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Apple Switching to Intel

Steve Jobs announced at the WWDC keynote today that Apple is switching to Intel processors. MacNN has live coverage. The bottom line is that Mac OS X for the last five years has been running on Intel, the switch is expected to be complete in two years, and Rosetta will allow PPC apps to run on Intel-based Macs, transparently. If you're using Xcode, it is small changes and a recompile; otherwise, you might be seeing a lot of work ahead of you. You will be able to order the 10.4.1 preview for Intel today.

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  1. Have a taste... by wankledot · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's crow. Eat up. (I'll have to eat my share too.)

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    1. Re:Have a taste... by Otter · · Score: 5, Funny

      No time for that now! I have to work up my new explanation of why CISC is better than RISC, MMX is better than AltiVec and only an idiot would ever think otherwise!

    2. Re:Have a taste... by m50d · · Score: 5, Funny
      I felt something, a disturbance in the network, as if a million mac zealots cried out in horror and were suddenly silenced

      Sorry, just seemed appropriate.

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    3. Re:Have a taste... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, because NO one replaces hardware after 2 years.

      (desperately trying not to think about the dual 2gh g5 I bought in May)

    4. Re:Have a taste... by mr_c0w · · Score: 2, Funny

      Intel + Mac = IMac

    5. Re:Have a taste... by TheOldCrow · · Score: 5, Funny

      That is no iMac. It is a workstation.

    6. Re:Have a taste... by Mibrilane · · Score: 5, Funny

      You can't win. But, there are alternatives to fighting...

    7. Re:Have a taste... by magicclams · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oceania is at war with Eurasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia. Eastasia has always been our only ally. Submit to Doublethink. Steve Jobs commands it.

    8. Re:Have a taste... by The_K4 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Intel + Mac = IMac

      I prefer Mac + Intel = Mattel.

    9. Re:Have a taste... by plj · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, that only happens after if Jobs would announce that Apple is ditching OS X for Windows.

      This only caused the I/O of some geeks to choke up due to wrong endianness. But for most Mac users the network flows as calm as ever.

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    10. Re:Have a taste... by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1, Funny

      i had no idea that every ethernet card on the planet (each one has a MAC as you probably well know) had a PowerPC on it. that means that the PPC has a penetration similar to the x86!!!!! yay!

      oh wait, you were talking about Apple Macintosh (abbreviated Mac)computers... nevermind.

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    11. Re:Have a taste... by Pope · · Score: 4, Funny

      PPC people drive like THIS, while x86 people drive like HTSI.

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    12. Re:Have a taste... by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny
      And with an open source kernel, how, exactly, do they plan to stop people from hacking OS X onto commodity PC hardware?

      Lawyers?

    13. Re:Have a taste... by Bo+Lindbergh · · Score: 3, Funny

      Quoth plj: This only caused the I/O of some geeks to choke up due to wrong endianness.

      You mean you missed the announcement about the new big-endian Pentiums?

  2. Holy crap. by outZider · · Score: 4, Funny

    Man, it is cold in hell today. Brr. :P

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    1. Re:Holy crap. by FenwayFrank · · Score: 5, Funny
      we are now living in the evil mirror universe

      I'll believe that when the Red Sox win the World Series!

    2. Re:Holy crap. by daeley · · Score: 5, Funny

      we are now living in the evil mirror universe

      I'll believe that when the Red Sox win the World Series!


      Yeah, right -- that's about as likely as finding out who Deep Throat is.

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    3. Re:Holy crap. by Zildy · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Like Fermat's theorem, it's a puzzle we may never solve" - Captain Jean-Luc Picard

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    4. Re:Holy crap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, Right after Microsoft shippes Power PC Apple machines as Dev tools for their next Xbox.

    5. Re:Holy crap. by BranMan · · Score: 3, Funny
      Yeah, right -- that's about as likely as finding out who Deep Throat is.

      Or finding Jimmy Hoffa's body.

      [drumming fingers on desk, waiting for the announcement]

    6. Re:Holy crap. by noogen · · Score: 3, Funny
      we are now living in the evil mirror universe

      I'll believe that when the Red Sox win the World Series!

      Yeah, right -- that's about as likely as finding out who Deep Throat is

      These things are as likely to happen as Bush winning a second term

    7. Re:Holy crap. by Captain+Zion · · Score: 5, Funny
      Yeah, right -- that's about as likely as finding out who Deep Throat is.
      Or Debian releasing a new stable.
    8. Re:Holy crap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Why is it not under http://www.apple.com/switch/

    9. Re:Holy crap. by Bamafan77 · · Score: 2, Funny
  3. I love it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Mac enthusiasts spouted off about the superiority of their favourite computing architecture, and now Apple is switching to Intel.

  4. Um by suso · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are you sure [y/N]?

    1. Re:Um by Refrag · · Score: 4, Funny

      n n n n n n n n n N N N

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    2. Re:Um by mausmalone · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thank you for choosing Y. Now porting to x86 archetecture.........

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  5. Not that big of a surprise by stlhawkeye · · Score: 4, Funny
    Let's see, first I said, about 4 years ago, "There will be a color iPod soon." And everybody told me, "No way, that'd be stupid and pointless." The translation from Defensivegeek into English is, "I hope not, or I won't have the coolest, latest toy any more to lord over my friends!"

    I also have been agreeing with the industry analysts who said Apple would be running on Intel chips before long, and I've been vindicated.

    Now, if my prediction that Microsoft will have a Linux or other UNIX-like kernel in Windows by 2015 holds up I'll consider myself the Nostradomus of IT.

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  6. It sure does hure.... by de+Bois-Guilbert · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...when huge monkeys come flying out of ones ass...

  7. Allow me to speak for everybody: by mrpuffypants · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fuck.

    1. Re:Allow me to speak for everybody: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Allow me to speak for everybody else:

      HA-HA!

    2. Re:Allow me to speak for everybody: by gone6713 · · Score: 2, Funny


      I saw someone make a prediction of what would happen if Apple switched to x86.

      If Steve Jobs stands on the stage at the Worldwide Developers Conference and announces Apple's moving to x86, Satan will rise up from the underworld and devour the souls of every innocent puppy and kitten. And then emit the fart that ends the world. This is, of course, completely unlikely to happen, as we all know Satan prefers chunky peanut butter to the souls of small animals.

      I haven't been smelling anything funny, have you.

  8. Dave Thorup, eat your hat! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somebody send this guy some Worcestershire sauce. I hear it goes well with felt.

  9. Please do not... by SeanTobin · · Score: 3, Funny
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    PLEASE DO NOT OVERLOAD OUR SERVERS.
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  10. Re:This is bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    dude, you must either type like 200 words per minute or you had that already written up obituary style lol

  11. Yeah, nice, but ... by Nice2Cats · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...did he say anything about a two-button mouse?

  12. Re:Switching ends? by Pike · · Score: 3, Funny


    if(CPU_TYPE == INTEL) {

    transparently_handle_endian_issues(filehandle); // thank you very much

    } else {

    use_old_endian_issues(filehandle);

    }

  13. Re:So when can I get a copy? by generic-man · · Score: 4, Funny

    It'll be available about 30 seconds after DVD-Jon releases a patch to install Mac OS X on any Dell, and it will be withdrawn about 30 seconds later after Apple mobilizes all Mac OS X 10.4 machines into a botnet to DDOS the living crap out of any server which serves a copy of said patch.

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  14. In Soviet Russia by zephc · · Score: 4, Funny

    Macs run on Intel and Microsoft uses PowerPC! What a country!

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  15. Collect on all that debt, baby! by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh this is so exciting.

    Over the years, I've made a ton of bets with Mac fans who swore up and down that Apple would never, ever switch to Intel processors.

    I am now owed several kegs of beer and some free fancy dinners. A couple people owe me a million bucks.

    Business strategy:

    1. Make wagers with Apple people.
    2. ...
    3. Profit! Steve Jobs will make the announcement for you.

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    1. Re:Collect on all that debt, baby! by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 1, Funny
      Over the years, I've made a ton of bets with Mac fans who swore up and down that Apple would never, ever switch to Intel processors... I am now owed several kegs of beer and some free fancy dinners. A couple people owe me a million bucks.

      And you've been dead wrong, over the years, until today. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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  16. Just to make sure I'm understanding this... by Moskie · · Score: 2, Funny

    Jobs demonstrated a version of Mac OS X running on a 3.6GHz Pentium 4-processor equipped system, running a build of Mac OS X v10.4.1. He showed Dashboard widgets, Spotlight, iCal, Apple's Mail, Safari and iPhoto all working on the Intel-based system.

    That means that I will be able to 100% natively tri-boot Windows/Linux/OSX on the same rig? I cannot wait to do that.

    I believe that's called having your cake, eating it too, and not having to clean up.

  17. Re:This is bullshit. by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 4, Funny

    Little endian makes Baby Jesus cry.

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  18. Here's some help for the Mac Fanatics by syntap · · Score: 2, Funny

    from http://bertc.com/three_crows.htm :

    Crow Pie:

    1 crow
    stuffing of your choice
    salt and pepper
    shortening
    flour
    2 Pie crust mixes
    2-3 hard-boiled eggs

    Stuff the crow. Loosen joints with a knife but do not cut through.
    Simmer the crow in a stew-pan, with enough water to cover, until nearly tender, then season with salt and pepper. Remove meat from bones and set aside.
    Prepare pie crusts as directed. (Do not bake)
    Make a medium thick gravy with flour, shortening, and juices in which the crow has cooked and let cool.
    Line a pie plate with pie crust and line with slices of hard-boiled egg. Place crow meat on top. Layer gravy over the crow. Place second pie dough crust over top.
    Bake at 450 degrees for 1/2 hour.

    Collected by Bert Christensen
    Toronto, Ontario

  19. Re:This is bullshit. by cosmo7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    for(int *p=0;;*(p++)=0)

    As soon as this completes I'll know exactly what it does!

  20. Re:Apple getting out of hardware? by snolan · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll be buying them up like crazy. 5 years from now everyone will want the last of the Macs that actually worked, and had no mat errors and no overheating problems. ;-)

  21. It had to be said. by Durandal64 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new Intel overlords.

  22. Re:IBM Screwjob by mihalis · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now, the question is... what will the new platform be called? Certainly not PowerMac...

    Power Efficient Mac?

  23. Re:-5 WRONG! READ THE KEYNOTE! by geniusj · · Score: 4, Funny

    The preview includes the computer itself. A 3.6GHz P4. "Read the keynote"

    -JD-

  24. Re:IBM Screwjob by Attila · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mac + i386 = iMac

    Oh, wait...

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  25. 503'd! by CarrionBird · · Score: 3, Funny
    /. /.s itself, Felt is deep throat, Apple goes pentium.

    What's the fourth horseman???

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    1. Re:503'd! by anonicon · · Score: 2, Funny

      " /. /.s itself, Felt is deep throat, Apple goes pentium. What's the fourth horseman???"

      Debian Sarge was released as a stable build today. You can see it on Slashdot's front page. :-)

  26. Re:Worst part about this? by ultramk · · Score: 2, Funny

    As my father used to say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    Doesn't matter, he's still an asshole. (Dvorak, not my dad.)

    m-

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  27. Last Words of A Mac Hardware Zealot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Blah blah blah Altivec blah blah blah Power PC blah blah blah megahertz myth blah blah blah....

    eep!

  28. A few observations by northcat · · Score: 2, Funny
    From here:
    The company says that running Mac OS X for x86 requires a special boot ROM that locks the new OS to Apple branded hardware.
    Interesting.

    "We didn't buy that "MHz Myth" stuff any more than our customers did," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "The Velocity Engine is just so much pipe smoke, and it was time to hook ourselves up with the real power in the computing world, Intel."

    "It has been embarrassing to run those highly specialized Photoshop® bake-offs to try and say that the G4 was faster than the Pentium® line, and now this way we don't have to," said Phil Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing.

    Interesting still. The article goes on to editorialise:
    It's even more interesting that Apple would come right out and declare its own marketing ploys like the MHz Myth to be so much baloney. You wouldn't think the company's execs would do that, would you?
  29. So what are we gona test new binaries on? by cfish · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean, developers can buy the transition kit today, compile the new binary for the weekend, and wait for one year til the first intel based mac to test it next June?

    That's brilliant!

  30. Re:This is bullshit. by pomo+monster · · Score: 2, Funny

    You misspelled "Phil fucking Schiller."

    Har har.

  31. Mandatory 1984 quote by JonTurner · · Score: 5, Funny

    My apologies to Mr. Orwell, but it must be done:

    At this moment, for example, in 2005 (if it was 2005), Apple was at war with Motorola and in alliance with Intel. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Apple had been at war with Intel and in alliance with Motorola. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Apple was at war with Motorola: therefore Apple had always been at war with Motorola. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible.

  32. Re:No fear! by Surt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Even worse, as long as we're admitting stuff, the boxes weren't all that shiny!

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  33. reader's digest condensed version by rubycodez · · Score: 2, Funny

    Steve Jobs ventures forth from Apple to make startup NeXT. Steve dumps proprietary NeXT architecture and ports NeXSTep to beige box PC, killing off NeXT. Steve returns to Apple with much fanfare, and does his trick again by killing Mac by porting OS X to beige box processors. Meanwhile, Sun Microsystems tries to pull a half-assed Steve Jobs, and fails with *two* architectures. HP pulls double-assed Steve Jobs with reverse twist porting HP/UX, NonStop, and VMS to Itanium and kills market for all three!

  34. Re:This is bullshit. by pomo+monster · · Score: 2, Funny

    They take after their CEO that way.

  35. Inversion by (H)olyGeekboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    So basically, in 18 months:

    Microsoft will be shipping PowerMacs based on IBM PowerPC processors to developers who are programming on the Xbox360 platform, and

    Apple will be shipping PowerMacs running OS X, based on Intel processors, to consumers.

    Tell my wife I loved her and sorry about the brains on the monitor, because MY HEAD ASPLODE! :)

  36. last post! by ch-chuck · · Score: 3, Funny

    In 2007, Apple announces they will be phasing out OS X and installing Windows XP (or Longhorn) on all future shipments.

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  37. Re:Saddening. by Boronx · · Score: 3, Funny

    I value ingenuity. I value openness. Most importantly, I value liberty.

    That sounds more like a free operating system running on commodetized parts.

  38. Re:IBM forcing this? by hayden · · Score: 4, Funny
    But behind the scenes Steve Jobs is cursing IBM.
    I can see why Steve didn't blow up in public about this. Because he's usually such a restrained guy.
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  39. Re:Apple Computer - WORLD CLASS MANAGEMENT by Barto · · Score: 2, Funny

    Phil Schiller? Is that you?

  40. Re:Saddening. by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Get this man more cool-aid, stat!

  41. Re:You can have my PowerPC... by FullCircle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unless your hands are water cooled I doubt they get cold.

    Heat output was one of the reasons for switching to x86 in the first place.

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  42. Re:MHz is meaningless by dfghjk · · Score: 2, Funny

    love it when you talk technical. your logic is inescapable...

  43. H*ll froze over? by Akimotos · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apple switched to Intel ...

    Debian finally releases Sarge.

    It would have been a perfect day if Duke Nukem' Forever was also launched today ... or something.

    1. Re:H*ll froze over? by klang · · Score: 2, Funny

      The best rapper is white.
      The best golfer is black.
      The French calls the Americans arogant.
      The Germans don't want to go to war.
      Switzerland won the world championship in sailing. .. and a Mac has a "Intel inside" sticker

      The world is truely comming to an end.

      Yes, I would definately go look for Duke Nuke'em Forever!

  44. Well...here's my list then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I guess just about anything can happen now that Intel and Apple are shacking up. My predictions on the years to come are as follows:

    1. The planet Uranus will be renamed Urectum (per Futurama)
    2. Concrete will be made from a mixture of water and shit instead of water and stone.
    3. Hilary Clinton will become the next U.S. President *shudders*
    4. The Earth will turn black
    5. The beast will turn pale
    6. The seas will turn red
    7. The air will turn to poison (is this sounding at all familiar?)
    8. Martin Lawrence will be given another sitcom
    9. Rosanne will be considered the sexiest woman alive
    10. I will get laid
    11. Someone will come out with a good-tasting, low-calorie, caffinee free soda
    12. Speaking of which, Diet Dr. Pepper will ACTUALLY taste like regular Dr. Pepper.
    13. We will find out that light bulbs are, in fact, "dark-suckers" as per the old Internet gag article
    14. Canada will become the 51st state
    15. They will stop making light beer (FUCK YOU LIGHT BEER)
    16. Bill Gates will come out of the closet
    17. I'm just going to stop there...you get the idea...

  45. Just 31 more posts until HoF! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Let's go for it!

  46. A post in the masses. by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Any moderator who moderates me must have no life what so ever to find a post in the mist of 3000 posts. Filled with disterbed zealots from both sides. As Nelson puts it. HA HA

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