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Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.1 Cancelled
geekwithsoul writes "mozillaZine is reporting that the Mozilla Thunderbird 1.01 release is cancelled. While they just released 1.01 of Firefox and intended to release an updated Mozilla Suite and 1.01 version of Thunderbird shortly thereafter, they've decided to address some additional issues and release ver. 1.02 of Firefox and Thunderbird 'soon.' The fixes will also be included in the Mozilla Suite 1.7.6 release.
Ah, the joy of awkward numbering conventions!"
Confused...
Are they just trying to keep the version numbers of Firefox and Thunderbird in lockstep?
Ah, the joy of awkward numbering conventions!
I think people will adapt. I never hear anyone complain about Winamp 5.
So, they want the Firefox and Thunderbird versions be in sync, is that so unreasonable?
What's the big news here?
I would rather that they don't release something if they think there are issues or security problems with it. Mainly because people are still adopting these pieces of software. So there will be some people who will only download the latest version and may wait years before upgrading. Its better if they get stuck with what is considered to be the current best version.
The rest of you that are aware and capabile of making upgrades, should do so of course.
I love Thunderbird for its simplicity and think it's a really good job - but I hope they fix a few annoying bugs, like having all my messages being mark 'unread' inexplicably.
You got the title right, the rest you forgot the second dot '1.0.1' not '1.01'
"Ah, the joy of awkward numbering conventions!"
You're telling me! So awkward that apparently the fact that it's 1.0.1 and not 1.01 went completely unnoticed. They are two VERY different numbering conventions.
For example, 1.10 would indicate the 10th release of version 1, whereas 1.1.0 would indicate the magnitude of the changes in the release, not the number of releases.
I'm holding our for Mozilla V 3. 1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510 5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825 3421170679 8214808651 3282306647 0938446095 5058223172 5359408128 4811174502 8410270193 8521105559 6446229489 5493038196 4428810975 6659334461 2847564823 3786783165 2712019091 4564856692 3460348610 4543266482 1339360726 0249141273 7245870066 0631558817 4881520920 9628292540 9171536436 7892590360 0113305305 4882046652 1384146951 9415116094 3305727036 5759591953 0921861173 8193261179 3105118548 0744623799 6274956735 1885752724 8912279381 8301194912 9833673362 4406566430 8602139494 6395224737 1907021798 6094370277 0539217176 2931767523 8467481846 7669405132 0005681271 4526356082 7785771342 7577896091 7363717872 1468440901 2249534301 4654958537 1050792279 6892589235 4201995611 2129021960 8640344181 5981362977 4771309960 5187072113 4999999837 2978049951 0597317328 1609631859
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Release Candidates out now
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http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/00775
Damn, those guys are quick.
No, you're thinking of TeX, whose version number approaches Pi.
Mmmmm... pi.
I understand the bug has been fixed months ago. When will it finally make it into a release?
now the codebase is reasonably stable, i'd rather they be fixing bugs and perfecting the code than rushing it out the door like beancounter run jobs to meet a contract deadline
obviously security patches are different but for general releases, make it right, keep it polished rather than looking like the software equivalent of a RiceBoy racer with a million things bolted on but none of them make it a better car
I thought one of the advantages to decoupling the various Mozilla components would be that they could develop on timeframes that made sense individually.
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good. since allowing the automated agent to upgrade me to ff 1.01, i've been having a crash a day. apparently this is not just happening to me, because the automated bug collector is having trouble connecting home when the crashes occur. i'v since turned the collector agent off.
I think FF is in desperate need of soome tweak'uns... Pop-ups are comming back with a force to be wreckoned with. Some sites (Won't mention what ones ;-) upload worms to my box through java, with nothing but Norton warning my that it was even being loaded. I even compared the sites with IE and FF; and IEs popup-blocker stops all while FF stops some. Alas.. popularity sucks. But it's still safer and more competent than IE. :-)
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"This release goes up to 1.02. That's one more, innit?"
"Why don't they just put the newer improvements and call it 1.01?"
(blank stare) "This release goes up to 1.02."
And they can follow that with Version 6.0.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
(waits for laugh from the math geeks)
A goal is a dream with a deadline
Most of us can live with out Thunderbird 1.01 and :P
wait for 1.02 but they better not delay on
FireFox with the new Gecko 1.8 engine!!@!!#@!
It used to be, Mozilla was one of the more "reputable" open source projects. I'm not trying to flame anyone here, but it sounds like they've had a pretty rough week. Coupled with the announcement to cancel future releases of the Mozilla suite and the announcements abotu IE7, this could tarnish Mozilla's reputation. Obviously, normal projects miss deadlines and drop releases with large flaws all the time. But Open Source being what it is, when it has these kinds of problems they tend to be more high-profile. Hopefully everyone will look past this and continue to recognize that the Mozilla tools beat the pants off of Microsoft's.
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"A truly wise man realizes he knows nothing."
They can avoid this different-version numbering nonsense if they finally just integrate the FireFox Browser, Thunderbird Mail and Sunbird Calendar into one integrated cohesive suite.
That would be flippin' sweet!
WTPOUAWYHTTOTWPA
What's the point of using acronyms when you have to type out the whole phrase anyways?
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that when you read the text in MozillaZine posts that the little blimp appears to actually float as it sits off in the periphery there?
spending way to much time glued to this box!
man, I feel like mold.
why the hell can't the update agent handle these fixes? why do user have to manually upgrade when a new security threat is found? IE beats the hell out of FF when it comes to patching.
If it means I'm getting a better product in the end, I'm game. I still use winamp 5... Besides, from what I've noticed, I prefer Firefox 1.0 anyway, so the numbering system is a moot point anyway for me. (I'm sure there's tons of things I don't notice that are better, which is why I stick with 1.0.1 though)
"Now the trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed." -C.S. Lewis
I'm still waiting for thunderbird to support vcard =/ Maybe one day http://vcard.mozdev.org/ will have some better news than " I had made some good progress long ago, but subsequently lost all the code in an accident, before having checked it in. "
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Having to do a "Run..." and type in a command line to launch Firefox's profile manager is completely unintuitive, and also completely unnecessary. If the profile manager can't be made accessible from within FF, then at the very least the installer should create a shortcut that will launch the profile manager. That would be good enough for me, it's not something I need very much. (I've made my own shortcut, but I really shouldn't have to.)
Another nuisance is having to create and edit user.js by hand. Once again, if it is not desireable to have this functionality within FF itself, there should be a stand-alone utility to do this for you.
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How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
Note that they didn't say the Thunderbird project as a whole has been cancelled, just that the next version will be 1.0.2 instead of 1.0.1.
No one calls me a liar and gets away with it (unless I'm actually lying -- but that isn't the case here).
This is a random site off google that succesfully creates pop-ups in FF 1.0.1 http://www.activewin.com/winxp/tips/index.shtml
And the number of sites is increasing rapidly. Here's a thread oy people that seem to be experiencing the same thig as me. Not FUD my foe, FF is still better than IE, but it's popularity is starting to attract more ad companies to employ new tactics. You just made your way into my foe list... liar... pshh.
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Thanks, Dan Brown, for bringing Fibonacci to the masses.
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Not a single day without some "look ma, I'm smart! Fibonacciiiiiiiii!!" post on
I just read
Windows Installer (MSI) packages will be availible with versions 1.1. These make it possible to do enterprise wide installs.
These are currently availible on the trunk builds if you want to test them out
firefox-1.0+.en-US.win32.installer.msi
nobody should have any trouble getting invites any more. There's a buttload of them on isnoop.net.
... the story title totally misleads people into thinking that Thunderbird itself has been dropped.
Perhaps a better title would be:
"Thunderbird 1.0.1 dropped, 1.0.2 on the way"
or
"Thunderbird postponed to version 1.0.2"
Just a thought...
Homonyms are fun!
You're driving your car, but they're riding their bikes there.
Meanwhile, Duke Nukem Forever plans to number its first release i.
Has an ad script that does popunders with popup blocking in Firefox. Adblock seems to be the only way i can suppress this in Firefox ...
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Odd, someone suggests a product, gives a presentation about it so the PHBs can make a decision and he gets fired, you on the other hand are blindly sticking with others decisions and milking out the "same as it ever was" coasting attitude just to get along and you are still there. I suggest you withdrawl your head and start breathing again. Not every product is good for everyone but bringing ideas to the table to discuss advantages and disadvantages can bring about a positive change, blindly using what you always have is not a good long term plan.
I know, I feed the troll.
Just on the topic of enterprise adoption, we're looking at firefox, but we also want to be able to apply active directory policies to it. We've seen some sample policies based on betas, but they don't seem to work on the release version. Now, I *know* this is possible, but unfortunately we haven't had chance to dive into it. If anyone is using policies to administer/lock down Firefox successfully, I'd be happy to hear about them.
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Windows domains offer end-to-end managed software rollouts through group policies. Linux has absolutely nothing of the sort.
You're making an apples to oranges comparison here. Linux/*nix OS'es don't use the same management techniques as Windows domains. That doesn't mean there's no way to do managed software rollouts. In my experience, it can be far easier and less convoluted with a proper setup. It's hard to beat the ability to store everything on network filesystems. You can do your updates whether workstations are turned on or not. And none of that "rebooting" nonsense. (:
Ok, you seem like a troll, but i will bite...
Excuse me, have you actually used firefox?
Profile manager icons ARE created. Have a REALLY good look in start -> programs -> Mozilla Firefox -> profile manager
Even my sister can spot that.
as for easily editing the user.js
type about:config in the URL bar.. bingo. a GUI for editing the configs, and changes are stored automatically in the USER.JS
Have a nice day!
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You can pick what you install with the Suite you know... browser only if that's what you want!
Which brings me to the question:
What are the (dis?)advantages of running the FF/TB couple as opposed to the Mozilla suite?
And here I thought that NFS-mounted /usr gave me managed roll-outs.
Silly me.
Considering how remote X terminals actually work, and how a centralized server structure has been in use with *nix systems since long before MS "invented" terminal services, managed roll-outs are a non-issue.
For those not paying attention -- you just log in to a remote server on which all your software is installed; there is no software on your "PC" so there's no need to do a roll-out.
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Profile manager icons ARE created. Have a REALLY good look in start -> programs -> Mozilla Firefox -> profile manager
I think the grandparent post is correct. I checked my installation (FF 1.0 on WinXP) there is no profile manager. I always use "firefox -P" for launching profile manager.
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I just want phoenix to give some of my RAM back. currently using 150mb, wtf. and only 11 tabs !
"They've got Fibonacci. FIBONACCIIII! "--what, Fettucine? Damn, I gotta take a break from that math course...
You can hold down the "B" button for continuous firing.
about:config works fine, IF you already have lines for the options in question... or so it seems. It doesn't always save the changes. However, if you need to add a line from scratch, or add whole blocks of lines, you're best off hand-editing. There are plenty of options that don't appear there, such as these two entries from my own user.js // Instead of annoying error dialog messages, display pages:d ", true); // Force frames to be resizablei lity", true);
user_pref("browser.xul.error_pages.enable
user_pref("layout.frames.force_resizab
As for profile manager icons... nope, there aren't any except for the one I made myself. That's why I had to look it up and create one. Would I complain that one is needed if it had been provided? Perhaps one is provided IF you set up multiple profiles at installation, but I didn't -- I just had my main profile locked open, created a new one to go online and see how to fix it, and couldn't find the option to change it back. So I had to go hunt THAT down as well.
So this is no troll -- this is how Firefox behaves on my system. If it works otherwise on yours, bully for you.
Mal-2
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