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The Peculiar World of Web Photo Sharing

theodp writes "Can't get enough pictures of dogs' noses? Circular objects framed within squares? Newsweek reports on photo-sharing sites and picture blogs, where amateur shutterbugs looking to share their passions with the world happily blast their photos out to millions of people. Fotolog CEO Adam Seifer, who posts a picture of every meal he eats on Get In My Belly!, calls the Fotolog-Flickr-HeyPix-Smugmug phenomenon 'a million reality TV shows, only without the pain and humiliation.'" Update: 03/14 07:09 GMT by T : Reader onethumb points out an important aspect of such sites: "The new breed of photo-sharing services expose their APIs for geeks everywhere to enjoy. Both Flickr and Smugmug have growing APIs with thriving communities around them. Write your own photo-sharing application, sister web service, or software toy today!" (Here's a link to Flicker's API, and one to smugmug's.)

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  1. My new photo blog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashshot.org - My photo reactions to every Slashdot story.

    1. Re:My new photo blog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, that link doesn't work, maybe you have been slashdotted?

    2. Re:My new photo blog by ScArE2100 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I just bought the domain http://www.slashshot.org:)

      Should have it set up in about 2 hours. What should I use it for?

      Discuss.

    3. Re:My new photo blog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Photos of your reactions to Slashdot stories.

    4. Re:My new photo blog by LnxAddct · · Score: 1

      I guarantee taking a picture of your reaction, someone else's reaction, or something funny in regards to all or most slashdot stories would make your blog very popular. You'd probably start seeing links to it all over comments and in signatures if you do it right and it truly is funny. Throw up some google adwords on it and you might be able to make a buck or two as well.
      Regards,
      Steve

    5. Re:My new photo blog by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 1

      A CSS/XHTML-ized version of Slashdot (with or without Roland's articles, your choice entirely)

    6. Re:My new photo blog by Evil+Grinn · · Score: 1

      I just bought the domain http://www.slashshot.org:)

      Should have it set up in about 2 hours. What should I use it for?


      goatse.cx mirror

  2. I don't see any photos... by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Funny, I don't see any photos. I just see numbers like '404' and '503'. ...

    Does my screen not support those types of images?

    1. Re:I don't see any photos... by Spoing · · Score: 4, Funny

      Try this link! It's never failed me! Slashdot THAT! HA-HA!

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    2. Re:I don't see any photos... by Flyingcats · · Score: 0

      Hmm... Me too.

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    3. Re:I don't see any photos... by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1


      On the sig, fad. It's nothing but one more easy, pathetic fad. There's a segment of the American public that can't resist convenient patriotism. They want it rolled up nice and neat and available for sale at the checkout.

      Part of me (the larger part) hates the shit out of those things while another part of me wishes I'd thought of it first because someone is making a buttload of money off of those things.

      As patriotism goes though it's a weak imitation. It's patriotism with a condom on. It's being vocal from the safety of your SUV.

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  3. It has transformed photography for many people... by SlideGuitar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's so strange about it?

    You find something that you love... you share it with the world.

    http://portlandground.com/

  4. Without the pain and humiliation? by datastalker · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Fotolog CEO Adam Seifer, who posts a picture of every meal he eats on Get In My Belly!"

    I hope this guy gets to be known for more than just that... ;)

    1. Re:Without the pain and humiliation? by nacturation · · Score: 3, Funny

      Four hours later, he posts another picture on his blog "Get Out Of My Belly!"

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    2. Re:Without the pain and humiliation? by Zorilla · · Score: 1

      Subtract 3.5 hours for Mexican.

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    3. Re:Without the pain and humiliation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Four hours later, he posts another picture on his blog "Get Out Of My Belly!"

      I'd think that was funny, except for the fact that I've seen that website... actually, there are at least a couple of them, and I don't know what's more disturbing, the 'ratemypoo' site or the 'monsterdumps' girl...

      And, no, I don't go seeking this stuff, I have sick 'friends' who think it's funny to email people sick links to their work accounts...

      It is truly remarkable the stuff you can find on the web if you care to look. I'm still not sure why you'd look, though...

  5. Oh, I get it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Blogging for people who don't know how to type! It's a brave new world.

    1. Re:Oh, I get it! by greyhoundpoe · · Score: 1

      Blogging for people who don't know how to type! It's a brave new world.

      So, the market is like 90% of bloggers, then...

  6. Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by SteelV · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't believe that 20,000 people visit Adam Seifer's site every week, just to see pictures of his meals. It's such a useless thing, and fotolog.net just has countless, random pictures. I know art is subjective, but I don't think they have that much subjective value.

    I guess it's the same reason we like reality TV: we get to live vicariously. It's good entertainment. And stuff like that.

    Personally, I waste enough of my own life eating meals (usually 3 square / day); I don't want to waste even more watching what others eat (or observing other mundane activities).

    That's just me though.

    1. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Personally, I waste enough of my own life eating meals (usually 3 square / day); I don't want to waste even more watching what others eat (or observing other mundane activities).

      3^2/day? You eat 9 meals a day?

      Personally, I doubt anyone wants to see a photoblog of my diet. ; ) Pizza, mountain dew, more pizza, mountain dew, pizza, pizza...

    2. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I eat macaroni and cheese with catsup everyday, eh. I could just take one photo and leave it up all the time.

    3. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by prichardson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's not about living vicariously, it's about validation.

      'These people on this reality show are total incompetent assholes, I guess I'm not such a horrible person after all.'

      'This guy eats take-out a lot, I guess it can't be all bad.'

      'Look, this person isn't perfect, I guess it's ok not to be.'

      The healthiness of these vary.

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    4. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by tinrobot · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I recall a famous Japanese inventor who took pictures of all of his meals so he could understand how food affected his creativity. If he had a bad day, he could look back on his eating habits and make changes.

      I would also think that if you were on a diet, snapping a pic of every meal might allow you to count calories or carbs or whatever it is you're counting.

    5. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1
      It's a good idea if you cook a lot and you're too lazy to write recipes or keep track of what you put in things. Then you can just look at the pics and at least vaguely remember what you ate.

      Why you would want to see what other people eat is a different question....

    6. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by SteelV · · Score: 1

      Not exactly the easiest way to hold that data. I could write what I ate today:

      Bowl of frosted flakes, whole milk (not sure how a picture would manage that last part).

      Macaroni and cheese (1 serving).

      8 pieces friend chicken.

      (yes, I wasn't too healthy today, but I did go to the gym, so there's something).

      Instead of a 500KB image for each!

    7. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I think you hit the nail on the head about living vicariously.

      You see, thanks to all the recent advances in media technology, we are able to experience the lives of other people in ways unimagineable a century ago.

      If life is about growing, learning, and experiencing, what better way than to peek in on the lives of others and learn from what they go through?

      This is doubly true for those of us who may not be that social and may not leave the house very often. I'm not trying to pass judgement on those people, i'm just saying that if it helps make someones life interesting to look at the life of another, what is so wrong with that?

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    8. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I can't believe that 20,000 people visit Adam Seifer's site every week, just to see pictures of his meals. It's such a useless thing, and fotolog.net just has countless, random pictures."

      Heh I can't believe you don't realize you're one of those 20,000 hits today.

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    9. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thanks for sharing.

    10. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by ggvaidya · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You actually rtfa???

      *shock and horror*

    11. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by advocate_one · · Score: 1
      I would also think that if you were on a diet, snapping a pic of every meal might allow you to count calories or carbs or whatever it is you're counting.

      and now we have an inspiration for a web based business... online calorie counting... snap your meal, send the image to the site along with the dimension of the plate and get a itemised list back and a running total of your calories consumed over the past 24 hours, 7 days whatever...

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    12. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by k.ovaska · · Score: 2, Funny
      I eat macaroni and cheese with catsup everyday, eh. I could just take one photo and leave it up all the time.

      On a related note, this guy has the best webcam ever.

    13. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by LogicX · · Score: 2, Funny

      Our you could use it to share your recipies, such as Egg With Hat

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    14. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by WNight · · Score: 1

      Photos are a lot bigger than than in many cases. My camera's JPEGs are 1.8MB on medium-quality (20d, 8mp) already and they're just going to get bigger.

      However, it does matter. In ten years when you transfer the photo to your computer your computer will recognize all the elements in the photo from enough previous photos to have figured out the shape, with that it will search for the pattern - enough other weirdos will have posted about bowl shopping at K-Mart and it'll find the pattern, so it'll just store all of these as a 3D model. Ditto with the pieces of cereal. A little trivial bit of rendering later and it's got 93% of the image from a 3D model, needing to store actual picture data for only a small number of pixels. Really, it could. And then your computer could run a background task to recompress those old JPEGs into the new format for you.

      Information will always get easier to store and process. This guy takes pictures of his food - soon software will be able to figure out what he ate without any keywords. In a few years when they link water-chesnuts to Sudden Exploding Head Syndrome, he'll be able to query his diet for the last few years and know if he's at risk. You, you'd have nice searchable text, but it never was as easy as the photo so you didn't actually write it.

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's easy to criticize someone's style in doing something you are unwilling to even try.

    15. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by dr.badass · · Score: 1

      It's such a useless thing

      Welcome to the Internet.

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    16. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by robfoo · · Score: 1

      8 pieces friend chicken.

      I prefer eating the chickens of my enemies

    17. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by CProgrammer98 · · Score: 1

      don't get it, what's great about his webcam? just a pic of a bored lookin guy. What am I missing?!

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    18. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by sharkey · · Score: 1
      What am I missing?!

      A sense of humor?
      ;)

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    19. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      What's a square meal? Is it anything like a well-rounded meal? Or is a square meal one of the kinds that come in a box on a square tray - as opposed to one cooked at home and served on a round plate?

      So confused!

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    20. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by drsquare · · Score: 1

      I would also think that if you were on a diet, snapping a pic of every meal might allow you to count calories or carbs or whatever it is you're counting.

      Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to write it down with the right quantities?

    21. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I eat macaroni and cheese with catsup everyday
      ho dee oten doten day fattening up our tapeworms!
    22. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 for KITH reference!

    23. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      oh, de oh de oten-day, fattening up our tapeworms

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    24. Re:Why are we interested in this sort of thing? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      you could use it to share your recipies, such as Egg With Hat

      That looks good. I'm gonna go make some Egg With Hat right now.

  7. This too shall pass by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 4, Insightful
    How long until the novelty of photographing your dinner and posting it on the web fades into oblivion?

    Not long, I figure, even for the CEO of the company.

    1. Re:This too shall pass by metalhed77 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I use these services a lot and for me the primary value isn't such silly endeavors at all, in fact, these seem to be the exception rather than the rule. Most people use them as online photo albums, something far more useful. They are also fun to just browse randomly. It's like taking a short trip in someone else's shoes.

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    2. Re:This too shall pass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How long until people who dont have food hunt him down for the way he flaunts his food in their faces?

    3. Re:This too shall pass by superdan2k · · Score: 3, Funny

      And sadly, six years ago, if he'd taken the idea to a venture capital firm, they'd have probably dropped a check for $10 million in his lap.

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    4. Re:This too shall pass by senzafine · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One step past just photo sharing is photo/story sharing. FotoFlix lets you tell a story through your photos. As well as organize them with labels (aka keywords on Flickr).

      There was no better way to share my recent trip to India...than THIS!!

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    5. Re:This too shall pass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How long until the novelty of photographing your dinner and posting it on the web fades into oblivion?

      What's your point? The web is arguably the best medium for publishing temporary fads or keeping up with fast-moving trends.

    6. Re:This too shall pass by robfoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Giving rise to "Get in my wallet!" where people post photos of the insanely huge cheques they get from venture capitalists..

    7. Re:This too shall pass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He would have gotten VC funding because 6 years ago this idea would have been much better than most of the other ones.

    8. Re:This too shall pass by metalhed77 · · Score: 1

      Interesting, but I still prefer flickr's slideshow mode. I like the clean look.

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    9. Re:This too shall pass by senzafine · · Score: 1

      Clean...like this? :)

      I am a fan of flickr as well. I have an account at each (though I do use fotoflix as my primary one - though I AM biased). I like that fotoflix allows me to embed or link directly to the actual flix from my personal site...jmathai.com (look at the fotoflix links on the left column).

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  8. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 2, Funny

    To capitalize on this latest trend, I think I'm gonna take pictures of the people who take pictures of wierd things...

    That's not wierd at all.

  9. riiight by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 5, Funny

    "only without the pain and humiliation"

    I know of a few photos this guy hasn't seen yet. If he sticks around Slashdot he'll certainly run into them, though.

    1. Re:riiight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like how this post got "Insightful" moderations. Like netweary Slashdotters are so sick of being tricked into seeing gaping anuses and women squirting their own feces onto themselves.

  10. why doesnt it? by calvinandhobbes · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    talk about breasts!! that why i come to /. for!!!!

    1. Re:why doesnt it? by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Google to the rescue!

  11. The guy doesn't make his own food? by bourdeau · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's interesting to note that almost every item that he has taken a photo of is some sort of take out food. Very little homecooked food is shown. Is that now a typical diet?

    1. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by SoLO · · Score: 3, Informative

      And this question right here is the reason that these sites are popular. You get to view every little detail and compare it to what you do or what the "norm" is.

    2. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by kamapuaa · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I believe slightly less than 50% of meals in the US are home-cooked?

      There's a tone of condescension in your question, but when you're cooking for one or two people, it's easier and cheaper to eat out, particularly when you factor in time of preparation. In the cities I've lived in (Oakland Chinatown, Honolulu, Tokyo, & New York), the food can be quite interesting and healthy. Most of the people who cook do it more as a fun activity or hobby than a superior way of eating.

      I'm aware that in many areas, restaurants are intended for special occasions rather than everyday eating, or are fast food. So people from different areas may have different predjudices.

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    3. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by Dan+Farina · · Score: 1

      I don't think he's being a food bigot--but he made a good observation. I'm curious myself.

    4. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I think what he was getting at is the move away from the "family table." It used to be a big thing to sit down to supper without T.V., radio or any of our other technological time theives and actually talk to each other... There are things that I'm sad to see go, and this one of them. When I have kids, I think I'll make dinner a family time to talk... For now, I'll take a number three with extra greese...

      There is also a misconception that all take out is unhealthy (and a lot of it is), but there are some good places to subs or lighter food on the go. Yum.

    5. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      I've just moved out 4 weeks ago, mostly because I got a job about 200km away from home. The food we can buy at work is pretty damn good, actually. There are different hot dishes, veggie dishes and sub-30% fat dishes every day, in addition to a pretty damn sweet salad bar. What I do is I usually have the hot dish or the sub-30% dish around noon, and some light food at home in the evening, mostly something like a few slices of rye bread and an apple or two.

      In addition to fitting my personal rhythm better, I've also lost almost 4kg these 4 weeks. Dunno if it's just coicidence, but I actually feel better, too.

      I guess moving from a "large meal in the evening" rhythm to a "large meal at noon" rhythm was a good idea, after all.

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    6. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by R.Caley · · Score: 1
      when you're cooking for one or two people, it's easier and cheaper to eat out, particularly when you factor in time of preparation.

      I can cook something more quickly than I could get to a restaurant, so preparation time isn't an issue, and I certainly think the cost comparison can't be true -- the meal I made on Saturday would have come to maybe 3 quid for 2 big servings. I wouldn't weant to eat in a restaurant which charged less than that. Took about 5 minutes preparation (human time, rather more elapsed of course).

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    7. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by torpor · · Score: 1

      I lived in LA for 15 years, and I think I cooked for myself maybe .. 6 .. times.

      Thats life in the Borg for you. Sorry, but I'll never be able to cook a burrito like the lower classes do ..

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    8. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by The-Bus · · Score: 1

      I'll get to the on-topic post in a little bit.

      I've lived "on my own" for the past 4 years and although I know how to cook certain meals and I like to experiment in the kitchen, it's something I associate as a "hobby" - I go down to the fresh market, buy salmon, buy leafy greens I've never heard of, etc. with results that are sometimes visually disastrous (3 ft. tall flames englufing a Jack Daniel's-soaked salmon fillet) yet still delicious. Most of the time, it is a pain in the ass to get home from work late in the day (say, 8pm) and then spend an hour doing more "work", cooking as opposed to just eating.

      I've found, for the budget conscious, that $20 in Chinese food will usually get me and a companion through most of the week. I've also cultivated a mental list of which days food is cheap where. Mind you, I live in a borderline suburban/rural location in a state famous for its love of chain restaurants, so my choices are pretty limiting. However, the local Irish restaurant/pub has half-price appetizer Mondays (half-rack of ribs... $4.45!) and half-price burgers on Tuesdays (bison + bacon cheeseburger, caesar salad, asparagus... $4.95!). Wednesdays the local brewery has half-price gourmet pizzas (portobella, shiitake, oyster and crimini mushrooms, grilled red onion, fresh herbs, fontina and mozzarella... $4.75!) which are large enough to split.

      Even going to "finer" restaurants can be quite cheap. I've found that most portions that now go as appetizers are enough for me to split with someone else and we're both satisfied. Mind you this is somewhere where you're paying $15 for an appetizer (they usually call them something preposterously self-important, like "beginnings").

      That said, home cooking is still best, not only because of the price but because you know, at least moreso than if you're at a restaurant, what exactly you are eating.

      And the on-topic comment? I highly recommend stock.xchng which carries my personal distinction of being the only Hungarian site I ever visit.

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    9. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by allgood2 · · Score: 1

      I agree with kamapuaa. I'm a pretty good cook. But cooking for one is expensive. Especially if you prefer fresh meats and vegetables over frozen or pre-packaged. So I eat take out a lot, and cook for myself or myself and friends about once a week or so (not including giving new recipes a whirl. Now that doesn't mean I order out or eat out for 20 meals a week. Typically, I keep lots of fresh fruit and salad supplies around, as well as can soup, cheese, apples, and crackers.

      But preparation of a meal, even a simple one can cost between $20-$40 or more (admittedly there's always left over ingredient, but..), whereas a delivery order can be $10-$20.

    10. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by Nos. · · Score: 1

      Wow, I don't know how even a smiple meal can cost you $20 or more. Take the following meals I prepare regularaly for my wife and I (all prices are CDN $):

      • Spaghetti w/Meat Sauce, Garlic toast, salad
        Total Cost: About $8
        Under $1 for the spaghetti, $3 for the can of meat sauce, under $1 for the garlic toast (bread toasted, butter, garlic salt) about $3 for the salad (lettuce, carrots, etc.)
      • Steak and Potatoes
        Total Cost: $8-$14
        Steak - depends, can vary from $4 to $10 (yes, this is fresh, butcher cut, or grocery store meat - just depends how much we want). Potatoes, $1. Vegetables $3, additional ingredients $1 (I often cook the steak in onion soup mix)
      • Chicken Caesar Salad
        Total Cost: $6
        Two Chicken Breasts: $3, caesar salad mix $3

      That's just a few meals but a gives a good idea of what it costs the two of us to eat a meal, and if anything, those costs are high. I dont' think I can spend much more than $20 on a meal for the two of us, but for the two of us to eat a decent comparable meal at a restaurant would cost minimum $30, not too mention it most cases it would take longer to go out than to cook at home. Actually, McDonald's costs the two of us $10 to eat. I can usually do steak and potatoes for less, I can probably do a full roast beef dinner for all of about $15-$20 that would feed at least 4 people, or do 2-3 meals for my wife and I.

      Now, for a single guy, you just have to shop smarter. Buy a package of 4 chicken breasts (boneless, skinless of course) and when you get home, wrap them in meal sized portions (I did some in singles, some in doubles). Its not that tough, and when I was in university, I could either cook good, nutritious meals, or hit the drive thru. I took the drive thru and found myself broke and not feeling very well.

    11. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But cooking for one is expensive. Especially if you prefer fresh meats and vegetables over frozen or pre-packaged. So I eat take out a lot

      Wait...so, you prefer fresh foods rather than packaged/frozen food. But thats too expensive, so you eat fast food instead. Are you somehow under the illusion that fast food is fresh?

    12. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      when you're cooking for one or two people, it's easier and cheaper to eat out, particularly when you factor in time of preparation.

      I notice you didn't mention healthier. As well you shouldn't have -- the cooks at restaurants don't love you. They don't care whether you maintain a healthy diet. The main objective of restaurants is to get your money.

      Most of the people who cook do it more as a fun activity or hobby than a superior way of eating.

      Oh? According to which studies?

      I think your cultural bias is showing.

    13. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by RetroGeek · · Score: 1

      When I have kids, I think I'll make dinner a family time to talk

      Do it.

      Don't let your TV bring up your kids.

      We made sure that supper was eaten together, at the dining table. We have well-adjusted kids, who don't smoke, do druges, rarely drink.

      NOTHING beats interaction with your kids.

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    14. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by rebelcool · · Score: 1

      theres a heck of alot of fast, fresh, takeout food these days. Granted, i'm sure alot of midwestern steak n' potato type towns don't have alot of this, but you'll find it on the coasts and in large cities.

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    15. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

      Obviously you don't live in an area with restaurants intended for everyday eating. So I'm not surprised that you're limited to restaurants that were either too expensive or drive thrus. As my post was saying, there are areas for which this is not the case. If I lived in such an area, probably I would cook almost all my meals as well.

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    16. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by kamapuaa · · Score: 1
      The main objective of restaurants is to get your money.[...]I think your cultural bias is showing.

      Speaking of cultural biases coming through...

      Do you look at what's on your plate? If your plate has a Bic Mac on it with a large side of French Fries, it's not healthy. If it had some meat, some carbs, and some vegetables on it, without a lot of sugar and grease, it's healthy. Blaming restaurants for what any little child knows is kind of odd. Your mindset reminds me of the lawsuits blaming McDonald's for making people fat.

      And I can't talk about what's completely obvious (people without children in cities go to restaurants a lot) without having to cite studies? Can you show me studies that they don't?

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    17. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by angle_slam · · Score: 1

      Agree. My wife was watching FoodTV and tried one of the Thirty Minute Meals. Turned out to have required a $45 grocery bill and 2.5 hours to cook. I could have just gotten some take out for $10-15.

    18. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by Nos. · · Score: 1

      My apologies my (admittedly limited) experience does not include restaurants intended for daily eating. Though, the cafeteria at my place of work would probably be close, with complete meals available for under $5. However, they are only open from 7:00am until 4:00pm. I also normally pack my own lunch as I can do so for much less than $5.

    19. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It is entirely possible to go to restaurants for every meal and eat only healthy food. Here's a hint, healthy food has about as much to do with love as sex does. They go nicely together but one does not necessarily follow the other.

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    20. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by Jaycatt · · Score: 1

      Having a well stocked kitchen helps. Most oriental recipes I cook take around 10 ingredients. The fresh ingredients don't cost a lot (chicken, veggies). However, it's the other ingredients that cost you. Don't have soy sauce? Have to buy a whole bottle. Don't have the chili sauce with garlic? Buy a jar. Sure, at first it might cost more, to get the ingredients in their quantities. But eventually you don't have to buy the garlic salt, or the basil, or whatever, because you've already got it. In that way, cooking can be cheap. Especially when all you have to buy to make up a recipe is chicken and green onions.

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    21. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by Trillan · · Score: 1

      Kraft Dinner (or Kraft Macoroni & Cheese, if you prefer) has been a staple of college students and bachelors for years, and you just realized this today? :)

    22. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by allgood2 · · Score: 1

      I didn't say I eat fast food. I do on occasion, like once or twice a year. I said, I eat take out. There's a great Mediterranean, Italian, Indian, and Pizza place near my flat. Plus there a great Comfort food dinner (pot roast, meatloaf, mac & cheese, etc.), nearby as well. Eating good food, from good restaurants rather inexpensively is pretty easy. Not as cheap as buying in bulk or hitting a Trader Joe's. But cheaper than hitting the co-op or fresh food market.

    23. Re:The guy doesn't make his own food? by allgood2 · · Score: 1

      Which is why a lot of my cooking also goes in cycles like Asian influence, tons of Italian, etc. Because I have the spices and sauces and just need the meats and veggies.

  12. I like internet pictures. by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 4, Interesting
    When you spends a certain ammount of time on the internet, you eventually realise there are pictures besides pron and goatse out there. I personally have taken a recent interest in photo art on the web. My favorite artist is Jenni Tampanila. Check out her work here:

    http://www.suzi9mm.com/

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    1. Re:I like internet pictures. by trawg · · Score: 4, Funny

      You would probably direct more users to her site if you added "... and yes, there are boobs"

    2. Re:I like internet pictures. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha, its got this one too. I hope he got paid well.

    3. Re:I like internet pictures. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now you've done it.

    4. Re:I like internet pictures. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And blood and razors and plastic sheets over bodies...

      Pretty disturbing.

    5. Re:I like internet pictures. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      So you like to see people cut up and other disturbng images. Why is it modded up as interesting ? Are so many people interested in blood and gore or is it just because its slashdot and there are boobies on that site

      Aw well! who am I kidding ? *goes to check out the boobies on suzi9mm.com*

    6. Re:I like internet pictures. by darkewolf · · Score: 1

      Ah, suzi9mm is a great lass and an awesome artist. Her material is well worth exploring.

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      Nimheil
    7. Re:I like internet pictures. by wormeyman · · Score: 1

      Wow that site has some creapy pictures.

    8. Re:I like internet pictures. by ndogg · · Score: 1

      She is definitely awesome.

      If people are curious, or want to keep up-to-date with her work, check out her deviantArt account.

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    9. Re:I like internet pictures. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The name of the artist is spelled correctly on the very fucking page you linked, yet you failed it.

    10. Re:I like internet pictures. by sharkey · · Score: 1

      But are they Jenni's boobs, or Dex's?

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    11. Re:I like internet pictures. by Nemi · · Score: 1
      Ah, suzi9mm is a great lass

      Just the kind of girl I want to take home to mom...

    12. Re:I like internet pictures. by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      Because a nude women with nipple clamps, a bad dye job, and biting on a BSDM whip isn't porn? :)

      http://www.suzi9mm.com/full.php?id=66

    13. Re:I like internet pictures. by RedBear · · Score: 1

      He could also probably help keep a few people from being traumatized by noting that there are a lot of photos of blood and death on that website. This person seems to have an obsession with blood, sharp implements, sliced up women and very graphic death images. Even the non-person and "humorous" photos have blood references! I'm not here to judge anyone but most of polite society would call that website really f--ked up.

      Fake blood and fake death, to be sure, but it's still gross and not something that everyone appreciates looking at without being warned. I'm assuming that your intention was not trolling, but that stuff you linked to bugs me more than goatse links ever did. Thanks a lot.

      Yeah, there are some boobs, people, but trust me, it ain't worth it.

  13. Sad by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a million reality TV shows, only without the pain and humiliation.

    It's sad when you have to start explaining reality (and pictures thereof) to people as "kind of like reality TV."

    1. Re:Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I've had to start talking about my using the term "Like in The Sims."

    2. Re:Sad by Duncan3 · · Score: 1

      Between TV, video games, and the internet, and the media bubble the US lives in most kids don't have any idea what reality is. Just millions of obese couch potatos.

      The trend may not pass, but they will.

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    3. Re:Sad by 10101001+10101001 · · Score: 1

      If you mean it's sad that "reality TV" is so pervasive that a comment about reality blogs needs a mention of how it's different, then I'd agree. If you took the comment to mean that people don't have an understand of reality outside of "reality TV", I think you're misreading the explanation. It's designed to clarify a question that the submitter thinks will be asked.

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    4. Re:Sad by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 1

      I was kidding.

  14. Humiliation by Sheepdot · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fotolog CEO Adam Seifer, who posts a picture of every meal he eats on Get In My Belly!, calls the Fotolog-Flickr-HeyPix-Smugmug phenomenon 'a million reality TV shows, only without the pain and humiliation.'

    I don't know what's worse, the fact that the guy is the CEO of a site that caters to weirdos and doesn't think it is, or the fact that he doesn't find his website name, "Get In My Belly!", humiliating.

    1. Re:Humiliation by Jnickraz · · Score: 1

      Why find it humiliating? I personally find this to be quite neat, knowing that there are CEO's that are actually like the rest of us. He does silly things, lives a normal life, but just happens to be rich (Im assuming... if he is CEO)

    2. Re:Humiliation by Gopal.V · · Score: 1
      > the fact that the guy is the CEO of a site that caters to weirdos and doesn't think it is, or the fact that he doesn't find his website name, "Get In My Belly!", humiliating.

      Of course all decent readers will interpret that as content ingested by the mouth. If you accidentally imagine something other wise (*umm*..) , please see this to be cleansed.

      Of course, cannibalism is the only crime more henious than murder ... (and Hitler was a vegetarian). [*confused*]
    3. Re:Humiliation by drsquare · · Score: 1

      He's not an actual CEO, like of an important company, he's a CEO of a website. The same way I'm the CEO of my bedroom.

  15. absolutely shameless self promotion by demian031 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    try my hacker friendly zen-ish python based gpl web gallery system pix.

  16. IMO... by goss · · Score: 5, Funny

    "a million reality TV shows, only without the pain and humiliation"

    Aren't those the main components of "reality" tv shows?

    1. Re:IMO... by prichardson · · Score: 1

      That's the point. These photos DON'T include that, for the most part.

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    2. Re:IMO... by goss · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I realize that...but my point was more that if a tv show doesn't include those elements, then it isn't "reality" tv as it exists at the moment... a bit OT, thats all.

  17. Didn't RTFA, but... by torinth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For a lot of city dwellers, yes. Kitchens are expensive real estate, grocers are always packed, and the combination of restaurant competition and higher-than-average salaries makes prepared food relatively affordable.

    1. Re:Didn't RTFA, but... by prockcore · · Score: 1

      Kitchens are expensive real estate, grocers are always packed

      Yogi Berra? Is that you?

    2. Re:Didn't RTFA, but... by shufler · · Score: 1

      You're crazy if you're to belive this.

      I went produce shopping yesterday, and bought all the produce for a week or two for $16. I only bought produce because I buy meat once a month (note this is for the entire month -- 30+ cuts of meat), and I don't have to do this again for some time. This usually costs $50-60.

      At around $100 a month for FOOD, that is far less expensive than buying a $20 pizza, or bucket of chicken, or plate of fish, or whatever every night. So I spend 15 minutes of my day perparing food. It takes that long to get in the car, drive to the fast food outlet, and wait for the food to be "prepared," and come back home.

      People who think prepared food is affordable have never spent any time in a proper grocery store.

    3. Re:Didn't RTFA, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. I went to the grocerry store yesterday and spent $20 to buy food for 3 days. 1 Container of Tropicana oranage juice costs $2.50 and that lasts 3-4 days. 1 pound of Shrimp (enough for 2 meals) = $10. Do you eat fish? Bacon? Cheese? A months supply of vegetables = $50. I spend $250-300 a month on groceries and I live alone. Unless you eat rice or Ramen noodles every day how do you make your money go so far?

    4. Re:Didn't RTFA, but... by shufler · · Score: 1

      Buying no-name or the grocery store's brandname items saves money. I used to buy Tropicana (I hate juices from concentrate for a variety of reasons), but now buy the storebrand. It's less than $2. Also, I belong to the store's discount club which if I time purchases right, I save a bunch in addition.

      The club also includes deals like buy 1 get one free meat on large packages, so I can buy a dozen pork chops for $11 or so. Actually, when I think about it, most cuts of meat I buy cost around a dollar each. I eat fish, but I again, I only buy it in bulk (frozen fish is expensive as hell). I haven't bought cheese in a while, mostly because it's expensive and I haven't seen any affordable deals. As for bacon, I picked up two 28-packs of pork sausages for less than $3 each, as they were close to expiration. Just throw them in the freezer, and make sure you cook them, and they're fine.

      I also should point out that since I work at home, I have the time to hang around grocery stores and markets during the day, when the *best* prices are (most produce markets around here raise their prices just before rush hour, and on weekends).

    5. Re:Didn't RTFA, but... by bluGill · · Score: 1

      (I hate juices from concentrate for a variety of reasons)

      Have you read the labels? Last time I checked I couldn't get any juice at my local grocery store that wasn't from concentrate. Now it has been several years since I last looked, so maybe things have changed. As I recall though, all the juice was from concentrate. The store brands are even more likely to be from concentrate.

      I love not from concentrate juice. However the only place I've been able to find it is at the gas station (and not all of them) in one serving sizes. Cost nearly as much as the grocer's gallon jugs of juice.

    6. Re:Didn't RTFA, but... by bluGill · · Score: 1

      Where do you find a restaurant that will serve the same quality foods that you just bought? I know of a few, but they are $20/meal or more. 1 Pound of shrimp is $10, but buy it at a restaurant and you are looking at $20/pound. (though it is hard to compare since you get some cheap vegetable with it)

    7. Re:Didn't RTFA, but... by shufler · · Score: 1

      Of course I read the labels. I (try to) only buy juices that are pure juice. Here in Canada, I believe there is a law which makes it illegal to package a beverage as a "juice" unless it actually consists (primarily) of juice.

      Usually juice from concetrate consists of water (sometimes they will specify if it's filtered, mineral, spring, or whatever the word of the day for H2O is), and the concentrates of the fruits. These may be reveresed depending on which is in greater proportion. Sugar may or may not be on that list. Depending on the proportion of sugar, it becomes a "drink," "beverage," "cocktail," or some form of "-ade." This is usally the case when sugar is listed as the second ingredient, or when the flavouring is artificial. I've noticed a trend now where most juices will note the naturally occuring sugars, and point out there's either "no added sugar" or "no refined sugar," depending I guess if the juice is marketed to normal people or raw food nuts.

      Now, all the juice I buy is labelled as juice, and the ingredients will simply list the juice of the fruits (or vegetables, if applicable). Apple juice consists of apple juice. Orange, orange juice. The apple pineapple banana juice I have lists: "Apple juice, pineapple juice, banana juice, vitamin C" (as if there wasn't enough already).

      The next thing for me to figure out is how much juice I can get from an individual fruit, and figure out if it's cheaper to buy juice vs. jucing fruit.

      I hope this doesn't make me sound like one of those wack-job fruititarians.

  18. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...I think I'm gonna take pictures of the people who take pictures of wierd things...
    And I'm gonna take pictures of people driving gas-guzzling foriegn SUV's with "Support our Troops" magnetic yellow ribbons (made, of course, in China), for a Blog called "Support our Shieks".
  19. and this is newsworthy why? by jefftherhino · · Score: 1, Insightful

    this isn't up to the quality of story i'm used to from slashdot. oh wait. that ended c.2000

    1. Re:and this is newsworthy why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You expect us to believe you were reading slashdot in 2000 mr 851,140?

    2. Re:and this is newsworthy why? by jefftherhino · · Score: 1

      hmm... if i could only remember my original username and password, you would FEAR me. ok, not really, but it was a while back. maybe 1997?

  20. LINKY! by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 0

    POST LINKS PLZ!!!1!!

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    1. Re:LINKY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:LINKY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THANKS

  21. imagemagick by CABAN · · Score: 1

    I use http://www.photodump.com/. It utilizes imagemagick functions. http://www.imagemagick.org/ It's actually useful for editing online.

  22. I think Photos are the "Killer App" of Blogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just launched my own blog http://jmckee.net mainly because I take a ton of photos between my camera phone and Digital Elph. I really don't have the desire or energy (Or think anyone really cares) to write a text blog, but there are a ton of photos that I would love to share with family and friends, thus the blog. It really is camera phones that are going to make this whole thing take off, all of a sudden you have a camera with you everywhere and if you are anything like me and my friends you end up with a ton of photos, but no easy way to share them with other people, this is the way. I can take a picture with my phone, hit a few keys and in seconds it is posted to my blog wherever I am.

  23. Flickr has huge potential by Pyr05x · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I finally got the digital camera I wanted for Xmas '04.

    I tried out Flickr, and signed up for a year about an hour later... It has an amazing simple interface for organising/tagging etc.

    Better still though, is a published API: http://www.flickr.com/services/api/

    The best usage of this i've found so far is Colrpickr: http://www.krazydad.com/colrpickr/index.php?group= flickrcentral

    1. Re:Flickr has huge potential by zurab · · Score: 2, Informative

      I tried flickr. It failed to upload my images about 15 times saying server was too busy and there was nothing I could do but wait for few hours and see if something got uploaded or not. At some point, finally, one picture got through - I tried to view it - it tried to load the picture in flash and crashed my browsers. I kept asking myself why they would do such a horrible job, and then I found zoto.com. It has the best user interface that works cross-platform, cross-browser (yes, even with Konqueror) with simple drag and drop capabilities. You can upload pictures via the browser or via a PC client - yes, even a Linux client - that will keep your pictures directory synchronized with your zoto.com account.

      Overall, I like zoto.com way better than flickr, as you can tell.

    2. Re:Flickr has huge potential by slinky259 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Flickr is also cross platform and cross browser.

      Every now and then they mess with the servers, though, so there is some downtime. When it is working, though (which is most of the time) it works beautifully.

    3. Re:Flickr has huge potential by zurab · · Score: 2, Informative
      Flickr is also cross platform and cross browser.

      Maybe, but that "cross" does not cross to anything I use.

      First off, as I said before, I don't know what flickr does with Flash, or most importantly - why they bother using it - but images don't display in either Firefox or Konqueror for me - they crash the flash plugin (Konq survives the plugin crash while Firefox goes with it but that's another browser issue). I question the use of the flash plugin to display images altogether. Zoto.com displays images as they are without using any flash and uses DHTML drag and drop interface that works in IE, Firefox, Opera, KHTML (Safari and Konqueror) and any other browser that is based on one of those. It has many drag and drop features besides categorizing and picture management as well like Zwipe, blog publishing, etc. For me flash plugin crashing doesn't qualify as cross-browser.

      As far as cross-platform, again not for me. From the flickr help page:

      We provide a range of uploading tools to help you get your photos into Flickr, for both Windows and Mac users. (emphasis mine)

      That's like saying a European auto service garage fixes both European cars - BMWs and Volkswagens - as if those are the only 2. While Zoto.com upload/sync client page besides having a Windows and Mac port has a Qt/Python port as well making it closer to truly cross-platform implementation.
    4. Re:Flickr has huge potential by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't like Flash, why have the plugin installed? It degrades fine to HTML, here.

    5. Re:Flickr has huge potential by zurab · · Score: 1

      Hmm... I didn't know that they did that. I'll try and look for a preferences setting on flickr that will turn off flash for my flickr browsing. I think that would be a useful feature/setting (in a cookie, or account database) if they don't have it already.

      As far as why I have the flash plugin installed - because there are other sites that use flash that I'd like to view and that don't crash the plugin. I'm not religiously against flash in general, but I just don't see why they needed to use it to display images.

    6. Re:Flickr has huge potential by he-sk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Flickr uses Flash to display the photos, so you can add notes to them. Notes are litttle squares with text underneath, that render directly on the photo. Makes for great annotating. When the mouse is over the photo you see the squares, when the mouse leaves the picture, they fade away. See this and this.

      Also, there is a Linux uploader for Flickr available here.

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    7. Re:Flickr has huge potential by c · · Score: 1
      from the tooting-own-horn dept.

      As far as cross-platform, again not for me.


      I don't think you looked too hard, unless you're using an obscenely unpopular platform.


      Latest release of the Flickr::Upload module on CPAN includes a perl-Tk uploader. And a command-line uploader. There's a bunch of other (probably more complete) uploaders listed here.


      Not official Flickr services, but one of the advantages of opening up the API is that other people can work out the support for the less mainstream users.


      I do agree that the Flash thing is annoying. But you don't have to have Flash enabled to use the site. In fact, browsing Flickr is noticeably faster without a Flash plugin.


      c.

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    8. Re:Flickr has huge potential by anaesthetica · · Score: 0

      They use flash to prevent people from right-clicking to save your pictures. Extremely 1337 .tec to prevent picture hax0r-pirates from stealing your copyright photos of dogs noses.

  24. How about a ... by ggvaidya · · Score: 3, Funny

    Slashdot-like website, except that every article *has* to be a single "shot" - a one line single statement, with either a word or sentence limit? So the front page will be like:
    * Google changes dictionary provider [categories: google, business, wikipedia, dupe]
    * Adam West in new Batman cartoon [notserious, batman]
    * Apple litigation in ending stages [legal, apple]

    Some suitably smart mechanism will make the categories be votable (allowing category tags like "w00t", "dupe" and, heck, "boobies" to be added by readers, for instance). The most visited websites will get onto the front page. People posting crap will get categorized "crap", and stuff which is silly but funny can become "unintentional-funny" or something.

    My rather worthless two cents :P. But slashshot.org sounds cool - keep us updated. Why don't you write about it in your journal?

    1. Re:How about a ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't you describing Fark.com?

    2. Re:How about a ... by ggvaidya · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh yeah :P ... thought my idea sounded kinda familiar.

      Well, categorization would be better, commenting would be more slashdot-like, and the site would be more SFW. Also less squirrels with big nuts :P

      Also, getting stuff up on the site would be more of a community thing (yes, like K5) and would be tech-focussed (like /.). Sorta like the quicker, faster, neater younger brother /. never had ...

      I could be just dreaming. It's all I ever do at college, anyway :P.

    3. Re:How about a ... by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1
      In addition to watching at least two species mate with each other.

      I mean, you have moved to George's Park, haven't you?

    4. Re:How about a ... by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

      Dude - same species! Trust me ...

      No, no, in Old Kent Ridge^W^W^W Ridge View Residences now. :) Long time no see, how're you getting on?

  25. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by ckemp.org · · Score: 1

    Could somebody explain this to me, though?

    They're circles in squares. Um. Cool?

  26. Get In My Belly by NoGuffCheck · · Score: 1

    posts a picture of every meal he eats on Get In My Belly!, calls the Fotolog-Flickr-HeyPix-Smugmug phenomenon 'a million reality TV shows, only without the pain and humiliation.

    try telling that to tubgirl...

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  27. Foot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm taking a picture of my right foot every day for a year (I started this year).

  28. My experiences with Flickr by metalhed77 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Flickr, if I may say, is one of the best designed web apps out there. It's quick to use, clean, and very featureful. Additionally it seems to have a semi-open API because I see tons of projects (like the squared circle collage) being made out stuff on there. And, most importantly, the interface makes ample use of DHTML and flash in a way that is genuinely useful. Interface elements that on most sites require loading a new page (say changing the title of an image you uploaded) or changing your navigation style are either javascripted or implemented very elegantly in flash. It feels quite close in many ways to a traditional app.

    The groups on it are also good for meeting people and sharing tips / techniques. My one complaint about these groups is that people are *too* nice. Even in the ones where it is required that users include negative feedback, none ever is.

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    1. Re:My experiences with Flickr by weave · · Score: 1

      If you want negative comments about your pics, post them to mobog.com. WARNING: Site is not safe for work.

    2. Re:My experiences with Flickr by efatapo · · Score: 1

      I have a friend who uses Flickr but I personally use Pbase.com which I absolutely love and can't believe it wasn't mentioned here. From the standpoint of accessing photos, it can't be beat. $23/year for 200MB of storage space. You upload individual images or Zip files and Pbase makes thumbnails and other smaller sizes, as well as allows you access to the original image. In the last two months they have transitioned to new servers/hosting so the service hasn't been great...but they comp'd those two months for subscribers. They also allow you direct linking to images.

      There are some amazing photographers on Pbase as well.

      Here's my collection of photos.

  29. I phlog hard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Another photo-sharing site not referenced in the original article is http://www.phlog.net/ (as in PHoto webLOG or PHone webLOG).

    I've been using that site for a few months now (refer http://www.phlog.net/user/OzDJ) and I'm hooked. Family and friends often ask me "why would you bother?" and I tell them that I look at it this way....

    I reckon that the extraordinary events/times/places that we experience typically occupy less than 5% of our conscious lifetime. The other 95% is very mundane day-to-day stuff, yet it shapes who we are and - ultimately - how the world itself advances (or otherwise). Photos of the day-to-day make up some of the best historical photographic exhibitions I've ever been to.

    And when I'm on my deathbed in (hopefully many) years to come, I anticipate that my loved ones will care more about "the little stories" than "pix of Grandad's xxth birthday" or "pix of Grandad standing in front of the Taj Mahal in 19xx". And I'm far more prepared to trust those stories to an online blogging service than my already-alzheimers-affected grey matter. :-)

    Cheers

    OzDJ - Sydney, NSW, AU
    http://www.phlog.net/user/OzDJ
    OzDJ@phlog.net

    1. Re:I phlog hard. by muggy2 · · Score: 1

      Phlog also has a flick-like API, just mail the guy who runs it (aka me) and I'll give you an API key and a link to the API.

  30. many popular sites are missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Strange that they forgot many popular sites like www.fotki.com or www.pbase.com.

  31. Less amateur works: photo.net by jpatokal · · Score: 4, Informative
    For more serious photography, check out photo.net, started by Philip Greenspun of ArsDigita fame. Still lots of random pictures to be found, but the quasi-moderation system of ratings does a pretty good job of sorting out the wheat from the chaff; check out the last three day's top-rated pictures for an example. The service is free to use, but people with popular pictures get more disk space -- or you can get it the old-fashioned way by paying.

    Obligatory own gallery whoring: me! me! me!

    And psst: since this is Slashdot, you'll want to know that there's some pretty damn good free pr0... err, I mean kinky photography out there too.

    Cheers,
    -j.

    1. Re:Less amateur works: photo.net by The+Famous+Brett+Wat · · Score: 1

      Nice photos, Jani.

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    2. Re:Less amateur works: photo.net by pmhudepo · · Score: 1

      Funny you should mention but the quasi-moderation system of ratings does a pretty good job of sorting out the wheat from the chaff; since we get a ton of postings regarding the rating system in the Site Feedback forum every week. Oh well...

  32. No link ... by houghi · · Score: 1

    to the goatse guy?

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    1. Re:No link ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why, do you think you'll be able to see what he ate? Ugh.

    2. Re:No link ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  33. I *love* photosharing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Gimme a P!

    Gimme a R!

    Gimme a 0!

    Gimme an N!

    What does that spell? Gigabytes and gigabytes of amateur pr0n!

    Thank you Flickr and Webshots and particularly Photobucket. And Livejournal for linking to 'em all.

    1. Re:I *love* photosharing! by drsquare · · Score: 0

      Do we really want amateur porn? Most girls aren't in professional porn because they're not qualified to do it professionally, because they're ugly, fat, saggy, stretchmarked, hairy, scarred etc. Who wants porn of such girls, other than fetishists? There's a reason attractive women are always getting their pictures taken naked, people will pay for it, whilst lower-quality women have to find another job.

  34. Flickr by slinky259 · · Score: 1

    Like a few others have said, I highly recommend Flickr.

    I have a paid account, and it's well worth the money. It's the only online service I've ever paid for, and I don't regret it.

    You can check out my photos if you want. Interested in what's going on in a Science and Tech magnet high school?

  35. Don't forget the chicks by BunnyClaws · · Score: 0

    http://www.nonnudegirls.org/ Here is a board where they only collect online photos of females.

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  36. Pain is everything by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1
    only without the pain and humiliation.

    Well where's the sport in that?

  37. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1

    Just what the Goatse.cx guy was thinking...

    (Common, a article on /. about pictures has to have a few post mentioning the G-man, right?)

  38. Host your photos yourself by SKPhoton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's so much nicer hosting your photography yourself. No worries about how much of your work you can put online, other than how much hard drive space you can cram in. I've had great luck hosting with Gallery.

    My Photography, for example.

    1. Re:Host your photos yourself by Kris_J · · Score: 1

      It's so much nicer hosting your photography on a big powerful website. No worries about how popular your work is, other than how how fast you can fill your monthly quota. I've had great luck hosting with Flickr (one Gig upload per month for paying accounts, no storage maximum). And people browsing my collection don't affect my on-line gaming.

    2. Re:Host your photos yourself by SKPhoton · · Score: 1

      That's true. Point taken. That sounds like a nice deal. I prefer to have complete control over the entire site and exactly how everything is handled. But that's just me.

    3. Re:Host your photos yourself by LogicX · · Score: 1

      I agree. My problem with most of these photo services is that they limit you to SMALL file sizes. Its understandable -- it takes a lot of space to host huge images. I just can't deal with looking at images that're pint-size. I personally host all my 5MP images on my own gallery integrated with Mambo. I even did a little hack to enable Mambo-Gallery SEF URLs and a few other cool features. I'm not able to use my online gallery as my primary method of storing and organizing my photos.

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    4. Re:Host your photos yourself by DJCF · · Score: 2, Informative

      Completely agreed! (See my other post here )

    5. Re:Host your photos yourself by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 1

      This is why I have a shell account on a server that lets me run gallery. Best of both worlds - full control over my site, while not having it do anything to my connection.

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    6. Re:Host your photos yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With tagging and grouping on a popular site, your work is put on display to a potentially large audience... very simply. To me that's one of the biggest benefits of something like flickr.

  39. LiveJournal Image Theft by madmancarman · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but one of my favorite things now and then is to load one of the LJ Image Theft pages that are out there. It grabs the last 200 images posted to LiveJournal, and even though it's largely quizilla results and photos of teenage girls attempting to convey some sort of random emotion, occasionally some interesting memes occur. Recently, when Hunter S. Thompson died, a bunch of people posted photos of him or from the movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, and one linked to his piece "The Kentucky Derby is Decadent and Depraved", which I probably never would have read had I not stumbled across it through LJ Image Theft.

    However, it's important to note that some people post some pretty weird shit on LiveJournal - especially the Russians! - so it's not always work safe. Actually, sometimes that's what makes it so interesting - you can almost put your finger on the pulse of what's going on in people's heads across the world by scanning through the photos, and the time of day makes a difference, too. For example, St. Patrick's Day is coming up, so I'm sure there are going to be more and more images with shamrocks and leprechauns in them. Needless to say, Valentine's Day was an interesting one as well - lots of broken heart graphics and photos with faces scribbled out. Just get used to seeing this photo of a cat passed out next to a bottle of booze, because it's in there every other time I load the script.

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  40. camera phone pics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out mobog.com for some good camera phone pics.

    I don't think they moderate them... so make sure you don't view this at work. Websense shows it as "adult content" though you have the option of viewing material suited for 18 and above...

  41. Re:Offtopic: Help with Knoppix by caffeineHacker · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm using Linux (Knoppix) for the first time right now. It's cool and everything, but how come I haven't turned gay yet?
    Okay, this is a common problem. Goto a terminal(The thing that looks like a screen with a seashell in front of it for no apparent reason) and type in:
    man mount
    Also, how long will it take for my GNU/Hippie beard to grow?
    That depends on body weight/odor. Try eating high fat foods(A tub of crisco works well) and keep your eyes on the screen at all times. Also, do NOT use deodorant...it will double the time to grow a nice healthy RMS style beard. Ohh...and saying GNU/Linux helps too.
    Should I stop showering today or tomorrow? I need help!
    Stop immediately. If you've recently showered, it's okay, just don't let it happen again. If you do the BSD Demons will come and showering(or lack thereof) will be the least of your worries...you've been warned!

  42. My experiences with Smugmug by TheShadowHawk · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have personally found Smugmug a good site to use.

    The fact that I can just upload my originals and it does the rest with regards to resizing them to 3 different sizes (small, medium, large) plus with a nice interface with no annoying adds. Plus no size limits and good site speeds are a bonus.

    Warning:LINK WHORE! Yes yes, feel free to check out my gallery if you wish. :P I recommend the airshow!

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  43. To get ideas of what to eat, duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't tell me you've ALWAYS had a good answer to "what should I eat today?"

  44. Oh shit duck! by dauthur · · Score: 1

    Watch out, Google might fire someone for these style blogs too!

  45. photo a second by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read somewhere about people eventually being able to record their whole lives .. cause apparently a few terabyte can store a whole year (compressed). I'm thinking with about 100 gigs a year or so you can take a decent quality JPG once every second .. audio can be realtime compressed and stored in entirety rather than in slices .. on a portable HD that connects to a camera. That will be cool. The point? Personal history for oneself and future generations? I dunno .. maybe if it were streamed externally wireless in realtime it could reduce crime somehow ? IE, when you get mugged the muggers may be caught on tape? Maybe it can have bio sensors that record heartrate and things like that .. if it detects an anomaly it can call for help, maybe notify you, and transmit GPS location. Maybe it can take some kind of X-ray or IR picture of assailants so that they can be identified later (in case they have masks on etc). Bone structure is hard to fake.

  46. Real Pictures by DrWho42 · · Score: 1

    Like many of you here, I don't see the point in wasting bandwidth with pictures of all this banal crap that you see every day - like fast food. I am in the process of making my own photo sharing site (www.picturexchange.net) mostly for friends and family, but I like to post the 5% of my pictures that are the most beautiful and leave the rest for the digital bin.

    1. Re:Real Pictures by PigleT · · Score: 1

      Quite. I'm wondering if the proliferation of blog-style "photography" out there is devaluing the work of those of us who like to take our time devising a good photograph.
      (I have a graduation system: http://pig.sty.nu/Pictures/ shows just about everything I've taken, while http://pig.sty.nu/Pictures/gallery/ is a lot more refined, with per-picture captions etc.)

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    2. Re:Real Pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are missing a very important feature of putting photos on the web: You can have the viewers rate the pictures! That way you can post hundreds of pictures and then have the better ones be rated higher.

      I do photoing and am also working on a site. The details of this are still secret. I don't want to put the site up live until it is farther along that it is now.

      I use the photos that I take to do all of the backgrounds for the site. I want to set up the site so that when I see color that I like in a photo (of mine) that I can move the mouse over the picture and take rectangles out of the image for use as background images.

      I am not using anyone's plug in after the PHP B2B debacle, I don't want to have to post about what code base I am using. If I write it myself I don't have to worry that there is a hook in it to take down my site. Makes it happen a lot slower, but when it is on line it will be all mine.

      The hardest part is that the pictures are all there and available. I want revenue from these, so I just post thumbnails. I haven't gotten the part where the user likes the photo and wants to purchase a license. Any ideas?

      Photos of ordinary things will only become more valuble as time goes on. The mundane becomes interesting when it is historical.

      Again: set the site up to rate the photos and post all of them that are not just mistakes.

      Even fuzzy photos can have colors and shapes that might be cool as backgrounds.

  47. open source photo gallery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tired of paying someone to host your photo gallery? Try http://gallery.menalto.com/ -- if your server can handle it.

  48. You sceptics might enjoy this shot by thrashor · · Score: 1

    Check out this shot I took today at my local dump.

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  49. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you loved pointless, senseless, uninteresting, self-involved drivel from LiveJournal... YOU'LL LOVE PHOTO SITES!

  50. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by dirvish · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree, and it's not all "pictures of dogs' noses." There are some talented photographers on flickr (can't speak for the other sites). The majority of the users are point-and-click hacks like me, but a substantial portion of the pictures are very good.

  51. notice the submitter's email address by Mr+44 · · Score: 1

    Since when do people with @aol.com get articles accepted?

  52. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by janbjurstrom · · Score: 3, Informative

    Apparently, the main idea behind it is the slideshow - makes perfect transitions when every "squared circle" is identically cropped.

    Other than that, I don't get the 'point' either.. just something to do, probably.

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  53. What about PhotoSIG? by PenguinOpus · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm surprised no one has mentioned it so far, but
    by far the best moderated photo publish/review site is PhotoSIG:

    http://www.photosig.com/go/main;jsessionid=aVeKn nl N5829

    They get thousands of photos a day categorized and scored. Amateur and professional photographers make great effort to gain a good reputation for both their photos and their comments.

    Browse the categories and then browse the "best of"... the photos there are truly amazing.

  54. of photo sharing & published APIs by onethumb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Of particuarly interest to /. readers are probably those sites with open, thriving, growing APIs. smugmug's got one, as does flickr.

    The result, of course, is tons of user-created uploaders, organizers, applications, and even sister web services. Pretty sweet, if you ask me, and lots of fun. There's not many things more rewarding than a customer discovering the API and coming up with something brilliant.

    Disclaimer: I co-founded smugmug, so bias is present, but I've been a geek my whole life, so open APIs still get me excited. :)

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  55. Andy Warhol must spinning in his grave by museumpeace · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who knew when he said "in the future everybody will be famous for 15 minutes" we would use the internet to make his prediction come true and in the process discover that everybody is ugly and stupid looking for all but that 15 minutes.

    In at least one category, this profligate posting of pictures that snare a huge share of traffic is hardly new. blogs like...ehem, this one "share" pictures as good[bad?] as Penthouse charges for and I hear lots of people like those pictures too. Of course its just a come-on to get you to click through to the paid content but seems like it will be a while before pictures of quilts and puppies take up more bandwidth than publicized private parts

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    1. Re:Andy Warhol must spinning in his grave by museumpeace · · Score: 1

      then again...the very next random blog was http://stoplookenjoy.blogspot.com/ which is just pictures and they are nice studies of the geometric patterns and visual poetry of architecture and nature. I suppose there could be some bias in my surveying technique.

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  56. But it still uses Flash. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which is totally unnecessary. I know that Flickr has some advanced features (like the slideshow view) that make good use of Flash - but that's no reason to *require* people to use it. At some point, it's still loading HTML with JPEG images attached to it, but the Flash widget they use to load pictures does nothing but get in the way (it's an extra mouse click if you have the flash blocker installed).

    I'd be interested if they had a "Lite" view for those of us who detest Flash.

  57. Sadly yes by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I actually like to cook quite a bit, but for many meals I find myself lacking energy and/or time to prepare something and end up either eating takeout, or (shudder) frozen food matter.

    Soemtimes though we try to compromise and at least cook some fresh vegetables with whatever takeout we might have.

    I'm not even a core city dweller, I'm in deep suburbia and have a grocery store a very short drive away. It's a matter of energy and will to cook, along with having other things to do.

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  58. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You find something that you love... you share it with the world.

    Not when some sickos loves to share with you some goat porn.

  59. Great... by drigz · · Score: 3, Funny

    'a million reality TV shows, only without the pain and humiliation.'

    so just leaving the relentless boredom? - sounds accurate.

  60. Gallery2 by uss_valiant · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you're planning to create your own online gallery, I highly recommend G2, the successor of the original Gallery. It's a solution for personal galleries, for you and your friends and for community / commercial sites.

    It features plenty of features and more and more modules for the end user and it's a beauty on the inside for developers.

  61. Only 1 question... by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 1

    What's this talk of using an *api* to create a photo gallery? What's wrong with simply laying them out, 5 or 6 to a page? With having one box and Javascript snippets to change pictures? I dunno, I guess my fascination with retrocomputing has led me to value getting the most out of one's CPU cycles and storage. I'm probably the only guy left who refuses to do web site development using graphical tools...

    1. Re:Only 1 question... by PigleT · · Score: 1

      Better abstraction. If you write an API for a gallery, you can integrate it with your favourite blogging tool - post to gallery, sort of thing.

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    2. Re:Only 1 question... by drooling-dog · · Score: 1
      I'm probably the only guy left who refuses to do web site development using graphical tools...

      So there's two of us, then. Not so much a "refusal" as a skepticism of the alleged advantage, I guess...

  62. What about the reverse? by R.Caley · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Who looks at these things?

    I recently hunted down a sudden spike in bandwidth use on one of our servers to a picture of my nephew. I had stupidly left the full-resoultion image beside a web friendly one and people from all over the world had decided to have a look. It really doesn't take many to be noticable when the file is 500MB.

    My best guess is that the fact that my nephew's name, which was in the filename, is a simple one-letter typo away from that of a saint whose feast day was close to the start of the rise in bandwidth was the cause. Bloody google.

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    1. Re:What about the reverse? by Pyr05x · · Score: 1

      A 500Mb photo? How the hell did you manage that? Win BMP?

    2. Re:What about the reverse? by R.Caley · · Score: 1
      A 500Mb photo? How the hell did you manage that?

      OK, I exaggerated:-).

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  63. i've grown to like shutterbook.com by vena · · Score: 1

    Shutterbook is a nice one also, but it's more of a desktop app on the web type of solution. it's not a social networking app like many of the other solutions, but it's a heck of a lot more enjoyable to use imho.

    1. Re:i've grown to like shutterbook.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up, shutterbook is really cool.

    2. Re:i've grown to like shutterbook.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      for just getting your pics out there, and for the mom 'n pop thing, shutterbook is totally the best site. it has the simple appeal that apple promotes without all the fluff and technical wankery. i'd send my mom to it.

      and, from what i hear, they're keeping accounts free forever. which means they won't delete all my photos like flickr did. still a bit bitter about that.

  64. *applauds* (n/t) by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

    Let's clean up this s***!

  65. Re:Offtopic: Help with Knoppix by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 0

    Why is it that the parent, who is making fun of an obvious flamebait post, is the one who gets modded flamebait? Is someone trying to say two flames don't make an insight?

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  66. Haha! by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

    Funny stuff :).

  67. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by LogicX · · Score: 1

    I was at wegmans grocery store one time, and I couldn't help but do this very thing.
    I often carry my digicam with me, and there was a girl making a ridiculous scene, trying to take a picture of her friend eating a fruit --
    so I photographed them

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  68. www.moblog.co.uk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this site is more impressive technically; post straight from your mobile.

  69. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by disntrstd · · Score: 0

    My sentiments exactly. Signed, Mr. Goatse

  70. Uh, no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Can't get enough pictures of dogs' noses?

    Actually, it's pictures of tits that I can't get enough of.

  71. dont trust them to an online service by DJCF · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since I got my first digital camera two years ago (which was on my phone) I've taken over 1200 photos (do the math!) for almost the same reason. To me, life is about living (cliched, sorry!). But human memory being what it is, when we forget what we've lived, what proof do we have that we lived it - it would be like we never did these things at all. Even the monotonous day-to-day stuff should be remembered because, as you say, it makes up 95% of our life.

    Photographs and cameras can't change that of course, but they can help - just like keeping a diary, even if it's just a personal log of what you did that day. So if something happens - no matter how small - I always try and snap it so I can remember it later. And of course, sharing it with friends is a good plan - especially if half your friends live a world away (I'm a TCK, grew up abroad), and the other half were there anyway and want to download the images and show them to their friends...

    But don't trust these (very valuable, IMO) fragements of your life to an anonymous web service! In 20 years, flikr could be bust, absorbed by some other company (and their free service discontinued, your photos deleted). I'd bet money they wont be around to show your great-grand-children. Add to that the time it take to upload each and every one of your photos... I don't see the point, to be honest! I run my own Apache webserver on Fedora, a custom rig that also routes traffic for my network. I've even written a PhP script that generates a gallery-listing of all images in a folder, and uses GD to create thumbnails. Comments can be submitted as well, and as the filesystem is the database, adding a new image is as easy as copying it into a directory (or creating a new directory (album) to hold it in!) Anyway, my point is that I trust online services like Xanga (blog), Geocities (Website), Flikr (photo) about as far as I can throw them. And I know that no matter weather I be running Windows Server, FreeBSD, for Fedora in 50 years time, I'd far rather be responsible for me own treasures than someone I've never even met!

    My point is, yes, I completely agree with you, but dont trust some free webservice!

    Daniel
    Somerset, UK
    DJCF.Sytes.Net, DJCF.Sytes.Net/gallery

    1. Re:dont trust them to an online service by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Since I got my first digital camera two years ago (which was on my phone) I've taken over 1200 photos (do the math!) for almost the same reason. To me, life is about living (cliched, sorry!). But human memory being what it is, when we forget what we've lived, what proof do we have that we lived it - it would be like we never did these things at all.

      The proof would probably be the memories. If you forget it, or it didn't effect so the only way you'd realise you did it would be to look at pictures, then you probably weren't doing much worthwhile anyway. To me, life is about living, not recording. You're like one of those people who collects all their piss in jars. Also memories are often tarnished when you photograph them, then the event becomes more of a tourist attraction than anything important.

    2. Re:dont trust them to an online service by VoidWraith · · Score: 1

      Some of us don't have perfect memories. I know I don't, I forget things all the time, while I still remember other rather inconsequencial things.

      Do you have children? If you do, or do in the future, they probably won't remember anything about what they did when they were younger than five. Does this mean its completely unimportant? I don't think so: I found it interesting to see the pictures that had ME in them from things I didn't remember one iota!

      Plus, looking at pictures with people who were there is fun: it brings up memories of the occasion and such.

  72. You know who needs an API? Creative Commons. by cspenn · · Score: 1

    Imagine how much more free content would be available if CreativeCommons.org published an API (with infrastructure to back it up) that allowed mobloggers to immediately release their materials quickly and painlessly into the Creative Commons.

    1. Re:You know who needs an API? Creative Commons. by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1
      You're looking for Ourmedia "an open-source initiative devoted to creating, sharing and storing works of personal media", who have partnered with the Internet Archive to host a Ton of Stuff Like That. Unfortunately, they're Not Officially Launched Yet. (I can send you login information if you request it via email or something, but I'm not supposed to post it anywhere or anything).

      And their launch date has already slipped over half a year... ah well, here's hoping they'll launch Real Soon Now (tm).

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  73. aboveGame.com by randalx · · Score: 1

    For the gamers among you, please check out my new site, aboveGame.

    My site is focused on gamers wishing to record and share their virtual adventures and lives. Instead of photos, members post screenshots and can blog about what their virtual selves are up to. So far we've got some pretty amazing photos, so please feel free to browse the site or better yet participate!

  74. The noun juxtaposition has 2 meanings: by oliverthered · · Score: 1

    Meaning #1: the act of positioning close together (or side by side)
    Synonyms: apposition, collocation

    Meaning #2: a side-by-side position

    but Meaning #1 is a verb not a noun.

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  75. Fotolog is pretty much all about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... pain and humiliation.

    I used to be an avid fotologger - I pretty much quit after I discovered DeviantArt.

    Adam and the gang showed just how stupid they are in August of 2003, just after they limited the comments for non-members. It seems that people started cutting the comments from their pages, and pasting them into the photo descriptions (so as to add room for more people to comment.)

    Adam claimed that this was using up 50% of all of their bandwidth and CPU power (which was supposedly maxed - the site suffered horrible downtime.)

    So - what did they do? Umm.. well nothing.

    Now, if *MY* site was at capacity, and there was a software configuration I could just *switch*, that would *double* my CPU power and bandwidth, and I didn't use it, my boss would have my head.

    These guys are rank amateurs - they have *no* clue how to run a site of this size, and it really shows.

  76. click to download plugin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dont want to click on anyones friggin plugin

  77. no photos on either site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't they post photos on their main page, the links that you provided?

    I would think that a photoing site would do that, as that is the point in the first place isn't it?

    Put some photos in front to draw you in.

    Any reason why they do not?

  78. Flickr's a better deal by metalhed77 · · Score: 1

    Flickr lets you upload 1 gig a month for $45 a year.

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    1. Re:Flickr's a better deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe dollar for gig, but I think the interface is also terrible. At least it is when I try and view my friend's photos.

  79. Photos of every meal... by HEXAN · · Score: 0
    I'd like to post photos of every time I receive oral sex.That way it's a post of every meal I make and a porn site all at the same time.

    Too bad the sig on the site would say "Last updated 01-21-1998"

  80. Re:My new photo blog - DUH! by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1

    I just bought the domain http://www.slashshot.org/ :)

    Should have it set up in about 2 hours. What should I use it for?


    Put up click-through ads like every other 'net opportunist! This could be your break!

  81. Has nothing to do with art, it's about community by rebelcool · · Score: 1

    People post on fotolog for the community there.

    Fotolog was meant (and continues to be) a blog-like community site with the emphasis on photos rather than words. Compared to the other sites like flickr which are more photo album oriented, fotolog still has the simplest, most consistent and easiest interface to use for:

    a. post a daily picture (instead of written blog entry)
    b. write a caption
    c. leave a comment

    Most comments are left by friends, or friends of friends of a user on the website. Just like a blog.

    While flickr and the others all have comment abilities, they're secondary features rather than one of the main.

    When it was launched, fotolog was a pretty unique and interesting place. Then the brazilian invasion kind of shook things up from a technical (lots of downtime from overloaded servers..) and a cultural sense (with most brazilians just posting pictures of themselves for some reason, and the most common language becoming portuguese)

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  82. living to record by DJCF · · Score: 1

    (Ignoring the slight flame in your post there but...) Yes, that's always the worry - that you stop recording to remember, and start living to record. OTOH, though, how many distinct memories do you have from 5 years ago? From last year? From last week? And how many memories from this year will you have in 50 years? One? If that? I'd rather run the risk (and it IS a risk!) of living to record, than the risk of completely forgetting everything!

    memories are often tarnished when you photograph them That's where the photography courses come in! Most of the pictures in my gallery from my friends are absolute crap, I take pride in trying to take good pictures - not just random snaps. Sometimes, a boring or mundane event becomes immortalized this way as it looks better on camera than in real life! Is this what you meant by the event becomming a tourist attraction?

  83. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by EvilStein · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And they didn't turn around and say "Hey you creep, stop taking photos of us!" or something?

    Friend that tried to do a photoblog of college students ran into that a *lot* - girls generally got really upset upon having their photos taken in public places.

  84. fresh food is expensive, time consuming by rebelcool · · Score: 1

    yes, if you buy meat and veggies in bulk, you can save.

    of course, you'll have to freeze them. Nothing kills food taste and quality faster than freezing it.

    Ideally, one would buy their fruits and meats *as they need them*. I try to do this. Its difficult though, with no grocer within walking distance. And its expensive too, especially if you prefer organic (I used to think that was bunk, but it really does taste better...)

    So yes, in most cases these days, fresh good take out is cheaper, faster and healthier than cooking for yourself. And if you live in a large city, the choices are often plentiful.

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    1. Re:fresh food is expensive, time consuming by shufler · · Score: 1

      of course, you'll have to freeze them. Nothing kills food taste and quality faster than freezing it.

      Of course you have to freeze them. I'm not sure I believe your taste observations though. I thaw my meat in the fridge overnight, and may or may not marinade it as well (virgin olive oil and spices, usually). I find that the meat comes out juicy, succulent, and very very tasty. I've generally found that the taste of meat is correlated to the doneness (even when cooking from frozen). I've never had a well done piece of meat (regardless of animal) that wasn't dry and tough. I find rare to medium for most meats is ideal. Now that you can safely cook pork to a degree that's not well done, that pans out nicely as well.

      I myself live in the city, and find that the choices for markets are certainly plentiful. Eating out does have a lot of choice (especially in a city), but prices are consistently more per meal than preparing your own.

  85. Your own photo album by fulldecent · · Score: 1

    Anyone with PHP and MYSQL can make an awesome photo website. With something like Camera Life. You can put all kinds of pictures up there and make it easy to get around.

    Here's an example of a friendly way to put up thousands of pictures and still keeping everything organized: http://camera.phor.net/

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  86. Re:It has transformed photography for many people. by LogicX · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Surprisingly not. I don't even think they noticed me (though I was about 3 feet from them)

    I've found quite the opposite - I go to Penn State University - main campus in State College, PA; and I ALWAYS see people taking photographs or video around campus, and no-one seems to care; they just go about their business. I've even just sat on a bench, and shot photos of people walking by for a long time, and not a single person noticed or cared.

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  87. Multiply! by pez · · Score: 1

    Rather than share your pix with a bazillion people who don't give a crap, the guys at Multiply (disclaimer: of which I am one) figured out that the people who might be interested are the people who are in your social network.

    Picture flickr + friendster + blogger. That's Multpily. A generation ahead of the sites mentioned in this article.

    1. Re:Multiply! by hal9000 · · Score: 1

      Picture flickr + friendster + blogger. That's Multpily.

      No, that's sum.

      A generation ahead of the sites mentioned in this article.

      First impression: it tries to do too much. I don't want all that stuff, I just want an easy way to put my best photos in front of people -- whether I know them or not -- who like looking at photos. If a photo is private, I can opt to keep it private to my social network, but I don't have to.

      Perfection is reached, not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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    2. Re:Multiply! by pez · · Score: 1

      I respectfully disagree with your "tries too much" assertion. Look @ the history of all of these sites... initially they all did one thing, but now LJ offers photos. Friendster offers blogs. etc. etc. etc. They're all converging on one thing which is "social communication" -- something that Multiply has been doing for over a year.

  88. list of photo sharing sites by rakerman · · Score: 1

    I offer up my list of photo sharing sites. In particular Pbase may not get the buzz of Flickr, but it hosts tens of millions of photos.

  89. Oh the negativity! by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 1

    The bitterness of the submitted story--and the majority of the responses--astounds me. Is the average Slashdot reader a 70 year old who hates everything that isn't what he grew up with? This is astounding for what should be a group of people with bright and bold minds.

    All too many Slashdot stories have this kind of annoying angle on them, the "Hey lookit how dumb this new thing is!" angle. How pointless and negative.

  90. Egg with hat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean Free Hat?

  91. Examples of projects using the flickr API by zeman · · Score: 2, Informative
    The flickr api is easy to use, here's a few examples of interesting projects people have come up with...

    A Flickr World Map developed in php and flash by me (Mark Zeman).

    The Flickr Graph which maps the social relationships between people by Marcos Weskamp.

    A very playful Colrpickr that shows images by hue and luminosity by Jim Bumgardner.

    There's more examples at Flickr Services

  92. Let's start a pool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's start a betting pool on when this dude is gonna croak based on what the shit he eats.

  93. I have a better idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think he should take a picture of every dump he takes. Then the blog readers can extrapolate what he had throughout the day.

  94. Good idea by sbszine · · Score: 1

    You could probably build this from the RSS feed without too much trouble.

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  95. Collection of photos found on the net by gfreeman · · Score: 1

    This site posts photos found by Rich Vogel. It's a mundane, yet mildly voyeuristic peek into what other people do with digital cameras.

    "The Found Photos started earlier this year while searching for mp3's using a filesharing program. I was searching through someones shared file list, and saw a folder named 'pictures'. I downloaded the folder and found 20 or so digital camera pictures of this persons life, taking pictures of himself, his friends etc. It made me wonder what else was out there, and after searching for more photos I found hundreds, thousands of them shared to everyone."

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  96. focofijo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't believe you have forget Focofijo.

    http://www.focofijo.com/

  97. P2P and photsharing by lydl · · Score: 1
    Yes, photosharing is at its must ! And thanks to P2P technologies, users can now just share picture, and stop thinking about, web, ftp, domain name, url, etc...

    That's great ! For example, give a try to PixVillage which is really simple and efficient. This is the future of pix sharing.