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Adobe Reader 7.0 Coming to Linux

Sometimes_Rational writes "There is now one less thing for Windows and Mac users to point to when claiming desktop usability superiority. While not officially listed in Adobe's download page, you can get Adobe Reader 7.0 for Linux from the company's FTP server according to this article at The Inquirer , which also has a review. The upshot is that Reader 7.0 for Linux is as bloated as its Windows and Mac siblings, but it loads much faster and is more useable than version 5. I imagine that this will get loads of comments about how Reader for Linux headed downhill after version 4. Or was it 3?"

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  1. I'll get it now by jlrowe · · Score: 4, Informative
    Bloat or not, it is still the best reader for Adobe Acrobat files. And I need to do some of those added features like 'fill in forms', password protected forms, etc.

    For instance, my Bank Statements have been coming in password protected files for years now. So I very much welcome this new product.

    1. Re:I'll get it now by El+Cubano · · Score: 5, Informative

      Bloat or not, it is still the best reader for Adobe Acrobat files.

      It's only bloated if you have a problem with sacrificing ~100 MB of hard drive space. Seriously who worries about that on a reasonably modern desktop? I just bought to 160 GB drives the other day for US$ 80 each. Drive space is not a problem.

      I have been using the new version for a week and much more impressed with it than I was with version 5.

      Here are the things I like:

      • Uses GTK. I am not GTK fanboy (I prefer GNUStep), but at least it is better than that awful interface the previous versions had.
      • Mozilla plugin that works just like it does on the popular legacy operating system still floating around out there.
      • It is basically a tar file, no hidden toolbars to install for you.
      • Way snappier than the previous version.
      • No more having to mess with numlock to get pgup/pgdn working.
      • Has preference settings for a MUA a web browser and several other apps you can launch for various functions (e.g., I open a PDF in Firefox and click the email button to see it open a new compose window in Thunderbird with the PDF I am viewing in Firefox already attached. Sweet!)

      Things I don't like:

      • The went to that blasted MDI. I want every flipping document to open in its own window. Is that so hard? Is it too much to ask?
      • The OK button in all the dialogs is squished, quite annoying.
      • You must manually include it in your menu. It should at least hit the majors (GNOME, KDE).
    2. Re:I'll get it now by innosent · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Seriously who worries about that on a reasonably modern desktop?

      Klaus Knopper (Knoppix), or any other Live-CD maintainer, and me (have 50+ Knoppix-based kiosk/office systems to maintain, and like being able to keep the system images under 350MB compressed [current setup is about 320MB compressed, 1.1GB uncompressed, and contains both a kiosk mode and a normal OpenOffice/FireFox/KDE/Evolution mode], plus all of the network and printer drivers from Knoppix). Small but useful components means that a system can be booted from the network and setup with the latest image in 20 minutes. We use Acrobat 4, since it's reasonably current for our uses, loads quickly on older hardware, and keeps the image size down. As I mentioned in another thread, if I can read the splash screen, it's too damn slow.

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    3. Re:I'll get it now by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Informative
      It's only bloated if you have a problem with sacrificing ~100 MB of hard drive space.

      That's not the only issue. Bloated programs use more system memory. Loading a huge program will often knock good chunks of your other running tasks into swap memory, or at the very least flush out part of your cached I/O buffers. This can cause a significant hit to your overall system responsiveness, especially on machines without boatloads of physical RAM.

    4. Re:I'll get it now by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      What is with all this concern about bloat for the Slashdot Community. I think you fail to understand that a commercial for profit company is releasing a free (as in beer) program. So this program are written by programmers who at the time are not directly making them money and when they finish the product they can go onto more money making ventures (such as the next version of acrobat writer) So they got it to run and run at a speed that is usable on modern systems. They are not going to put in twice the time to make the program 25% smaller or 25% faster and management will not approve this either, because it is wasting the companies money, 99% of the users will not care if it is 25% faster or Smaller they will still download and run it because they think want acrobat reader.
      This is just the same for any other commercial application why bother optimizing it and making the program more expensive when you have a good enough version. It is getting to the point that Hardware is cheaper then software is so it is cheaper to buy a computer that is twice as fast then to get the program to run 25% faster.

      This is also true for many Open Source projects to. If a project takes to long to get out to the public as some version of mostly stable. Because the developers are going crazy optimizing the code so it is so fast and small that it will run 50% faster then any other application out there. That the users will wait only so long and go with an other application that is more complete even if it slower and bigger. Also a lot of times optimization gets in the way of added functionality where generic functions are replaced with specialized ones and adding new features can require some large changes. Most of us with Computer Science Degrees are taught that code should be tight and fast. But a lot of this training is from a different era in Computer Science where in the days that Computers were more expensive then programmers, and the computers were very short on resources. Excluding Games, CAD, and Scientific applications. Most computers over the past 8 years have enough power to run these tools at a comfortable speed. Heck my Boss is still running a Pentum 200mhz system with 64MB of ram. Because all he does is run QuickBooks, Checks Email, Word, Excell, and Acrobat Reader 5.

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    5. Re:I'll get it now by alder · · Score: 2, Informative
      Bloated programs use more system memory.
      There is a way to "shrink" Reader's memory usage. There was/is a recepe to make Reader 6 load faster. And though 7.0 is not very slow to start up, the same recepe is still useful to follow as most of plug-ins are not needed for each and every document you read. I found that keeping only EWH32.api, HLS.api, IA32.api, Search.api, and Search5.api in plug_ins gives me all the functionality I ever wanted from the Reader, yet keeps almost 30M of other stuff out of automatic preloading.
    6. Re:I'll get it now by siplus · · Score: 2, Informative
      After installing the RPM i found on their ftp site for fedora core 3, i found TWO instances of adobe acrobat reader in my KDE menu...



      The TAR and RPM are available here: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/e nu/

    7. Re:I'll get it now by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 2, Informative

      Couple things - a) Acrobat is totally modular. Remove what you don't need and use what you do. b) there's actually a whole command line structure for Acrobat (I used to work in support for this product) where you can disable the splash screen (its also a menu option).

      Enjoy!

    8. Re:I'll get it now by innosent · · Score: 2, Informative

      ultra-low budget stuff

      Healthcare Industry. 'nuff said? Mostly older PIIIs picked up in lots of 50-100 on eBay. We put these kiosks in our client's facilities. If we spend $200 on each system (which is about right, counting printer), we MIGHT earn that money back in 2 months, not counting the time it takes to install it. It's volume business, not at all high-profit.

      Also, these are field machines, usually without CD or DVD drives. Having an image that can be downloaded over a DSL or Cable modem quickly makes it easier to do field upgrades or re-image machines.

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  2. Now by NIK282000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Linux users can endure the eternal system lag that is .pdf

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  3. I'd rather use xpdf by PissingInTheWind · · Score: 4, Informative

    I prefer xpdf because it loads much faster, and you can hit the 'r'eload button when you update your document. It's quite useful when you're working with LaTeX.

    The "only" drawback I see is that sometimes when reading certain articles I get some really ugly, pixelated fonts.

    I suppose there might be a fix around for that? Anyone?

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    1. Re:I'd rather use xpdf by mz001b · · Score: 4, Informative
      The "only" drawback I see is that sometimes when reading certain articles I get some really ugly, pixelated fonts.

      when doing dvips using -Ppdf or -Pcmz (if you are using the Computer Modern fonts, to embed outlines in the ps file instead of low resolution bitmaps -- it makes the resulting PDF (from ps2pdf) much better.

    2. Re:I'd rather use xpdf by klevin · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've found that using pdflatex produces more compact pdf files and gets rid of the jaggies. I don't actually write in latex, just use Lyx and it has three options for creating pdf files. One of them being pdflatex.

      On a side note, Lyx has saved me more time than I can count over the last three or four years. I hate having to run a word processor anymore. You end up having to micro-manage all the little details. If want that much fine tuning, I'll use a desktop publishing app. For writing talks and most anything, Lyx's document processing approach seems far superior. I've even got my resume in Lyx. Export it to plain text, pdf or ps and send it on it's way. Only hassel is when a recruiter insists on Word format, then I have to drag out OpenOffice and export it from there.

      Lyx took a bit of getting used to, after years of fiddling every detail in various word processors. Once I figured out the HFill feature and the paragraph layout panels, though, I never looked back. I spend a lot of time writing outlines and it works awesome for that.

    3. Re:I'd rather use xpdf by Stevyn · · Score: 2, Informative

      Are you comparing this to acroread 5 or acroread 7? Because acroread 7 loads nearly instantly. I don't know what they did, but this works a hell of a lot better than any version of acrobat I've used in windows.

  4. Re:xpdf by neXus_umr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Lack of useful features, it has been a while since I used it but I know the most annoying part of it was I couldn't actually select text to copy, it had a highlighting tool, but that didn't do anything useful.

  5. Direct Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re: Direct Link by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Informative


      For Gent00zers, it has ~86 in portage for about a week.

      Haven't tried it.

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  6. Useful combination = Acrobat + OO by Johann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since I work with many people who *still* have not switched to Open Office, I tend to export my OO files into PDF. At least I preserve my formatting much better than if I save as MS Office formats [filtering is better in OO 2.x I'm told].

    PDF is also useful for sending read-only stuff like contracts or proposals - if you're the consultant types.

    Now that Adobe updated Acrobat, maybe some of the more recent PDFs will be more renderable in Linux.

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    1. Re:Useful combination = Acrobat + OO by Brandybuck · · Score: 2, Informative

      On the other hand, OpenOffice saves in OpenOffice format very well!

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    2. Re:Useful combination = Acrobat + OO by jonfelder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why don't you just turn off the browser plugin?

    3. Re:Useful combination = Acrobat + OO by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

      I agree, MSOffice saves OpenOffice files so badly I dont even think its an option. I tried MSOffice for a few weeks, I couldnt beleive the OpenOffice files it wasn't producing, formatting was completly out to lunch, often the file wasnt even existing in OpenOffice.

      I prefer Closed source if avalible and it works, but it doesnt work ...

      I use IE, Windows and Outlook daily, love em. they work, very well. MSOffice doesnt.

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  7. Re:xpdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Faster .. I generally take a shower after I start the adobe reader. When I come back after dinner it has checked all the plugins. Then I go to sleep and by morning it has opened all the pages. It is not slow if you ask me.

  8. Re:xpdf by yanestra · · Score: 4, Informative
    What's wrong with xpdf? I am sure it loads a heck of a lot faster.
    You still can't read each and every PDF document with xpdf, especially DRM protected files are impossible to view...
  9. It's time by mfos.org · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Thank god. I was just about to send them an e-mail, I get encrypted PDFs all the time, and I don't like having to bust out my laptop or VMWare. Glad they finally got with the pogram

    1. Re:It's time by Atzanteol · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thank god. I was just about to send them an e-mail

      Yes, tragedy was definitely averted.

      *grin*

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  10. Desktop superiority? by node+3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Believe me, we most certainly don't point to Acrobat Reader when pointing out "desktop superiority".

    In fact, I'd say it's pretty much the other way around!

    1. Re:Desktop superiority? by peawee03 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Exactly. As an architecture student, I live and die by AutoDesk and Adobe products. I know a few computer literate architects who would love to switch to Linux, but what's the point of going Linux if they still spend all their time on a WinXP box for CAD and presentation layouts?

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  11. Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nice to see that Adobe is putting some effort into Linux and I'm sure the Adobe reader provides things open source readers don't yet support. Namely I think there is currently no OS reader that supports filling out forms.

    That said, for all my needs, the new OS pdf readers are good enough. They used to suck (kpdf and gpdf were a joke and xpdf was simply ugly), but the new kpdf is simply awesome and the same goes for evince.

  12. Good job, Adobe. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I think it's about time Adobe starts offering products on Linux... I don't care if this is a bloated peace of junk... I'm using Mac OS X since last year, and there's no problem reading PDFs or PS files there. But Linux is cool for all my server crap, and with more support coming its way, that's fresh and dope.

    Now if only they'll port Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, InDesign, and all their other stuff... In other words, gimme the finger, I want the whole hand.

  13. Finally! by mfago · · Score: 4, Informative

    Acroread renders better than xpdf, and has much better document navigation features to boot.

    Yes, xpdf is somewhat faster (although acroread7 feels faster to me than crappy old 5.x).

    Good thing everyone can have both!

    Anyone had it crash yet? Acroread 5.0.1 thru 5.0.6 (or so) crashed regularly for me...

  14. Useful for the fringe cases by d-rock · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I mostly use gv or gpdf because they're fast and simple for most PDFs. I have to admit, though, that it's nice to have an updated viewer for when I need to do things like deal with forms or some of the other esoteric functions of PDF.

    Derek

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  15. Reader Extensions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One really cool thing about the 7.0 version of Adobe Readers is that they can be extended with Adobe LiveCycle Reader Extensions to add features that are normally only available when you buy Adobe Acrobat. Of course, Reader Extensions costs something. But what's great is that given the right "pixie dust", Linux is no longer a platform for just viewing PDFs, but it can do PDF Collaboration and forms routing just like its Windows and Macintosh counterparts.

  16. gpdf rules by dcstimm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I use gpdf, it loads all pdfs fine for me, and it intergrates nicely into gnome and mozilla, the only thing it has ever rendered incorrectly was that giant PDF from Mozilla.org when they put the ad in the new york times, the names showed up but the background firefox logo did not show up, So I launched it on my mac and preview opened it with no problems except it took 5 times longer than gpdf, hopefully gpdf fixes that small bug. otherwise its been great

  17. Re:xpdf by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I bought some tickets to a sporting event. XPDF screwed up the barcode on them. Good job I noticed and used Adobe's reader to print them otherwise I (and the three friends I also got tickets for) would have got to the venue and been unable to get through the turnstiles.....

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  18. Re:xpdf by arose · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's a feature...

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  19. Re:xpdf by Compholio · · Score: 4, Informative

    What's wrong with xpdf? I am sure it loads a heck of a lot faster.

    Adobe's reader is more compatible and (at least for me) loads just as fast as xpdf. I was actually surprised it loaded so fast, though it's not compatible with SELinux - you need to change the context on the *.api plugin files and the ADMPlugin.apl file using "chcon -t shlib_t file_to_change_context" before you can run the reader.

  20. works well by darthpenguin · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been using this for several days under slackware, and I must say I'm impressed. It loads quickly enough (though not as fast as xpdf), but it fits right into my desktop as far as widgets go, and the rendering looks great! The printing support also work fine with the KDE system (you just tell it to print to "kprinter"), and so far I haven't experienced the weird orientation issues I sometimes get with landscape-oriented documents printing improperly.

    As far as installation goes, I just used rpm2tgz to convert the downloaded rpm into a slackpack then used installpkg. I had to create a symlink to the executable, which was /usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/bin/acroread.

    My biggest gripe so far is the annoying, but thankfully small, banner add in the top right corner advertising random Adobe services, but it's not *too* intrusive. Here is a screenshot.

    1. Re:works well by X0563511 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's a windows program for the windows reader that lets you turn off all kinds of goodies, (like the plugins that make it slower than xpdf and that annoying advertisement). Now all we need is a linux version of that tool.

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    2. Re:works well by SmilingBoy · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can disable the banner easily:
      Edit->Preferences->Startup
      Uncheck "Show messages and automatically update"
      (This works on Windows, so I guess it is the same on Linux as well)

    3. Re:works well by Spoing · · Score: 2, Informative

      "You can disable the banner easily:
      Edit->Preferences->Startup
      Uncheck "Show messages and automatically update"
      (This works on Windows, so I guess it is the same on Linux as well)"

      That it does...thanks!

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  21. Evince+Poppler - free / usable rendering. by snickell · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or you could use a PDF/PS viewer that's nicely integrated with your desktop, and has a sane feature-set and good usability. On GNOME we've got Evince, and on KDE there's KPDF. Evince (and now KPDF, I believe) is backed by the Freedesktop.org Poppler library (which is in turn backed by Cairo which can use hardware acceleration for faster PDF rendering). Kristian (as referenced earlier today on slashdot re: wobbly windows) is hard at work on adding nice features needed for desktop apps. Poppler is a fork from the Xpdf rendering code (with the maintainer's blessing, since he was using his own rendering infrastructure and didn't want to mix two backends into Xpdf).

    We've been doing a lot of experimenting with making the "core features" of Evince better for on-screen reading, rather than working on the sort of extra packed in features in Acrobat. For example, when you press page down, evince will slightly darken the area on the screen where your page was as it smooth scrolls. That lets your eye track its position much easier, so once the scroll is over you just keep reading without a visual "seek". KPDF is cool too, so either way you swing you've got a good choice.

    Acroread 7.0 is using GTK+ for its widgets, but this hardly makes it have a native "feel". Use it for a minute and its pretty clear its a cross-platform app port.

    1. Re:Evince+Poppler - free / usable rendering. by snickell · · Score: 4, Informative

      For those complaining about the sluggishness of Xpdf at rendering pages, we're working on that. We consider that the largest usability problem with Poppler based viewers right now (Evince & XPDF). We've already made the thumbnailer code on the left substantially faster and are looking at doing things like pre-emptively rendering pages as you scroll toward them so there's no lag (in addition to improving the raw pages/sec rendering speed).

    2. Re:Evince+Poppler - free / usable rendering. by JanneM · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Evince seems very promising (not to mention the whole emerging framework thing that seems to be going around lately).

      The one thing I have not seen any other reader than Acrobat do is form filling. Get that into Poppler (or would it be evince/KPDF?), and you would make a lot of people very, very happy.

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    3. Re:Evince+Poppler - free / usable rendering. by noda132 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, Evince is absolutely fantastic. The fullscreen, find, and thumbnail features set it apart from any other PDF viewer. And its load time is absolutely incomparable to any other PDF viewer. And its interface is simpler. And... and... and.... After an experience with Evince, I can't imagine going back to Acrobat. I can't even imagine going back to xpdf.

    4. Re:Evince+Poppler - free / usable rendering. by sremick · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've tried gpdf and Evince. The problem is, they don't read all PDFs correctly.

      Example: I have one which began life as an OpenOffice document. It contains a large PNG image that has a transparent background. I used OO to export as PDF. In the Adobe Acrobat reader, the document looks fine. In gpdf and Evince, the transparency in the image isn't honored and appears as a black box around the graphic, blocking out part of the surrounding text.

      Not good.

      Other PDF readers might be smaller, faster, and integrated into the UI better... but only Adobe's consistantly displays PDFs correctly for me. I was very happy to see it hit the FreeBSD ports system (ahem... a WEEK ago. Nice to know Slashdot is on the ball)... and have been using it ever since.

  22. kpdf rocks by nileshbansal · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try kpdf 0.4 (one that comes with KDE 3.4)? This is what a pdf viewer should look like. 1. Type ahead search. 2. Easy copy-paste. With acrobat reader it is not possible to select/copy a paragraph in 2 column format document, but with kpdf one can easily do that. 3. Can watch for changes in the viewed file and update the view accordingly. 4. Presentation mode. 5. KDE app. Native look and feel. Can use kio_slaves. 6. No bloat. Open source.

    1. Re:kpdf rocks by ashayh · · Score: 5, Informative

      You cannot fill forms with Kpdf. Thats its only problem.(And possibly encrypted Pdfs)

      Apart from that, I'd like to give kongrats and big thanks to the Kpdf and Kde devs for making a GREAT pdf viewer with KDE 3.4 ! Its got the best combination of features and speed. And a big jump from the earlier version. I think they now collaborate with the xpdf guys. I hope they can find a solution for the forms problem.

      I'd like to remind people that apart from Open Office, ALL apps(that I've tried) in Gnome and KDE, that have the Print command on a menu can create Pdf files.

      Acrobat 7 is somehow slower for me than 5. (Like the WinXP version 7 was slower than 6) Acro 7 takes forever to startup as Adobe insists on loading plugins I would never use. You could remove the plugin files that can be a hassle sometimes.

    2. Re:kpdf rocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Filling forms is on the todo for the next release of kpdf ;)

    3. Re:kpdf rocks by JohnFluxx · · Score: 3, Informative

      Oh btw, kpdf can handle encyption/DRM. There's even a compile time flag to ignore the DRM restrictions :) :) Several distros compile with it set. (This is quite new btw - I think it got in before the kde 3.4 release)

  23. Re:xpdf by El+Cubano · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You still can't read each and every PDF document with xpdf, especially DRM protected files are impossible to view...

    You also can't fill out fillable PDFs with anything except acroread

  24. vs xpdf by aasmodeus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So far I've had problems printing most PDF's to an HP LJ4Si printer, but when I upgraded to 7, those problems went away. Yes, I confirmed that running xpdf or acroread 5 again still showed the same problems (blinking light showing job in printer, stops blinking after several seconds, no typical startup sounds).

    FWIW, YMMV.

  25. you can get acrobat reader 7 to load fast by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 5, Informative

    on windows as well, you just need to go in the installation directory, then in the Plugins subdirectory and remove EVERYTHING BUT these 3 files (just move them somewhere else so you can put them back if you have a problem)

    EWH32.api
    Search5.api
    Search.api

    after I did that and disabled the splash screen Acrobat reader 7 loads up nearly instantaneously on XP. I'm not taking credit for this, I found this tip somewhere I can't quite remember right now and it surely works!

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    1. Re:you can get acrobat reader 7 to load fast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Put them in a directory called "Optional" and the program loads them when they are required. No clue why this isn't default behavior for some of the more obscure plugins.

    2. Re:you can get acrobat reader 7 to load fast by Brandybuck · · Score: 2, Informative

      I spoke too fast. The Slashdot reputation for inaccurate information holds true. The files in Optional are not loaded on demand (at least not in the Linux version).

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    3. Re:you can get acrobat reader 7 to load fast by Navreet · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can easily acheive the same effect using the GUI. I think it's better to do it using the GUI so you don't accidently mess up something behind the scenes. Here's how you can do it: Edit->Preferences->Startup then check "Use only certified plugins" and BAM... acroread loads REALLY quickly

    4. Re:you can get acrobat reader 7 to load fast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You are correct. But a better way is to store all the other plugins inside the Optional folder (make it), because that way if some document explicitly needs some other plugin besides those 3 AR will look inside the 'Optional' folder and load it.

      Much, much faster.
      With 6.0 (Win) I wouldn't even click the pdf links on the web, because it would take quite a while to load AR, but now I can click like 10 pdf links and I hardly even notice Firefox stuttering when loading AR.

      I'm not beeing a fanboy here, but it is clear that Adobe did put alot of effort into Acrobat 6.0, both the Linux/Mac and Windows versions.

      Btw, you got this info (as well as me) from Adobe Reader SpeedUp application (win32 only) which basically does the same thing I described, but it can also do somre (not really *that* useful) more things. For instance it _should_ remove the ad from AR but I can't make it to do so on Windows... It also provides all the info about the plugins and their dependecies but you can also view them from AR - Help - Plugin Info.

    5. Re:you can get acrobat reader 7 to load fast by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 3, Informative

      to remove the ad (top right corner) in windows just go in the options and uncheck the item that says 'check for updates and display messages'

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  26. Re:xpdf by Narchie+Troll · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can select text to copy. Drag over the text and it works exactly like any other X11 application -- middle-click to paste.

  27. Old News, Old News by Ditaki · · Score: 2, Informative

    This has been on the front page of http://www.fedoraforum.org/FedoraForum.org[FedoraF orum.org] for a while now. Kinda late news, as I've been using it for a while now.

  28. "Coming to Linux..." by generationxyu · · Score: 4, Interesting
    No, they mean, "Coming to Linux/x86."

    There's a difference. Even Opera (who I hold in high regard for their cross-platformness) doesn't have the latest versions available for all platforms. I understand not updating the BeOS port, but really... OS/2 is on Opera 5? I have professors who still use OS/2 as their primary desktop OS!

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    1. Re:"Coming to Linux..." by andreyw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Pssssh, so what. I have an IBM PS/2 m50 (286 10Mhz) with PC DOS.... that I use as a monitor stand. Seriously, the It department at your school must have way too much time on their hands if they are willing to support obsolete systems that have been long EOLed.

    2. Re:"Coming to Linux..." by SA+Stevens · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe at his school the IT Department is considered a service organization, rather than an overbearing group who define policy.

  29. Re:xpdf by khrtt · · Score: 5, Funny

    I generally take a shower after I start the adobe reader.

    Man, you need a new computer! I can't even finish a coffee while the thing starts!

  30. Re:Acrobat 4! by innosent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, 3 takes it, remember when the splash screen for startup just flashed up for a split second, not even long enough to read "Adobe"? On your 486? I still don't get the point in adding "features" to a product if it means that 99.9% of the things you do with the product take twice as long.

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  31. Bloat would be okay if... by tomRakewell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I could deal with the bloat if the damn thing is more stable than Acrobat 5. It is one of the only closed-source desktop apps I use regularly in running my business. (The only reason I use it over xpdf or gpdf is because Acrobat allows me to print multiple copies of documents, where gpdf/xpdf do not! Does nobody print multiple copies of PDFs but me?)

    It also happens to be the one app that routinely destroys the desktop. I often have to ssh into the desktop boxes because Acrobat has seized all input and won't let go. My employees frequently abandon virtual desktops because the Acrobat splash screen won't go away and they don't know how to kill it. (Have to show them how to use xkill I guess).

    Acrobat 5 doesn't integrate well with the Linux desktop. It has a rude habit of grabbing keyboard input at unexpected times -- I have trouble switching virtual desktops using certain window managers because Acrobat always receives the F1 key, not the window manager.

    The Acrobat 5 Firefox plugin is nasty -- if you drag your mouse pointer into the main window while the Acrobat plugin is running, it seizes all keyboard input; you can't even type anything into the location bar until you drag the mouse pointer back up to the Firefox menu bar.

    While writing this message I launched Acrobat Reader 5 to remind myself of what the problems were, and within two minutes it locked up and I had to kill the beast by remotely logging in from another computer.

    So if Acrobat 7 solves any of these problems, I'll probably use it gladly, bloat and all. Come on, Adobe! I swear that if you wrote quality Linux desktop apps, people would use them. They might even *pay for them* (ahem, Photoshop... ahem, Illustrator).

    1. Re:Bloat would be okay if... by natrius · · Score: 2, Informative

      The only reason I use it over xpdf or gpdf is because Acrobat allows me to print multiple copies of documents, where gpdf/xpdf do not!

      In that case, you're in luck. If you're using Gnome 2.10, you can use Evince, which uses the current Gnome printing dialog that allows you to print multiple copies. Sorry to beat a dead horse, but Evince really is a lot better than gpdf. If you're using KDE, I'm sure KPDF does the same thing.

  32. Re:But will it be x86_64? by NotoriousQ · · Score: 3, Informative

    AFAIK it is 32 bit, but if you have 32-compat libraries installed, it will just run in 32 bit mode automatically.

    This is unlike flash, since it does not have its own process, it needs that the parent application (firefox) runs in 32-bit mode as well.

    However, if you are really desparate for a 32 bit system, but have a 64 bit system, you should set up a 32-bit chroot. It wastes disk space -- but can be highly useful.

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  33. Adobe Reader for Linux is also accessible! by peterkorn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just returned from the CSUN Conference on Technology and Persons with Disabilities where Pete DeVasto of Adobe was demoing a beta build of Adobe Reader for Linux using the Gnopernicus screen reader. Speech output, Braille output, working navigation of the PDF documents he showed (including forms), all accessible to him on the Sun Opteron box he was using, running the forthcoming edition of Sun's Java Desktop System Release 3 (GNOME 2.6 with GNOME 2.8 accessibility bits). Even as someone very much involved in this work (I'm Sun's Accessibility Architect), it was really cool to see this, and to see the reactions from folks at the conference to what Adobe was showing.

  34. Re:xpdf by drgonzo59 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The better solution is to switch or upgrade professors. I know one professor that would return all the MS Word .doc files back to the sender and ask them to submit in an industry standard format, he never said what those are, we assumed pdf and ps. And it is not because he couldn't view them, he could, he just wanted to "teach us a lesson"

  35. Re:xpdf by El+Cubano · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can't even print multiple copies of a document using xpdf/gpdf.

    I don't know about gpdf (don't use it), but in xpdf, when you hit the print button, in the "Print with command box", just add a '-#' (without quotes) followed by the number of copies you want. It is a standard option to the lpr command and CUPS obeys it as well.

  36. this is the same Adobe that ... by bdbafh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/US_v_Elcomsoft/us_v_skl yarov_faq.html this is the same Adobe that went after Dmitri Sklyarov. what has changed in their org, board of directors, corporate mindset that should convince me to ever forgive them? Yep - I didn't think so. Lets have a little contest as to how large of objects we can shove up the collective rectum of Adobe. -me

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  37. Re:xpdf by nigham · · Score: 3, Informative

    Please... you can't even scroll across pages with the direction keys in xpdf! its a page reader, not a document reader

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  38. Re:xpdf by molnarcs · · Score: 5, Informative
    Have you tried it? Adobe7 loads as fast as xpdf (approximately), but it renders documents a lot faster :) btw I was surprised at the "news", for portupgrade (freebsd) replaced my acrobat5 to 7 a week or so ago. I was thinking the same way you did, but my expectations were based on my experience with 5. When I tried it actually, I replaced kghostview as the default pdf viewer to acrobat in firefox (and elsewhere) - because it is fast, it displays pdf correctly - not that xpdf doesn't, I just like the fact that I don't have to zoom all the time (and wait) because acro fits the image/document to (full)screen automatically. It also has niceties like settings for LCD displays (I own one, so this is a godsend).

    Try it first, compare it with xpdf, and choose what suits your need - just dont' discard it offhand, because it is a Good Thing >)

  39. Re:xpdf by reub2000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd trade in a feature I never use for the speed of kpdf. Acrobat reader is bloated and slow.

  40. After reading a few comments here. . . by episodic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've decided that linux users are in large a hard to please bunch :) . . .

    Seriously though, we should be glad that the acrobat reader has been updated. This is one area that is still fairly essential for a corporate desktop. Corporate types wanna know silly things like why do I use something called xpdf and my colleagues at xyz company have the newest adobe. As a computer person, you can smile at this behavior - however, many of you realize discussions such as this is what continues to marginalize Linux from gaining marketshare.

    Corporate entities should be thanked for releasing software to Linux. They DO NOT PROFIT from it at this point by and large. I'm sure someone can pull up a random example to the contrary. However, by and large there is little profit. Those companies that choose to support linux in whatever fashion probably do so at the behest of some visionary individuals within the corporate ranks that see fit to expend corporate resources on the project - again not because of profit - but because of future potential of one.

    That's right, imho companies are placing small wagers on Linux - and we, the OSS community need to make these wagers pay off eventually by concentrating on increasing our numbers. When that happens - the wagers placed by companies will be larger and larger - and eventually we will get things we've always wanted for Linux.

    Don't beat up or be overly critical of corporate efforts. Please remember if you've got a favorite OSS solution to a product that a corporate entity is trying to offer a solution for, then that is the best of both worlds - not an attack on yours.

  41. Finally! Professional PDF Handling! by wernst · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Anyone who says xpdf, Preview, kpdf, or "whatever"pdf is Good Enough, or better/faster than genuine Adobe Acrobat isn't really dealing with professional-level PDF files.

    I was using Apple's Preview for a while to view contracts, but I never saw certain deadlines - I kept emailing people asking about them, and one day I got the reply that they're where there are supposed to be in the PDF: look again. Whatdayaknow!? Preview didn't display certain form data, AND didn't alert the user that it wasn't displaying it either. Group-based markups frequently get ignored in "alternative" PDF viewers too.

    So sure, if all you're reading in PDF are static data sheets and what are essentially "print files," this really isn't big news, but if you actually use PDF files to work with big companies ino order to earn a living, this is great news!

  42. For Gentooists by Eil · · Score: 3, Informative

    Gentoo users have been able to install Adobe Reader 7.0 for two weeks now. (Though the firefox plugin didn't work properly until a week ago.)
    emerge sync
    echo 'app-text/acroread ~x86' >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
    emerge acroread
    Loads fast, looks okay (GTK), and most importantly CLOSES WITH ONLY ONE MOUSE CLICK.
  43. Been Out for a While.... by schestowitz · · Score: 2, Informative

    On the 17th of the month, somebody in our department posted the following message:

    I've just noticed that Adobe Acrobat Reader 7 is now available from adobe.com as a pre-release tar ball and rpm. I'm sure many people will want to upgrade this.

    So, it's been out for a while, even publicly

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  44. Another great addition by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Im sure we will have plenty of people harp on about how XPDF is faster(which it is) or how the adobe reader is not compact , or how it has more bloat than a whale. The fact still remains that it renders PDFs excelently and it is another product for the linux world .

    OSS is about freedom and our right to choose what we run.
    Every port to linux or BSD or one of the other alternat Operating systems is a major victory for freedom of choise. As much as i respect RMS and his iron stance on GNU everything , i have to disagree and say we also need to allow people to decide how they want there product licensed.

    with Adobe finaly updating the antiquated reader , its just one more sign linux is gaining a stronger foothold in the desktop market, Now i may really dislike windows though i dont want to see it vanish , i want to see all products having an equal(or near enough) market share ,.
    Let us hope we soon see photoshop on linux , the gimp is cool but right now linux really needs a program in that class with a little more omph .

    Its the freedom to decide if you want to run comercial or OSS
    And the freedom to decide if you want to sacrafice a bit of HDD space and RAM space for frankly better PDF rendering(right now atleast , the xpdf team are doing a great job)

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  45. Adobe is just by Polir · · Score: 2, Interesting

    jumping on the bandwagon...If linux would fail on the desktop he would forget Linux, but since Linux desktop is getting to be a viable alternative, they just can't afford to miss it. They sure don't want to lose the future's market so as good capitalists even they sleep with M$ or Apple today they will choose to sleep with Linux if need be... Sorry about the rant but that's my opinion about Adobe's "commitment" to Linux. And I think it is good, there are more choices and I hope that gpdf and open source alternatives will get to the same level and less bloat in the next years.

  46. Re:3D feature... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why would you want to work at Adobe?

    1. I need the money.
    2. They called me in.
    3. I still need the money.

    Otherwise, go figure.

  47. shameless gentoo plug/mod parent up by schmobag · · Score: 2, Informative

    After reading about this in the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter on Monday, I emerged acroread 7, and it works like a charm. It's a definite improvement over version 5.

  48. Re:xpdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think he takes a shower because Adobe Reader makes him feel so dirty. xpdf is much cleaner - hense, no shower.

  49. acroread 7 scrolls fine by slashbart · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just installed it, and it works fine. Scrolling with the weel also, same in fileselection boxes.

    Bart

  50. Re:xpdf by ssbljk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just tried 7.0 and it works a way faster than 5.0.
    I didn't like 5.0 because it used to crash during search process.

    7.0 seems to be much more stable too.

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  51. Re:xpdf by Arker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please reconsider. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. And that 'CS' department is obviously simply an IT department, not a real CS department. They aren't going to teach you anything you want to know.

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  52. Re:xpdf by Erik+Hensema · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Acrobat Reader 7 is required to do your taxes in the Netherlands (for buisinesses, private persons can still use paper). So now at least we can do our taxes on Linux. I welcom Acrobat 7!

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  53. Spyware-Like Goodies by Phoinix · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now all the Linux users can enjoy the annoying aspects of up to date Adobe products.

  54. This is not the final by Sidn · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's a pre-release version that's not yet intended for the public, though it's not marked as beta or pre-release. According to http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/57616 (german) it's been put online for a customer in the netherlands. The final version can be expected around mid 2005. The acrobat files mentioned on heise.de and this /. article are the same, so i guess the real final will still take some time.

  55. It's a good thing. by breakbeatninja · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The more support the better, especially from mainstream vendors like Adobe. Of course, I would really like to see Photoshop, Illustrator and others come to Linux (and therefore, *BSD through Linux emulation at the least). Adobe gains customers, the open source community gets more applications and more people can migrate away from Windows without excuses. Sure there's GIMP, but some people don't want to learn an entirely new application if they don't have to.

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  56. flpsed by Kludge · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can fill out pdfs with flpsed. flpsed allows you add text to pdfs.

    On another note xpdf is many times faster for small pdfs than acroread. However, if you zoom in on a big pdf (like a map) w/ xpdf it renders the whole thing to X as an image. If that image is bigger than your memory (regardless of the screen size), X swaps out and your machine is reduced to a crawl. Acroread, on the other hand, doesn't do that. It just renders the part of the screen that is visible, which is slower than keeping your image in memory, but much faster than reading swapped contents from disk.

    And what's the problem w/ all of you? I just downloaded Reader 7 at 200kKB/s from adobe. Where's the slashdot effect?

  57. Re:xpdf by scarolan · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have to agree here - our sales department all uses Fedora Core 3 via thin client terminals, and we tried acroread, xpdf, and ggv for PDF files. Our users need to be able to open, print, and email PDF files everyday. Not all of these PDF files are formatted ideally, eg, the person who created the PDF just scanned the whole image in as an image, and not text, hence you get these 3-5 mb files.

    XPDF - works reasonably fast for small PDF files, but was choking several times a day. At best it would only clog up the print queues, at worst it would eat up ALL my cpu cycles and bring the server to a crawl.

    GGV - hardly worth mentioning. Opened less files than XPDF.

    acroread - ugly GUI, but only crashes or stops print queue once a day. WAY better performance than either xpdf or ggv.

    I for one welcome our new PDF-reading overlords. Can't wait to install 7.0, hopefully will give better performance than the old version.

  58. Re:xpdf by SlamMan · · Score: 2, Informative

    The reader extensions? They work great, used em for the past 3 years.

    We looked into including that feature in forms we use in house, but the cost is insane. Something around 10 per form.

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  59. x86 only by Chris+L.+Mason · · Score: 2, Interesting

    People keep forgetting that Linux is not x86-only. It runs on lots of other platforms (probably ppc/ppc64 is the second most popular.)

    So this isn't going to help me (nor will it help Linus!)

  60. Bloat? by kosmosik · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually it is quite fast. Compared to f.e.:

    xpdf - acroread is much faster (rendering) and xpdf is ugly as hell and almost not usable (try printing something with this ancient shit)...

    ggv/kpdf and other ghostscript based - they are fine for postscript but fail much to more times on PDF files, they simply do not open all PDF files that disqualifies them for me...

    acroread 5 - version 7 is faster and more usable...

    So actually Acrobat Reader 7.0 for Linux is the best choice, and as for bloat (in size) I installed it via tarball, deleted loads of shit - all plugins - I don't need them. I just need acroread to display and print PDF files, nothing more. Also I deleted some help/sample files. Compressed acroread binary with upx and what I get is:

    % du -hs /opt/acrobat7
    36M /opt/acrobat7

    Not so bad at all... Given that acroread loads almost instantly on my machine (and my machine is not a rocket certainly), renders fast and Just-Works.

    Very good job Adobe...

    But it has some bug. I hope they will iron them out (yes I've submitted them to their beta program bug tracking database).

  61. Ability to edit a PDF? by haluness · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I mainly work on Linux and prepare documents with LaTeX. However a very useful feature would be to edit a PDF (and not by opening the PDF in Vim!).

    This would be a great help when collaborating with others who don't use LaTeX. Even the ability to simply add annotations to a certain peice of text would be extremely useful.

    Does anybody know of anything that can do this under Linux?

  62. Good product by drigz · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's been in portage testing for some time, and I definitely will keep using it. Not only do you have the peace of mind that it will render your PDF correctly, but the GTK2 GUI looks far better than xpdf or acroread5, and the loading times aren't too bad at all. I haven't even had to remove the useless plugins.

    One qualm - I had to delete one plugin file to stop an error message coming up on start (It was invalid or something).

  63. Re:Please shut up by MynockGuano · · Score: 2, Informative

    I submitted this last week, with a funnier headline!

    Actually, they did have it on their official download page for about a day, and I just happened to be checking. When I went to show a friend, however, I found it was no longer there, and the download pointed you to the version 5. Luckily, I was able to find the URL in my download history, and found that they didn't actually remove the file from the server -- only the link.

    The program is actually quite smooth, and is very well-integrated. They seem to have done a great deal of work on the interface, and I'd be surprised if this didn't forshadow some future Adobe interest in Linux. It seems like an excessive amount of effort for one freely-available program -- accessibility features, a very good help system, etc. I was especially impressed by the implementation of the "Find" feature.

    The rendering is spotless, clean, and fast, and Adobe's "CoolType" font rendering libraries are also provided. I've not found a .pdf that it did not render correctly, but it unfortunately will not render pure postscript.

    All in all, though, I must admit that I was quite impressed. I hope to see more Adobe interest in Linux in the future -- it would be a very nice seal of approval for the system as a whole to finally see, say, Photoshop, Illustrator, After Effects, or Premiere natively for Linux.

    Very cool!

    P.S. If it's still the same version I downloaded, you can rid yourself of that annoying flashing advertisement bar thingy by dragging all the toolbar buttons down to a new toolbar...when you move the last one down, it removes the now-empty (except for the flashy Adobe ad thingy) original bar and you're left with an identical bar where you moved the button, without the annoying advertisement, helpfully moved back to its "original" position when the default one is removed. Lock 'em there, and you're good to go, even after closing and re-opening the program!

  64. We'll see a QT based Photoshop soon?!? by vhogemann · · Score: 2, Interesting

    See,

    QT is a great multi-plataform toolkit... it can render beautifully under Windows or MacOSX, witch are the main target plattaforms for Adobe.

    It would make a lot of sense to Adobe port their core applications to a toolkit that can compile on all their target plattaforms, plus Linux!

    Hey, its happening!! We already have Acrobat Reader and PhotoShop Album made using QT.

    Plus, if Adobe could be untied from both Windows and MacOSX, their products would become a LOT more acessible... A dedicated Linux box running Photoshop + Illustrator would be a great solution for a lot of graphic houses out there!

    Now, if the XOrg guys could fix the XImput system, so my Wacom tablet would get configured automagicaly via hotplug without having to manualy edit the config files... wow, that would be perfect!!

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  65. Why!? by borud · · Score: 3, Insightful
    why is it that any, even moderately, popular piece of software gets bloated so badly it eventually becomes unusable? just look at what happened to browsers, just look at winamp, just look at the toolbars and media players.

    Acrobat Reader has steadily become more and more obese to the point where xpdf is now my default PDF viewer. I'm no big fan of xpdf, but it beats waiting around for Acrobat Reader to load code I will never need.

    but why!? can someone from Adobe please tell me why we need this?

  66. Re:xpdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Trim back your plugins. For the most part you only need the following:
    EWH32.api, printme.api, Search.api

    Make a backup of the plugin directory (folder, whatever)
    X:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Reader\plug_ins
    And then delete all exept the three mentioned above from the original plugin dir (folder, whatever)

    Should load MUCH faster.

  67. A Fully Functional Acrobat Suite is Necessary by SA+Stevens · · Score: 3, Interesting

    People who have never used the actual Adobe Acrobat product likely will not understand.

    There are a number of decent and reliable methods to output to a 'PDF-format'. There is only one tool, the Adobe Acrobat Suite, to annotate and augment your PDF files.

    I like to produce tables-of-content, to be able to use an easy graphical method to arrange pages, crop them, etc. I am afforded this ability by the commercal Adobe Acrobat product (which is rather expensive per-seat)

    Adobe should get beyond their 'touch it gingerly' approach to Linux. Release some of your actual tools for Linux, not just a half-baked 'Reader' to look at their output.

  68. Re:xpdf by kernelfoobar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I do this, too. Then you just use ps2pdf and, viola, you've got a filled out pdf!

    Thanks for the tip, but for god's sake, if you're gonna use french words at least get them right, it's: VOILA.
    viola means raped.

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  69. Bloated, yes, however... by azpenguin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Adobe is more concerned with Acrobat Reader working correctly than they are with bloat. Acrobat has become THE file standard in the printing industry. (We used to receive Quark or Illustrator files, along with a bunch of photos, text files, and fonts - now all we need is a properly distilled .pdf.) And believe me, there are plenty of people out there who are very picky about the tiniest matters in their printed pieces. Since customers are often getting their proofs over email or the web in the form of .pdf, it's critical that these files display exactly right. You can lose tens of thousands of dollars if your press outputs something even slightly different than what the customer signs off on proof out.
    And the programs that graphic designers are using now are far more complex, giving the designers more to work with and letting them work faster. Of particular interest are layers and transparency - something even Quark has begun to see the light on. These graphic files have to work as designed when they're dropped into Acrobat Distiller, or you're going to have the same problem - customer's proof is different from the printed piece.
    I would imagine that Adobe develops Acrobat Reader and Acrobat side by side, so it's not a matter of separate development teams and of not worrying about the program they don't make money on. Adobe has far too much at stake to put out poor versions of the free Reader.

  70. No CUPS support. :( by heathm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't get me wrong. I'm very excited about Adobe Reader 7.0 on Linux. I love that it uses GTK, starts quickly and looks really good. Unfortunately, however, the printing still sucks as it doesn't support cups. I can't go and select the printer I want to use from a drop down. I personally can manage without this but I know a number of non-technical people that hate not having this.

  71. GTKLP is the answer... by wernst · · Score: 3, Informative
    The answer for programs like this is GTKLP. Just install it via whatever installer system you have (Synaptic Package Manager or whatever).

    Then in the Print dialog box, change the "print command" from "lp" to "gtklp." Bingo! A friendly, usable, and full-featured Print dialog box that does everything you'd ever want in CUPS.

    It works for Opera too...