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Dell Founder Dropped $100M Onto Red Hat

diegocgteleline.es writes "Via google news, I found a article at MSNBC claiming that Michael Dell, Dell's founder and chairman, has droped $100M into Red Hat (Michael himself, not his company). Analyists say that "Dell - neither the person nor the company - is interested in acquiring Red Hat", but one wonders what's behind of this move. A fight against their competence in the server market?"

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  1. linguistic note by greenguy · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Competence" = competition

    In Spanish, competencia means both, hence this is an easy error for native Spanish speakers to make in English.

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    1. Re:linguistic note by 2old2rockNroll · · Score: 2, Informative

      Maybe Dell doesn't want to be locked into MS forever on his server line.

      We've bought quite a few Dell servers - with Red Hat Advanced Server installed.

  2. Correct analyst quote by Software · · Score: 4, Informative
    "The analyst does not see the purchase as a signal that Dell - neither the person nor the company - is interested in acquiring Red Hat."

    Sigh. Editors.

  3. BFD by sysadmn · · Score: 5, Informative
    Conspiracy theorists should read the article. (Oops, this is Slashdot...) Dell's investment management firm bought $99.5MM dollars of debentures out of $600MM offered. Red Hat's market cap is about $2 billion. On top of that, the debentures are convertible to stock at a rate that would give Dell about $42MM worth of stock. It's hard to control a company when you own 2% of the stock.
    Even then, Dell might make money on the deal:
    That's because MSD could have bought Red Hat's debentures using a strategy called "convertible arbitrage," wherein an investment firm buys convertible debt in one bet while short selling the company's common stock at the same time.
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  4. Nothing funny here by DenDave · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually at the time MSD procured the shares it made a lot of sense. ES3 was set to turn a massive userbase into a load of paying users. It was everyone's ecpectation that a significant portion of professional non-paying RedHat Linux 9 users would convert their systems to the paying model. At the time the expectation was that RedHat would thus generate a healthy amount of liquidity and that is always good for share prices. The market didn't quite play out that way but that is of course with hindsight. MSD's decision was a rational investment. Getting Michael Dell a say in the shareholders meeting is of course the priviledge of wealth and there can be no doubt that Dell's views on the market are not without audience in Raleigh. For MSD to diversify his investements is just sound financial management, I mean would you hedge your entire financial future on Dell Computer?? ;)

    speculation of Michael dell actually buying RedHat is, on this information, totally unfounded.

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  5. Proofread, damn it! by PxT · · Score: 2, Informative
    Analyists say that "Dell - neither the person nor the company - is interested in acquiring Red Hat"

    Umm... actually that's not what they say. RTFA! Analysts do not see this as a sign that Dell is interested in acquiring RedHat.

    By the way... Analysists? droped? Spellcheck!

    1. Re:Proofread, damn it! by mkw87 · · Score: 3, Informative

      maybe you should RTFA!!!! read what the analysists said....then read what you wrote and said they said. "Dell - neither the person nor the company - is interested in acquiring Red Hat" That means that neither Dell Computers or Michael Dell himself are interested in buying Red Hat.... i hope you have seen the error in your ways.

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  6. Spending pocket money by proxy2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    $100M accounts for 1% of his estimated cash value... so not really a big risk for Michael.

  7. Re:motivations. by zCyl · · Score: 3, Informative

    That kind of money isn't chump change, so he must think it's a good risk.

    When you have the kind of money he does, the correct phrase is "good enough risk." It probably just means that he thinks the probability of it going up, times the amount it would go up, makes it a worthwhile investment in comparison to the probability of the investment vaporizing.

    And he's probably right. If I had a spare $100 million sitting around, I might do the same.

  8. Re:Maybe... by Momoru · · Score: 2, Informative

    From The Article:

    In a filing with regulators April 27, Red Hat said MSD Capital's $99.5 million worth of debentures would be converted into 3.89 million shares of the Raleigh-based company

  9. "Michael Dell sinks $100M into Red Hat" by Senor_Programmer · · Score: 4, Informative

    denentures are debt. Michael did not invest in Red Hat in the sense that he bought into the companies long term success. He loaned them money. If they can't pay it back, Michael's $(99.5*10^6) may not be sunk. It might be a secured loan. I'll admit, I did not RTFA carefully enough to know if it is secured or not. Of course if the rate of return is high enough it's unlikely that RHAT won't be around long enough for principal recovery to be gravy on the steak.

    My $12K in Novell stock is different. It represents faith in the company as opposed to faith in the company being able to pay me back.

    Then again, Michael may be playing off Redhat against Microsoft to get bettr pricing, just like he does with AMD&Intel which could well result in the loan paying off many times over for his company, which he owns a lot of, in short order.

    Nowthat Senor dillitante investor has spoken, let's here from some folks who know what they're talking about :-)

    1. Re:"Michael Dell sinks $100M into Red Hat" by pavera · · Score: 3, Informative

      The debt was convertible (meaning they can change the debt to stock). Dell has already converted it, if you look at Redhat's balance sheets they showed 600 mil in debt, and over the last 3 quarters that has almost all disappeared as the owners of the debt have converted the debt to stock.
      It mentions in the article that Dell's stock after the conversion is only worth about 45 mil as Redhat's stock has tanked over the last year.

  10. He isn't buying stock by RealAlaskan · · Score: 2, Informative
    debenture
    Unsecured debt backed only by the integrity of the borrower, not by collateral, and documented by an agreement called an indenture. One example is an unsecured bond.
    From TFA:
    Dell invested his own money in the Raleigh Linux software developer, taking the largest single chunk of $600 million in debentures offered by the company in January 2004.
    These seem to be a 0.5% convertable senior bond, so it's fairly safe and he gets paid to wait for the stock price to jump.
  11. Re:Making sure you have multiple suppliers is smar by spideyct · · Score: 2, Informative

    Micheal Dell is not the CEO of Dell, Inc.
    Michael Dell is not a commodity manager for Dell, Inc.
    Obviously he has input into the strategy for the company, but I don't think he single-handedly negotiates deals with suppliers.

    Michael Dell only needs a single source for the OS on his personal computer. What Dell,Inc puts on their computers is unrelated to this story.

    I don't know how much "muscle" Michael Dell has, but I'm sure he has enough "money" to afford the higher cost of a single personal copy of Microsoft Windows XP, if that is what you mean.

  12. Re:Maybe... by LnxAddct · · Score: 3, Informative

    Consdiering that Bank of America and a few other major investment companies are all saying to buy Red Hat stock, it probably will sky rocket again. Rumor has it that 2008 is supposed to be a good year (how someone can forecast that far ahead is beyond me). Red Hat would have still been at $29 if a major person from the corporation didn't all the sudden up and leave, investors freaked and pulled out. Anyway... you can't judge the value of a company by its stock price alone. If I had to invest in any tech comapny now, itd probably be Red Hat, I've been following them for a while and they seem to have their shit together. And now they are majorly expanding in foreign countries and governments as well. Red Hat has always been good to me and they have my full support. You really can't get quality like Red Hat's anywhere else in the market (the closest is Suse, but then no other distro even comes close and yes I've had to do professional evaluations for many distributions to find out which was best for our company which has pretty generic needs). For those who are going to complain about Red Hat's prices, Suse cost just as much if you get business level support and its support is not up to par with Red Hat from what I've seen. Also, Fedora was a great move despite all the nay-sayers. This would be why Fedora usage is already over 200,000 servers and growing over 3 times faster then any other distro (the next fastest being Gentoo, but they only have about 45,000 servers). Red Hat enterprise linux along with Fedora have 1.8 million servers, Debian is their closest competitor with 800,000 followed by Suse with 450,000 (this is all according to Netcraft).
    Regards,
    Steve

  13. The Real Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Michael Dell has an investment foundation called MSD investments that has 70 Wall Street investment professionals working for it. Notice that I said "it" and not "him". This is because his foundation is an independent entity that makes decisions based upon increasing the value of his holdings. It's clear that the fund employed an arbitrage strategy by buying the bonds and simultaneously shorting the stock. An alternative to this story could have been that "MICHAEL DELL SHORTS $100MM OF RED HAT'S SHARES!!!" or even further "MICHAEL DELL LOSES $50MM IN CONVERTIBLE BOND VALUE!!!". The truth is most likely along the lines of "MICHAEL DELL EMPLOYS A CONVERTIBLE BOND ARBITRAGE STRATEGY IN RED HAT THAT YIELDS A NEARLY RISK-LESS RETURN OF 11.4% OR 5.3% OVER PRIME!!!". This was not a bet on Red Hat being a good investment, this was a bet to exploit a pricing differential between bond and equity markets.
    In other words: Dell is NOT buying Red Hat. Please proceed to pull all panties out of wadded areas.

  14. Re:Dell UNIX by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are confusing Dell Unix with WebObjects made by Next which ran on Dells ecommerce site until recently when it was switched to .net.

    But nextOS was ported to x86 when it was dieng a year before Apple bought it in order to convert it to MacOSX.