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Return of the Mac

Ben Gutierrez writes "Paul Graham has posted a new essay on the Return of the Mac which begins with: 'All the best hackers I know are gradually switching to Macs.' Tim O'Reilly said some similar things in Watching Alpha Geeks . From the article: "My friend Robert said his whole research group at MIT recently bought themselves Powerbooks. These guys are not the graphic designers and grandmas who were buying Macs at Apple's low point in the mid 1990s. They're about as hardcore OS hackers as you can get."

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  1. Captain Obvious Strikes Again by stlhawkeye · · Score: 4, Funny

    In other news, open source fanatics dislike Microsoft.

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  2. Funny... by neonstz · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...as this is the first time I read slashdot on my new Mac Mini.

  3. Of course. by Patrick+Mannion · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's UNIX-based! What hacker doesn't want something that uses UNIX. Besides... Linux is sooooooo 90s.

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  4. All the hackers egh ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny


    well that accounts for 0.0000001% of the worlds population, whooo revolution, in your face Amiga !!!

  5. Let the flame war commence! by goldspider · · Score: 5, Funny

    Self-righteous Apple fanboys in one corner.

    Foaming-at-the-mouth Linux zealots in another.

    This could get ugly, folks. I'm sure the *BSD crowd would chime in too, except that a judge recently orderd the feeding tube to be removed.

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    1. Re:Let the flame war commence! by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Funny

      Im confused , im sitting with a mac running OS X on my left , an old IMac running
      FreeBSD compiling a kernel to my right And behind me I have an x86 laptop running a Dist-upgrade to an install of Debian (unstable)... Its sitting on my sparc server running solaris 8 ...
      So what corner do I go to
      Ive been running around in circles for half and hour now!!

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    2. Re:Let the flame war commence! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Self-righteous Apple fanboys in one corner."

      "Foaming-at-the-mouth Linux zealots in another."

      ...and in the audience...Windows users!

    3. Re:Let the flame war commence! by aasania · · Score: 3, Funny

      >Self-righteous Apple fanboys in one corner.

      >Foaming-at-the-mouth Linux zealots in another.

      Windows users hiding in the closet...

  6. Expose by Ghetto_D · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sure we'll see a sharp decline in the number of ingenious hacks out there as these developers spend their days holding shift and watching expose in slow motion.

  7. No need to buy a mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Get a girlfriend. Girls like Macs. Borrow girlfriends computer when you need to test your code on a Mac.

    Oh that's why "all the best hackers" are buying Macs. They've finally resigned themselves to never having a girlfriend.

    Boring article really...

  8. Oblig... by KyleJacobson · · Score: 1, Funny

    I welcome our Mac overlords...

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    1. Re:Oblig... by mbrewthx · · Score: 2, Funny

      Should be

      I for one welcome the prophet Steve Jobs Mac Overlord, For he calleth out in dessert "a computer for everyone and good music, but it'll cost you"

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  9. Re:unix laptop = key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    she gets what she needs.

    From me, while you're at work...

  10. Re:I would buy a Mac... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I would say if you have to make a choice between wife and cool mac os x - you are in wrong boat already.

  11. Re:I would buy a Mac... by beatdown · · Score: 4, Funny

    He said one, not half of one.

  12. Marketing people love you! by sg3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    > Last year's Usenix conference was full of Powerbooks.

    This is an example of Principle of Similarity and Principle of Social Proof including "The Number of Sources" Effect.

    > Most of the top dogs in the industry.

    This is an example of influence using authority, including High Status

    > That prompted me to buy a PowerMac.
    Aha! The requested target action!

    > It's the best computing decision I've ever made.
    Principle of Consistency

    p.s., I'm not mocking you. I just noticed a bunch of statements that match the midterm I have Thursday night. Thus, this post counts as "studying"

    p.p.s., I love my PowerBook

    p.p.p.s., Please note, reading the above post qualifies you to place out of a graduate level Consumer Behavior marketing class.

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    1. Re:Marketing people love you! by mmkkbb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Please tell me you're taking this class so that you are more aware of the techniques being used against you. PLEASE

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    2. Re:Marketing people love you! by sg3000 · · Score: 3, Funny

      > Some of these are also the names of standard logical fallacies,
      > which it appears your Consumer Behaviour class is teaching
      > you to exploit.

      You're correct except for fact you misspelled "behavior"[1]

      > A logic course would teach you the same thing, minus the
      > exploiting part.

      I look a logic class as an undergrad -- in Electrical Engineering, that was the idea of a "fun" elective -- and you're absolutely correct.

      Basically if everyone who ever had to purchase anything registered for a logics class, passed it, and retained enough information to recognize a logical fallacy, advertisements as we know it would cease. Plus, no one would vote Republican[2]. Short of that, everyone should take a consumer behavior class. It was very enlightening.

      Basically Advertising is the reason why Capitalism in practice doesn't work as well as you'd think it would in theory [3].

      Thanks for reading this post [4]

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      [1] Note, this is flamebait to people outside the U.S.

      [2] Another flamebait, albeit "kidding on the square"

      [3] Not flamebait since MBAs are automatically allowed to say things like this and not be accused of being socialists

      [4] Moderators should mod this as overrated since it's clearly pandering to moderators by mentioning moderation at all[5]

      [5] See [4] above

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    3. Re:Marketing people love you! by idontgno · · Score: 5, Funny
      Remarkable.

      "Marketing Principle" = "Logical Fallacy".

      It makes a strange and liberating kind of sense.

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  13. Re:I would buy a Mac... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    My kid brother can aforde a mac mini on lunch money...

    Tell your kid brother that I and all my geeky friends would like our lunch money from the last six months back, uh... please?

  14. All your BSD's belong to us. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "'All the best hackers I know are gradually switching to Macs."

    "All the best..." originally switched from their respective platforms to Linux. Now that Linux is popular (with all that, that brings), they're switching to Macs (or you could say that indirectly they're switching to BSD). Kind of validates the BSD philosophy.

  15. Re:I would buy a Mac... by Kingpin · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..how am I gonna convince my wife that I should.. - why, refuse her sex for a change! *smirk*

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  16. Re:I would buy a Mac... by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 2, Funny

    Gainful employment is reserved for the elite now? Wow, the American dream really HAS died.

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  17. Re:I would buy a Mac... by Moofie · · Score: 1, Funny

    Do you have any sort of justification for your totally made up numbers? You couldn't cover the R&D for OS X and iLife for $199. You also couldn't get much of a monitor for less than $100.

    Want to buy a $200 computer? Knock yourself out. Stop whining about how 'expensive' the mini is. Hell, Steve could bring one to your house and offer you a blowjob, and it still wouldn't be cool enough for you...

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  18. Re:What amazes me most by Lord+Kano · · Score: 3, Funny

    I had Rhapsody DR1 running on a PowerMac 7300. Now THAT was more like a beta.

    LK

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  19. Re:Malware, Viruses by siliconjunkie · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe you can sell your wife the same way I did.

    Damn. You sold your wife? Ruthless.

  20. Re:I would buy a Mac... by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 2, Funny

    why do you even need word perfect?
    one can type fine looking letters with wordpad.

    windows does not however come with iTunes (sure it includes "disappearing border" WMP), iMovie (as opposed to "how many times can i crash a 299 Dell Box" Movie Maker), GarageBand (hmm Recorder?) a calendar, cron, webserver, ssh server, perl interpreter, and let's not forget the secure and tabbed browser (Yikes!!!).

    However the 299 windows box does include a 2 button mouse and probably an evaluation copy of Norton antivirus.

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  21. Well, sure. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    They want the xterms to look pretty while they're logging in to the Linux box across the room. ;-)

    (Just so everyone's aware: just kidding... mostly.)

  22. Re:Malware, Viruses by WhitefishMT · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ruthless, maybe, but if she's good looking enough, screw the mini, you could buy the dual G5!

  23. long background in C by Shag · · Score: 5, Funny

    Heck, it's even attractive to those of us whose background in C is more of the "int" variety.

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  24. Re:I would buy a Mac... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    crawling with grammer nazi's these days
    No apostrophe for plurals, please.

  25. Re:Can I switch? by bastardsquadmuzz · · Score: 3, Funny

    MAC APP TESTER OUTPUT
    =====================

    We have identified that 90% of the programs you have running are unavailable on the Macintosh platform. These programs were:

    Bonzi Buddy
    CoolWebSearch
    DateTime
    Gator
    W32/Bagle.d ldr
    W32/Netsky.p@MM
    ...

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  26. Re:great hardware by jizmonkey · · Score: 2, Funny
    The icing on the cake is Mac on Linux - where you quite literally get to have your cake and eat it too.

    You literally get to have your cake and eat it, too? And the icing is Mac on Linux? Sounds a little, uh, crunchy and plasticky...

    Does the cake come in a cellophane wrapper inside the box, or do they give you a coupon for redemption at a local bakery?

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  27. Totally OT, The Return of the Mac? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 5, Funny

    I missed the first two installments of this slashdot story, i.e., The Fellowship of the GUI, and The Two Kernels. I can't find the links. Can anyone help me?

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    1. Re:Totally OT, The Return of the Mac? by LaminatorX · · Score: 3, Funny
      Actually, the first two stories were A New UI and Redmond Strikes Back, respectively.

      "Help me Steve Wozniak, you're my only hope..."