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torrentnerd writes "If you're on the hunt for Linux ISO Torrents you might want to check out the long list of recently released distro torrents over at LinuxISOtorrent.com. They've got frequently updated torrents from A (Arch) to Z (Zen). The site only does one thing, but does it well - helps you get the latest Linux distros downloaded via BitTorrent, quickly."

181 comments

  1. Useful, but... by geomon · · Score: 1

    It would be nice to see how they get thier update informaton. Distrowatch has the same information, but this site appears to be focused strictly on providing links to torrents.

    Does this site represent all of the distros available, or just those most used? (with stats drawn from where?)

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    1. Re:Useful, but... by Bananatree3 · · Score: 1

      One thing's for sure... It doesn't have Wolf Linux!

    2. Re:Useful, but... by geomon · · Score: 1

      Cool. Do you use it?

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    3. Re:Useful, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And where are the smp torrents?

    4. Re:Useful, but... by tveidt · · Score: 1
      > Does this site represent all of the distros available

      Nope, just the very tip of the iceberg.

      From the LXer feed earlier today: " It might sound like an exaggeration, but I receive an average of 2 - 3 requests per week to include a new distribution. "

      Just to get an idea of the level of fragmentation that's taking place. That there's a 90-day waiting period so that they don't add distros that are dead the next day speaks volumes too.

      Also click on the dropdown menu at the top of the Distrowatch page to get a more complete list of available distros.

    5. Re:Useful, but... by shokk · · Score: 1

      And then there's always http://www.linuxiso.org which has been doing this for a very long time. I always recall their download speeds being pretty decent, unlike some if the 2k/sec torrents I've gotten.

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  2. Why can't it automatically remove? by Eunuch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I see a link to report dead torrents. Why not automatically check for dead links occasionally?

    I suppose they can be given some leniency, but if it's down for a whole week, it shouldn't require human intervention to drop from the page.

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    1. Re:Why can't it automatically remove? by th0mas.sixbit.org · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's a bit more complex than a 404 to detect a dead torrent. The torrent file can exist but if no one is seeding it, then it is effectively dead - no one can download the entire file. There are scripts out there that check that, but usually iirc they are local to the tracker. I'm not sure if the tracker broadcasts this data or not.

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    2. Re:Why can't it automatically remove? by packetl0ss · · Score: 1
      but if no one is seeding it, then it is effectively dead - no one can download the entire file.

      That is only accurate if 100% of the file isn't distributed among the peers of the torrent. It is possible for torrents to not have a seeder and still have people completely download it successfully, as long as 100% of the file is distributed among the peers participating in the torrent.

    3. Re:Why can't it automatically remove? by th0mas.sixbit.org · · Score: 1

      good point, and because of this it's even harder to know when a torrent is truly dead or not.

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    4. Re:Why can't it automatically remove? by xtracto · · Score: 1

      yep, and it is also better when it is a big package/dir.

      I remember trying to download a DVD (no not copyrighted) with 2 sides, it was 1 torrent but there where 2 persons with 1 "side" of the torrent each one, so although no one was seeding the torrent was complete and it was better for them to "seed" the file (may count as something like distributed seeding).

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    5. Re:Why can't it automatically remove? by ajs · · Score: 1

      And this is why you should use Gnutella instead. Simply search by name, SHA1 or extension and download what you need.

      I've never had to check to see how many people are seeding something, and within 1-3 seconds of kicking off a download, I've usually discovered 2-500 other people who are actively downloading and sharing the result.

      Want a searchable BitTorrent? It's spelled Gnutella.

    6. Re:Why can't it automatically remove? by rpdillon · · Score: 1
      Yeah. Because Gnutella offers downloads that scale well when new distros are released. It allows people who don't have complete copies of a high-demand file can contribute to the swarm. Searches are really fast, too, because you can immediately hop on the network and find most anything you need immediately. Also, it's network topology doesn't splinter users, in centralizes them based on what files they demand.

      Oh wait...

      Not to bash Gnutella, but there is a very good reason it is not used for large downloads that tend to get Slashdotted, like new Linux distro releases. Using Gnutella for downing Linux ISOs is a step backward. The Gnutella network is good for some things, but as Bit Torrent mutates into a decentralized network that can use an anonymous routing layer, Gnutella will fall off the map, I think.

      Instead of talking about Gnutella, I'm surprised more posts haven't mentioned the other Linux tracker sites:

      Linuxtracker
      The Linux Mirror Project

    7. Re:Why can't it automatically remove? by packetl0ss · · Score: 1
      It allows people who don't have complete copies of a high-demand file can contribute to the swarm.

      You probably haven't used gnutella in over 2 or 3 years. Modern gnutella clients have had partial file sharing for years now that allows people who don't have complete copies of a file to contribute to the swarm, complete with hash checking of each individual piece, not just the entire file (using "tiger tree" hashing or THEX, I think).

      Searches are really fast, too, because you can immediately hop on the network and find most anything you need immediately.

      That is true thanks to "dynamic querying" that some gnutella clients already have. Dynamic querying helps gnutella clients not waste as much bandwidth on extremely popular searches, so that a lot less of the searches for rare content would be dropped on the network (that would have been dropped from excessive bandwidth usage of popular queries or query replies).

    8. Re:Why can't it automatically remove? by rpdillon · · Score: 1

      I stand corrected.

      I just took another look at the improvements that have been made in the protocol, and also tested a new client out (gtk-gnutella, Linux), and have to admit, I am impressed at the VAST improvements made in the past months/years.

      Thanks for the response.

    9. Re:Why can't it automatically remove? by Clith · · Score: 1
      Another problem is that "death" isn't permanent. Indeed, some people can only seed at certain times (e.g. at night), so the torrent can appear dead during the day and have 3 seeds at night.

      I would say that a torrent that has had zero seeds for less than 24 hours isn't dead, just "restin', pining for the fjords". After, say, 72 hours, I think you can actually call it dead.

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  3. It's not just Linux. by truedfx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also some of the *BSDs.

    1. Re:It's not just Linux. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ...but the links are dead *rimshot*.

  4. Legality? by ROBOKATZ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is this legal? Can't the MPAA sue you if you use BitTorrent, even if it is just to download Linux?

    1. Re:Legality? by Eric+Smith · · Score: 1
      Can't the MPAA sue you if you use BitTorrent, even if it is just to download Linux?
      What exactly would they sue you for? If you're just downloading (and uploading) Linux, you're not infringing any copyrights belonging to MPAA members.
    2. Re:Legality? by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      No, not in the slightest. This line of logical reasoning would allow people to be arrested for using the phone network on the grounds that crimes have been planned via phone in the past... *Rolls eyes*

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      "To any truly impartial person, it would be obvious that I am right."
    3. Re:Legality? by slavemowgli · · Score: 5, Funny

      Obviously, if you're using BitTorrent, you're a terrorist, and if you're downloading Linux, you're a communist, too.

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    4. Re:Legality? by HermanAB · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The RIAA/MPAA probably won't be that stupid, but they can sue you for downloading Linux with a torrent. You cannot prevent people from sueing you, but that doesn't mean that they have a case or will win in court. Most likely, a Judge will throw such a case out and refuse to waste his time on it.

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      Oh well, what the hell...
    5. Re:Legality? by jtwJGuevara · · Score: 1

      Your browser must not know how to parse tags.

    6. Re:Legality? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1, Troll

      Can't the MPAA sue you if you use BitTorrent, even if it is just to download Linux?

      This becomes a problem only if you have stash of illegal files on your hard drive. The MPPA can argue that BitTorrent + Illegal Files = Guilty As Hell. If you are only downloading Linux Files and everything else on your hard drive is legal, then the MPAA can't prove anything.

    7. Re:Legality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the MPAA uses Beowulf Clusters (imagine it!) to process the CGI animations...

      So there.

    8. Re:Legality? by jtwJGuevara · · Score: 1

      Your browser must not know how to parse tags.

    9. Re:Legality? by alexhs · · Score: 1

      Your browser must not know how to parse <sarcasm> tags.

      Yeah, that's because slashcode hides them :)

      (it seems "plain old text" and "extrans" have been inverted for ages)

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    10. Re:Legality? by jtwJGuevara · · Score: 1

      That's what I get for not using the Preview button :(

    11. Re:Legality? by Barsema · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or even Bittorrent and PGP ....

    12. Re:Legality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely "Illegal Files = Guilty As Hell" by definition? (within the bounds of claiming you didn't put them there, they are definitely "illegal", etc etc). BitTorrent doesn't really come into it.

      And as for the MPAA being unable to prove anything if you use BitTorrent to download Linux ISOs and have only legal material on your drive, um, duh. There is nothing to prove.

      Can someone get rid of the "Insightful" mod and add "Laughably stupid"? Thanks.

    13. Re:Legality? by Husgaard · · Score: 1
      Ouch. Communist terrorists. I wonder how long it will take the current US government to make BitTorrent illegal.

      Seriously, once we have won the MGM v. Grokster case in the US Supreme Court, I am sure that arguments about both communists and terrorists using p2p are going to be used in an attempt to pass laws banning p2p.

    14. Re:Legality? by Pollardito · · Score: 2, Funny

      is it fair to mod something redundent if they've posted just what you were thinking?

    15. Re:Legality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course... the title should read:

      Find Linux Torrents Quickly... because the MPAA will shut the servers down tomorrow

      <aside>For the humor-deficient, this is a joke.</aside>

    16. Re:Legality? by Bodysurf · · Score: 1

      The RIAA/MPAA probably won't be that stupid, but they can sue you for downloading Linux with a torrent. You cannot prevent people from sueing you, but that doesn't mean that they have a case or will win in court. Most likely, a Judge will throw such a case out and refuse to waste his time on it.

      But you might have to waste a lot of time and possibly spend a few hundred (thousands??) bucks just to get to that point.

      Unfortunately, you can't just wave your hands in the air or call the judge and tell them they are FOS.

      And remember, a few hundred/thousands dollars to you is only like $5.00 to the xxAA.

    17. Re:Legality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are modded troll because you are an idiot for not catching a joke.

    18. Re:Legality? by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      Well, that is the problem with living in a 'Rechtstaat' or something similar. Anybody can sue anyone, about anything, at any time, for any reason, real, or imagined.

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      Oh well, what the hell...
    19. Re:Legality? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      The only Troll here is YOU! Not only do you not know how to mod correctly (it's better to promote), you have to inform everyone else that you don't know how to mod correctly. Therefore, you're a troll.

      However, I'm not my mod points on you. There are other people who can say better things than you or me who deserve mod points. :P

    20. Re:Legality? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Surely "Illegal Files = Guilty As Hell" by definition?

      Let me rephrase the part that you miss...

      [Any transfer client that the MPAA hates] + [Any stash of illegal files you may have] = Guilty As Hell

      The MPAA has made it clear that they hate BitTorrent. The key part for the MPAA is to get the case before a dumb judge and/or a dumber jury to make this formula work. Under normal circumstances, the MPAA is wasting everyones' time. However, when you have Senators demanding that "activist" judges be removed from the bench when they are correctly upholding the law, the rule of law is starting to break down in this country. You can't assume that anything is safe anymore.

    21. Re:Legality? by Trendkill · · Score: 1

      they cant sue you for using bit torrent. the sue you for using bit torrent to download illegal material such as mp3 etc since linux is open source, and under the gpl licence, it is legal to download a full version of it via whatever transport protocol. the mpaa arent the internet police, they are a legal body that "looks after" the rights of the music/film industry.

    22. Re:Legality? by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      You don't get it. Someone can sue you for looking his way in the street. It doesn't mean that he is going to win the case. The point is that you can be sued for anything at all under the sun and there is nothing you can do to prevent it. That is the way the system works.

      Socrates was sued for "corrupting the youth of Athens". He thought it was frivoulous (which it was), didn't provide a proper defense (since he was an old curmudgeon by then 70 years old) and LOST the case (and his life mind you).

      The lesson being that you can be sued for ANYTHING and you have to take it seriously when it happens.

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      Oh well, what the hell...
    23. Re:Legality? by audiorevolution · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm a Marxist, so I guess the gig is up! ;-)

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    24. Re:Legality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sweet i'm a communist terrorist!

    25. Re:Legality? by systemofadown · · Score: 1

      why are u askinonly a communist would want to download linux. ;)

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    26. Re:Legality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think p2p is unpopular with government officials because the government isn't interested in a society of Peers, but prefer a Master-Slave relationship.

  5. Nice clean layout but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    live tracker stats would be an obvious plus...

    1. Re:Nice clean layout but.... by sud_crow · · Score: 1

      they dont run the tracker for each torrent, if you pay attention to the torrents, you will se that they are from official sites (most of them), so the tracker are at the official distro sites.

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  6. whore by Dani+Filth · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Hey, let's copy and past from OSNews all day.

    1. Re:whore by truedfx · · Score: 1

      It doesn't seem to be copied. The same guy simply submitted it to both sites.

  7. Re:You insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time to switch ISPs then! - stop making those ISPs money. They want to block legitimate usage, make them go out of business.

  8. torrents come and go by downsize · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have over 20GB of linux distros/kernels in my online file storage. I have hit many of the torrents over the past couple months stocking up. I can't stand trying to find a mirror that is fast enough, so storing them, as I do, works out perfectly.

    this article's http://www.linuxisotorrent.com/ site will be sweet to find some of the stuff I've been having trouble locating (I hope). so far it looks very cool

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    1. Re:torrents come and go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have over 20GB of linux distros/kernels in my online file storage.

      Not that my English is perfect, but shouldn't that be "had"?

    2. Re:torrents come and go by lonb · · Score: 4, Informative

      dude, you forgot the '?' in the URL and you are losing valuable free ad days. YOUR correct URL would be:
      http://www.shinyfeet.com/?afd=91

      ain't I a nice guy?

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    3. Re:torrents come and go by downsize · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't get that? I do *have* it, and it continues to grow. TBH, I do not know the exact number because the filemanager does not tell you per folder size only the total usage and per file (I have submitted that feature request a couple of times, hopefully they'll add it).

      I actually have a total of 63.2GB in my file manager, but I know the majority is in my linux folder (sub'd with distros, kernels, and various patches, misc files).

      If it was not for their Download URL feature, I'd probably only have 5GB as it would take forever to download first and the re-upload (even from the saturated T1 at work).

      oh i just got it, you were being an asshole

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    4. Re:torrents come and go by downsize · · Score: 1

      that you are :-}

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  9. While on the topic of Linux... by InsideTheAsylum · · Score: 1

    I have an old pII 233mhz with 64 megs of ram. All I want to do with is browse the web and check email, so I'm wondering, what flavour of linux would work best for that? I don't want anything bloated either :)

    1. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Freesbie

      Don't expect to run KDE or GNOME though. Xfce would probably be OK.

    2. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by cybersaga · · Score: 2, Informative

      Try Gentoo.

      *giggles inside*

    3. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by geomon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Any version of Linux will work, but you have to be careful not to load up on services, libraries, and select a light-weight window manager. IceWM and FVWM would be good choices.

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    4. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by mindaktiviti · · Score: 1

      I just got the same type of machine as well (P2 233mhz, although I added 256 ram to it :P).

      Abiword, trillian, winamp, firefox, avg, all work well on it, but it's using Windows ME. :(

    5. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by 101percent · · Score: 0

      Why not give damn small linux a try and use mainly cli apps like lynx, links, w3m, mutt, emacs, gnus, mpd, vim, raggle...

      Most everything you can do on the X you can do on the CLI with a little initial learning.

      Other distros you may want to try are debian, slackware, and a non-distro called bsd.

    6. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try Damn Small Linux. It's Knoppix-based and very non-bloated. Does all the basics.

    7. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by SQLz · · Score: 2, Funny

      lol. Ten years later.... "for the love of god its finished installing!!"

    8. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's easy!!

      Why you need...

      Window2000 Linux (the linux is silent)

      (and of course cygwin and firefox and a shizzload of other free stuff.)

      heck go with gentoo, all the compiling, no cruft.

    9. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      Hey, try Windows 2000. Much more stable than ME and uses memory so much better. Add another hard drive and use "Dynamic Disks" to stripe the Swap (and catalog (indexing service) and temp folders...) across drives and you'll have a flying machine.

    10. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by croddy · · Score: 1
      OS/2 Warp.

      for serious.

    11. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by obarthelemy · · Score: 2, Informative

      DSL (damn small linux) was designed for you !
      http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

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    12. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by ssj_195 · · Score: 1

      Ouch :) In addition to Damn Small Linux, you might also want to try Vector Linux, Feather Linux and Puppy Linux. Any or all should do but hey, at a 50-100MB download, why try just the one? :)

    13. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by encyclo · · Score: 2, Informative

      You could try DeLi Linux:

      http://www.delilinux.de/

      Your machine is very high-end for that distro. Once you've got the basic system running with the IceWM window manager, you can download and install Firefox which should run OK. DeLi Linux is based on Slackware 7.1 and runs briskly even on hardware much slower than yours.

      Another option is to go with Debian stable (Woody). Like DeLi Linux, it has the old 2.2 kernel by default. The main browser in there however is Netscape 4.77 Communicator - which can be hard work as a web browser these days, although the email client is excellent (and loads better than many "lightweight" alternatives available today).

      (I have a 166MHz Pentium with 72Mb RAM running Woody with Netscape 4.77 which I use as a test web server - a good simple, old-fashioned machine.)

    14. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by kinkos · · Score: 1

      http://www.vectorlinux.com/ is supposed to be designed for older hardware. Works nice on newer hardware too, very fast.

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    15. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're like the 5th person to mention it. Do people even bother to look to see if they are repeating someone else or do they just wanna fit in with the 'me too' crowd?

    16. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by sockdoll · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've had success with VectorLinux. Based on Slackware, it was designed to run a GUI on older machines.

      It comes in two flavors - a stripped-down, basic version that works well for web-browsing and email; and the SOHO version which still runs well on older machines, but comes with a full complement of productivity software.

      It appears that only the SOHO version is available on the Linux ISO torrent site. The basic version is available at the VectorLinux site itself.

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    17. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by packetl0ss · · Score: 1

      Xfce might also be a good choice.

    18. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by palmem · · Score: 1
      old pII 233mhz with 64 megs of ram

      Gentoo...

    19. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by hawaiian717 · · Score: 1

      I actually do run Gentoo on an old machine. In my case it's an 8 year old 160MHz PowerPC 603ev with 96MB of RAM. It took a little while to get going, but it wasn't too bad. Stage 3 install, and it built Apache, PHP, and MySQL in under 24 hours. I run it as a server, so it doesn't have X on it, which saved some time. There's always the GRP from which you can install binary packages.

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    20. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by sockdoll · · Score: 1

      And I'm the third or fourth person to mention VectorLinux (which can conveniently be found on the Linux ISO Torrent site) - but there were no references to it on this thread when I clicked on the "Reply to This" link.

      I guess we can't all be as unique and cool as you, Mr/Ms Anonymous Coward. (Though at least we're on topic)...

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    21. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can't read before you post then you're a dolt.

      You may be on topic but you're plenty Redundant.

    22. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by iibagod · · Score: 2, Informative

      Uninformed stereotype. Gentoo was perfect for my PII 400mhz...up and running with X and firefox under 24 hours. I get to choose what to install and what to leave out....instead of start with what the distro installs and cull the bloat.

      Maybe you giggle because you assume a Linux newbie can't read a manual.....

    23. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by zogger · · Score: 1

      try any of the minis, like Puppy, Damn Small, Austrumi, etc. but really, just get a stick of decent ram, it's not that much to make that machine work much better.

      Your processor is quite fast enough, just most linux with GUI nowadays take at least 128, but 256 is better and you can run most any distro out there then. Up until a few months ago all I used was a PP200, it worked fine with fedora core once I put enough RAM in it.

      If you want a real small one, that'll run on even more ancient and anemic machines, try blue flops linux, just two floppies total. I've browsed with it before and even posted to slashdot with it. There's was a write up here a couple weeks back about it I believe.

    24. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 1

      I'm just a little fuzzy on the advantage gained by compiling it yourself instead of just installing it. I mean, what advantage did you get by those 24 hours of compilation. Pulling down a debian install (or some other distribution) does the same damned thing, without actually compiling it yourself. And debian will install-on-demand with dependencies, as will (I'm sure) any other modern distribution. What's your point?

      Gentoo just seems... silly to me, for most applications.

      --grendel drago

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      Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
    25. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by iibagod · · Score: 3, Informative

      Gentoo's not really about the compiling...most people point to that as its main difference. What sets gentoo apart is the USE flags and Portage. You can compile programs with the features you want, and say leave out GNOME or KDE support. I run a Flux desktop with minimal Gnome or Kde crap in there....I've got Kde-base installed so I can run the few kde apps I need. But I don't have anything in there I didnt specifically choose to install. If I want a certain package and it brings in too many dependencies, I change my USE flags and it compiles without those options.

      Using funroll-loops.org to argue against Gentoo is like boycotting Honda because of all the 'ricers. It's silly to even judge a distro on the basis of some of its less intelligent users. Debian users have a rather bad rep in the Gentoo forums....doesn't mean we hate Debian..in fact, most of us support it or Ubuntu to bring along girlfriend/spouse to Linux...I'll be installing Ubuntu for my girlfriend sometime this month.

      On newer systems you dont get much of a performance boost with different CFLAGS, but on his PII it might make a world of difference. I don't use customized CFLAGS so I can keep a more stable system....the boost it gives doesn't really compensate for some stability issues. Those ricers you see on funroll-loops usually break something then get upset when we laugh at them...there are some really great bugs in bugzilla.

      Gentoo isn't about the compiling....its about the flexibility and customization to streamline each package.

    26. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by bit01 · · Score: 1

      I haven't used Gentoo but I can understand their point of view.

      It's the computer doing the compilation, not them, so that doesn't cost them much. Particularly if they have more than one computer.

      And if they compile it themselves they have more control, it gives them a warm fuzzy feeling. It's also a good vehicle to learn and experiment. So why not?

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    27. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by mindaktiviti · · Score: 1

      I suppose I have memory for Windows 2000. Then again it'd be more fun to try linux. Who knows, if I can get it working nicely then I could move other family members to linux, as opposed to pirating software all the time (i.e. windows).

    28. Re:While on the topic of Linux... by A+Numinous+Cohort · · Score: 1

      I was running Fedora Core 2 on my PII 250mhz machine until quite recently when the power supply went pooft. But I had 300 MB RAM in it.

      I have also installed Red Hat 9 on less powerful machines (486, P1) with just 32MB RAM using the installer developed by the RULE project http://www.rule-project.org/en/ (old URL, their website appears to be down ATM). The current version of their installer is capable of installing FC3 AFAIK.

  10. It's nice by cybersaga · · Score: 1

    It's nice to have a kernel.org (sort of) equivalent for distributions.

  11. Is this off-topic? So many flavors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm a Windows user and went briefly to Fedora Core 3. I had problems when I upgraded my computer and couldn't get FC3 running again, even after a full recompile.

    I was asking questions on www.linuxquestions.org, but nobody could help me even though I posted all of the error messages and problems, so they recommend I try another version of Linux.

    This site illustrates one of the problems with Linux that most regular users would have. How do you pick one of these? How do you compare them all and say "That one has the features I need". It looks like there is at least 50+ different distros. Do you have to click on each little site info graphic just to learn about them? It is just too confusing to know which one to use, and I'm a computer programmer with a decent amount of computer skills. I'd hate to see what poor Aunt Mable or Grandma would think if they saw that list.

    And not that anyone is interested, but I finally bit the bullet and bought an OEM version of XP SP2 to save money on the Microsoft tax (I was Win 98 before switching to FC3).

  12. A (Arch) by soloport · · Score: 2, Insightful
  13. Re:You insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've already cancelled.

  14. Least you can do. by Eunuch · · Score: 1

    But the 404 is the least you can do. Same thing with the links to the webpage.

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  15. Find Linus Torvalds Quickly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Note to self: slow down a tad when reading slashdot headlines.

  16. Re:Is this off-topic? So many flavors? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

    Agreed. At the very least, this needs a small description of each distro, like you find at Linux.org. Primary language, purpose (firewall, general, app development, etc). This appears to be a good BT place to get what you already know about.

  17. Re:Is this off-topic? So many flavors? by m50d · · Score: 1
    You go for one you know can give you the support you need. Other than that, go for a big one unless you have a reason to go for a particular other one. Many of the distros are just someone making their own LFS system and then deciding to release it.

    Fedora is just red hat's public beta and gives you all the disadvantages of redhat with none of its advantages: namely, you have a heavily modified system, but none of the big support structure. If you try suse or mandrake or basically anything non-redhat I think you'll have a much better experience.

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  18. OT - Debian Sarge by EvanED · · Score: 1

    Anyone know if this is being released to stable today?

    The timeline set May 3 gives today as a release and I don't know of any changes, but there's nothing up there about the new release.

    1. Re:OT - Debian Sarge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a minor delay, see this recent debian-devel-announce post.

    2. Re:OT - Debian Sarge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      New target date is next Monday, June 6.

    3. Re:OT - Debian Sarge by SammyTheSnake · · Score: 1

      For up-to-date information on Debian, it's a good idea to check out Debian Wekly News (http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/ - there are also e-mail and RSS versions) which recently has had Sarge release reports. In summary, it's been frozen since about the 3rd of May, final release is currently expected about "now"! This is the latest schedule I can find, though if you were to read the mailing lists you'd probably find a more up-to-date one. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005 /05/msg00001.html

  19. Damned Pirates by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Only pirates trading in 'copyright infringing materials' use bittorrent.

    Thats what my friends at the *aa's told my child in school last week anyway... And something about a 'reward program' of some sort.

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    1. Re:Damned Pirates by MP3Chuck · · Score: 1

      So sit your kid down and show him 1) BT has legit uses and 2) there are alternatives to MSWin.

      Two birds with one stone, no less. ;)

    2. Re:Damned Pirates by jhoger · · Score: 1

      I'm curious --

      Did the school give you any kind of notice that they were bringing in corporate representatives to brainwash your children?

      Did you have any choice in the matter?

      One day my kids will be in school, and I'd like to have a checklist to go over with the teachers from time to time...

      -- John.

  20. Re:You insensitive clod! by EvanED · · Score: 1

    Sometime you don't have a choice. Penn State (and plenty of other universities) have firewalls up that block bittorrent. Switching ISPs however would require moving out of the dorms and finding an apartment. Kind of a drastic move to be able to use BT, huh?

  21. Kudos to the Slashdot editors... by Will2k_is_here · · Score: 4, Informative

    for providing free advertising.
    I thought the story sounded like an advertisement:

    whois linuxisotorrent.com ...
    Updated Date: 27-may-2005
    Creation Date: 27-may-2005
    Expiration Date: 27-may-2006 ...
    As if these things aren't hard enough to find anyway. To the story submitter: I know your new site applies and is a good idea, but don't hijack Slashdot's power for your own gain.

    1. Re:Kudos to the Slashdot editors... by giacomo-b · · Score: 2, Interesting

      the site is not exploiting hijacking /. power for his own gain...

      i can't find even a small banner on their home page...

      they are just offering an useful service to the community... sure those thing aren't hard to find but i would have to browse the distro home page following 3-4 links and wasting, let's say, a minute...

      now i can download a distro torrent with just a click!

    2. Re:Kudos to the Slashdot editors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How could you miss the big black column of google ads on the right?

    3. Re:Kudos to the Slashdot editors... by Crimson+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Right, but the point is that it was submitted as news of a site happening to exist. It was not presented to slashdot as a situation where one wishes to promote their new website. The website does have banner advertising, which companies pay for.... so submitting it as a story basically is trying to subvert paying for an advert.... which is unprofessional and is breaking the rules.

      Either that or it was submitted by a person who just found it... and that seems more likely. The editorial system here usually catches that sort of thing.

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    4. Re:Kudos to the Slashdot editors... by Lu+Xun · · Score: 1

      Right now the site looks more like a handy resource than one for generating revenue. There's only one text ad on the front page, and all the links go direct to the torrents. That the submitter owns the site however, is a little suspect. Probably not good form to self-promote in this manner, but they could have always submitted as an AC.

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    5. Re:Kudos to the Slashdot editors... by giacomo-b · · Score: 1

      d'oh!

      i was using adblock...
      i've just seen it after disabling the plugins and i've seen the google ad-bar...

      excuse me :-)

    6. Re:Kudos to the Slashdot editors... by Will2k_is_here · · Score: 1

      Either that or it was submitted by a person who just found it... and that seems more likely. The editorial system here usually catches that sort of thing.

      No, that seems unlikely. The submitter uses linuxisotorrent.org as contact instead of the email address. More likely, the user built the site, registered it, and used slashdot to advertise it to the public (and there are adverts on the page). I had a site the slashdot crowd would be interested but I didn't submit it to slashdot because I knew it would be rejected for trying to get free advertising. Maybe I should have submitted.

    7. Re:Kudos to the Slashdot editors... by Crimson+Dragon · · Score: 1

      Sure, but the possibility exists since you don't have the original email. However, it is a good point to raise.

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    8. Re:Kudos to the Slashdot editors... by jht · · Score: 1

      Gee, the site just seems like a pretty useful reference, kind of like a less cluttered, Torrent-oriented linuxiso.org.

      Of course, thanks to good old PithHelmet I wouldn't have seen any banners anyhow...

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      "2. Do not eat iPod Shuffle."
    9. Re:Kudos to the Slashdot editors... by ErikRed1488 · · Score: 1
      How could you miss the big black column of google ads on the right?

      Two words: Firefox + Adblock.

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  22. LiveCD? (was Re:While on the topic of Linux...) by Laebshade · · Score: 1

    Why not try a LiveCD? Knoppix, Ubuntu, etc.

    1. Re:LiveCD? (was Re:While on the topic of Linux...) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they use a ramdisk for the root fs, and his old PC probably doesn't have much memory to spare.

    2. Re:LiveCD? (was Re:While on the topic of Linux...) by kubla2000 · · Score: 1

      Because he hasn't got nearly enough ram to run those Live CDs. They'll also try to load up KDE or Gnome which will grind that machine to halt.

  23. Re:Is this off-topic? So many flavors? by jtwJGuevara · · Score: 2, Informative

    Part of the attractiveness of Linux is that you are not locked in to one particular vendor's way of doing things. This is also part of the problem for new users as the number of choices, while advantageous for the novice or expert, is absolutely daunting for the beginner. linuxquestions.org has a forums section dedicated to distribution reviews created by users. These can give you insight into what distributions might suit your preferences.

  24. groovy by FudRucker · · Score: 1

    this is good, all good...

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  25. The Linux Mirror Project by goldenratiophi · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.tlm-project.org/ They have the latest Linux torrents, but also some more old ones. It also has a message board.

  26. Microsoft Windows... by nurb432 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Isn't allowed in my house, so he already knows there are alternatives.

    Well, actually i take that back, i do have an original unopened box of 'microsoft windows environment 1.0' on the shelf with my other retro software collection.. But that is different ..

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
    1. Re:Microsoft Windows... by nagora · · Score: 1
      i do have an original unopened box of 'microsoft windows environment 1.0' on the shelf

      You're not missing anything. If anyone ever claims that MS got where it is through hard work and products people wanted, show them Windows v1 to 3. NOBODY would have bought that crap if it hadn't been pre-installed.

      TWW

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    2. Re:Microsoft Windows... by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      While i agree totally it was garbage, i honestly dont remember v1 being pre-installed anywhere, and this is a *retail* box. Complete with 'export restriction' tag..

      Back when it was new, we were installing OS/2 instead..

      Its just in my collection for the sake of history, sitting aside other classics such as 'dejaview' , 'concurrent dos', 'desqview', 'symphony'.....

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      ---- Booth was a patriot ----
    3. Re:Microsoft Windows... by idontgno · · Score: 1
      i honestly dont remember v1 being pre-installed anywhere...

      Lucky. I'm still in counseling.

      Actually, it was fun, in a sick sad way. It was 1987, I was airman in the US Air Force, using a Zenith Z248 (80286 processor and a WHOLE MEG OF RAM! W00T!). We didn't even realize it had "Windows" until we started pokin' around in DOS.

      Great fun... start up 10 different copies of "clock". Windows would actually begin to lose time trying to keep the second hand on 10 different "analog clock" displays updated. Within about 5 minutes the clocks were varying degrees of behind, as much a 45 seconds behind on some of the displays. Sad. And the machine was so wedged that it had to be power cycled to come back.

      I had already been toying with a Macintosh, and I was definitely not impressed with Microsoft. We never ran it again, but our superintendent wouldn't let us delete that waste of disk space because he had the peculiar idea that we were accountable for the actual software on the hard drive. I guess that's how they did it in his punch-card mainframe days, so I can't blame him.

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  27. Re:Is this off-topic? So many flavors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really couldn't. I went from a Pentium 3 500 MHz with 128 Mb of RAM to a 3.6 GHz Pentium 4 with Hyperthreading and some very new hardware, including a PCI Express graphics card. No matter what I did, all desktops locked up during loading at a point where I could do nothing.

    After two days, I finally figured out I could get to the command prompt with the help of the rescue cd, and followed instructions for a full recompile, but it didn't help.

    Remember, I was a new user to Linux. And unless I do a good job convincing her that I can make it work, my wife will never let me try Linux on that computer again. :( At least we use FireFox and Open Office on XP. I really did want to use Linux.

  28. Re:You insensitive clod! by satterth · · Score: 1

    Get yourself a shell account on a server that has a fast and reliable route to your dorm. Have you tried different ports?

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  29. NICE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NICE page!

  30. No Bloat - FreeBSD by nurb432 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It will also be happier with the 64mb you have...

    Most any current mainstream linux distro will choke on you. Which is sad.

    FreeBSD is a lot less resource hungry, and you will be happier with its performance, and manageability.

    Oh, wait, i didnt support 'linux', i guess that means ill get modded down. oh well..

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  31. Too many distro?!? by giacomo-b · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's quite a pity to see all these distros... the opensource communit is wasting a lot of efforts on reinventing one hundred times the same things...

    I know that this will never happen but why not focus on a "server distro", on a "desktop distro" and on a "minimalistic distro" rather than developing hundreds of clones of themselves?!?

    1. Re:Too many distro?!? by DoktorSeven · · Score: 1

      Because if you don't like the way The Distro does things, you have... oh, what's it called, don't tell me... it's on the tip...

      CHOICE?!?!?!?!!

      *sigh* kids these days... *grumble*

      (and hey, Slashdot, your "confirm you're not a script" is UNREADABLE. If I get this post out, it'll be amazing since I cannot figure out what a couple of the letters are thanks to the hard squiggles all over. How stupid...)

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    2. Re:Too many distro?!? by poofyhairguy82 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I know that this will never happen but why not focus on a "server distro", on a "desktop distro" and on a "minimalistic distro" rather than developing hundreds of clones of themselves?!?

      This always gets modded insightful, but the truth is that the posts lacks a careful insight. The reason why Linux won't unify is because their is many more different needs for OSes beyond "server" and "desktop." Embedded systems need an OS, firewalls need an OS, low end desktops need an OS, high end desktops and workstations need an OS, web servers need an OS, servers needed for specific venders software needs an OS, Joe Users needs an OS if it helps his ego. For each of these uses for an OS (and more) there is a least one Linux based OS serving the need.

      The closest thing the Windows world has for many of these things is older versions of the OSes. Linux is just a kernel used in many more ways than I can imagine. Each distro is its own OS (based on Linux) and so the problem is that there might be too many OSes since Linux came around. And that might be true if you fear choice....

    3. Re:Too many distro?!? by Vaevictis666 · · Score: 1
      For each of these uses for an OS (and more) there is a least one Linux based OS serving the need.

      Your parent poster's point. Why can't we get a single distro for Joe User, a single distro for techie workstation (though yes, we'll get three: Gnome, KDE, Other) rather than having to pick between a handful of Gnome-based desktop distros, a handful of KDE-based desktop distros....

      Choice is one thing, but with all the people available working towards one thing, you free up a lot of duplicated maintenance/integration effort that can be freed to actual developments and improvements.

    4. Re:Too many distro?!? by dago · · Score: 1

      well, not just opensource,let's have a look at all the actual (= supported) Microsoft OS

      - Windows Millenium Edition
      - Windows 2000 Professional
      - Windows 2000 Server
      - Windows 2000 Advanced Server
      - Windows 2000 Datacenter Server
      - Small Business Server 2000
      - Windows XP Home
      - Windows XP Starter
      - Windows XP N
      - Windows XP Pro
      - Windows XP Pro x86-64
      - Windows XP Media Center
      - Windows XP Tablet PC
      - Windows XP Embedded
      - Windows NT 4.0 Embedded
      - Windows CE 3.0
      - Windows CE .NET 4.x
      - Windows CE 5.0
      - Windows Mobile
      - Windows 2003 Standard
      - Windows 2003 Enterprise
      - Windows 2003 Web
      - Windows 2003 Data Center
      - Windows 2003 x86-64
      - Windows Storage Server 2003
      - Small Business Server 2003
      - Windows 2003 R2 (dev)
      - Longhorn (dev)

      That's 28 different "distributions" onto which microsoft is actually spending some effort on.

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    5. Re:Too many distro?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There aren't that many Joe User distros... or are you counting gentoo? ;) Mandriva, Redhat, Suse, they aren't all that different either.

  32. Confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The editorial system here...

    Editorial system? On Slashdot?

    You must be new here.

  33. Re:Is this off-topic? So many flavors? by elementalist · · Score: 1

    Your wife has clearly been bought off by microsoft!

    Out of the box support for that bleeding edge hardware may have been poor. I have gotten fedora to unrecoverable states before.

    Why not just dual boot with XP? That way you can screw around with other OS's without inteerupting your wife's computing needs.

  34. Oh, the irony by Jicksta · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did anyone else notice that the homepage uses Windows XP's Internet Explorer home button icon between the distro's name and its respective website?

    From site: http://www.linuxisotorrent.com/images/home.gif
    IE screenshot: http://searchy.protecus.de/en/address_bar_search.g if

    Apparently LinuxISOtorrent.com doesn't share the same philosophies which propels the software it indirectly hosts.

    I wonder how much money they've made off this slashdotting from advertising? Pffft.

    1. Re:Oh, the irony by goldenratiophi · · Score: 1

      No. The one on http://www.linuxisotorrent.com/ is smaller. They may look similar, but diff says they're different: " diff home.gif address_bar_search.gif Binary files home.gif and address_bar_search.gif differ"

    2. Re:Oh, the irony by Entropy_ah · · Score: 1

      Apparently LinuxISOtorrent.com doesn't share the same philosophies which propels the software it indirectly hosts.

      So you're determining the web site's philosophies from an icon they use?

      Take a chill pill dude.

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    3. Re:Oh, the irony by idonthack · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's gone now. References to it are even removed from the page source. I guess they noticed your comment.

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    4. Re:Oh, the irony by Jicksta · · Score: 1

      Hahahaha!

      Oh, the sweet smell of triumph!

      Yeah, I sent the webmaster a not-so-friendly email. Apparently he got it. :)

  35. I thought it said "Find Linus Torvalds" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    whew.

    Good to know they didn't helicopter/tranq/gps-tag Linus.

    Way to elude them BigGuy.

  36. Holy Crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can actually get Linux ISOs as torrents? This is like finding out that women actually powder themselves in the 'powder room'.

  37. Communist by halr9000 · · Score: 1

    Knowing this place, that bit about communism is probably true. Or maybe socialist. ;)

  38. Something nobody seems to have pointed out yet... by iantri · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ... is that this is an *EXCELLENT* example of what BitTorrent is for; that is to say, not for distributing pirates movies/games/music, but for reducing bandwidth load on servers.

    Next time the media does a story on the "illegal file-trading site BitTorrent", you can point to this and say, "See? It really has little to do with that at all.."

  39. But...!!!! by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    Torrents are evil. What about the copyright holders? Clearly Linux developers, musicians, filmmakers and little penguins are being starved to death by wanton, shameless downloading of distro ISOs off of bittorrents. Western civilization will fall, the Communist scourge will return, and our women will find themselves being prostituted out. Our children won't have quality entertainment like Britney Spears and Metallica.

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  40. Re:You insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which ISP is that?

  41. Linux distro recommendations by typical · · Score: 1

    I was asking questions on www.linuxquestions.org, but nobody could help me even though I posted all of the error messages and problems, so they recommend I try another version of Linux.

    Often a blame-shifting problem. If nobody present is sure what to do, recommending "another distro" is a popular way to avoid staining Linux's reputation. (And this is coming from someone who doesn't own any Windows computers.) There are good reasons to choose particular distros, but if you are looking for a general-purpose distribution and someone is recommending switching distros to solve a particular problem, and you're already using one of the mainstream distros (Fedora, Debian, SuSE, Mandriva....), then they are not giving you good advice. It should be quite possible to get things working on your distro.

    I'd recommend trying an appropriate Linux Usenet newsgroup for help, and if you know what software package is breaking, the mailing list or IRC channel for that software package. I've been unimpressed with a number of general Linux web forums -- there are so many web forums that the degree of expertise on them is spread very thin, and it seems to be a large number of new folks that are just getting things up and running.

    You shouldn't need to recompile anything to get Fedora working again. The days of recompiles solving things are pretty much in the past -- this was mainly an issue back before everyone started using modular kernels, and folks had to recompile their kernels when they added hardware.

    This site illustrates one of the problems with Linux that most regular users would have. How do you pick one of these? How do you compare them all and say "That one has the features I need". It looks like there is at least 50+ different distros. Do you have to click on each little site info graphic just to learn about them? It is just too confusing to know which one to use, and I'm a computer programmer with a decent amount of computer skills. I'd hate to see what poor Aunt Mable or Grandma would think if they saw that list.

    The typical "default choice" that I'd probably recommend would be Fedora. It has wide deployment and thus is the distro most likely to be supported by any binary-only software, and most likely to be well-tested with a given application. It isn't as radically Free as Debian, but it's in the close second-tier -- RH does a number of things that aren't in their own interest but promotes the use of Free software, like including Mozilla instead of Netscape before it was really ready, or including ogg support instead of mp3 support. Fedora is probably not the best choice if you already know that prefer KDE to Gnome, since Red Hat puts more work into Gnome than KDE.

    Debian is probably best for folks who want to work on a maximally community-oriented system, where as many people as possible are volunteer contributors.

    For off-CD, no-hard-drive-installation running, Knoppix seems to have pretty much taken over -- I don't look at SuperRescue any more when I want to do rescue work.

    Everyone has their own preferences, of course, and biases based on what they use. I can only give what reflects my own. :-)

    * I don't like SuSE, because they seem to have moved a little too far away from the Free ideology, from an interview with their CEO that I read. I remember Ransom Love doing this, and what ensued. Also, I'm not thrilled with their actions (like delaying distribution of ISOs for new distro releases until after they've sold commercial copies for a while).

    * I don't know what the story is with Mandrake (well, Mandriva these days). They kept chugging along for a long time. I've never used them, but they used to be my recommendation for people that wanted "Red Hat, but with a KDE focus".

    * Periodically, I think about looking at Gentoo (I don't have much reason to go to the effort of switching distros, but it'd be interesting to try installing it sometime I'm just setting up a throwaway Linux box to wor

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    1. Re:Linux distro recommendations by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 1
      * Periodically, I think about looking at Gentoo (I don't have much reason to go to the effort of switching distros, but it'd be interesting to try installing it sometime I'm just setting up a throwaway Linux box to work on) but I've run into a tremendous amount of idiocy from a segment of the Gentoo user population that has really turned me off it. Also, one of the claims-to-fame of Gentoo is the "we can rebuild everything for more speed" point, which is really a non-issue -- a very, very small number of packages are worth recompiling for a particular architecture, and the degree to which you run into annoying bugs with packages that are expecting a particular padding or whatnot makes it, IMHO, not a worthwhile approach.

      I may be somewhat biased as I'm posting from Gentoo currently, but I agree with you that the "recompile everything for speed" theory that some associate with Gentoo doesn't hold much value. At the same time, I think the number of people who actually use Gentoo for this reason are a minority.

      You mentioned that some of the people you've encountered using Gentoo have turned you off of it, but in my experiences, the Gentoo Forums are an awesome resource to which I've yet to find an equal.

      The main reason I use Gentoo is for portage, it really is that good. I was lured in by quick, painless updates to everything, and it's everything that I expected it to be and more. I run an emerge --sync and emerge -uD world once a day and all my software is updated -- awesome. I was using Mandrake before and was often frustrated that I had to wait ~6 months between software updates (excluding security updates), or I'd have to go out and install all of the new software separately, which IMO is far from ideal. Also, the included software on the CDs for Mandrake is good, but it pales in comparison to what's available in portage. I'm running stable (x86) and have noticed that all of the software is extremely stable (hence the nomenclature I guess) and well tested, which is always a plus. There is still ~x86 for packages still in testing though.

      Really, I can't say enough good things about portage. Highly recommended.

  42. torrents to amd64 linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone care to point me toward a good amd-64 linux distro that I can snag via BT? I was hoping I could use Mandrake's 64-bit disto, but it seems to be vaporware.

    What are people running on their amd64s? Please provide good torrent links.

    1. Re:torrents to amd64 linux? by Triffid_Hunter · · Score: 1

      gentoo has decent amd64 support.. its not great, but its as far as its gotten.. they also have install cds primarily as torrents ;)

    2. Re:torrents to amd64 linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ubuntu 64

  43. There is also... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  44. Leeching from The Linux Mirror Project by phoebe · · Score: 5, Interesting
    None of the torrent files are actually hosted on linuxisotorrent.com, and more importantly most are from "The Linux Mirror Project" which performs exactly the same purpose - torrents for Linux distributions.

    A concern is that there is no credit to "The Linux Mirror Project" for any of their work in providing the torrents, its only a couple of static files on a webserver and a revenue stream from the google adverts on the side.

    1. Re:Leeching from The Linux Mirror Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      like google ads provide a stream of anything...

      There IS credit given to two sites - TLMP and nat.dyndns.org.

  45. Linux Torrent Sites by mandy2tom · · Score: 1

    How many are there I made and posted my first torrent here http://linuxtracker.org/ how many sites can we list to make use of my idle bandwidth I seed linux torrents and other legal stuff like 10,000 free legal books http://www.gutenberg.org/ http://www.gutenberg.org/cdproject/ http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu:6969/ use you spare bandwidth to help the World torrents are like guns its how you use it that counts!

    1. Re:Linux Torrent Sites by mandy2tom · · Score: 1

      well its my first post. I should have used the preview option. my mistake. The forms I used before let me edit my mistakes after posting.

  46. Obvious question... by Cheerio+Boy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What happens to this site when people start hiding complete movies in 5gig "ISO" torrents.

    For instance a complete install of SUSE in DVD form is several gig in size. What's to stop someone from hiding a movie renamed as that?

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    1. Re:Obvious question... by Danger+Stevens · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What happens is people who waited three days for a Suse disc go hunt down the loser who kept them from getting the sweetest Linux distro around. Most of these folks are people who'd much play around on a new OS than watch Gigli.

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  47. not the only show in town... by torrents · · Score: 1


    our site also lists linux torrents (as well as others) and their stats... there are also a number of other sites dealing in f/oss that do torrent listings...

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  48. Re:You insensitive clod! by natmakarvitch · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://ikarios.com/bt/ documents http://nat.dyndns.org/, which seeds many torrents. this is not JAET (Just Another Empty Tracker): all downloadable files are present. moreover there are many rare files HTTP access via port 80 and the tracker on a high port (51181) enjoy and if you have some resources please let your client seed after the download

  49. Sad Comment by battamer · · Score: 1

    This kind of comment scares me, if the MPAA is able to infiltrate the common conciousness to the extent that you need to consider them before downloading anything then... jeez, this just makes me depressed.

  50. Re:Is this off-topic? So many flavors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had problems when I upgraded my computer and couldn't get FC3 running again, even after a full recompile.

    It is just too confusing to know which one to use, and I'm a computer programmer with a decent amount of computer skills.

    You are a computer programmer, and yet you mix up the terms "full recompile" and "full reinstall"? I call shenanigans.

  51. The Linux Mirrror Project deserves a mention too by MCRocker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nice, but what about the BitTorrent Linux Mirror Project? They've been around for a while now. I think they at least deserve a mention, though they do kind of break the real advantage of BitTorrent, by re-hosting torrents. For low demand projects, this might actually make things worse.

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  52. SLES by killtherat · · Score: 1

    Darn, still no dice.
    I've been looking for the ISOs for Suse Linux Enterprise Edition 9, SP1. Nobody seems very interested in distributing them.
    Can I help it if I like a professional distro? (I guess it's a bit like falling for professional women...)

    1. Re:SLES by SammyTheSnake · · Score: 1

      Assuming these are legally downloadable / redistributable, you could just tell me where I can get them via FTP or whatever and I'll set up a torrent. I currently have bandwidth to spare...

      HTH
      Sam "SammyTheSnake" Penny

  53. Re:The Linux Mirrror Project deserves a mention to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They do give credit under their logo

  54. Why use torrents? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can understand using a P2P program for downloading copyrighted material unavailable elsewhere, but why use one to obtain material slower than just a straight ftp or http download?

  55. Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For slashdotting and the like.

  56. not OT - look at link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Way to go, moderators. Great job as always.

  57. Re:Is this off-topic? So many flavors? by rinkjustice · · Score: 1

    I'd hate to see what poor Aunt Mable or Grandma would think if they saw that list.

    Actually, Aunt Mable is reasonably well off. Her retirement pension from being a school teacher for 23 years is rather generous, and besides, she sells drugs on the side. As for Grandma, she's dead, rest her soul. You haven't heard?

  58. Re:Is this off-topic? So many flavors? by pembo13 · · Score: 1

    In future, when using Fedora, check http://fedoraforum.org/

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  59. thanks! by ggogeta · · Score: 1

    Just wanted to thank the guy who posted this little treasure... THANKS! :D

  60. Vector good by AussieVamp2 · · Score: 0

    I agree, ran very nicely on a partition on a 64MB/400Mhz machine (Standard, not SOHO version) a while back.

  61. and google already does it faster, and better... by kesuki · · Score: 1

    Slackware
    gentoo
    debian
    mandrake

    Just use a simple filetype:torrent "search string including distro name, platform compatabily(where applicable), and version information(if needed)"

    Google ranks the most popular site's torrents first, so you should get the fastest downloads with the top most results... If you want information about distros you're better off going to distrowatch, or some other site that specilizes in provding information about distros...

    Google isn't going out of buisness, even if the site that had those torrents listed does, so you can bookmark a 'basic' search like the ones I listed above and 'load them' everytime you hear about a new release on your favorite distro etc..
    your mileage may vary, but if you're looking for a specific torrent, google is going to be way faster than any 'browse through all the content that doesn't interest you' type site.

    This is as the parent realized just a simple ad, for YAN torrent linking site, such sites are a dime a dozen around the net. It seems like there are about 120 popular sites that link torrents regularly, so this is clearly just an ad for YAN one of those sites, and since they probably don't host a tracker, they're probably doing nothing but taking attention away from the sites that do.

  62. same idea as by marafa · · Score: 1
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  63. The Linux Mirror Project by waynegoode · · Score: 1

    The Linux Mirror Project is a similar site that has been around for awhile.