · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We're all holding out for the iPhone anyway.

    3. Re:Yeah... by bad_fx · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, explaining the joke sucks, but for the one or two folk still scratching their heads:

      http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23/ 1816257&tid=107

    4. Re:Yeah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The reason it's lame -- Sony proprietary Memory Stick.

      Also, limited to T-Mobile (US customers) service.

      Also, no price announced yet.

      Also, DRM music only.

    5. Re:Yeah... by jasen666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      memory stick... don't care about too much

      tmobile... great, that's my co. :)

      DRM... where does it say that at? I read Ericsson's site and saw no mention of DRM.

    6. Re:Yeah... by recharged95 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      "Features of the Sony Ericsson W800i include everything of the K750i"

      OK, no WiFi, but it's got bluetooth. That would classify it as having Wireless. Anyway, when you're transferring 512MB, the USB2.0 cable is the way to go [quickly].

      Wonder what different features being a 'Walkman' brings to the table. My 750i has high quality headphones, AM/FM stereo and MP3 player (and vga video camera). Only advantage I see is a *bling* walkman brand name sticker, 2.0MP camera and [really] the 512MB stick. You can only play a few songs with 42MB!

    7. Re:Yeah... by doctor_no · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Problem is sir, the SD is also proprietary. SD is controlled by Matsushita, Toshiba, and Sandisk. MMC isn't proprietary, but by default pretty much all new MMC slots pretty much needs SD compatibility since consumers don't know the diffrence and expect SDs to work.

      Why would Sony dump one proprietary standard just to adopt another which they have to pay licencing fees for? Quite honestly, the Sony-bashing regarding memorysticks is garbage. It would be a valid argument if the alternative was an open standard, however most people seem to endorse SDs. Out of all the pletohra of the small flash multimedia standards that constantly pop up I'm not sure why people only attack Sony.

      As far as DRM goes, all other players also have DRM. plus it supports MP3s, so there's a way around it. Also, the phone is GSM/GPRS triband so it will likely work with other GSM services in the future.

  2. Everyone is getting in the game by moofdaddy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nokia announced a similar device last month. It had a slight bump in storage, i think it was 768 flash memory. The problem with the nokia version according to early tech specs is it looks like they sacraficed battery capacity more then the other phone companies (moto and ericsson) in order to be able to play music. The coolest feature of that phone though wasn't the music ability but rather the 360 degree rotatable ability of the screen.

    The Nokia phone I think is expected to hit in time for summer, there goal was to have it out by beach time so that people would only have to bring one device with them when they beached it. We'll see how it goes though.

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    1. Re:Everyone is getting in the game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The coolest feature of that phone though wasn't the music ability but rather the 360 degree rotatable ability of the screen.

      Now, *that's* a feature I want in my cell phone-- A 360-degree rotating screen, to go along with my camera phone and useless blinking lights.

      All the while, I still have trouble finding decent cell service for less then $29.99 a month.

      I thought competition was supposed to drive down prices, not increase stupid gadgetry for the glitteratti ...

    2. Re:Everyone is getting in the game by krakelohm · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ya know what? I really take offense to this..... oh man look at the pretty blinky lights.... aaaahhhh huuu... wha?

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  3. All in one? by zoloto · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How many "all on one" devices do consumers really need?

    On another note... haven't there been phones like this before? What's their claim to being the first?

    http://tinyurl.com/6vq2z/

    1. Re:All in one? by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      how many?

      1.

      that's the point of all in one.

      that being said, this thing is pretty lame featurewise. phones have had mp3 players for ages.

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    2. Re:All in one? by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Funny

      How many "all on one" devices do consumers really need?

      The answer is obvious: One.

    3. Re:All in one? by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful
      How many "all on one" devices do consumers really need?

      'Single Point of Failure' comes to mind. I.e. it does everything for you and either dies or the battery runs out and your alone in the Wilderness of the Non-Conntected. Like those goofy cartoons from years ago that said things like, "The computers all were down today so we had to think." But more like, you do without the luxuries and have to borrow cell phones or find rapidly vanishing (in the UK anyway) public phones.

      Or worse, all your stuff is on the phone and some weasel breaks in and copies it all and leaves you a message like "I'm Sorry Bitch"

      Unconnected and lovin' it.

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    4. Re:All in one? by jacksonj04 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It should be, but my PDA thinks it's a music player and my phone thinks it's my calendar and my iPod thinks it should be my contacts list.

      And none of them do them well.

      I either want a single device which does them all well, or my devices to do one thing and do that well. I would be quite content if my phone didn't try to offer me a bigger penis in between serving up music...

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    5. Re:All in one? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful
      On another note... haven't there been phones like this before? What's their claim to being the first?
      Does being first really matter? The iPod wasn't the first of its kind, and look how profitable it is.

      Combining the functionality of a phone, camera, pda, and Walkman into one is certainly doable technically (many of the components are common - battery, screen, processor, radio transciever). The hard part will be keeping it comprehensible, and making each part work well. My Sony Clie has all but the phone, and I can tell you the software needs a lot of work.

      I sure hope they don't stop reinventing this "convergence device" wheel until they get it right.

    6. Re:All in one? by Mike+Kelly · · Score: 2, Informative
      Any device that runs (most of) the Palm OS versions can play music. This includes smartphones.

      I've got an old Kycera 7135 that works well. Just drop in a 512GB SD card that you've copied MP3s to via a card reader and you're in business. Lately I've been using it to listen to podcasts pulled down by iPodder.

    7. Re:All in one? by nutshell42 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The thing is not everyone needs the best of everything. Many people need/want a device really good at one thing (be that taking notes, playing music or ringing during a movie) and are happy if it's "good enough" at many other things.

      Now I assume you're at home or at work. Take a look around. Unless you're very rich and have a very sophisticated taste chances are that you have one or two things in your view that are what you'd call excellent. Could be your computer, your display, the hifi-280.1-80MW-Armageddon-stereo or perhaps the $800 armchair you're sitting on. But most things probably fit in the "good enough" category. You're desk is probably nothing special, but it's good enough. The $20 speakers? Good enough. The Ikea lamp? Good enough.

      People always wonder why Apple is at 5% market share. And while there's a myriad of reasons and I don't want to oversimplify it, imho the most important reason is that Steve Jobs is one of those quality freaks I mentioned above who have the money, the time, the inner drive and a good enough (no pun intended =) taste to strive for excellence in everything they own and everything they do. Most of us don't.

      Well seems like I got a bit off topic here. But to make the connection: Sony, Nokia, etc. realized that the iPod is an excellent player and it has a strong entry barrier (its market share and the ITMS) for other players that makes it hard for competitors even if they were superior and even more so if they're just good enough. So they do the next best thing. They take other devices where they have the network effects on their side (phones as in the article, handhelds, see the PSP or PDAs) and add a music player that is good enough. If it's really good enough many people won't bother to cough up another $300 with the exception of about 5%.

      jm2 =)

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    8. Re:All in one? by notthe9 · · Score: 2, Informative

      When I followed the tinyurl link, I was expecting goatse or something, not something THAT bad, man.

  4. The teenies are telling me this is old news.. by Paska · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This idea is already quite old, either that or Sony have handed out these new music playing phones to most of the young teeny boppers in my area already.

    A simple trip to the local movie theatre and I am pounded with each and every latest teeny pop song each time a phone rings.

    Hopefully these Walkman phones won't allow the tunes to be played through the phone speakers, if that's the case I refuse to leave the house outside school hours.

  5. Cell phone meets the Walkman: virtual karma by Virtual+Karma · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:Cell phone meets the Walkman: virtual karma by Daniel+Boisvert · · Score: 2, Informative

      Photos are here, minus the lame extra click through parent's blog.

      http://news.com.com/Photos+Cell+phone+meets+the+Wa lkman/2009-1041_3-5594417.html?tag=st.num

  6. More Phone Stuff! by geomon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Phones that play music.

    Phones that perform facial recognition.

    Phones that take photos.

    Phones that shoot small caliber rounds.

    Phones that can be tracked by GPS.

    Phones that can extend penis lengths.

    Phones that can make water from wine.

    Phones that introduce you to your new spouse.

    Are there any phones that allow you to talk to someone separated by distances greater than you can shout?

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    1. Re:More Phone Stuff! by winkydink · · Score: 5, Funny

      You forgot phones that act as vibrators.

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    2. Re:More Phone Stuff! by hobbesx · · Score: 2, Funny

      That'd be a subset of phones that extend penis length.

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  7. I like my seperate devices by moofdaddy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everythign is getting so small now, tiny phones, tiny mp3 players, tiny cameras. It is not that difficult to get each device seperate. I hate this trend towards convergence because you end up with a crappy phone and a crappy mp3 player. I bought one of those phone/pda things and it was terrible. It wasn't half as good as my regular PDA or the phone I traded it in for. So instead i get two crappy devices in the size of one.

    Focus on making things better, making phone reception clearer, i don't need to listen to music using my phone, thats what my iPod is for.

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  8. Sorry I Missed Your Call by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny
    Sorry I missed your call, I was totally jamming to Louis Jordan and couldn't be bothered.

    ultimately we'll have to ask ourselves what the heck these things are actually for

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    1. Re:Sorry I Missed Your Call by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, see, the whole point is that unless you had your phone on vibrate you would miss their call if you were listening to an ipod. I assume this will do something like turn down the music volume when the phone actually rings, and that the caller will be heard in the headphones. This is one convergence device that makes sense.

  9. Walkman? by Hershmire · · Score: 4, Funny

    But how do you fit the cassette in the phone?

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  10. Nothing new by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    First walkman phone eh? You can have music on your regular cell phone RIGHT NOW: Call AT&T's customer support line, say to the operator that you're furious and you wish to complain and talk to her manager, wait till she says "yes Sir, please hold" and enjoy endless music for FREE!

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  11. Looks like Sony will fuck it up. by gregvr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Lessee, it's a Sony digital music format, so it'll be all fucked up. 1. Memory Stick? Give me a break. 2. I'm sure that I can't just put a FAT formatted flash card in it. I'm sure that I have to use some sort of fucking evil-ass Sony piece of crap, PC-only software for the sole purpose of COPYING FILES TO A FLASH CARD.

  12. Congratulations Sony... by Humorously_Inept · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been listening to MP3s on my N-Gage with a 512MB MMC card and stereo headphones for 1.5 years. Granted, I don't have a dedicated start/stop button. On the subject of annoying behavior, yes, I can play songs over the loudspeaker and I can make MP3 files my ringtone should I ever need to annoy you.

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  13. Convergence Convergence Convergence! by ihatewinXP · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well as much as some /.'ers hate the convergence of phones and would rather wear a utility belt - this looks like a great mix. I think the older generation instead of lamenting that most convergence phone/camera/music/pda phones dont do it right should applaud the ones that do. This looks like a great first step.

    Most importantly the battery life kicks ass on this phone in both modes - I really think that this is the acid test for many - What good are feautures if there is no power to turn on the phone.

    One day soon I will own a Phone / PDA / iPod / Camera (Still and Motion) with hopefully some GPS thrown in for good measure - Convergence is key - that or bigger pockets.

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  14. The Sony Ericsson Z800 is the one I'm waiting for by abischof · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While the idea of a Walkman phone is cool, I'd rather have a clamshell phone -- if only because, with all the buttons on the inside, it's harder (or impossible) to accidentally answer or hang up the phone while it's in my pocket. So, the one I'm waiting for is the Sony Ericsson Z800. With Bluetooth, Infrared, MP3/AAC support, it has just about all I could ask for.

    Still, I'm also waiting to see if/when it'll make Apple's list of iSync-compatible phones -- being able to sync with my Powerbook (as I do now with my Nokia 3650) is pretty handy. That, and I'm hoping that an unlocked version won't cost me an arm and a leg (I'm in the US on T-Mobile, fwiw).

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  15. Hmmm by paithuk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "if you keep the phone off, otherwise about half that"

    uh huh, because it's not like I'd be expecting to receive calls with this phone thing...

  16. V800 does this already.. by MrPerfekt · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm mystified by this because my Sony Ericsson V800 already does this. From the pictures, the phone seems to run the same software too. So aside from branding, I fail to see the difference. The V800 also has expandable memory via Memory Stick Pro Duo which cards are available up to 1GB for.

    Granted the V800 is not "available" in America, but one can be snagged from eBay and unlocked/flashed. The same thing you're going to have to do with the W800 though.

    The drawback to the V800 though is that the earphones connect through the T28 connector as there is no mini-headphone jack. :( But with a little enginuity you could make your headphones work too.

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    1. Re:V800 does this already.. by Hast · · Score: 2, Informative

      W800 is based on K750i and not V800. (The naming does confuse the issues though.)

      W800 and k750i are both GSM and "candy bar" style phones. They are also quite a bit smaller than the V/Z800.

      K750 and W800 also have an external slot for the memory card, so you don't have to open up the battery compartment in order to get to the memory slot.

      The biggest difference as far as MP3s go between W800 and V800 is that the W800 can be put into MP3 mode and then switch off the radio for the mobile network, thus getting a lot better battery time.

  17. Of course there's a trade off by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 2, Informative

    But for a lot of people carrying shit around is a real pain. I have a phone and a PDA and a Network Walkman. The PDA never leaves my bedroom. My Walkman rarely comes with me. My phone is always with me.

    Having more PDA and music functionality in my phone (my phone has radio but appears to need some crappy Nokia headset for it) would be a definate advantage to me.

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  18. Re:bed reviews by soupdevil · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mules. Mules are sterile. Mules are the offspring of male donkeys and female horses. If donkeys were sterile there would be no mules. Or donkeys, for that matter.
    I'm still trying to figure out what sterile donkeys have to do with reviewing beds.

  19. How is this new? by mykepredko · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My year and a half old Kyocera 7135 has a built in MP3 player just like the Ericsson with a Palm Pilot built in to boot. It's a great feature for a phone and I was always surprised no other phones were offering it.

    myke

  20. Motorolla by Indes · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a Motorolla E680, It has 50 megs built in, but an SD slot in the bottom (now filled with a 1GB card)

    it also comes with real player, so I play my mp3s or mp4/real player format movies in 320x240 resolution.

    Not only that is the phone has stereo sound, hand writing recognition on the touch screen, a VGA resolution camera, bluetooth and full GSM world phone capabilities.

    The downside is the USB1.1, USB2.0 would have been better.

    The greatest part: The phone runs linux with the J2ME over top. Write your own apps in J2ME,

    for example, I can SSH from my phone to my network and deal with anything while listening to my mp3s and taking phone calls.

    I've been doing this since December, Although I had to order my phone from China, it is fully english and cost me just under 600 dollars.

    So why is this new technology anyway?

  21. Panasonic Presents: "BooomBox Phone" by Sundroid · · Score: 3, Funny

    Press Release: "Not to be outdone, Panasonic, Sony's rival, is coming out with a "BoomBox Phone" -- a giant 200-watt shiny metal of nostalgic beauty complete with a free six-hour cassette recording of best disco hits. The BoomBox Phone is designed to sit comfortably on your shoulder as you make a call with the built-in wireless phone device. There is no better way to chat with your romantic interest with Donna Summer cooing words of love in the background."

  22. Treo 600/650 has had this capability for some time by meniah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've owned and loved my Treo 600 now for just over a year. I have a 256MB SD card in it, loaded with MP3's, a pair of headphones and PocketTunes loaded. I've been listening to music on my PDA/Phone/Camera for quite awhile now.

    I think the Treo can take even larger SD cards, too.

    There's no DRM that I'm aware of either.

    Greg

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  23. WRONG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The "obvious" answer is one. The correct answer is unlimited. There is a point where you cannot keep putting devices together. It would be ridiculous to make an "all in one" device that is a phone, a camera, a walkman, and a printer. You would need a seperate "all in one" device that is a printer/fax/scanner/copier. So there are two "all in one" devices already. You can see where this is going.

    off-topic: I need my phone to make phone calls. thats it.

    ptpete

  24. Not even that new compared to Sony's existing line by biglig2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you RTFA, you discover exactly what this is. It's a Sony K750i with a "play" and a "stop" button on it. Oh, and it's a different colour.

    Woo. I recently had a MP3 playing smartphone for a few days myself - a Sendo X. Lovely phone, adequate MP3 player (there is an interface annoyance but the sound is fine), only problem is that is has a bug in it that makes it crap at reacquiring the network if you disconnect for any reason.

    Pity...

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