Build Your Own Chat-Cord
Mr. Blond writes "Here is a description of how to build your own chat-cord for only 7 euro.
This is a solder free version of the hack shown in this earlier Slashdot article.
Now you can use any plain old phone to make calls over the internet, using Skype MSN-audio or any other VoIP software. Even the software from chatcord works fine with it, to make and accept calls using the buttons of your phone."
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Not too long ago I ran across a device called Chat-Cord (www.chat-cord.com). This device does actually the same thing but it is placed between you phone and pc, not modifying your phone. But... This device is pretty expensive and I couldn't get it here in the Netherlands. Furthermore it seemed to me that this device actually isn't very complicated. So, after some internet research I somewhat found out how it worked and identified two difficulties to be solved.
In this article a description is given how to make your own chat-cord. It costs only like 7 euros. You have to solder some parts but it is very basic and simple.
To be able to use a normal phone to connect to the pc we have to make it look like for the phone as if it were connected to a normal telephone line and this telephone line has to look like it is making a call.
First of all the normal telephone line has a certain voltage, depending on the state of the line. On hook (waiting for incoming calls) is like 60V DC, ringing is 100V AC (roughly 100Hz) and off hook (an active call is going on) around 9V DC. So to be able to use a normal phone to make it think a call is going on, the phone has to see a 9V DC voltage at its input. This can simply be achieved with a 9V battery.
An alternative to this is to power the device from your USB port. It will only provide you with 5v instead of 9v, but this works fine in most cases. You have 300mA to your disposal there and that is more then enough. Just make sure you connect the right wires
The second part is the tricky part. A normal telephone system uses only two wires to send both the microphone and the speaker signal. From basic electronics you might know that you need 2 wires to send a signal, and at least 3 to send 2 signals, because one of the wires is acting as a reference (usually called ground). In a telephone system both the mic and the speaker signal are multiplexed into one signal. To be able to connect your phone to you mic-in and line-out of your pc you have to de-multiplex these signals.
The solution of Chris was to extract the mic an speaker signal before it is multiplexed inside the phone.
But this can also be done by a transformer (which is also used to prevent the 9V DC from going into you soundcard). The kind of transformer used for this application is a so called secondary centre tapped transformer. Meaning that it has 2 connections at its primary side (where the telephone will be connected) and 3 connections at its secondary side. The middle connection is physically connected to the middle of the secondary coil of the transformer. This middle connector is used as a shared ground for both the mic and the line-out.
Another issue is the input impedance of a phone line. When a phone line doesn't see the right input impedance reflections will occur, resulting in echoes or even in disabling the line. A telephone line has a input impedance of 600 Ohms, so the transformer has to be a 600 Ohm transformer. At the secondary side of the transformer a 150 Ohm resistor has to be placed at the middle connection to make the secondary input impedance 600 Ohm as well, resulting i
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If I were this guy, instead of posting the directions on the blog, I'd be making little kits to sell on E-bay or something. This could be a useful little widget for all those new millions of Skype customers out there.
I'm not sure about product liability though -- I wonder if it's possible to completely disclaim any possible harm that could be caused to your phone or computer. Maybe a big red sticker that says, "You're an idiot if you plug this up! Warning!"
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Or maybe the site is hosted via a line using this phonce cord?
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Works fine for me.
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We do, and we're holding steady just fine thanks.
personally, I don't really need it. I like to have my hands free when talking, so I'll stick to my good ol' headset. ;)
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Why pay 7 euro to use a phone VOIP + your regular phone line....that is totaly crazy.
Just switch to VOIP entirely and you actually pay less, unless you dont have access to it.
But again, most phone companies give you rebates in the week after 18h00 for long distance calls , so you really need to to do your math before paying extra to get VOIP while still holding on your regular service.
i get VOIP for 24.99 (cdn)a month with unlimited long distance calls in canada + voicemail.
After reading TFA y think it would be possible to use a modem as input for the telephone. Is this possible, difficult? I am just pitching the idea. Anyway this chatcord is a nice project for this weekend!! heee! :P
personally, I don't really need it. I like to have my hands free when talking, so I'll stick to my good ol' headset. ;)
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Depends on the nature of the call -- in some cases, I only need one free hand
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I use Lingo as my exclusive phone service - I cancelled my POTS line after two days - SBC was very difficult to cancel when I told them I was going to VOIP
I have had absolutely no problems for the last two months. I get an amazing price - $19.99 for unlimited US, Western Europe & Canada, and the first three months absolutely free.
I can't imagine not having the convenience of VOIP. The online bonuses - email voicemail, detailed billing, etc are good too.
The rates to the rest of the world are good too
Why not plug the phone directly into a RJ11 slot ? (a 56ko card actually is ~10euro + you don't trash your existing phone). I guess once this is done everything else is just software...
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From TFA:
This software is still in testing phase and is available from our Download Section free of charge and "as-is". Expiration date November 1st, 2005.
Any idea how easy it'd be to do an OSS version of this?
seriously. how?
I just want to warn everyone that he is in the Netherlands. I know it's not exactly revelant to this project, but telephone standards are fairly different in the USA and Canada.
We use 48v @ 20Hz to ring.
On Hook is 52v at 300 to 1800 ohms.
Off hook is 12v at 680 ohms (ideal).
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There was a comment that said on self powered phones, like cordless phones, you could skip the Battery or USB power source.
From a related page we see this comment...
"It's just the classic phreak box "The Rock Box" or a Rat Shack phone recorder, but it's the idea that counts. Great idea!"
Assuming they mean this Radio Shack Recorder Control then I already have what I need... the question is am I understanding it right? Will it work?
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Let it be noted that the plural of euro is euros.
I don't think people are yet ready for this. Way too futuristic. Once they are used to immortality and flying cars, maybe we can roll out the using of buttons to make and accept calls. Until then, it will be too much danger like the krell machine.
It's not down, it's just that he's on the phone right now.
From TFA: "You have to solder some parts but it is very basic and simple."
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The real chat-cord only costs $24.95 USD. This solution would cost $8.33USD by using raw Euro to USD conversion. For this little savings, I would just buy the chat cord and get the included software that works for windows and mac.
What's wrong with solder anyway?
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The only problem I have with solutions like this (and the headsets) is that unless you have 2 sound cards you are limiting yourself to only being able to hear the PC sound if you pick the phone up! USB solutions which count as an additional sound card allow you to direct VOIP (say Skype) to the phone and all other sound to the sound card. Skype also allows you to have the ringer run on the speakers and the phone, incase the ringer on the USB phone isn't loud enough. I have one of those orange Skype phones and apart from the awful ringer it is superb - excellent sound quality
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Maybe for the first couple minutes, but you're certainly not holding steady anymore.
I got the Service Unavailable ... hed to check the URL to make sure I wasn't back on slashdot!
Sorry, the user you are trying to reach has been slashdotted... Please try again later.
That's nice to know. I'd rather build my own but I'm sure most people would rather buy that.
According to the ChatCord website, they're patenting the idea. Once that happens, home-made ChatCords will be in violation of the company's intellectual property rights.
Alternatively, here are direct links to the files: DialerXT and DialerSK (for Skype). I'm not sure if these would work for everyone. I'm including them because this way would be much simpler.
well, while I was reading this article and coments here, /. was flashign Vonmage ads on top and it sure was kinda ironic, that this ad had to flash when the need was to eliminate service like theirs and build your own.
also, all these 1-800 #s (cust support)most goto the Asia, and they are "Toll Free", (and most of the times the stupid call is for 30 mins, with 25 mins hold time) but wtf, when I need to call someone genuinely in Asia, even if its for 5 mins, I frickign have to shell out. Can there be something done about this and start getting VoIP calls to phone lines for cheap/free. Its sad that there has been done nothing so far. I would not even mind paying 20 bucks a month for unlimited calling there (Asia). Any answers...
home-made ChatCords will be in violation of the company's intellectual property rights
That isn't true at all! The only thing in violation would be someone else making it for you (and giving or selling it to you).
It is totally legal to build one at home and use it personally - there isn't anything wrong with that. Patents keep others from launching a commercial venture with your idea.
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I know a much cheaper way to make your own chatcord. It involves two cans and some string..
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Doesn't every person in the world have a cell phone by now?
This just in! 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the population.
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Context also needs to be taken into account. For example, if you buy a 30 dollar sound card it costs 30 dollars. So be sure you're talking about a true plural and not an adjective phrase.
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When you can get an Handytone http://www.grandstream.com/y-htseries.htm/ or IAXy http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=product_detai l&category=hardware&product=S101I/ type device anyway? I mean, really, get a job, these things only cost $100....
Oh, yea, and feel free to start the ususal rant about proprietary systems and how much they suck......it is skype right? Or is it only lame when proprietary isn't free?
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It's pretty fast from my place in southern Europe.
Maybe it's the transatlantic cable that is slashdotted?
just about everything in this category ends up having been
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The 1-800 numbers to corporate "customer support" lines are cheap because they are VoIP all the way to the end of the line. It never uses the foreign country's telephone system.
On the other hand, when you go to call someone who is NOT in a call center in India, the call has to go over the POTS or cell phone network. In most of those countries even local calls are not free.
I see the program is for windows only.
Has anyone found a way to do this with skype for linux?
A cell phone is not a necessity despite what many people think.
Necessities are food, water, and shelter.
Many people in this world do not have these basic things.
Though some of them might own a cell phone anyway.
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I'd love to find a DIY version of this cable that connects a cell phone to Skype:
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Such a cable would enable "free" cell phone calls as described here:
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050623
How about writing a Skype to SIP gateway. That's because of an offer of 1und1.de of a calling 'flatrate' for around 10/month to any landline in Germany.
If I had such a gateway, I would offer people free calls to numbers in Germany, maybe asking them for a small donation if they use it a lot, so I can cover my expenses.
However, I didn't find any OS or free (as in beer) configurable SIP client to connect this to... I've looked a bit into the Skype API, and it seems connecting to Skype should work (one problem being that Skype needs to connect to a soundcard, so I would also need a 'virtual' soundcard, if I don't want to connect two soundcards together) or connect the phone line to the soundcard (my modem/router handles the SIP translation), which probably could be done with a device similar as the one presented in the arrticle.
What do you think of this idea, would you place a call through a Skype-SIP-PSTN gateway (privacy implications...)?
Maybe you know of a solution already?
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Bonus points for people that get Caller ID to work over this interface.
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According to the ChatCord website, they're patenting the idea. Once that happens, home-made ChatCords will be in violation of the company's intellectual property rights.
There's way too much prior art on something like this for them to get a patent. It'd be almost like trying to patent the telephone or the 600 Ohm 1:1 transformer or something.
If anything, they are going to patent the software and/or the solution as a whole so that you would only be infringing if you sold a product identical marketed for VOIP use, since that's the only somewhat novel thing they did.
In any event, note that their patent is PENDING, not granted. I wouldn't worry. (or care... just don't sell your home made ones)
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