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Shufflephones 2.0

Photo_Designer writes "After hacking my first pair of headphones to accept an iPod Shuffle, I just couldn't keep my hands off my other set of headphones and hacked an iPod shuffle adapter inside them, too. This version also includes an all-new expansion jack which allows sharing your music on the go, plugging your Shuffle into a stereo with a patch cable (without removing it from the phones), and also allows the headphones to be used as regular phones with the shuffle removed or turned off."

147 comments

  1. How come no-one by odaen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Has got round to putting the buttons on the outside. Surely you don't want to remove your headphones whenever a song you don't feel like comes on. Now do this mod with a Zen Micro and I'm interested.

    1. Re:How come no-one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Why would I put a song I didn't like on my shuffle?

    2. Re:How come no-one by odaen · · Score: 0

      Maybe it auto-filled it with rubbish your sister put on your PC. Or maybe you don't feel in the mood for a certain song. I certainly don't wanna be listening to Beach Boys when its raining.

    3. Re:How come no-one by jonafin · · Score: 1

      i did http://jp.bounceme.net/podphones/podphones.htm

  2. I... by matticus · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't help but laugh at how funny people would look wearing headphones tethered to each other's ears. Is this a new trend? Love will bind us together, and also our headphones?

    1. Re:I... by WebHostingGuy · · Score: 0

      Rob Lowe and Demi Moore did this (tethered headsets) in a movie called About Last Night. They ended up having sex (then again when doesn't Rob not end up having sex). It seemed to work pretty good as a move in the movie (better than yawning and stretching your arm).

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      On another note, it looks like he did a nice job, but from one Shuffle owner to another, the thing I like best about the Shuffle is that it is so small I can stuff it easily into my pocket and move along. Stuffing the Shuffle into huge headsets seems to be at the exact opposite of its advantage. Oh well, to each their own.

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    2. Re:I... by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

      Hardly - when the original walkmans hit it big in the early 80s, this was quite a popular thing to do for awhile.

    3. Re:I... by orangesquid · · Score: 1

      Agreed. If he made a sleek, sexy headpiece where the iPod shuffle was mounted to a small headset, I'd be in love. (I mean, if I liked it, and owned an iPod shuffle, I guess I'd be in love, to the extent that a man can love a machine that does not know the difference between Circle Jerks and Backstreet Boys.)

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    4. Re:I... by Tribbin · · Score: 1

      How about those 'pointy shoes' that even guys wear now! I'd rather been seen with a big audiophile-headphone.

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  3. iPod in the headphones? by EvilCabbage · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apart from bashing me in the side of the head, and making it essentially impossible to interact with the volume or track selection without taking them off, are there other bad points I'm missing in this?

    1. Re:iPod in the headphones? by MP3Chuck · · Score: 5, Funny

      You get the walk down the street, singing along with headphones that don't appear to be plugged into anything!

    2. Re:iPod in the headphones? by reub2000 · · Score: 1

      You don't get the iPod style, that most people buy an ipod for.

    3. Re:iPod in the headphones? by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, on one side you will only hear half of the music, due to the iPod shuffle blocking the speaker.

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    4. Re:iPod in the headphones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    5. Re:iPod in the headphones? by ciroknight · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I just don't get why he didn't cut a small hole in the bottom of the headphone to allow the Shuffle to slide in and out of the big hollow chamber behind the speakercone of the headphone when he had it open.. other than the obvious fact it wouldn't look seemless.

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    6. Re:iPod in the headphones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People keep saying that, but I've yet to meet anybody who has bought an iPod for the "style" of it.

    7. Re:iPod in the headphones? by wed128 · · Score: 0

      Every Sorority Girl Ever. Being a college student, i've noticed the trend. God damn pink minis.

    8. Re:iPod in the headphones? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      probably not a problem. it doesn't look like it blocks the actual speaker.

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    9. Re:iPod in the headphones? by theVP · · Score: 1

      Better yet! If you're skinny enough (like me) you can wrap the headphones around one of your thighs, and then listen to your music via that super-duper "expansion jack"! And the iPod is just as useless there as it is when you have the headphones strapped to your head, because you have to take it off to do anything! Who wouldn't want that??

      You guys are far too critical of this advancement of super-scientificalness.

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    10. Re:iPod in the headphones? by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      At least you'll reduce your chances of getting mugged in the UK.

      http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=83 09

    11. Re:iPod in the headphones? by really? · · Score: 1

      Several of the "street people" near my house have been doing this for years. In fact, some of them are even more advanced, they do it without any headphones.

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    12. Re:iPod in the headphones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean they bought it for what? sound quality?
      Rofl....

  4. It might sell... by two-tail · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A worthwhile retail product. Although I'd prefer one that has the shuffle buttons on the outer case of the headphones. Of course, that means that someone next to you could sneak up behind you and change tracks! (would be nice if the new jack was line-level; better for stereo connections)

    1. Re:It might sell... by comwiz56 · · Score: 1

      Too bad iPods don't have line out connections.

    2. Re:It might sell... by ciroknight · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree wholeheartedly. One of the most annoying parts about having an iPod is the headphone cable. Where I'm usually towing around my iBook, it gets entangled almost every time I take it off/put it on. I'd love to have a pair of headphones with a set of iPod buttons on the side of them, and with a built-in iPod Shuffle dock in the bottom (sorta so it would just slide up and plug into a female USB port inside). Sell 'em for $40-$50 bucks a pop and they'll sell like wildfire. Of course, all you'd have to do to steal one then would be nab someone's headphones.. and an option for a fullsized iPod would be rediculous..

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    3. Re:It might sell... by ciroknight · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Grr, I effing hate that /. doesn't have an edit post button, but...

      What if they built Bluetooth 2 into the iPod? I know it wouldn't be effective for transfering songs because it's so damned slow, but what it would be effective for is WIRELESS BLUETOOTH HEADPHONES. That way there's no need to over-engineer a pair of headphones and you can keep the iPod in your pocket. They could even build a little module that plugs into the "iTrip" port on the current iPods to give them bluetooth. Beats the hell out of carrying around a pair of AM/FM headphones, an iTrip and an iPod.

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    4. Re:It might sell... by glyneth · · Score: 1

      Smartwrap. Has saved my cord from being thrown out with the tangle frustration.

    5. Re:It might sell... by springbox · · Score: 2, Informative

      TDK already made hardware that is more compact than this. It's an audio player (have to convert MP3s or WMAs to a special format) that has 128MB of flash memory.. Anyway, it might not be the ideal solution, but you still can get the same effect of "singing along with headphones that don't appear to be plugged into anything."

    6. Re:It might sell... by ciroknight · · Score: 1

      Sadly, this doesn't help with it getting tangled around my laptop bag though ;)

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  5. Dammit! by CdBee · · Score: 1

    I saw "Apple" and "..phone.." and thought the iPhone had been announced at last, with a silly name...

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    1. Re:Dammit! by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they call them head phones, because they're only for stoners.

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    2. Re:Dammit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The new iPhone Shuffle from Apple - randomly dials numbers from your contact list when you go to make a call.

      Hmm, useful.

    3. Re:Dammit! by suitepotato · · Score: 1

      And as with the mouse, will have half as many buttons as you expect a phone to have. Steve Jobs will call it insanely great. Logitech, et al, will provide a version with twice as many buttons as you expect. It will be met with deafening silence by Apple.

      The very concept that the iPod still has wires all about it is kind of funny though. OTOH, maybe Apple is worried about people sharing iPods with Bluetooth? Somewhat silly thought but not beyond anything else.

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  6. Could Steve Jobs slap you with a large iTrout.. by Fr4ncis · · Score: 0, Troll

    .. this hack is neither stylish nor functional, you can't really be a Mac user.. shame on your iPod!

    1. Re:Could Steve Jobs slap you with a large iTrout.. by Elranzer · · Score: 1

      Well you know, it does have one advantage. You can look like a hairy Princess Leia with this hack.

  7. ishuffle/pod etc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I find the lack of a radio in these products very annoying and one of the reasons i have not bothered to buy one. The Creative Zen 5 gig on the other hand looks like the baby i'll go for. There a link to it;s spec here

    1. Re:ishuffle/pod etc by MadAnthony02 · · Score: 1

      I've never understood why people want a radio in their MP3 player. The whole point of having an MP3 player is to have a ton of music that I like on it - and if I have that, why would I want to listen to whatever the radio station decides I want to listen to, complete with static, FCC-required edits, and commercial breaks?

      Then again, I don't think I've ever used the radio in my car in the 3+ years I've owned it - I think the presets are still set to the classical music station that the dealer set it to..

    2. Re:ishuffle/pod etc by confused.brit · · Score: 1

      well sometimes, you actually want to hear the news/weather/traffic Especially if your travelling on a coach for 5 hrs and need to know if birmingham is at a standstill again --an owner of a 512mb mp3 player with fm radio

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  8. Next Up by LittleGuernica · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thats looks pretty useless...no easy access to controls and the comfort of a plastic stick to your ear blocking the headphones.. Looks like a great time waster though.. Next up, he will mod a Mac mini into his beard, which will then monitor the bacteria accumulation in it and send an email when it's time to take a shower..

    1. Re:Next Up by thatnerdguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      but its an ipod shuffle: the whole point is that you can just press play and leave it. That's what I do. You dont need too much access to controls.

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    2. Re:Next Up by ebingo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      oh and you can do this only because it's an iPod Shuffle?

    3. Re:Next Up by espek · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I'm with you. This is the worst "mod" I've seen in a long time. First you ruin the elegance and compactness of the Shuffle by using those dorky looking headphones. The ipod controls and completely inaccessible. Did I mention this makes you look like a dork? Ok. Just wanted to make sure.

      Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. I really don't see why people are raving about how "clever" this is. It's not! It sucks and it's stupid. Move along people, nothing to see here.

  9. "Groudn down screwdriver" by lisaparratt · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know I'm only a girl, and therefore stereotypically bad with tools, but isn't a ground down screwdriver called an awl?

    1. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by REBloomfield · · Score: 2, Informative

      yes :)

    2. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'll let you use my ground down screwdriver awl night long baby!
      Ow!
      I'll go back to my lonely corner of shame now......

    3. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by Kiffer · · Score: 0

      Man... I'm amazed you did'nt even bother posting AC...

    4. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by The+Slashdot+Guy · · Score: 1

      He's a mac user, cut him some slack.

    5. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at his beard....

      that should explain his inability.

    6. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by antifoidulus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What is the point of having good karma if you can't waste it on something that stupid once in a while? Having the extra bonus ensures a lot more readers than if I were to go AC

    7. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by rathehun · · Score: 0

      Well - what are you doing on /. then?

    8. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1, Funny

      I've never done any time, but I thought it was called a "shiv"

    9. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by jerometremblay · · Score: 2, Funny

      With the added bonus that you can sometimes get it back right away in the same thread. :)

    10. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by khrtt · · Score: 1

      A ground down screwdriver is a ground down screwdriver, even though its called an awl.

    11. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      What is the point of having good karma if you can't waste it on something that stupid once in a while?

      You're meant to use the good karma bonus to allow other people to benefit from your deep insights and informative comments without having to wade through as much dross.

      Yeah, it doesn't work for me either.

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    12. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. An awl is round whereas a ground down screwdriver probably has edges near the tip, the better which to cut and enlarge a hole (similar to a countersink).

    13. Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" by donarb · · Score: 1

      If it is ground down smooth and equally round, yes it is an awl. But for his purposes, it appears to be ground to a four sided pyramid shape. This is known as a reamer.

  10. That's nothing by zecg · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have hacked my girlfriend to accept me hacking all her stuff to accept iPod Shuffle.

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    1. Re:That's nothing by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      If you had followed the instructions and just used a ground down screwdriver, you could have just stabbed her. Much less clean up afterwards.

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    2. Re:That's nothing by jvl001 · · Score: 1

      A /.-er with a girlfriend! Now we know you're just making that part up.

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    3. Re:That's nothing by xgamer04 · · Score: 1

      Her "stuff" accepts iPod Shuffle? O_o

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  11. Hey! by B1ackDragon · · Score: 1, Funny

    No need to demolish perfectly useful equipment for small parts (3.5mm stereo jack) any more my friend...

    Just buy a few from Digi-Key and be set for life!

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  12. Factory production? by TERdON · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interesting solution, but not very neat. Not having the cable for the player seems great. It would be more interesting to see factory-made headphones with included flash mp3 player. That would make a more fancy solution. However, I'm not sure that would really happen - most people who use headphones are rather nittpicky about the quality of them...

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    1. Re:Factory production? by mikey_boy · · Score: 1

      well there's always the oakley thump sunglasses - not so helpful in the dark, but certainly more practical than the hack. Pity about the capacity of course ;-)

    2. Re:Factory production? by reub2000 · · Score: 1

      I think somebody already made one. Not really sure who, but I think it was RCA. Now if they could make something smaller, so it could be easy to hide in a hoodie.

    3. Re:Factory production? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      Actually, I just took a crack at opening my Sony MDR-V6 phones, and there's enough space in the one side to hold the working guts of the shuffle, plus a pair of small batteries. The usb connector would probably have to be swapped for a mini-female type, and the off-shuffle-cont switch replaced with a mini-type on the side. With some minor metal work, a circular hole could be cut in the aluminum shell for the original play button, but the new guts would need some positive retention to provide resistance for the "push". IT definitely could work in this case, and make quite an elegant/simple assembly.

      Or, in the spirit of this "hack" you could just velcro the ipod to the outside of the V6s and shorten the cord so it plugs directly into the ipod.

      I think I'll pass on both, as my shuffle is going to get sold pretty soon. My tunes just aren't organized enough to use iTunes effectively (and they're on a remote server to boot), and the resume function on the shuffle isn't user-friendly enough to rely on for frustration-free audiobook listening.

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  13. Re:Shuffle???? by ch3 · · Score: 1

    Because, if you had RTFA, you would have seen that the guy actually used a iPod Shuffle for his hack (it is also written in the blurb).
    So in this specific case, it is not a generic MP3 player...

  14. They do, but you need a dock by two-tail · · Score: 1

    They may not have a direct line out connection, but a line-out connection can be provided through the Dock interface. The docks distributed with the 3rd-generation iPods (when they first came out) included line out connections.

    Supposedly one could determine which three lines from a dock connection provide the line out signal & run them into a headphone jack.

    1. Re:They do, but you need a dock by clarkcox3 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Supposedly one could determine which three lines from a dock connection provide the line out signal & run them into a headphone jack.
      If you hold the iPod in your hand, screen towards you, pin 1 is the leftmost pin. Pins 2,3 and 4 are ground, right and left respectively.
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  15. These must sound awful... by Serious+Simon · · Score: 1
    In the pictures I see these headphones use the type of cheap speakers as found in small transistor radios, instead of proper headphone drivers.

    It's a funny idea, but don't expect anywhere near decent audio quality.

    1. Re:These must sound awful... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It's a funny idea, but don't expect anywhere near decent audio quality"
      Dude.... It's an IPOD!

  16. ouch by Keruo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I bet his ears hurt after few hours of listening, that ipod stuck between the cushion must feel awful.

    He should use something like this instead

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    1. Re:ouch by OrangeStar · · Score: 1

      RTFA...... "You can't feel the shuffle while wearing the headphones. Weird huh!"

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  17. How bout the blockage of sound? by krunk4ever · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the biggest disappointment of all would be the actual sound quality. these look like decent headphones, but the iPod Shuffle seems to be block almost half of the speakers for one of the ears. this personally will distort the audio and unbalance one of the ears.

    1. Re:How bout the blockage of sound? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhhh...decent? They're $10 pieces of crap!

    2. Re:How bout the blockage of sound? by Synbiosis · · Score: 1

      Uhhh...decent? They're $10 pieces of crap!

      And I bet they sound even worse with have of a shuffle blocking the right channel. An interesting idea in concept, but a horrible idea in practice.

  18. Street cred? by BrK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How exactly do old-ass headphones give you "street cred".

    Not to mention this whole "hack" is so non-Apple. There is no "style" to it, and it's cumbersome. Not to mention that the Shuffle in one of the ear cups probably affects the sound quality a bit.

    I'm also a little tired of the "hack" moniker being thrown around so readily. Soldering a couple of wires together is not a "hack" in most cases, it's just... well... soldering.

    Take the shuffle apart, integrate its electronics into the headphones, and port the controls and I/O to the outside, keeping the same layout so that the headphones have a "hint of shuffle" to them (maybe even paint the headphones a nice eggshell white). THAT would be closer to a hack, IMO.

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    1. Re:Street cred? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Y'know, you're perfectly able to go out and improve upon this, if you have such a problem with it. No need to be so negative and jealous (that's what it sounds like, anyways.. "no fair, he actually did something simple that everyone thought of and now he's getting the credit and fame!").

    2. Re:Street cred? by reaper · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I'm also a little tired of the "hack" moniker being thrown around so readily. Soldering a couple of wires together is not a "hack" in most cases, it's just... well... soldering.

      Dude, this is a hack in the purest sense of the word. Dirty, cheap, and barely viable for the desired outcome, and done with stuff lying around. Back in the long-long ago times, on alt.hack, every post had to have a hack listed, so even though some people listed these elaborate hacks, a lot of them were of the "duct taped this contraption to that one, and you could use it to hold a cup of coffee!" variety.

      No one ever questioned the validity of those hacks.

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    3. Re:Street cred? by BrK · · Score: 0

      I'm familiar with alt.hack as well. But I'd like the think that we have progressed a little. I know there are 1000 bits that can be taped, glued, and/or soldered together to make other interesting bits, but that doesn't mean they are noteworthy.

      We either need a new word that is like hack++ to differentiate the real interesting hacks from the lame ones, or we need a word that would be more like --hack for the entry-level hacks.

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    4. Re:Street cred? by TargetBoy · · Score: 1

      Or we need to ignore whiney elitist bitches and enjoy the neat stuff that people do.

    5. Re:Street cred? by BrK · · Score: 1

      You're right, this is more of a "neat stuff" than a "hack".

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    6. Re:Street cred? by Didion+Sprague · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Saying that this is no "hack" is like going into a muesem, pointing at the all-black canvas, and saying, "Hey, that's not art. I could do that."

      Point is, you *didn't* do it and someone else did.

      What, you paint a bunch of haystacks at sunset and that's art? But some guy's splotch painting *isn't* art?

      Says you.

      *shrug*

      The guy that did this, did it. Whether or not it's a "hack" (according to your definition) is beside the point.

    7. Re:Street cred? by greed · · Score: 1
      We've already got 'kludge' for the entry-level stuff.

      But, as others pointed out, there's nothing beautiful about a traditional hack. Think programming with an axe, if you like.

      Mind you, to do that, you often need to know a lot about how all the pieces you're hitting with that axe all fit together.

      Something elegant is called a 'product'.

    8. Re:Street cred? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention this whole "hack" is so non-Apple. There is no "style" to it, and it's cumbersome

      Not to mention he should have used some Yuppie-I'm-better-than-you brand of overpriced headphones to listen to his highly compressed music on.

    9. Re:Street cred? by BrK · · Score: 1

      You seem to be basing your point on the idea that I'm standing idly by and bitching. All I'm saying is that I think this particular "hack" is a little bit trivial to be called a "hack". As someone else pointed out, it might be better to apply "kludge" to this one.

      FTR, I've done a number of hardware and software "hacks" myself. Had I wanted to accomplish a set of cordless headphones, *I* would have done it by way of an RF transmitter/receiver pair so that the Shuffle is still accessable and controllable. The reason I didn't do it is because the whole resultant product is not really something I have a use for.

      If you're going to post something on the Internet, then you can/should expect that not ALL your feedback is going to be smoke-up-your-ass-sunshine.

      BTW, I don't think an all black canvas is "art" either, but that is an entirely different argument.

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    10. Re:Street cred? by Shotgun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      OK. This isn't a hack worthy of a /. article, and the all black canvas isn't 'art' worthy of being hung in a museum either. Both are aptly described as 'lame'.

      The former soldered a few wires into a set of headphones that most people would be embarassed to wear in public unless they were using a chainsaw to cut down trees. He didn't even have to design an impedance matching circuit.

      The latter is just boring. Something to be expeceted from the lazy kid in a high school class as he tries to throw together a 4-week assignment on the final night.

      I agree. This is a hack. Just a very un-notable one.

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    11. Re:Street cred? by confused.brit · · Score: 1

      sorry to repoint this thread back, but bluetooth is definately the way to go. I spend about 1/2 hr untangling the wires my mp3 player came with. And this is with the now obligitory neckstrap and little peice of string to stop the jack being strained

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  19. Goddammit! by agraupe · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This is a pretty cool hack, but I'm getting more and more pissed about this iPod Shuffle. About a year ago, I bought a Creative MuVo. I figured, hey, it's about a quarter of the price, works easily with linux, and can double as a flash drive. Suddenly, everyone has an iPod or some other non-flash-based player, and I look like an idiot. What the fuck did apple do to have such control over the mp3 player market? I mean, being rather satisfied with my current player, I can't imagine what the shuffle does better, as the only thing I want on mine is ogg support, which the shuffle does not have either. Why does apple, traditionally the company of great expense an zealous fanboys, suddenly have such mass market appeal, compared to its competitors? Why do people act like Apple was the first people to make mp3 players?

    1. Re:Goddammit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because ...

      1) It works well with iTunes and the MuVo doesn't work so well. Last time I tried I rendered a MuVo unusable and had to reformat it with a Windows only program. There wasn't a Mac or Linux program to reformat it.

      2) it's cheaper than the competition

      3) It's got style

      4) It's got marketing

      5) It works with the best online store

      6) It's got a really simple no fuss interface

      7) It's got better software - iTunes

      I've not tried it yet, but iTunes can downshift the bitrate to 128 AAC when it copies MP3 and AAC files to the Shuffle. Since iTunes supports OGG with a quicktime plugin it may also do that for OGG. Maybe others can confirm that. Whilst that's not direct support, it would be enough for most people.

    2. Re:Goddammit! by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If your player works for you, what's to be angry about? Has anyone denied you admittance to a restaurant because your player wasn't an iPod? Been turned down for a job because your earphone wires weren't white?

      From your reference to "zealous fanboys", I might guess that Apple's success is sticking in your craw. I hope I'm wrong about that, because if that's the case, it would indicate that you've got unresolved personal issues.

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    3. Re:Goddammit! by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 4, Informative

      Several points:
      When has cheaper ever meant better? Cheaper, by definition, means cheaper. Do you like looking cheap? Being called cheap? Would you date someone cheap?

      The iPod, as a non flash based player, has one advantages:
      Storage capacity
      Price

      The iPod, as a non Creative part, has two advantages:
      UI
      Software

      And then you ask, "What did Apple do to have such control...?" Some would answer 'marketing', and that's correct. Apple has adverts on TV and in print. The Practice had an episode two years ago where one lawyer said in court, "I would hate to live in a world where we are all plugged into iPods and ignoring each other. A little bit of noise is good sometimes."

      Then you ask what the Shuffle does better: It's cheaper. $89 for 256mb from Creative or $99 for 512mb from Apple. It uses iTunes, which is free if you want to see why it's better than Creative Nomad Exlorer (or whatever they call it now).

      Finally you ask, "Why do people act like Apple was the first people to make mp3 players?"

      The answer is, Apple was the first to make a portable high capacity high usability mp3 player.

      The Apple iPod did four great things when it was released that no one else had ever done:
      Make something the size of a pack of cigarettes that could store more than 256mb; it could store 5gb. The local competitor was the Creative Nomad, which was the size of a 4 CD box and weighed over a pound, and was far from portable.
      It used Firewire. Synching an iPod took less than 10 minutes to upload 5gb of music. The Creative Nomad, using USB, could upload 500mb in 10 minutes.
      It had a phenomenal UI, which could be used one handed. The Nomad, on the other hand, could not. It had a folder based UI display, and even today the Nomad 3 has 11 buttons on it's face to control it's UI. The iPod, still, only has five.
      It had phenomenal software, in iTunes. Not only could you upload 5gb of music, the software allowed you to manage many multiple gbs easily because it handled all the cataloging, database management, playlist generation, ripping, and encoding.

      Imagine how powerful this is, and this is something Creative only gained this year but Apple has had for two or three: A playlist generator.

      I want:
      Not country
      Songs played less than 4 times
      Songs not played in the last week

      That's what Apple offered, in iTunes, that no one else had. iTunes ALSO offered (new at the time, I'm sure everyone has most of these now):
      Streaming shared online libraries. iTunes users can see and play each other's libraries
      Automatic tagging
      Streaming to wireless speakers (Airport Express)
      Automatic ripping
      Automatic synching
      Music search via ID3 tags
      Album art
      CD burning (remember 'Rip, Mix, Burn'?)

      I think the MuVo works with iTunes; give it a shot!

    4. Re:Goddammit! by megabulk3000 · · Score: 1

      Two words:

      white spraypaint.

    5. Re:Goddammit! by l4m3z0r · · Score: 1
      Suddenly, everyone has an iPod or some other non-flash-based player, and I look like an idiot.

      If image is what you are primarily concerned with you have answered your own question: Why does apple, traditionally the company of great expense an zealous fanboys, suddenly have such mass market appeal, compared to its competitors?

      I would like to note however that Apple is not succeeding on image alone. Interface and usability go along way.

      Why do people act like Apple was the first people to make mp3 players?

      Before Apple came out with the ipod mp3 players weren't number one on little kids christmas/birthday lists. Apple made a very good product, they made it not suck(like every other mp3 player out there) and they showed people that devices did not have to be ugly and awkward pieces of junk.

    6. Re:Goddammit! by RapmasterT · · Score: 1
      You listed 7 bullet points that is really only 3 points.

      1, 5, and 7 are the same thing. you listed itunes 3 times as if nobody would notice, and is a dubious opinion not a fact.

      2 is utter bullshit that you could only state as a deliberate falsehood, or to just be unaware that other people than Apple make MP3 players. Apple makes some of the most EXPENSIVE Mp3 players, not cheapest.

      3 and 4 are the same thing.

      and 6 is a repeat of the problem with 2. What the hell is different about the interface on the Ipod than ANY other mp3 player on the market? It's got a stop, play, ff etc button. I'm suprised you didn't accuse the rest of the world of copying apple for using the same set of buttons.

      I personally think Apple makes good products, and I welcome the competition to the portable game because it drives the prices down and quality up for everyone. However, there's really no arguing that apple joined a market 5 years late and capitalized by stealing the ideas that everyone else had been marketing. Extremely minor changes do not make it an innovative product.

  20. Question you should be asking... by Brando_Calrisean · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why does this piss you off?

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  21. geek cred by cvstSD · · Score: 1

    Only a fellow geek could convince himself that street cred was something you could achieve with a soldering iron, a pair of headphones, and an ipod. :-) Listen UP Mother Boards You've been a cold Solder JOINT cover your EARS, try not to HEAR this is one you can't SKIRT I got an iron with your NAME An I'm not talkin 'bout your SHIRT

  22. Sunglasses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could always get a pair glasses that's an mp3 player.

    1. Re:Sunglasses by odaen · · Score: 0

      Who-ever could face wearing headphones/mp3player/shades in public deserves a "Thump".

  23. Do not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do not eat iPod Shuffle

  24. Oops - misread that by lllama · · Score: 1

    I thought we were about to see a new mobile that had no screen and would pick the next person to phone at random.

  25. Weak... by RaZ0r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This mod is WEAK!

    I expected to see some complicated mod that provided controls for the iPod in the headphones.

    This guy simply soldered a headphone jack into his expensive headphones and stuffed his iPod shuffle inside the headphones, which restricts access to the controls.

    WEAK.

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  26. Holy Samolians! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this doesn't make the case that Timothy ought to be the spokesperson for abortion rights, then nothing will!

    Maybe next time he'll post a cool hack of putting a big-ass wing on the back of a 15 year old Honda.

    I remember when Slashdot used to be this site that had News for Nerds and Stuff that mattered. Now it's "Pay for a subscription. Read some crap". Bleh.

  27. Is it me??? by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    Or did anyone else get that familiar "goatse shudder" when you reached the frame that said "preparing to insert the Shuffle"? Just wondering. ;P

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    1. Re:Is it me??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seriously have something wrong...

    2. Re:Is it me??? by eno2001 · · Score: 1

      What is it I have wrong? Was it my estimation of the size of a Shuffle vs. the size of Bob Goatse's... um... "cavity"? ;P

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      -"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
  28. Don't worry too much by khrtt · · Score: 1

    iPod shuffle is a piece of crap, and the people who have it are all idiots. I mean, the darn thing doesn't even let you choose the album to play. One must be a real bumbling bee to buy sumthing like that:-)

  29. One question have I... by Landak · · Score: 1

    Where do you source the headphones from? Finding a decent pair of headphones in this neck of the woods (I.e. Suffolk, the UK) is a task in itself - I very nearly bought a _very_ nice pair of Bayer DT-109's for "only" £139.99. They would outlive me, but.....I don't want to spend £139.99 on a pair of fsckin' headphones!

    Would the next logical progression of this would be to find a random bluetooth headset; wire it into a decent headset; and then have a converter that would plug nicely over the iPod to send out the signal. That _would_ own!

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  30. hackaday.com by sagenumen · · Score: 1

    I have found that people seem content with simply reposting stories that appear on hackaday.com. I understand that that is the essence of slashdot (i.e. finding interesting stories and aggregating them in one relevant place), but almost EVERY story from hackaday makes it to the front page of slashdot.

    Perhaps people can just start checking two sites every day?

    1. Re:hackaday.com by Landak · · Score: 1

      Or, better yet, put another site in their RSS client....much more efficient, less bandwidth wasting (and you can 'accidentally' subscribe to RSS feed of new torrents from empornium at the same time ;-))

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  31. I am not surprised by this.... by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 1


    One thing that I am surprised about, is that not one manufacturer of these devices have come up with the obvious, and made MP3 headphones.

    Insanely stupid of them not to.

    1. Re:I am not surprised by this.... by really? · · Score: 1

      There are several makers selling them. Of hand I can think of TDK, but, I am sure I have seen others as well.

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      "Consistency is contrary to nature, contrary to life. The only completely consistent people are the dead." A. Huxley
    2. Re:I am not surprised by this.... by valdezjuan · · Score: 1


      Oakley has a pair of sunglasses that include an MP3 player. Here is a link for some reviews. The prices are somewhat high (at least to me), here is the link for the two different versions (128/256 $395/$495).

  32. Good idea, one improvement by tentimestwenty · · Score: 1

    Ya, this would be perfect if you could somehow hold the controls in your hand, like a remote control for the headphones. That might be hard to do wirelessly, but with a wire it might just work. Then you could switch tracks easily AND adjust the volume without having to take off your headphones!

  33. A low-end hack... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  34. Look ma! No hands! by Renesis · · Score: 1

    I already do that though with my Bluetooth headphones and my Pocket PC in my pocket.

    When I'm at the gym I leave the Pocket PC in my jacket and just wander around the equipment with my 'phones on.

    1. Re:Look ma! No hands! by bcmm · · Score: 2, Funny

      I already do that, but my headphones really don't have any music...

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      Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
  35. Headphone cables by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

    If you don't mind earbud-type phones such as the ones that come with the iPod, check out boxwave.com - BoxWave primarily focuses on PDA accessories for travelers, and their main products are their mini* series of retracting cables. They sell earbud phones with retracting cables, so that you can have the thing fully retracted in a tiny little package when in your laptop bag.

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    retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
  36. Come on by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 0, Redundant
    Why would I put a song I didn't like on my shuffle?

    You're right, why does the shuffle come with any controls other than "volume" and "play?"

  37. Y Not? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    Why didn't this guy just buy a $2 miniplug "Y" splitter from Radio Shack, and stuff his Shuffle inside those big 'phones? Instead of spending a few hours over a couple of days and sacrificing a little radio he could have stuffed in the other side of the 'phones, with a second $2 "Y" splitter?

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  38. I hacked my Shuffle too . . . by Red_Icculus · · Score: 1

    I hacked my IPod shuffle into my pants. (It's called a pocket)

  39. OMG.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, Get out more!

  40. Bluetooth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Is this a new trend?

    Only until Bluetooth becomes more popular. Then you'll have a hack for your iPod that broadcasts the audio via BT and anyone with a BT headset can listen in.

  41. Add to the cost... by nunchux · · Score: 1

    iPod shuffle: $99 (Besy Buy). MURA SP-503 headphones: $1 (Goodwill) Lice and earmites from ratty old headphones that God-know-who wore before you, priceless.

  42. Head + Speaker Phones? by onetruedabe · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    How come nobody's invented headphones with speakers which face outward?

    Like what you're listening to? Want other people to hear it as well? Push a button and go from "personal" mode to "speakerphone" mode.

    You'd need some sort of baffle, obviously, to protect your ears from amplified music, but it wouldn't have to be *THAT* loud...

    Certainly not as loud as those Gh3tt0 B0yZ in their thud-rumbling six-fours ("Mah music's so loud I gots-ta lean outside mah car just to listens to it!")

  43. I'm not an idiot.. by MadAnthony02 · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what you mean by "doesn't let you choose an album to play". You don't have to put it in shuffle mode. You can set up a playlist in iTunes and forward or back to whatever songs you want.

    I actually also own a 10-gig old school 'pod - but I use the shuffle around the house or when I'm exersizing, where I want something small and sturdy that I can set and forget. It fills a need that I had - for a small portable device for exersizing. Buying a product that does exactly what I need it to do does not make me an idiot.

  44. Back in my day.... by SomeOtherGuy · · Score: 1

    Back in my day A hack was technical accomplishment of upmost geekdom -- that could not be easily reproduced without the possibility of electronic destruction of thousands of dollars and the possibility of bodily injury.

    Nowdays all these apple fanboys can tie a piece of string to some streamlined apple hardware....and it is considered a hack of remarkable accomplishments.

    95% of the "iHacks" would have been laughed off of the internet 3 or 4 years ago when people were really hacking stuff.

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  45. Partial answer: by timothy · · Score: 1

    "Would you date someone cheap?"

    Yes! That would be a positive character trait, unless it was annoyingly, distractingly cheap. Picnics in the park are usually at least as tasty as Fine Dining, the imaginary change is good for paying down a hypothetical mortgage ...

    timothy

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    1. Re:Partial answer: by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 1

      Picnics in the park are not 'cheap'. Taking the time to make potato salad, fruit salad, grilled tuna melts, and fresh lemonade isn't cheap.

      McDonalds in the parking lot, that's cheap.

    2. Re:Partial answer: by timothy · · Score: 1

      Well, that's sorta what I was getting at :) Picnic shows time and interest in those around you rather than paying for a "dining experience." I've had some dining experiences well worth the money, others that were flagrant rip-offs. (Peter Luger's steakhouse, I'm lookin' at YOU!)

      OTOH, even (*even*) McDonalds in the parking lot isn't the worst thing in the world. Ask anyone in countries where survival is a daily question! My main praise for McDonalds is that I like Egg McMuffins, despite all the bad-for-me things in them. When I'm lucky enough to spend a day in the snow, I like having starch, protein and fat duking it out in my digestive system to supply me with life force :)

      And there's an interesting middle ground, which is that there is a lot of inexpensive, definitely low-brow cheap eating that's not so common as to get the contempt that we Americans (that is, pluralizing myself, since I have no idea where you are ... maybe I'm SuperSizing myself!) like to heap on the ubiquitous chains. For instance, today I got a burger from a place called "Happy Burger" (of which I think this is the sole location) -- hand-sized, grilled, served on a biggish bun, a container of oh-wow-that's-good salsa on the side. Wouldn't want to subsist entirely on their menu of burgers and burritos, but am rather happy with it as an occasional lunch. A giant pretzel from a street vendor is tasty, filling, and not so bad on calories. (The salt actually *kills* the calories. Little-known fact.) Most American cities have at least a few Vietnamese places, and the one's I've been in mostly sell lethally large, delicious doses of Pho for hamburger-type prices. The world of cheap food is interesting for its history / cultural ties, sometimes. Other times, it's just ... cheap :)

      This all raises the tangent that I'd like to see a good vegetarian fast-food place; Subway's the closest I can think of. Clearly (from above), I am not a vegetarian, but I'd be happy to see a place that had an all-veggie kitchen, say specializing in wraps, etc.

      timothy

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  46. Shufflephone 3.0 by iNatrix · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apple and Cingular have merged to produce the new Shufflephone. When set on shuffle I found myself reconnecting with old friends I forgot were in my phonebook.

  47. More Moddings by wehe · · Score: 1
  48. this reaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would you want to listen to the headphones if a patchcable is hooked up to a stereo system? Why don't you just hook up the patch cable directly to the ipod shuffle, and listen to this music through the stereo speakers? This is dumb imo, just coasting on this whole ifag apple circlejerk that has been a year old now.