Hi, I'm almost a 40 year old internet cumgrudgeon. I've been on the net so long, I still type gopher:// and telnet by mistake sometimes, and I knew how to use finger in a way that didn't offend.
I had high hopes for the internet when it came out.
But this right here wants me to sever my wifi connection and read a physical book. Ya hear me?
You guys are arguing weather or not water hydrates you. Really 500 + posts about this? The internet is letting me down. Sigh.
I've decided that linux users are in large a hard to please bunch:) . . .
Seriously though, we should be glad that the acrobat reader has been updated. This is one area that is still fairly essential for a corporate desktop. Corporate types wanna know silly things like why do I use something called xpdf and my colleagues at xyz company have the newest adobe. As a computer person, you can smile at this behavior - however, many of you realize discussions such as this is what continues to marginalize Linux from gaining marketshare.
Corporate entities should be thanked for releasing software to Linux. They DO NOT PROFIT from it at this point by and large. I'm sure someone can pull up a random example to the contrary. However, by and large there is little profit. Those companies that choose to support linux in whatever fashion probably do so at the behest of some visionary individuals within the corporate ranks that see fit to expend corporate resources on the project - again not because of profit - but because of future potential of one.
That's right, imho companies are placing small wagers on Linux - and we, the OSS community need to make these wagers pay off eventually by concentrating on increasing our numbers. When that happens - the wagers placed by companies will be larger and larger - and eventually we will get things we've always wanted for Linux.
Don't beat up or be overly critical of corporate efforts. Please remember if you've got a favorite OSS solution to a product that a corporate entity is trying to offer a solution for, then that is the best of both worlds - not an attack on yours.
I mean you can't argue that scrabble is a trademark of Hasbro. You can't argue that it is abandonware (last time I checked scrabble is still sold in stores).
It is clear that Hasbro has every right to ask him to cease and desist - and should not have to pay him a thing, it is THEIR product unequivocally.
What amazes me is that google constantly comes out with USEFUL and credible apps.
Google Search = has long been the standard
Google Groups = complete usenet archive
Google Mail = arguably the best free email service now.
Google Local = returns excellent results even for my small town!
Google Maps = it is all I use to plan a trip now
Google Search = it is all I use to search my 1/2 terrabyte of storage.
Picasa = one heck of an image manipulation/retrieval program.
I for one welcome an innovative company that provides me with excellent apps. If they wanna design an OS - I'm yelling to GO FOR IT!
It will take someone with google's clout to do this.
Don't beat up on Ahead. . .
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1st - this isn't about the article submitted to Slashdot. This is more a response to individual comments that I've seen posted here so far and across the internet:
As I've used open source products, I keep seeing the same old arguments. One of those arguments is that we need commercial developers for Linux.
Lo and behold when a commercial developer ante's up and makes product for Linux - they are beat up for their decision.
Suddenly we hear about the commercial software:
1. That's fine but it isn't open sourced.
2. Bahhh we have an opensource equivalent already.
3. It doesn't work on my weird (read low marketshare) version of Linux.
I'm sure there are other reasons, but it is early.
Why can't we be positive? Why can't we embrace Ahead for their efforts and simply say - Good Job on your (read) 1st version? I'm sure if they didn't get bad press and beat up over their decision, there might be 'future' versions.
Also, for all you 'we need to convert the windows world' - having NERO available is like a warm familiar blanket to many windows users.
Don't worry ppl - other developers read slashdot - and they are probably thinking - why even bother to develop for the platform when they are likely to get negative press for their effort.
Remember, it's not about comparison to existing free as beer linux apps - this is a commercial prodcut that will live or die on it's own merits.
Soon we will have benchmark woodwinds, benchmark flutes, and worst of all benchmark trumpets.
Off course it will come together as all that benchmark jazz. . .
What is the point?
What is the point of art?
What is the point of music?
What is the point of climbing everest?
What is the point of spinners?
I digress. . .
The point is well - hey it is cool! ( I think):)
This is great! Now due to me getting fired for gaming all the time, I can still game in the efficiency apartment that I can barely afford while working part time at my local fast food joint!
Kudos to going smaller and smaller as my income falls!
Sheesh, you know that a disaster can be localized right? If they need to communicate across an area that is untouched by the disaster (ie everything is still running) to an area that has been decimated (ie nothing is running) - you are still going to have trouble.
When there is a disaster, and they need to use ham radios, I hope they enjoy the interference.
Sad that they are not remembering that lo tech sometimes is needed - and this interferes with lo tech radio wave transmissions.
If persons are going to take GPL'd software and claim it as their own, then the work of many talented programmers can be passed off like cheap tracings of the Sunday comics.
Pull together. Agree on this - blatent copying for no reason can't be allowed.
Lest when those that take GPL'd software use it and fark it up, the first thing reported is that the software had an 'open source' base, further alienating the mainstream computer users.
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Hi, I'm almost a 40 year old internet cumgrudgeon. I've been on the net so long, I still type gopher:// and telnet by mistake sometimes, and I knew how to use finger in a way that didn't offend. I had high hopes for the internet when it came out. But this right here wants me to sever my wifi connection and read a physical book. Ya hear me? You guys are arguing weather or not water hydrates you. Really 500 + posts about this? The internet is letting me down. Sigh.
I've decided that linux users are in large a hard to please bunch :) . . .
Seriously though, we should be glad that the acrobat reader has been updated. This is one area that is still fairly essential for a corporate desktop. Corporate types wanna know silly things like why do I use something called xpdf and my colleagues at xyz company have the newest adobe. As a computer person, you can smile at this behavior - however, many of you realize discussions such as this is what continues to marginalize Linux from gaining marketshare.
Corporate entities should be thanked for releasing software to Linux. They DO NOT PROFIT from it at this point by and large. I'm sure someone can pull up a random example to the contrary. However, by and large there is little profit. Those companies that choose to support linux in whatever fashion probably do so at the behest of some visionary individuals within the corporate ranks that see fit to expend corporate resources on the project - again not because of profit - but because of future potential of one.
That's right, imho companies are placing small wagers on Linux - and we, the OSS community need to make these wagers pay off eventually by concentrating on increasing our numbers. When that happens - the wagers placed by companies will be larger and larger - and eventually we will get things we've always wanted for Linux.
Don't beat up or be overly critical of corporate efforts. Please remember if you've got a favorite OSS solution to a product that a corporate entity is trying to offer a solution for, then that is the best of both worlds - not an attack on yours.
I mean you can't argue that scrabble is a trademark of Hasbro. You can't argue that it is abandonware (last time I checked scrabble is still sold in stores).
It is clear that Hasbro has every right to ask him to cease and desist - and should not have to pay him a thing, it is THEIR product unequivocally.
Isn't there enough math classes already? :P
Now all the teenage girls/guys can get this robot to drive their car.
Since they are on the phone anyhow, they can just talk and control the car driving blue tooth robot at the same time!
If they can just give this robot the brain power of a cockroach, I'll feel safer on the road!
What amazes me is that google constantly comes out with USEFUL and credible apps.
Google Search = has long been the standard
Google Groups = complete usenet archive
Google Mail = arguably the best free email service now.
Google Local = returns excellent results even for my small town!
Google Maps = it is all I use to plan a trip now
Google Search = it is all I use to search my 1/2 terrabyte of storage.
Picasa = one heck of an image manipulation/retrieval program.
I for one welcome an innovative company that provides me with excellent apps. If they wanna design an OS - I'm yelling to GO FOR IT!
It will take someone with google's clout to do this.
1st - this isn't about the article submitted to Slashdot. This is more a response to individual comments that I've seen posted here so far and across the internet: As I've used open source products, I keep seeing the same old arguments. One of those arguments is that we need commercial developers for Linux. Lo and behold when a commercial developer ante's up and makes product for Linux - they are beat up for their decision. Suddenly we hear about the commercial software: 1. That's fine but it isn't open sourced. 2. Bahhh we have an opensource equivalent already. 3. It doesn't work on my weird (read low marketshare) version of Linux. I'm sure there are other reasons, but it is early. Why can't we be positive? Why can't we embrace Ahead for their efforts and simply say - Good Job on your (read) 1st version? I'm sure if they didn't get bad press and beat up over their decision, there might be 'future' versions. Also, for all you 'we need to convert the windows world' - having NERO available is like a warm familiar blanket to many windows users. Don't worry ppl - other developers read slashdot - and they are probably thinking - why even bother to develop for the platform when they are likely to get negative press for their effort. Remember, it's not about comparison to existing free as beer linux apps - this is a commercial prodcut that will live or die on it's own merits.
Soon we will have benchmark woodwinds, benchmark flutes, and worst of all benchmark trumpets. Off course it will come together as all that benchmark jazz. . .
What is the point? What is the point of art? What is the point of music? What is the point of climbing everest? What is the point of spinners? I digress. . . The point is well - hey it is cool! ( I think) :)
Knoppix continues to be all that and a bag of chips :)
Now slashdot will render in a tenth of a second rather than an eighth of a second like it does now! It is indeed a great day.
This is great! Now due to me getting fired for gaming all the time, I can still game in the efficiency apartment that I can barely afford while working part time at my local fast food joint! Kudos to going smaller and smaller as my income falls!
Sheesh, you know that a disaster can be localized right? If they need to communicate across an area that is untouched by the disaster (ie everything is still running) to an area that has been decimated (ie nothing is running) - you are still going to have trouble.
When there is a disaster, and they need to use ham radios, I hope they enjoy the interference. Sad that they are not remembering that lo tech sometimes is needed - and this interferes with lo tech radio wave transmissions.
If persons are going to take GPL'd software and claim it as their own, then the work of many talented programmers can be passed off like cheap tracings of the Sunday comics. Pull together. Agree on this - blatent copying for no reason can't be allowed. Lest when those that take GPL'd software use it and fark it up, the first thing reported is that the software had an 'open source' base, further alienating the mainstream computer users.
Can't beat alternative browsers for main stream problems.