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Treo 650 Hacked: Dial-Up Networking via Bluetooth

Posted by timothy on from the smartly dept.

AndersBrownworth writes "The standard Treo 650 doesn't support Dial-Up Networking over Bluetooth, but Shadowmite figured out that they just hid the option, so he hacked up an un-crippled version. Trevor Harmon shows you how to get DUN over Bluetooth working and now my new PowerBook can get on the net from anywhere!"

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  1. Obsolete by cyklus · · Score: 5, Informative

    New official update for Treo 650: http://www.palmone.com/us/support/downloads/treo65 0updater/sprint.html

  2. This is news, how? by rufo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, Shadowmite hacked DUN. About 8 months ago.

    Also, all unlocked GSM Treos have had this capability from day one, and Sprint just released a firmware update that officially enables this capability in all Sprint Treos... so how is this news, exactly?

    --
    My English teacher once told me that two positives don't make a negative. Two words for her: Yeah, right.
  3. Treo 600 / T-Mobile... by faedle · · Score: 1

    Anybody ever had any luck getting a Treo 600 working on T-Mobile for data as a modem?

    I know there's a third-party app, but I could never get it to work for me...

    1. Re:Treo 600 / T-Mobile... by Shwag · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yah, I got the 3rd party app to work no problem whatsoever. You have to subscribe to the tmobile unlimited internet service. I think its like $29.99 a month.

    2. Re:Treo 600 / T-Mobile... by faedle · · Score: 1

      Which one?

      I'm using Mac, so I have to use WirelessModem. No matter what I did, I couldn't get it to work.. and there's no documentation to speak of for T-Mobile...

    3. Re:Treo 600 / T-Mobile... by Shwag · · Score: 1

      PdaNet

  4. Scavenging relevance by gunner800 · · Score: 1

    Notwithstanding the non-need for a hack, is the Treo 650 any good? I've been thinking of getting one.

    I don't need a lot of fanciness, just a working phone and convenient PDA in one unit.

    1. Re:Scavenging relevance by v3rgEz · · Score: 1, Informative

      Just got a Treo 600 3 days ago. It seems to have everything you want: working phone and the pda essentials. It ain't as pretty as my old Axim, but it's a lot more efficient with the built in keyboard, got a crappy little camera which is good for taking pictures of stuff you need to rememember (I'm a reporter with a terrible memory), and it's got an EXCELLENT navigation system that basically makes the touchscreen pointless (trust me, that's a good thing). QWERTY takes about 4 seconds to get warmed up to, then you'll be typing away fast. Can strain you after a while, but great for short messages, notes, and even doc editing.

      Last thing I'm working on is getting it synced with my Ubuntu box, which although difficult appears to be possible.

      I'd say it's very worth it.

    2. Re:Scavenging relevance by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      No, it's bug-riddled and unstable. The newest firmware does not fix the memory allocation problem just makes it different. If you enjoy wiping your phone clean one a week and restoring it to cover up firmware bugs then the 650 is the phone for you.

    3. Re:Scavenging relevance by micahmicahmicah · · Score: 1

      I have it from sprint. It's like any other palm device, not perfect - but you learn how to work around it. If you find the phone resetting, just remove the last stuff you installed. I sync everyday at home, and at work - so it's not a big deal for me.

      What I love about my treo 650
      camera phone & video phone (good for caller ID, and great shots of friends boobs - I don't argue, I just enjoy)
      NES, GG, PCE, etc. EMULATORS
      mp3, avi, mpeg, divx, etc playback
      converter - if you have a palm, you need this app
      mRing (mp3 ringtones)
      Bluetooth - great in a movie theatre before the show - someone always has a BT phone close by.

      Modem speed is ok, good enough to VNC to my home box when I need to or just get bored.

      On an average day - I play some NES games, chat on AIM (verichat), listen to mp3's, VNC home to check downloads, check email, check www.myspace.com for new messages, and I think that's it.

      I also recommend picking up a penstylus

    4. Re:Scavenging relevance by bonehead · · Score: 1

      I've had a Treo 650 for about 3 months now.

      I agree, it's a great little PDA/phone combo. The keyboard is great, in fact on a recent business trip I did all of my e-mail from the Treo and never bothered firing up the laptop. I wouldn't want to type long documents on it, but I was truly amazed at how quickly that little keyboard becomes second nature. It's light years ahead of any handwriting recognition scheme I've ever used on a PDA.

      The camera is only 640x480, but the pics are good enough that I very rarely find myself carrying my "real" camera anymore. Most of the snapshots I take just don't require 6 megapixels.

      Personally, I'd recommend getting one through Sprint. Compare their data prices to those from Verizon to see why. They're the only two carriers with decent coverage in my area, so I haven't checked the others. Cingular may have some good deals, too, I don't know.

      It is more bulky than a normal phone, though, so if the PDA features and Internet access from anywhere in the country don't interest you, then the Treo probably isn't for you.

      My only complaint is that the speakerphone isn't loud enough to really be useable, but a bluetooth headset makes that a non-issue.

    5. Re:Scavenging relevance by jht · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've had mine for a couple of weeks, and I like it. A lot. I had a lot of trouble with it the first couple of days, until I weeded out all the incompatible cruft that had accumulated from all the software I had on my old Palm Tungsten T (which in turn had everything from prior Palms I've owned over the years). A few warm reboots and removed apps/patches later, it's very solid, only requiring one reset over the last week (an AvantGo sync locked it up). That, to me, is about average for a Palm nowadays, so the Treo is typical. Yes, it's bigger than my Sony Ericsson T637 was, but not ridiculously so. And it's smaller than any other phone I've seen with a QWERTY keyboard.

      In its current version (I have the Cingular model, with the current non-updated firmware from them), there's some Bluetooth weirdness when using multiple devices with it. I mainly just use it wirelessly with my headset, so it's not a big deal right now. Battery life has been very good - a full day of use with no charging (an hour or two of phone time, and about an hour's worth of PDA use) will only take the charge down to about 80%. That's almost as good as my old phone. The speakerphone is pretty good, and even acceptable in the car. I do wish I still had Graffiti readily available, and I'm looking forward to getting more free space after the update finally comes out from Cingular, but overall I'm very pleased.

      Note to Cingular users: if you buy the phone directly from Palm or a third-party without a service plan as an upgrade, you can save some money. With your old phone, add their $20/month Media Net unlimited plan, and then just move your SIM into the Treo when it arrives. You now have the exact same plan that would cost you $40 if you signed the Treo up directly.

      --
      -- Josh Turiel
      "2. Do not eat iPod Shuffle."
    6. Re:Scavenging relevance by diamondsw · · Score: 1

      Warning - there are all kinds of horror stories on the TreoCentral boards of people trying this, and getting socked with thousand dollar bills for data airtime...

      --
      I don't know what kind of crack I was on, but I suspect it was decaf.
    7. Re:Scavenging relevance by jht · · Score: 1

      I think it depends on what variation on the Media Works/Media Net package you have. I just have Media Net Unlimited, which includes unlimited data but caps on text and MMS (neither of which I use). According to my plan and bill summaries, it's not an issue.

      But it is pretty easy to confuse the various plans when you sign up. Media Works originally had an unlimited option that had no cap on regular data usage - that was how I used my old T637 as a wireless modem on occasion (before I switched to Verizon for that service - see my comments on the EV-DO story here for more details). I dropped Media Works Unlimited when I bought the Verizon card, but for my purposes the Media Net Unlimited does the same thing.

      --
      -- Josh Turiel
      "2. Do not eat iPod Shuffle."
    8. Re:Scavenging relevance by StarsAreAlsoFire · · Score: 1

      The hardware... well, I am in awe.

      The software? Well, I am also in awe, but in the sense that it is the most disgusting abuse of good hardware I've ever seen in my life.

      Usability was not a feature the software guys cared about, it would seem.

      One example: Say you get a call while you are already on the line, and you take said call: There is no way to end only one of the calls. You can FLASH over, from one to the other, but you cannot 'end current call'. Even the $%&&*$#^* POS manual says 'for your convienence, the Treo 650 will automatically call back the last active number when you select 'Hang up all' so that you may continue the conversation'. Not an exact quote, but close.

      This is the Sprint phone, can't imagine that software for others is very different.

      There is also a lag when you answer. If you answer your ringing phone and immedietly say 'Hello?' or '(name) speaking:' the person who called you WILL NOT HEAR IT. You must pause for about a second or two before saying anything after answering.

      Menus do not 'remember' anything. Want to go to your contacts list? Always defaults to 'All' -- never remembers a subcategory. Voice dial? Subscription feature.

      Frankly, I'm super pissed about the treo 650. Buy a PDA and a cheap-ass phone and you will save 300 bucks and be far happier.

    9. Re:Scavenging relevance by sych · · Score: 1

      > Want to go to your contacts list? Always defaults to 'All' -- never remembers a subcategory. Voice dial? Subscription feature.

      Options -> Preferences -> [x] Remember Last Category.

      >There is no way to end only one of the calls. You can FLASH over, from one to the other, but you cannot 'end current call'

      "Swap Call" til you're on the call you want to end. Then "Hang Up". (this is for GSM. perhaps the PCS support is dodgy, or perhaps PCS itself is dodgy. upgrade already to GSM, like the rest of the world ;)

      >There is also a lag when you answer.

      Doesn't happen for me.

      Voice dial? Subscription feature.

      Or a 3rd-party tool. Yes, for a phone of this price it should have been included.

      I will have to concede that the phone functions are a little basic. However I've never had anywhere near the bad experience that you describe.

    10. Re:Scavenging relevance by StarsAreAlsoFire · · Score: 1

      Options -> Preferences -> [x] Remember Last Category.

      Thanks -- read through the manual a couple of times, didn't see it. WOuldn't swear that it isn't there, the manual is 200 some pages of mostly worthless pratter. Also, for reference, unlike the majority of the screens, touching the top of the screen with the stylus doesn't bring down the File menu -- I didn't figure anyone would make up the options -> prefs thing so I took the time and managed to discover that pushing the menu button DOES bring down a menu. So, thanks a bunch.

      "Swap Call" til you're on the call you want to end.
      Not described in the manual, and I have NEVER seen a 'hang up' option while connected under three way, and I've swapped a few times. Always shows 'hang up all' on screen, and the hang up key (red phone) does exactly that. No matter what, I hang up on both callers. It is broken to the point that I no longer utilize call waiting :~/ Yes, it is the Piece of Crap System (PCS) ala sprint.

      The lag issue may be the same -- a GSM/PCS thing. The Register mentioned having it happen to them as well in their review.

      Given that the processor is more powerfull than that of my first PC -- A pentium 90 with 16mb ram and a 1GB HD (my 650 has a GB SD card in it), I think it could have better software. I am extremely disappointed that such a SWEET piece of hardware was abused by the programming department into a 100% average piece of kit. With a below average phone. The ONLY complaint I have on the hardware was that they used a micro-plug instead of the standard stereo mini-plug for the headset/headphones. Okay, and that they, also, are victims of the 'must...have....blinky lights...' syndrome. But the screen is so pretty! and the keyboard so nice! I mean, you have to make sure not to trim your nails too close, but it really is nice!

      BUT! If you (original request person) do buy it, make sure to check out Pocket Tunes. Very nice. I never even tried Real Player, which comes installed on the Sprint version. Some sort of personal hatred on my part. Many out there will understand.....

    11. Re:Scavenging relevance by ObitMan · · Score: 1

      I had medianet unlimited.
      and I got hit with a $600 bill after the first months use.
      Cingular's reasoning was that Media Net wasn't compatible with the Treo.
      Went to the local Cingular box shop where I bought it and the plan and they straightend it out for me. But i had to go with the unlimited PDA connect plan after that.
      Cingular never got thier plans right for this device before selling it.
      Now if they would only catch up to the other carriers with regards to the firmware updates.

      --
      Who run Barter Town?
    12. Re:Scavenging relevance by BigRedGPK · · Score: 1

      I have loved all of my Treo's (180,270,600 and now 650). I bought them for the same reason you are, a two in one solution. But now the treo is also my MP3 player using a 1gb high speed SD card.

      It's not without it's quirks and bugs, but I wouldn't recomend any other smart phone (well maybe the Treo 600 ;-) )

      Timmay

  5. Innovation comes from freedom. by CyricZ · · Score: 1

    This shows that true innovation comes from the freedom to tinker with existing devices and technology, just as much as it might come from the incentive of profit.

    --
    Cyric Zndovzny at your service.
    1. Re:Innovation comes from freedom. by ebrandsberg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Innovation != unhiding an option. Innovation is putting something in that wasn't turned off for marketing reasons.

    2. Re:Innovation comes from freedom. by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      What innovation? That feature was already there.

  6. Dvorak by rasty · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now if anyone could come out with a Dvorak keyboard hack for the Treo, I'd finally re-experience the graffiti learning experience!

  7. If you have a sprint Treo 650 by jockm · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can get the latest firmware with supports DUN over BT.

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    What do you know I wrote a novel
  8. Only for Verizon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This hack is now really only valid for Verizon uses as they are the only carrier left with the crippled functionality...

    1. Re:Only for Verizon by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 1
      Verizon uses as they are the only carrier left with the crippled functionality
      Verizon is good if you want to deal with customer (dis)service and support people who are one neuron short of a synapse.
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  9. Re:Old? by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    Ditto! This is old news for even Slashdot!

  10. Re:Stop mocking them by aristotle-dude · · Score: 2, Insightful
    So what the fuck are you going to do with that Dell? It's the software stupid.

    Only a "fanboy" geek would give a shit about Mhz,SPEC scores etc... Regular people care about whether it gets the job done.

    --
    Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
  11. NOT OBSOLETE by Bodysurf · · Score: 2, Informative

    That only works for the Sprint/PCS version of the Treo 650.

    Treo 650 Updater 1.12
    (for Sprint PCS)

    There are a lot of people out there using the locked Cingular/GSM version Verizon/CDMA of the Treo650 where this still fills a void.

  12. WHEN it works, it's great by Bodysurf · · Score: 1

    It's an absolutely fantastic product WHEN it works. My experience was with a Cingular locked Treo 650.

    Unfortunately, it didn't work too long without freezing or locking-up. I couldn't tolerate a phone/PDA that would reboot or freeze several times a day, so I went back to my Nokia 3600 that runs for weeks/months without any problems.

    The stability is on par with Windows 95 running on buggy hardware.

    My advice is to stay far away until people say it's reliable and stable.

    1. Re:WHEN it works, it's great by bonehead · · Score: 1

      Mine is reliable and stable (Sprint T659 with most recent firmware).

      I do get a spontaneous reset about once a week, but it only happens when I exit one specific app, so I'm not inclined to blame that entirely on the Treo.

    2. Re:WHEN it works, it's great by bonehead · · Score: 1

      Oops, sorry about the typo. That shoud be T650, not 659.

    3. Re:WHEN it works, it's great by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      Mine has the new firmware and text messaging is completely hosed now. I'll have to hard reset to recover. Palm hasn't fixed the problem, they've only changed its appearance.

    4. Re:WHEN it works, it's great by bonehead · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with text messaging? I've sent and received over a hundred txt messages since installing the new firmware with no problems.

  13. Yep by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

    From: support@junefabrics.com
    Subject: RE: Platform support
    To:
    cc: store@junefabrics.com
    Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:42:37 -0700

    Chris,

    Sorry that unfortunately we have no plan to support Linux system.

    Thanks,
    June Fabrics PDA Software Support
    http://www.junefabrics.com/


    > -------- Original Message --------
    > Subject: Platform support
    > From:
    > Date: Fri, June 17, 2005 6:43 pm
    > To: support@junefabrics.com
    >
    > JuneFabrics,
    > I am interested in using your product (for which I already purchased a
    > Windows copy) under GNU/Linux.
    > Are there any arrangements under which this might be possible.
    > Thank you,
    > Chris

    --
    Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
  14. DUN over BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What they don't tell you, is that when your phone is on the data network, you can't take calls. At least, that's the case with Sprint, but I believe it's a limitation of CDMA (and possibly other) networks. It's not a huge deal, mind you, but when you're on call and your NOC expects to get ahold of you, they get pretty worried when their calls go straight to voicemail because you're at the pool using your Treo to talk on IRC. You can get voicemail notifications and text messages though, so that's good.

    The new firmware from PalmOne does indeed remove the need to use ShadowMites' hack. He's got some other interesting things though, like leaner versions of the firmware without the crappy Real Player, and a barely working WiFi driver for SD WiFi cards in the Treo. Before the update from PalmOne last week, his BT hack was so very lovely. It's understandable, though, why it was crippled. It was buggy as shit, and required multiple resets, before and after its use. The official version is much better. (Note: Shadowmite simply unlocked the unfinished BT DUN support that was already there.)

    And, completely unrelated... I buy a lot of gadgets. I know, it's a disease, but I can't help it. The Treo 650 is fucking the most incredible gadget I have ever had the pleasure of owning. I don't often use the BT DUN because the damn Treo does IRC, email, AIM, SSH (even screened in and used BitchX), and web. And, oh yea, I can sustain a 56k Shoutcast stream while I'm on the move using pTunes. Have I mentioned it's awesome?

    Oh yea, and the new update allows the keyboard brightness to be adjusted along with the screen brightness, rather than leaving it on full burn when you dim the screen, which sucked in the dark. It also kills the pause when dialing numbers from the address book. The Treo... if only I could have sex with it.

    1. Re:DUN over BT by bonehead · · Score: 1

      Regarding the issue with no incoming calls while on the data network: I have a vague recollection of reading somewhere that this is indeed a CDMA limitation. Could someone with a GSM 650 verify that incoming calls come through on that platform during a data connection?

      Personally, I don't find it to be much of an issue since the voicemail notification still works, so if I do miss a call I can check my voicemail and call them back within a minute or two.

      I agree that the 650 is great. I had some severe doubts about that chiclet keyboard, but the rounded tops on the keys along with whatever software magic they're doing to pick the correct key when you accidentally hit two at once makes it a joy to use. It's obviously no replacement for a real keyboard, but it beats the tar out of handwriting recognition.

    2. Re:DUN over BT by ThogScully · · Score: 1

      Could someone with a GSM 650 verify that incoming calls come through on that platform during a data connection?

      Confirmed... -N

      --
      I've nothing to say here...
  15. Re:So has the T650 from day one. by JackAxe · · Score: 1

    Besides the fact this news is "quite" old, Palm has always sold "unlocked" GSM T650s.

    This has nothing to do with Palm, and everything to do with the providers. Cingular and Sprint offered CDMA Treos at a nice discount, but intentionally crippled the DUN. Tis why a hack was made almost a year ago. Sprint's latest firmware update also unlocks DUN. Now it's just Cingular and Verizon.

    MS didn't beat Palm to this, and if you had years of experience with both platforms like me, you probably wouldn't be using your PocketPC. Anyways, If I were to buy a PPC phone, I would personally go with the 3615. Talk time is important, and 3.5 hours on a 6600 is poor. Even the GSM Treos gets about 6.5 hours.

  16. Re:Goto Treocentral.com. by JackAxe · · Score: 2, Informative

    Go here for all the scoop;
    http://discussion.treocentral.com/forumdisplay.php ?f=70

    The peeps I know that have a T650 swear by it and have had a great experience. The latest updates from Sprint and Palm fix several issues for the unlucky peeps that did experience true problems.

    If you read through Treocentral to get a basic understanding, things should go smoothly. I've notice that the peeps that had the most problems did things like not charging the phone when it was first opened. A requirment for all devices of this type. Or they loaded it up with tons of old Palm apps from the begining, apps that didn't plaly nicely with the new hardware. For the most part, user error.

    Do not go with Cingular.

  17. Re:Treo 650 by Ira+Sponsible · · Score: 1

    If you really need remote access on your treo, you should check this out:

    Win-Hand Anywhere

    Spooks my wife every time I take over the home computer when I'm at work.

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  18. Something car thieves are watching out for... by mikael · · Score: 1

    In the UK, thieves are now using Bluetooth enabled handsets to detect laptops and mobile phones hidden inside cars.

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  19. When will we get free DUN via USB? by glrotate · · Score: 1

    That would be much cooler.

  20. Verizon Cracking down on pda's without data plans. by Shook · · Score: 1
    I'm upgrading from a broken-down Kyocera 7135Kyocera Smartphone to a Treo 650.

    For more than a year, I was in complete heaven. I did not pay for a data plan, and got info for logging into a 3G data connection from PDA Phone Home. A net connection was billed as regular voice minutes. Couple that with unlimited nights and weekends, and I could use the Internet at will.

    I could hook the phone up to my laptop using the USB cable and connect at 28.8-36.6 anywhere with cell service and surf at will after 9pm.

    Now several users are upgrading from 2-year-old Kyoceras to the Treo 650 and are getting burned, even with the slower/older QNC service.

    I suppose I should have felt lucky that I got cheap cellular internet access for so long, but it's hard to start paying for something when you got a free ride before.

  21. Crippled phones... by PhotoGuy · · Score: 1

    I splurged on a Motorola V710 cell phone; blue tooth, MP3 player, camera, ringtones, etc..

    However, Telus followed Verizon's lead, and offered a crippled version of the phone. Even something as simple as sending an sound file or contacts via bluetooth wasn't possible.

    The cell phone providers want you to send data to the phone over *their* charging network, not over a free network (bluetooth). It is really hampering convergence, in my opinion.

    There are hacks for a lot of crippled platforms, but having to find a bootleg foreign ROM and reflash your phone is a bit extreme just to get a feature that was designed in by the manufacturer, but disabled by the provider.

    This is actually a great argument for an *open* Cell/PDA platform. No silly crippling possible. I'd buy one, and choose a provider based upon the lack of such crippling ability.

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    Love many, trust a few, do harm to none.
  22. Re:T-Mobile by JackAxe · · Score: 1

    You can buy an untatinted Treo from Palum and use it with T-Mobile, or any ohter GSM provider. And since the provider hasn't loaded it with their crap, these unloccked Treos are very reliable in general I wouldn't use Cingular GSM though, they're crooks..

  23. Re:Sony Ericsson P910i by dfghjk · · Score: 1

    one more thing about the 910---incredibly slow and buggy applications particularly email. Makes the machine insufferable. The Treo apps are nice but the OS is buggy. The 910 is exactly the opposite. The 910 boot is painfully slow too. Neither is worth having.

  24. a CDMA limitiation by sych · · Score: 1

    It is a CDMA limitation. The EDGE and GPRS packet-data services which run atop of GSM don't have this problem. Depending on implementation (both at the carrier and on the terminal - and I'm not sure of the Treo's implementation), GPRS (and I would presume EDGE) supports simultaneous voice and data. If the implementation doesn't support simultaneous use, an incoming or outgoing call will simply "pause" the data session. Calls can always interrupt the data.

  25. Re:Verizon Cracking down on pda's without data pla by sych · · Score: 1

    An earlier poster mentioned he was able to get an unlimited data plan (possibly with a different telco). You might want to try that.

    Having used both, the Kyocera 7135 feels like a nasty hack compared to the Treo 650 - which feels much better integrated. You ought to like the upgrade to Palm OS 5, higher-res screen with better backlight, and the way faster processor.

    It's a much nicer device :)

  26. This is news? by OhioJoe · · Score: 1

    I mean, like "new" news? I recall reading about this "hidden DUN" hack on a site somewhere back when I bought my Treo several months ago.

    OhioJoe

    --
    "Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity."
  27. Re:Verizon Cracking down on pda's without data pla by rainbowfyre · · Score: 1

    It is possible to keep your old data plan -- you might want to fight to get to higher-level wireless tech support.

    The basic deal is they had lots of billing complaints, because it is easy to leave the network connection on with the Treo650. Therefore, it is Verizon policy to not sell any treo without a data plan.

    However, if you sign up for the Pay-As-You-Go data plan, you can immediately call customer service to take off that plan and add a "1xPP1" feature, which takes data out of minutes. They'll rant to you about overage charges, and how it's not their fault if you get a $1000 bill, but they'll do it.

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    Vericon is coming!
  28. Re:Only for Verizon... AND Cingular by BigRedGPK · · Score: 1

    Cingular too... There is no Bluetooth DUN out of the box. Timmay

  29. Re:When will we get free DUN via USB? Got Linux? by BigRedGPK · · Score: 1
    http://chbm.net/treo/#serialbridge. Here is a site that will do DUN via USB for free for the Treo 180/270 with a product called SerialBridge... I have a feeling it will also work for the 600, and (thinking really hard!!!) the Treo 650.

    I would love to see someone pick this up and make it better and keep it going!

    Timmay